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Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 12:38:31
April 07 2011 15:35 GMT
#1
Edit: http://nasl.tv/ is updated, check it out. Everything below isn´t needed anymore Nice layout!


Since there are several threads spread over SC2 General and Tourneys I try to put everything in one place. If mods or majority of community say it´s not needed, feel free to tell me. I just wanted something like this for myself.
This thread should not replace the other ones, just be a source with links and short overviews for every theme.
Links to all existent TL threads as well to official sources are put in below, please use them for further informations.
I try to keep it up to date, so please give feedback if I missed things.



Sources

- NASL TV Teaser website, shoud be replaced in near future [1]
- wellplayed.org "just" a website, but exclusive, goodlooking content [2]
- [Q&A] Thread by Xeris [3]
- NASL Twitter [4]



Themes

Broadcasting Schedule [2]

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Extraction from TL thread below for Castday 1. Too long to quote everything, just watch link

4/12 (12. April)
[image loading]
(Z)FOX_Moon vs [image loading] (P)Grubby
[image loading] (Z)NrG.ViBE vs [image loading] (T)TLAF-Liquid`TLO
[image loading] (P)sixjax.Artosis vs [image loading] (Z)FXO.Sheth
[image loading] (T)FnaticMSI.Fenix vs [image loading] (P)ROOT.KiWiKaKi
[image loading]
(T)ST.RainBOw vs [image loading] (Z)mouz.MorroW





Pricepool Distribution [2]

"Prize pool distribution, which has only been speculated about up until now, has been revealed as well. The overall winner for the season will take home $50,000. The second place finisher will earn $25,000, third will take $10,000, and fourth earns $5,000. Those players placing 5th-8th will get $1,500 and 9th-16th receive $500. All players will receive an additional $500 for attending the finals."

Comparison Pricemoney GSL-NASL from TL (by godemperor)
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"Clarification: GSL take place over 3 weeks while NASL over more than 10 weeks."




Players [1]

(Shameless taken from ditkaordie´s thread)

Division 1

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(Z)FOX_Moon
[image loading] (T)FnaticMSI.Fenix
[image loading] (P)ROOT.KiWiKaKi
[image loading] (R)TLAF-Liquid`TLO
[image loading] (Z)FXO.Sheth
[image loading] (P)Artosis
[image loading] (Z)NrG.ViBE
[image loading] (P)EG.Grubby
[image loading]
(T)ST_RainBOw
[image loading] (Z)mouz.MorroW

Division 2

[image loading] (T)FXO.qxc
[image loading] (Z)aTn.DarKFoRcE
[image loading] (P)coL.CrunCher
[image loading] (T)dignitas.SjoW
[image loading] (P)FnaticMSI.TT1
[image loading] (P)Duckload.White-Ra
[image loading] (Z)CN!MoMaN
[image loading] (P)EG.iNcontroL
[image loading]
(T)oGs.Ensnare
[image loading]
(Z)ST_July

Division 3

[image loading] (T)FnaticMSI.KawaiiRice
[image loading] (Z)TLAF-Liquid`HayprO
[image loading] (P)dignitas.NaNiwa
[image loading] (Z)ROOT.SLush
[image loading] (P)EG.Axslav
[image loading] (T)mouz.Strelok
[image loading]
(Z)FXO.mOOnGLaDe
[image loading] (T)NrG.dde
[image loading]
(P)ST_Squirtle
[image loading]
(T)oGs.NaDa

Division 4

[image loading]
(T)dignitas.SeleCT
[image loading] (P)mouz.HasuObs
[image loading] (Z)ROOT.CatZ
[image loading] (Z)EG.Machine
[image loading]
(P)ST_Ace
[image loading] (T)RoX.KIS.BRAT_OK
[image loading] (T)coL.Stalife
[image loading] (T)ESC.GoOdy
[image loading] (Z)TLAF-Liquid`Ret
[image loading]
(P)oGs.MC

Division 5

[image loading] (Z)EG.IdrA
[image loading] (P)aTn.Socke
[image loading] (T)MYM.ClouD
[image loading]
(Z)FnaticMSI.Sen
[image loading] (P)TLAF-Liquid`Tyler
[image loading] (P)mouz.MaNa
[image loading] (T)ROOT.Drewbie
[image loading] (T)LG.PainUser
[image loading]
(Z)oGs.Zenio
[image loading]
(T)SlayerS_BoxeR




Map Pool [2]

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Tournament Format [3]

(Poolmatches are bo3, can´t give a source, but since there are 3 maps for each matchup it´s logical.)

