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br0fivE
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada349 Posts
April 27 2011 20:40 GMT
#201
On April 28 2011 05:36 svefnleysi wrote:
Why is everyone being so rude? So this guy "all-in'd" IdrA. Who cares? Cheese or not, he left the game with manner and is top 50 in the GM league. Better than most of you will ever be.


now now son, your asking why ppl are being rude, when being rude yourself.. i dont get it
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 27 2011 20:42 GMT
#202
So I guess it is only "play to win" when MC does it.

I personally think constantly all-inning at that level is pointless because you are basically throwing away free practice games against top players that could really help you improve, but posting here to insult the guy for the way he plays is not only pointless, it's sad.

If you're already watching IdrA's stream, focus on learning how to play from him instead of learning how to trash talk people on the internets. It's much more useful in the long run.

loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 20:46:44
April 27 2011 20:44 GMT
#203
On April 27 2011 16:52 Talin wrote:
I can't believe you people.

It's a free top tier (ladder-wise at least) replay pack, just take it and be thankful. Or don't take it and still be thankful because it's free stuff you can't normally get (if you're not a top player in your region), and it's a lot better having threads that contribute in some way than another "Latest GSL statistics - is PvZ really balanced?" or "I'm still too scared to ladder" bullshit filler threads.

As for posting only replays of games he won, he's hardly the first person to do that, and won't be the last either. You're not really going to post games in which you played shit or played tired or drunk in a TL replay pack, OF COURSE you want to present yourself in the best possible way playing the best games you can.


"He isn't the first person to do that" is a fallacy, and really has no bearing on whether or not you should do it. No1 is saying post drunk replays, but you can still lose games when you play at your best. I get really annoyed with any1 who tries to do this, to me it just screams arrogance when 100% of the replays you post are you winning.

I mean he posts two replays of all inning incontrol saying that its useful to upload boring games because they can teach you about the build and w.e. Isn't watching the build fail just as useful to determine its weak points and look for improvements? On top of that this guy's really fucking cheesy. He all ins and takes his wins yes, but if you actually look at the games hes hardly a top tier player.

On April 28 2011 05:42 Talin wrote:
So I guess it is only "play to win" when MC does it.

I personally think constantly all-inning at that level is pointless because you are basically throwing away free practice games against top players that could really help you improve, but posting here to insult the guy for the way he plays is not only pointless, it's sad.

If you're already watching IdrA's stream, focus on learning how to play from him instead of learning how to trash talk people on the internets. It's much more useful in the long run.



Lol come on that's just willingly being ignortant. You're implying no1 has a problem with MC cheesing ever? Did you not see the shitstorm he got after Dreamhack? Plus there's a difference between cheesing because money is on the line and cheesing like 70% of the time on ladder >_>
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SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
April 27 2011 20:45 GMT
#204
On April 28 2011 05:42 Talin wrote:
So I guess it is only "play to win" when MC does it.

I personally think constantly all-inning at that level is pointless because you are basically throwing away free practice games against top players that could really help you improve,


You can't compare ladder to tournament play, and even so, he doesn't do it every game. I can't say the same about water, but from what I'm seeing here from the people who have actually played against him it is a recurring theme.

You have also covered that basis with saying constantly doing all-ins at that level is pointless, so I won't even discuss that.
Caliber
Profile Joined August 2010
United States598 Posts
April 27 2011 20:48 GMT
#205
interesting replay pack, but im gettin a feeling you are just trying to advertise for lessons
AgentSmith
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada91 Posts
April 27 2011 20:49 GMT
#206
On April 28 2011 05:24 CatZ.root wrote:
I agree with iNcontroL here, wasn't sure if i should say something or not cause it may sound whiny but I will now, Water is a low-caliber-all-in-only player, HOWEVER master yoda would say:

At all ins, very good you are, young padawan.

(i haven't seen the replay pack i noticed there's replays of me, so hopefully for each one of me losing there's a bunch of me winning, just to be fair to the real ratio)

:D ok im bm =).

Kinda like TSL Rain eh?
allins are still legitimate
I'm a total noob!
SeakayKu
Profile Joined October 2010
United States128 Posts
April 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#207
we need people like liquidwater to be playing against good players
making sure the corners they cut, is legit
we all should refine our "so-called-solid" builds against any kind of rushes, timings, etc.
and it's people like liquidwater to contribute their part to the community
there is nothing wrong exploiting the rushes and timing attacks...
the more, the sooner blizzard/players will adjust...
so... MOAR MOAR MOAR!!
where are the zerg/protoss rushers? where??
i wanna see more!!
It's an Art and I hope I can see beautifully fought matches.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 20:52:33
April 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#208
please don't use a liquid name if you want to use tl to promote yourself
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