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Elothis
Profile Joined March 2011
111 Posts
April 16 2011 09:29 GMT
#181
lol
imo just say colossus for everything xD
most people tend to say 1 colossus and 2 or more colossi though i think, the rest mostly doesnt matter when casting etc.
Joh
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark7 Posts
April 16 2011 09:39 GMT
#182
Since colossus is an English word, but has it's origin in Latin, it actually don't follow the latin grammar rules... Because it's an English word! The Oxford Dictionary says that Colossus in plural can be "colossi" as well as "colossuses". There aren't any cases grammar rules in the English language, therefore you can say "the colossi's lazer beams".
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Seqkat
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom29 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 09:52:31
April 16 2011 09:51 GMT
#183
I think it's briefly worth pointing out here (as we seem to be going down that route!) that there is some confusion in this thread about the use of the vocative. The vocative case isn't just for commands, nor is it for when "we're talking", it's used to address someone directly. So if you were talking TO your colossus in any context/for any reason, you'd use the vocative case (if you were a Roman, that is). Otherwise, pick another. Or, as we're speaking English, don't bother .
Sensator
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia377 Posts
April 16 2011 09:57 GMT
#184
Yeah people aren't going to speak a dead language just to be correct, I'm sorry. And I'll stick to Colossus and Colossi.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
April 16 2011 10:02 GMT
#185
It's a game.

Colossoraptors it is.
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
April 16 2011 10:08 GMT
#186
On April 16 2011 18:39 Joh wrote:
Since colossus is an English word, but has it's origin in Latin, it actually don't follow the latin grammar rules... Because it's an English word! The Oxford Dictionary says that Colossus in plural can be "colossi" as well as "colossuses". There aren't any cases grammar rules in the English language, therefore you can say "the colossi's lazer beams".


I agree.

You could apply the latin pronunciation to many other English words and they would almost all be different than the way we use English words today.

Interesting OP, but it doesn't really apply.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
April 16 2011 10:09 GMT
#187
Grammar of another language than the one we are communicating in doesn't apply. Otherwise you'd have to start using the "correct" grammar for every word originating in a different language. I don't think I have to explain the ridiculousness of this concept.
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
April 16 2011 10:11 GMT
#188
colossorumirie
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
April 16 2011 10:14 GMT
#189
I think we can all agree on one thing, at least. The singular of colossus is not colossi.

I'm looking at you RotterdaM.
LilClinkin
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Australia667 Posts
April 16 2011 10:14 GMT
#190
Just because colossus is derived from Latin, does not mean we must say the word as Latin speakers would. Languages evolve continually, and the same word across varying languages can be pronounced in many different ways. Colossus is no exception.
Tibson
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany85 Posts
April 16 2011 10:15 GMT
#191
Finally someone mentioned it ... wrong colossus bothers me deeply.
Floobie
Profile Joined February 2011
England296 Posts
April 16 2011 10:17 GMT
#192
So we've agreed to stick with Collossus and Collossi then.
woowoo
Profile Joined May 2010
France164 Posts
April 16 2011 10:20 GMT
#193
Hey, you know the correct spelling will be the one used by an overexcited korean commentator, something like Colossuuuuuuuuuu !
wooooo
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 10:25:08
April 16 2011 10:23 GMT
#194
On April 16 2011 14:18 bashalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 14:01 Rabiator wrote:
On April 16 2011 10:22 ahx wrote:
You created an account to discuss pronunciation of words..

In case you didnt notice ... language is the key for many things in life. Do you think people running around and greeting everyone with "Yo dude, whats up?" will ever get a highly visible job where you need to communicate with / to people? News presenter, five star hotels, ... they all need people with "proper language skill" and not those who communicate in their own sub-form of their language. There is one exception: if the dialect is regional it is acceptable for people working there to speak that way.

Sadly todays youth culture is prone to develop its own set of vocabulary and TV series add a lot of words to boys language which arent really words (BOOM, BANG, ...). My experience here in germany tells me that it is much worse in non-english countries, because the kids arent using their own additional words, but rather start using english words instead. This ends up with people sounding somewhat stupid when they are talking in a mixed german-english vocabulary and if you listen to one of KHALDOR's "german" casts you might notice that every 5th to 10th word is actually english (and I am not talking about Stalker, Zealot, Marine, Zergling). This is rather depressing because he is one of the "teachers" for the german kids who talk about the game and this slowly "dissolves" the german language.

Languages evolve. Nothing new here.

Thats the typical lazy excuse for not having to try and follow the right way. "Languages evolve" is only valid as an excuse if the changes apply for ALL the people who speak the language. Otherwise this evolution only creates a "secret language" which only the people who are its users - be they "ghetto dudes" or "Starcraft gamers" - speak but which is NOT the language.

I doubt any "niche pronounciation" coming from Starcraft players will actually change the language. It will however set the peopl who "do it the wrong way" (Colluxen ... yeah) apart from those who learned the correct way.
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ch0c0b0fr34k
Profile Joined October 2010
United States452 Posts
April 16 2011 10:29 GMT
#195
I like Collosoraptors. It'd be funny if Collossi grew distiguishable hind legs and stubby front claws every time they got within high-five distance with one another.
Pew pew!
MrSpider
Profile Joined January 2011
France173 Posts
April 16 2011 10:31 GMT
#196
On April 16 2011 19:20 woowoo wrote:
Hey, you know the correct spelling will be the one used by an overexcited korean commentator, something like Colossuuuuuuuuuu !



Caster : Colossoruummm laser burned all Idra's zerg units. OMGGGGGG!

Idra : Fuck those damn Colosso!!!!!!!
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Qwix
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
April 16 2011 10:34 GMT
#197
1 Collosus
2 Collosi
TALegion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 10:40:55
April 16 2011 10:38 GMT
#198
We're not speaking Latin.
Englsin only has 3 cases. Subjective, Objective, and Possessive.

Colossus
Colossus
Colossus's

Colossi
Colossi
Colossi's


On April 16 2011 10:07 GGOda wrote:
I as a Latin student get annoyed with how other people say colossus in different forms. When blizzard released that colossus was plural as colossi I thought this would stop the misuse of the word.

But then i thought of how people said things like "The colossi's lazer beams" which is completely wrong. As Colossus is considered a Latin word i thought I would educate the Starcraft 2 community on how to "Correctly" say colossus....

You don't sounds protentious at all...

And how do you know it isn't 4th declension? Fucking colossi are some of the manliest shit in the world of Starcraft.
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gongryong
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1430 Posts
April 16 2011 10:40 GMT
#199
This thread is becoming AWESOME!

On April 16 2011 19:02 Necosarius wrote:
It's a game.

Colossoraptors it is.


On April 16 2011 17:23 nalgene wrote:
Colossus ( singular )
Colossi ( si is not zi/ji/shi for this one but sai )
Korossosu ( if you want Engrish )


On April 16 2011 15:59 ZXRP wrote:
Mr OP, you have a split infinitive in your thread title.


On April 16 2011 11:38 Roe wrote:
Colossus
Coltossus
Coltosis
Cortosis
Cartosis
Artosis
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Brillor
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden12 Posts
April 16 2011 10:42 GMT
#200
-> Colololololossu!
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