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Stream Informations [1,3,4]

- Paid HQ stream for 25$ (presail 20$, "presalenasl" when purchasing)
1080p live stream access
24/7 Video On Demand access to all content
(including weekly shows, analysis, highlights, and matches)
Zero commercial interruption

- Free LQ stream

- "Stream quality: The quality of GSL's high quality paid stream is 650 kb/sec. Our free stream is going to be at 800 kb/sec, our paid stream will be 3 megabit / sec. We're offering much better stream quality than any other tournament can give you!"

- Since the question came on 2nd page if replays are included:
Answer from Xeris "Hey, we were originally debating whether or not to release replays to our paid subscribers, but we're not going to be able to do that. We're going to be doing something more creative with our replays that we think the community will enjoy!"




Links to TL threads

- Boadcasting Schedule http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209251
- Pricepool Distribution and Maps http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209987
- Players http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209987, inclusive Xeris explanation for decision
- Tournament Format http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195486
- Stream Infomation http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=207744



Misc

- Liquipedia http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/North_American_Star_League_Season_1
- Fantasy NASL thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=206530
- NASL Details from motbob http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195205
- Application Vods http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=199090


Asked none of the thread starters, hope it´s ok that I copy things out (PM if not)
Bair
Profile Joined May 2010
United States698 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 15:40:15
April 07 2011 15:39 GMT
#2
Do we have any idea when finals will be? I have to request vacation before going in person

EDIT: And also, thank you! It is nice to have this all in one spot.
In Roaches I Rust.
preZzle
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany223 Posts
April 07 2011 15:39 GMT
#3
nice thats a thread ive been looking for, hopefully it gets updated regularly

thx
genius_man16
Profile Joined February 2011
United States749 Posts
April 07 2011 15:40 GMT
#4
Awesome complation! Everything a man could hope for

My only question is can you watch the rebroadcast if you don't live in europe? Like could I re-watch the games at 11 am Central time when they rebroadcast them or is it region specific?
Dyrus | Vooby | Balls | Meteos | WildTurtle | Bjergsen | Cop | sexPeke | Xpecial | Aphromoo | Scarra |
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
April 07 2011 15:44 GMT
#5
Backwater Gulch is in the map pool, wtf?
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
April 07 2011 15:46 GMT
#6
Thanks OP, it was a pain trying to dig through several different threads to get the whole picture!
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 16:04:45
April 07 2011 15:52 GMT
#7
On April 08 2011 00:39 Bair wrote:
Do we have any idea when finals will be? I have to request vacation before going in person

EDIT: And also, thank you! It is nice to have this all in one spot.


First broadcasting day should be 12.april and if you look at "tournament format" it says that final are in week 13 so the 3rd week in June if I´m right.
Quite a long time, there are for sure more and detailed informtions till then.

On April 08 2011 00:40 genius_man16 wrote:

My only question is can you watch the rebroadcast if you don't live in europe? Like could I re-watch the games at 11 am Central time when they rebroadcast them or is it region specific?


It´s just called this way because of the time they rebroadcast it. Everybody is able to watch it. Just beware of spoilers the day before on TL

On April 08 2011 00:55 jyareo wrote:
Yes, this is much better. Floors me that no-one from the nasl had even bothered to put something like this together to make things easier to follow.


Their new site must be ready any moment (hope so), I guess they simple wait for that. If it´s done and look good my hole post can be replaced by a link to their site


On April 08 2011 01:00 Bluerain wrote:
isnt GSL #1 closer to 80k and 2nd somewhere around 30k?


