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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
April 16 2011 02:36 GMT
#81
I just say colossus for the plural version. It sounds fine to me. I have 5 colossus. That sounds so much better than any other way I have ever heard or seen anyone else use.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
April 16 2011 02:36 GMT
#82
Collossorum and Nexorum? YUS!
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
April 16 2011 02:38 GMT
#83
Colossus
Coltossus
Coltosis
Cortosis
Cartosis
Artosis
Paradice
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand431 Posts
April 16 2011 02:41 GMT
#84
I dunno, I always thought that all the unit names were proper nouns; "Colossus" is the name of the unit, not a literal description of the unit - therefore why does it not follow the pluralization rules for proper nouns - i.e. "Colossuses".

Same as why we have the Maple Leafs, and not the Maple Leaves.... just because they have been named after something, they don't inherit all their grammar rules.
Blackk
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa226 Posts
April 16 2011 02:42 GMT
#85
so let me get this straight, is it marines or mariners?
hah.
x6Paramore
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada130 Posts
April 16 2011 02:44 GMT
#86
i totally call bullshit...
S.O.L.I.D.
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
April 16 2011 02:44 GMT
#87
How about instead of making things 5 times more complicated we just let people say it however they want. It's not like you don't know what they're referring to. Although some of those words are kinda cool, I might start using them.
CodECleaR
Profile Joined November 2010
United States395 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 02:45:24
April 16 2011 02:45 GMT
#88
On April 16 2011 10:53 MajorityofOne wrote:
Plural of colossus: Colossoraptors, obviously


BAHAHAHAH!

Seriously though, Collossorum is win.
How do you beat a terran who's hardcore turtling off 3 base? Flip him on his back and walk away."
Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
April 16 2011 02:45 GMT
#89
It's colossi as in coloss"eye". Period, end of story. I don't care where the word came from, in English it's coloss"eye"

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/colossus

They even have an audio clip!
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 16 2011 02:45 GMT
#90
On April 16 2011 10:07 GGOda wrote:
I as a Latin student get annoyed with how other people say colossus in different forms. When blizzard released that colossus was plural as colossi I thought this would stop the misuse of the word.

But then i thought of how people said things like "The colossi's lazer beams" which is completely wrong. As Colossus is considered a Latin word i thought I would educate the Starcraft 2 community on how to "Correctly" say colossus....

The following terms are used in this explanation....
Nominative- the noun doing noun ie. subject
Genitive- the Way to show ownership ie. Joey's
Dative- indirect object form
Accusative- Direct object form
Ablative- used with non action prepositions (all action prepositions used with accusative)
vocative- used as command ie colossus kill the zerglings

Now for the analysis

colossus is a masculine 2nd declension (way Latin uses to separate nouns) so....

Singular

Nominative- Colossus
Genitive- Colossi *i sounds like ee*
Dative- Colosso *long o*
Accusative- Colossum
Ablative- Colosso *long o*
vocative- Collosse *e like eh*

Plural

Nominative- Colossi *i sounds like ee*
Genitive- Colossorum
Dative- Colossis
Accusative- Colossos *Long o*
Ablative- Colossis
vocative- colossi *i sounds like ee*

Correct use of this would be as followed...
"The Colossorum lazer beams"
"The viking shot a missile at the Colosso"
ect. ect.

Thanks for reading and try to use the "Correct" way of saying Colossus...

and for those who think its a joke and don't believe me look at Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_declension

I find this highly comical simply due to the fact that no one really cares exactly how its pronounced in latin .. when casters say collosi we pretty much understand what they mean.. and otherwise I could care less if we are butchering an old fairly dead language. Idk is this like an epic troll or are you for real? I CAN'T TELL
Mabilis
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States162 Posts
April 16 2011 02:46 GMT
#91
It would be colossal if an upgrade would give the colossus the ability to shoot air units. GG
"Nice guys finish last, but we get to sleep in." -- Evan Davis
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
April 16 2011 02:46 GMT
#92
Aaaaaand Latin is a dead language that we don't actually know whether or not we are speaking correctly, regardless.
aka Moletrap
Darclite
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1021 Posts
April 16 2011 02:47 GMT
#93
The word is derived from the Ancient Greek word (most likely Minoan), and we get it through Latin "κολοσσος"

The conjugation in Ancient Greek would be:
nom. sing. κολοσσός
gen. sing. κολοσσοῦ
dat. sing. κολοσσῷ
acc. sing. κολοσσόν
voc. sing. κολοσσέ
nom. pl. κολοσσοί
gen. pl. κολοσσῶν
dat. pl. κολοσσοῖς
acc. pl. κολοσσοῦς
voc. pl. κολοσσοί

*These are the Attic Greek forms, there may be slight changes in Doric and other forms.

So It would be more like colossoi if we were being purists, but we shouldn't be. As words travel from language to language, they change. So it is irrelevant what it is in Latin, because we are speaking English, and the correct form in English is accepted as Colossus in the singular and Colossi in the plural.

I've been a student of Ancient Greek (mega-nerd) for two years, and I thought this might show you that you shouldn't get annoyed at people who don't call a colossus a collosorum for a possessive, because words change through time.

In case you don't believe me: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/κολοσσός#Ancient_Greek
They're fools. You should eat them.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
April 16 2011 02:48 GMT
#94
So I love your research and believe that in Latin that are correct, but even so this is not Latin. This is ultra-modern English with Latin roots.
According to the American Heritage Dictionary it is Colossi, rhyming with "lie" or "pie", which is the way that Blizzard or whomever has chosen for it.
Now Oxford English rhyming dictionary is showing both rhymes, Coloss(ee) and Coloss(i) as both correct.

Overall, I will stick with Colossi as in pie, but thanks for the information!
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9111 Posts
April 16 2011 02:52 GMT
#95
This must be spot lighted. Funniest thread I've read all week.
boyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States134 Posts
April 16 2011 02:53 GMT
#96
Colosziousuez
gamecrazy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States421 Posts
April 16 2011 02:53 GMT
#97
I think Darclite just won this thread. I know nothing about ancient languages, but I'm pretty sure no one really wants to argue with Colos-"I" as the English pronunciation of the plural for Colossus.
DarKcS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1237 Posts
April 16 2011 02:54 GMT
#98
Can't we just all agree on COLOSSI?
Die tomorrow - Live today
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
April 16 2011 02:58 GMT
#99
On April 16 2011 11:08 GGOda wrote:
ok...
s
Nom- Nexus
Gen- Nexi
Dat- Nexo
acc- nexum
Abl- Nexo
voc-Nexe

Pl

Nom-nexi
gen-nexorum
dat- nexis
acc- nexos
abl- nexis
voc- nexi

Bro you are just blowing my mind, i am going to need for you to do the same thing with Hydralisk, Protoss, and TSL.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Okiesmokie
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada379 Posts
April 16 2011 02:59 GMT
#100
On April 16 2011 11:20 DrGreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 10:09 Backpack wrote:
If people had trouble with colossi/colossuses, how do you expect them to remember 7 more ways of saying it?


In Polish every word have 7+ forms.

Funny that americans can't remember 7 forms of one word.

And yet you couldn't remember the form 'has'
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