• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:07
CEST 23:07
KST 06:07
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists7[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers4Maestros of the Game 2 announced22026 GSL Tour plans announced3Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail0MaNa leaves Team Liquid18
StarCraft 2
General
2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Maestros of the Game 2 announced Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data needed A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone [ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group B [ASL21] Ro24 Group F [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1960 users

LiquidWater's Replay Pack - Page 11

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 All
br0fivE
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada349 Posts
April 27 2011 20:40 GMT
#201
On April 28 2011 05:36 svefnleysi wrote:
Why is everyone being so rude? So this guy "all-in'd" IdrA. Who cares? Cheese or not, he left the game with manner and is top 50 in the GM league. Better than most of you will ever be.


now now son, your asking why ppl are being rude, when being rude yourself.. i dont get it
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 27 2011 20:42 GMT
#202
So I guess it is only "play to win" when MC does it.

I personally think constantly all-inning at that level is pointless because you are basically throwing away free practice games against top players that could really help you improve, but posting here to insult the guy for the way he plays is not only pointless, it's sad.

If you're already watching IdrA's stream, focus on learning how to play from him instead of learning how to trash talk people on the internets. It's much more useful in the long run.

loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 20:46:44
April 27 2011 20:44 GMT
#203
On April 27 2011 16:52 Talin wrote:
I can't believe you people.

It's a free top tier (ladder-wise at least) replay pack, just take it and be thankful. Or don't take it and still be thankful because it's free stuff you can't normally get (if you're not a top player in your region), and it's a lot better having threads that contribute in some way than another "Latest GSL statistics - is PvZ really balanced?" or "I'm still too scared to ladder" bullshit filler threads.

As for posting only replays of games he won, he's hardly the first person to do that, and won't be the last either. You're not really going to post games in which you played shit or played tired or drunk in a TL replay pack, OF COURSE you want to present yourself in the best possible way playing the best games you can.


"He isn't the first person to do that" is a fallacy, and really has no bearing on whether or not you should do it. No1 is saying post drunk replays, but you can still lose games when you play at your best. I get really annoyed with any1 who tries to do this, to me it just screams arrogance when 100% of the replays you post are you winning.

I mean he posts two replays of all inning incontrol saying that its useful to upload boring games because they can teach you about the build and w.e. Isn't watching the build fail just as useful to determine its weak points and look for improvements? On top of that this guy's really fucking cheesy. He all ins and takes his wins yes, but if you actually look at the games hes hardly a top tier player.

On April 28 2011 05:42 Talin wrote:
So I guess it is only "play to win" when MC does it.

I personally think constantly all-inning at that level is pointless because you are basically throwing away free practice games against top players that could really help you improve, but posting here to insult the guy for the way he plays is not only pointless, it's sad.

If you're already watching IdrA's stream, focus on learning how to play from him instead of learning how to trash talk people on the internets. It's much more useful in the long run.



Lol come on that's just willingly being ignortant. You're implying no1 has a problem with MC cheesing ever? Did you not see the shitstorm he got after Dreamhack? Plus there's a difference between cheesing because money is on the line and cheesing like 70% of the time on ladder >_>
상처받은 그대에 가슴에 사랑을 심어줄께요♥
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
April 27 2011 20:45 GMT
#204
On April 28 2011 05:42 Talin wrote:
So I guess it is only "play to win" when MC does it.

I personally think constantly all-inning at that level is pointless because you are basically throwing away free practice games against top players that could really help you improve,


You can't compare ladder to tournament play, and even so, he doesn't do it every game. I can't say the same about water, but from what I'm seeing here from the people who have actually played against him it is a recurring theme.

You have also covered that basis with saying constantly doing all-ins at that level is pointless, so I won't even discuss that.
Caliber
Profile Joined August 2010
United States598 Posts
April 27 2011 20:48 GMT
#205
interesting replay pack, but im gettin a feeling you are just trying to advertise for lessons
AgentSmith
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada91 Posts
April 27 2011 20:49 GMT
#206
On April 28 2011 05:24 CatZ.root wrote:
I agree with iNcontroL here, wasn't sure if i should say something or not cause it may sound whiny but I will now, Water is a low-caliber-all-in-only player, HOWEVER master yoda would say:

At all ins, very good you are, young padawan.

(i haven't seen the replay pack i noticed there's replays of me, so hopefully for each one of me losing there's a bunch of me winning, just to be fair to the real ratio)

:D ok im bm =).

Kinda like TSL Rain eh?
allins are still legitimate
I'm a total noob!
SeakayKu
Profile Joined October 2010
United States128 Posts
April 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#207
we need people like liquidwater to be playing against good players
making sure the corners they cut, is legit
we all should refine our "so-called-solid" builds against any kind of rushes, timings, etc.
and it's people like liquidwater to contribute their part to the community
there is nothing wrong exploiting the rushes and timing attacks...
the more, the sooner blizzard/players will adjust...
so... MOAR MOAR MOAR!!
where are the zerg/protoss rushers? where??
i wanna see more!!
It's an Art and I hope I can see beautifully fought matches.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 20:52:33
April 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#208
please don't use a liquid name if you want to use tl to promote yourself
Administrator
Prev 1 9 10 11 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 53m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 285
UpATreeSC 124
JuggernautJason78
CosmosSc2 25
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2637
firebathero 156
Soulkey 147
Counter-Strike
fl0m6438
pashabiceps1979
Pyrionflax187
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0167
Mew2King57
PPMD56
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu387
Other Games
summit1g9204
tarik_tv4124
Grubby3126
FrodaN1768
ViBE47
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL95
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 15
• musti20045 6
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 43
• HerbMon 13
• FirePhoenix12
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1352
• Shiphtur269
• Scarra69
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
2h 53m
CranKy Ducklings
11h 53m
Kung Fu Cup
14h 53m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
The PondCast
1d 12h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 13h
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
IPSL
3 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Ladder Legends
4 days
BSL
4 days
IPSL
4 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-13
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.