GSL changed distribution after GSL3 (if i remember correct), since GSL January it´s as shown above. More informations and discussion in the thread linked above, wasn´t interested in this so much
jyareo
Profile Joined September 2010
Japan3 Posts
April 07 2011 15:55 GMT
#8
Yes, this is much better. Floors me that no-one from the nasl had even bothered to put something like this together to make things easier to follow.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2844 Posts
April 07 2011 15:58 GMT
#9
On April 08 2011 00:44 Offhand wrote:
Backwater Gulch is in the map pool, wtf?



I actually like that. Don't know how other people feel about it, I was expecting to hate it but it provides some pretty exciting games.
aka wilted_kale
Bluerain
Profile Joined April 2010
United States348 Posts
April 07 2011 16:00 GMT
#10
isnt GSL #1 closer to 80k and 2nd somewhere around 30k?
CursedFeanor
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada539 Posts
April 07 2011 16:04 GMT
#11
very nice to have all the infos grouped in a single thread! thanks
CursedFeanor
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada539 Posts
April 07 2011 16:06 GMT
#12
On April 08 2011 01:00 Bluerain wrote:
isnt GSL #1 closer to 80k and 2nd somewhere around 30k?


that was during the first 3 open seasons. the price distribution changed since the new code S/A format.
Saiwa
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany789 Posts
April 07 2011 16:27 GMT
#13
Nice to see all the Information of NASL in one Threath !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM_P7eLbY48&feature=player_detailpage#t=359s YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO THIS TO ME CLIDE ! Artosis
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
April 07 2011 16:30 GMT
#14
is there any NASL thread except QandA that is created by actual NASL staff?

Thanks for this, very informative and clear.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Grabondall
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada19 Posts
April 07 2011 16:42 GMT
#15
thank god they let me watch funday monday... I was worried for one sec.
kommunalka
Profile Joined February 2011
United States550 Posts
April 07 2011 17:10 GMT
#16
On April 08 2011 01:30 ondik wrote:
is there any NASL thread except QandA that is created by actual NASL staff?

Thanks for this, very informative and clear.


I think the NASL threads on wellplayed.org are authorized by NASL staff.
rG
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
April 07 2011 17:14 GMT
#17
On April 08 2011 00:44 Offhand wrote:
Backwater Gulch is in the map pool, wtf?

Yea..... wth
That's one of those maps that no one really likes. I wonder what they thought there
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
Hunterai
Profile Joined October 2010
Thailand842 Posts
April 07 2011 17:16 GMT
#18
Just a question, where do you buy this "pre-sale" pass for NASL? I've been searching a bit and really could not find it. Probably my own stupidity but would really appreciate any help.
Rjay
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada73 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 17:22:49
April 07 2011 17:21 GMT
#19
On April 08 2011 02:14 tnud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 00:44 Offhand wrote:
Backwater Gulch is in the map pool, wtf?

Yea..... wth
That's one of those maps that no one really likes. I wonder what they thought there

What else could they really put in there? The rush distances on slag pits is just hilarious. Scrap is getting really dated, and delta is just horrible on alot of levels. Backwater gulch has the potential to produce some nice games.

edit: Testbug would have been nice though.
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
April 07 2011 17:24 GMT
#20
On April 08 2011 02:16 Hunterai wrote:
Just a question, where do you buy this "pre-sale" pass for NASL? I've been searching a bit and really could not find it. Probably my own stupidity but would really appreciate any help.


On http://nasl.tv/ click on "presale ticket" in upper right. If you don´t see it clear your cache/cookies (I had the case that the site didn´t actualise when going through browser history).
When buying the ticket theres a field where you must write "presalenasl", the discount isn´t shown on the site, just when you check your bank account. Check http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=207744 for informations, I didn´t bye a ticket myself.
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
April 07 2011 17:29 GMT
#21
great compilation... thanks so mcuh!
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
Sumwar
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada199 Posts
April 07 2011 17:31 GMT
#22
Wow that is one top heavy prizepool. I look forward to NASL I hope it does well and allows many people to play SC2 fulltime as a lot of foreigners can't play all day since they don't get enough prize money to afford to do so.
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
April 07 2011 17:36 GMT
#23
its kinda stupid that still people are comparing GSL to NASL
They are both different in many ways. Also NASL can't fit to 3 weeks just like GSL considering it have EUR, CAN, USA, KOR and SEA players
sdrawkcab_
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway113 Posts
April 07 2011 17:38 GMT
#24
has there been any mention of who provides the prize pool? ie who's the sponsor?
Avalain
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada308 Posts
April 07 2011 17:45 GMT
#25
On April 08 2011 02:24 Hondelul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 02:16 Hunterai wrote:
Just a question, where do you buy this "pre-sale" pass for NASL? I've been searching a bit and really could not find it. Probably my own stupidity but would really appreciate any help.


On http://nasl.tv/ click on "presale ticket" in upper right. If you don´t see it clear your cache/cookies (I had the case that the site didn´t actualise when going through browser history).
When buying the ticket theres a field where you must write "presalenasl", the discount isn´t shown on the site, just when you check your bank account. Check http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=207744 for informations, I didn´t bye a ticket myself.


This is correct, but the $20 does show up in your email receipt as well.
You know what unit really has balance problems? Colossi. Why, they look like they could be blown over in a stiff wind!
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
April 07 2011 17:54 GMT
#26
On April 08 2011 02:36 DarkRise wrote:
its kinda stupid that still people are comparing GSL to NASL
They are both different in many ways. Also NASL can't fit to 3 weeks just like GSL considering it have EUR, CAN, USA, KOR and SEA players


There is an other thread in General where top heavy distribution is heavily discussed. In Pricepool Distribution that´s also one of the most discussed point. Therefor I put that comparison in the op to provide a bit more than pure informations.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
April 07 2011 17:55 GMT
#27
Thanks for putting this together. Super excited to see how this league plays out over its first few seasons. Looks like there is going to be some killer matchups.
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 18:18:12
April 07 2011 18:17 GMT
#28
On April 08 2011 02:38 sdrawkcab_ wrote:
has there been any mention of who provides the prize pool? ie who's the sponsor?

No corporate sponsor, it's a private investor.
tarath
Profile Joined April 2009
United States377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 18:28:10
April 07 2011 18:24 GMT
#29
If only they had some kind of website where they could compile this information and present it in an organized and professional fashion to their customer base like a company that is actually trying to create and sell a quality product...

Their website doesn't even tell you what day/time the broadcast starts last I checked which means that to tell my friends about NASL I have to link them to random TL threads which can't be good for business.

All that aside though I am super pumped for NASL . I just don't want them to fail because they aren't handling the business side of things optimally.

As a business any time you have customers asking questions like this

On April 08 2011 02:16 Hunterai wrote:
Just a question, where do you buy this "pre-sale" pass for NASL? I've been searching a bit and really could not find it. Probably my own stupidity but would really appreciate any help.


you can be 100% sure you are leaving money on the table.
Freezy3
Profile Joined March 2010
New Zealand68 Posts
April 07 2011 19:17 GMT
#30
Still no confirmation that they will be releasing replays for purchasing season tickets. It says the tickets include replays but I cant get anyone to actually confirm it
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
April 07 2011 19:32 GMT
#31
On April 08 2011 04:17 Freezy3 wrote:
Still no confirmation that they will be releasing replays for purchasing season tickets. It says the tickets include replays but I cant get anyone to actually confirm it


When the official site says replays are included, what other confirmation do you want/would you believe?
But can you please tell me where it is stated? Would be nice to quote if the question comes.
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
April 07 2011 19:34 GMT
#32
You're NOT going to get replays. You'll get access to the VODs with the season ticket, but no one is getting replays.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
April 07 2011 19:44 GMT
#33
On April 08 2011 00:39 Bair wrote:
Do we have any idea when finals will be? I have to request vacation before going in person

EDIT: And also, thank you! It is nice to have this all in one spot.


This, my mom is going to drive me out, LoL live like 6 hours away.
ponyo.848
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
April 07 2011 21:20 GMT
#34
On April 08 2011 04:34 GeorgeForeman wrote:
You're NOT going to get replays. You'll get access to the VODs with the season ticket, but no one is getting replays.


You are right, I asked Xeris per PM and got the answer:

From: Xeris [ 12974 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Replays included in NASL ticket?
Date: 4/8/11 06:02
Hey, we were originally debating whether or not to release replays to our paid subscribers, but we're not going to be able to do that. We're going to be doing something more creative with our replays that we think the community will enjoy!

Thanks for the fast answer Xeris, I´m very curious
Hunterai
Profile Joined October 2010
Thailand842 Posts
April 08 2011 12:24 GMT
#35
On April 08 2011 02:24 Hondelul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 02:16 Hunterai wrote:
Just a question, where do you buy this "pre-sale" pass for NASL? I've been searching a bit and really could not find it. Probably my own stupidity but would really appreciate any help.


On http://nasl.tv/ click on "presale ticket" in upper right. If you don´t see it clear your cache/cookies (I had the case that the site didn´t actualise when going through browser history).
When buying the ticket theres a field where you must write "presalenasl", the discount isn´t shown on the site, just when you check your bank account. Check http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=207744 for informations, I didn´t bye a ticket myself.


Thanks. I think it was the cookies thing that make me not seeing it. Anyway, it seems it's a bit too late now. But still, 25$ for a tons of VODs is more than a good deal :-)
Lodgeinator
Profile Joined March 2011
England8 Posts
April 08 2011 16:03 GMT
#36
The UK is now in British Summer Time, so we are effectivly in the same time zone as central Europe. This may or may not affect the rebroardcast times depending on wether this has been accouted for.
Thorxes
Profile Joined January 2011
United States119 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 18:09:37
April 08 2011 18:07 GMT
#37
On April 08 2011 06:20 Hondelul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 04:34 GeorgeForeman wrote:
You're NOT going to get replays. You'll get access to the VODs with the season ticket, but no one is getting replays.


You are right, I asked Xeris per PM and got the answer:

From: Xeris [ 12974 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Replays included in NASL ticket?
Date: 4/8/11 06:02
Hey, we were originally debating whether or not to release replays to our paid subscribers, but we're not going to be able to do that. We're going to be doing something more creative with our replays that we think the community will enjoy!

Thanks for the fast answer Xeris, I´m very curious




So what's keeping the NASL from "being able to release replays"? Is it that they can't or won't? The wording by Xeris implies that they can't; I'm just curious why?

Also, what's the "more creative" idea?
I feel like I used to be smarter....but that's when I knew less.
reprise
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada316 Posts
April 08 2011 18:35 GMT
#38
On April 09 2011 03:07 Thorxes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 06:20 Hondelul wrote:
On April 08 2011 04:34 GeorgeForeman wrote:
You're NOT going to get replays. You'll get access to the VODs with the season ticket, but no one is getting replays.


You are right, I asked Xeris per PM and got the answer:

From: Xeris [ 12974 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Replays included in NASL ticket?
Date: 4/8/11 06:02
Hey, we were originally debating whether or not to release replays to our paid subscribers, but we're not going to be able to do that. We're going to be doing something more creative with our replays that we think the community will enjoy!

Thanks for the fast answer Xeris, I´m very curious




So what's keeping the NASL from "being able to release replays"? Is it that they can't or won't? The wording by Xeris implies that they can't; I'm just curious why?

Also, what's the "more creative" idea?


Because they don't want someone else taking the replays, casting it themselves and putting it on Youtube so people who didn't get a subscription can go watch those instead of paying.
for graphs of passion, and charts of stars
Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
April 08 2011 18:43 GMT
#39
On April 09 2011 03:35 reprise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 03:07 Thorxes wrote:
On April 08 2011 06:20 Hondelul wrote:
On April 08 2011 04:34 GeorgeForeman wrote:
You're NOT going to get replays. You'll get access to the VODs with the season ticket, but no one is getting replays.


You are right, I asked Xeris per PM and got the answer:

From: Xeris [ 12974 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Replays included in NASL ticket?
Date: 4/8/11 06:02
Hey, we were originally debating whether or not to release replays to our paid subscribers, but we're not going to be able to do that. We're going to be doing something more creative with our replays that we think the community will enjoy!

Thanks for the fast answer Xeris, I´m very curious




So what's keeping the NASL from "being able to release replays"? Is it that they can't or won't? The wording by Xeris implies that they can't; I'm just curious why?

Also, what's the "more creative" idea?


Because they don't want someone else taking the replays, casting it themselves and putting it on Youtube so people who didn't get a subscription can go watch those instead of paying.


I'm pretty sure that's not why.

It has something to do with the legality of charging money for in-game content. As the creator and distributor of the NASL broadcast, they are free to charge for video on demand of that broadcast. But the replays are not NASL's property, they are played on Battle.net and charging people for access to something that cannot be copyrighted is a gray area.
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Thorxes
Profile Joined January 2011
United States119 Posts
April 08 2011 18:44 GMT
#40
On April 09 2011 03:35 reprise wrote:
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On April 09 2011 03:07 Thorxes wrote:
On April 08 2011 06:20 Hondelul wrote:
On April 08 2011 04:34 GeorgeForeman wrote:
You're NOT going to get replays. You'll get access to the VODs with the season ticket, but no one is getting replays.


You are right, I asked Xeris per PM and got the answer:

From: Xeris [ 12974 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Replays included in NASL ticket?
Date: 4/8/11 06:02
Hey, we were originally debating whether or not to release replays to our paid subscribers, but we're not going to be able to do that. We're going to be doing something more creative with our replays that we think the community will enjoy!

Thanks for the fast answer Xeris, I´m very curious




So what's keeping the NASL from "being able to release replays"? Is it that they can't or won't? The wording by Xeris implies that they can't; I'm just curious why?

Also, what's the "more creative" idea?


Because they don't want someone else taking the replays, casting it themselves and putting it on Youtube so people who didn't get a subscription can go watch those instead of paying.



But part of the whole perk to NASL was their production value. The quality of THEIR casters. The editing of the cast. That's exactly what you're paying for with your ticket, and you won't get that kind of quality with another caster that doesn't have the resources NASL has.

So if someone else casts a replay that's released; they won't get what you paid to get with your NASL ticket.

That's at least how I've always viewed the NASL access. Kind of how you can get a bootleg version of a movie that just came out....but you could pay money to see it on the big screen, with amazing sound, and amazing quality. And people pay for that all the time. I'd pay for that too. I'd just also like to go back, after watching an amazing match, and analyze game specifics that you can only get from a replay.
I feel like I used to be smarter....but that's when I knew less.
regulator_mk
Profile Joined June 2010
United States127 Posts
April 08 2011 21:15 GMT
#41
I'm not a fan of the map schedule (not the map pool, but the way they are scheduled). Is there a good reason for why the map pool for all the matches on any given day should be the same? From a spectator point of view, it seems like it would be a bad thing since you're going to repeatedly see the same maps despite the large map pool. For example, in day 1, we only get to see people play on terminus, crossfire, and backwater. Xel'naga caverns doesn't show up at all until week 3, at which point crevasse goes on a 2-week hiatus...

I guess it's the best way to make sure that each player gets to play each map a roughly equal amount of times, but I don't think that really adds any "fairness" or anything, since not everyone plays the same race match-ups anyway. And even if you have to enforce this (each column of the little map table must have each of the 9 map groups appearing once), they could at least mix up the order a little so map group F shows up before week 5.
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
April 08 2011 21:27 GMT
#42
Does anyone know how will they solve the KR-EU lag? Also, on what server will NA-EU and KR-NA be played?

Will it be the same as in TSL?
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 02:21:08
April 09 2011 02:04 GMT
#43
On April 09 2011 06:15 regulator_mk wrote:
I'm not a fan of the map schedule (not the map pool, but the way they are scheduled). Is there a good reason for why the map pool for all the matches on any given day should be the same? From a spectator point of view, it seems like it would be a bad thing since you're going to repeatedly see the same maps despite the large map pool.


Well I guess for new spectators who don´t know much about sc it´s much more easy to get into it if you see the same 3 maps for 5 matchups instead of 9 maps.
If like it much more if the same maps are played, it´s more simple to compare the matches. Keep in mind it´s also ment for "noobs" (in no way a bad meaning).


On April 09 2011 06:27 Odoakar wrote:
Does anyone know how will they solve the KR-EU lag? Also, on what server will NA-EU and KR-NA be played?

Will it be the same as in TSL?


Don´t know about it, but KR-Eu seems unplayable. I guess for fair conditions everyone has to play on US, so everyone can prepare for lag.
Jinro made a good post about that here
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
April 09 2011 02:06 GMT
#44
Artosis needs to say... SO MANY GAMES!!!
Slago
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada726 Posts
April 09 2011 02:16 GMT
#45
good work putting it all together
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 09 2011 02:57 GMT
#46
On April 09 2011 06:15 regulator_mk wrote:
I'm not a fan of the map schedule (not the map pool, but the way they are scheduled). Is there a good reason for why the map pool for all the matches on any given day should be the same? From a spectator point of view, it seems like it would be a bad thing since you're going to repeatedly see the same maps despite the large map pool. For example, in day 1, we only get to see people play on terminus, crossfire, and backwater. Xel'naga caverns doesn't show up at all until week 3, at which point crevasse goes on a 2-week hiatus...

I guess it's the best way to make sure that each player gets to play each map a roughly equal amount of times, but I don't think that really adds any "fairness" or anything, since not everyone plays the same race match-ups anyway. And even if you have to enforce this (each column of the little map table must have each of the 9 map groups appearing once), they could at least mix up the order a little so map group F shows up before week 5.


I kind of agree with you, but they need a way to structure the tournament in as fair a way as possible. Also, on day 1 there are 5 games, 1 from each division, so we will see 5 matches (bo3), and they will go through maps A through G potentially over the course of the games. We're guaranteed to see 6 different maps played in one night.

However, the point about XNC and Crevasse being on hiatus is accurate and that is a little disappointing to me, but it could just as easily have been a random pool selection and every match is played on the same 3 maps by sheer dumb luck. The way NASL is structured is to give the most diverse experience to the viewer. The divisions are set up to each have a couple koreans, a nice mix of races for good matchups and a different map sequence to keep things fresh.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
April 09 2011 03:18 GMT
#47
Sorry if this has been asked already,

But what is the format of the re-qualifying tournament for the bottom 16? Will it be bracketed, a round robin or something else?



Freezy3
Profile Joined March 2010
New Zealand68 Posts
April 09 2011 07:32 GMT
#48
On April 08 2011 06:20 Hondelul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 04:34 GeorgeForeman wrote:
You're NOT going to get replays. You'll get access to the VODs with the season ticket, but no one is getting replays.


You are right, I asked Xeris per PM and got the answer:

From: Xeris [ 12974 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Replays included in NASL ticket?
Date: 4/8/11 06:02
Hey, we were originally debating whether or not to release replays to our paid subscribers, but we're not going to be able to do that. We're going to be doing something more creative with our replays that we think the community will enjoy!

Thanks for the fast answer Xeris, I´m very curious


Thanks to all your replies, much appreciated and saved me a good 20$.
I guess that means I will not be able to watch any games from NASL unless they change their minds.

Heres a screenshot of the old website information for anyone that was interested.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Thanks
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
April 09 2011 09:56 GMT
#49
On April 09 2011 16:32 Freezy3 wrote:

Thanks to all your replies, much appreciated and saved me a good 20$.
I guess that means I will not be able to watch any games from NASL unless they change their minds.

Heres a screenshot of the old website information for anyone that was interested.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Thanks


Yeah found on nasl twitter

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@notlobot #NASLS1 yes the season pass includes replays per our FAQ Donnerstag, 7. April 2011 03:34:16 via Twitter for iPad als Antwort auf notlobot

But since Xeris answer was more up to date I didn´t quote that. Must have been a late decision, good that you asked they shoud have updated the FAQ.

But why now no ticket? Do you just watch replays normaly and no vods?
I will not buy a ticket because of no paypal yet and I don´t have a good Inet connection, hopefully LQ runs smooth. Since I watch commercials then I don´t have a bad conscience for "not supporting e-sports"
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
April 09 2011 10:09 GMT
#50
I LOVE those broadcasts for the UK just as I get home put some NASL on in the background all night. Gonna be sickkkkkk
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Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 16:07:28
April 09 2011 15:53 GMT
#51
artosis back competitively? but...but what about GSL
EDIT: Nvm! GOGO ARTOSIS FIGHTING!!
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
April 09 2011 16:32 GMT
#52
Closed as per request by the OP
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