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On April 07 2011 00:52 Alejandrisha wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 00:37 marvellosity wrote:On April 06 2011 23:57 Alejandrisha wrote:
If you want to all in some one to punish them there are several ways 10x better than this.
- Thor rush should insta-win against 3gate-nexus-robo and has a chance against 1gate fe
- 1 base tank marine push (3 tanks) should auto-win against 3gate fe and if you push with 1 tank you pretty much auto-win against 1gate fe
So tell me, how are we supposed to expand exactly? I ask this seriously. Well to be honest, I was speaking with pre-patch maps in mind. You can probably get away with being a little more greedy on the new maps, for sure. The only one that I still feel is pretty unwinnable is 3gateway-nexus-robo against thor rush, however. One gate robo into 3 gate robo and expanding is the safest way, however. It gives you the ability to scout one of these all-ins, stay on one base, and smash it.
Totally off-topic, but since this topic is awful anyways I don't feel bad; I'm a little curious about the work you've done with 3gate-expo-+robo. In the scenarios you auto lose, is the fact proxy'd? It seems to me like your pressure (assuming something like the 3gate pressure/contain expand, such as CecilSunkure mapped out in some other awesome thread), should arrive at his front door before his thor hits your base. If he's defending his ramp with just bunker + marines, your build is sentry heavy enough that you ought to be able to FF the bunker, kill it, and engage in some sort of crazy base trade? (the 3gate expand build I mentioned is noted for being able to punish fast-teching terrans relying on just one bunker, a la Alicia vs MVP on XNC)
I suppose in a situation like close-pos Metal or something, where proxying isnt necessary and there's no chance of your stuff hitting his base when his thor's hitting yours, I can see why it would be auto-loss, however.
Sorry, was just reading the thread and was curious about your post, as I haven't had anyone thor rush me in a while ;x
Also, lol@The Brackster.
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I'm going to echo the sentiments of a few other posters here.
Regardless of whether or not your build is viable or not... The following reasons make your post hard to take seriously, and obnoxious to read.
i) naming the build after yourself and continuing to do so despite the surfacing of select's replay
ii) signing your name as liquid_brackett after every post to establish a false sense of authority
iii) citing root.destiny's mass queen strat as an example that diamond and below strats dont matter if mechanics are good (a little presumptuous no?)
iv) sarcastically replying to other posters with phrases such as 'squire' etc.
Just my advice. Try some modesty.
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edit: troll thread nvm not gonna discuss lol
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What the hell happened to the strategy forum purge? This "guide" is obviously a troll, and if it's not, it's a terrible guide.
Stop validating him by discussing his "strategy."
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On April 07 2011 00:46 GaryBrackett wrote:For all the people asking why this build is original. It's the Expansion and the use of MULES to guarantee constant reinforcement. If a replay is found of a Professional using this exact technique i will be happy to name it after them  All of the flame and unjustified criticism is plain vindictive.
...Ooooh! It's the expansion which won't finish until after the attack finishes which guarantees the constant reinforcement! Gotcha! Hey: while we're at it: l've got a new build for you:
It's a Terran build, even though I'm a Zerg/Protoss player, but I came up with it just now for you. I'm going to call it "Belittling", because that's part of my name.
+ Show Spoiler +Right anyways, here's the build order.
12 Rax
14 Rax
16 Rax
17 CC
18 CC
20 CC
28 CC
29 5 more Rax
Okay see now at this time, you should have about 4 CC's and 1 OC, aka 5 bases. AND 8 Barracks. Throw on tech labs on all 5 Barracks, Reactor on 3. Now, with your 5 bases, you should be able to support ALL of these rax's making constant Marauders and marines. So make like 19 supply depoits right away, and deny the guys natural. You should be able to poke and win the game as he'll probably only have about 10 units by this time.
Now of course I'm being sarcastic, and that was indeed a hyperbole (Which means to greatly exaggerate to prove the underlying point). That point was: this is nothing new, not even the slightest. Don't make threads like this ever again unless you want to get perma banned out of this community. We all think it'd be pretty sweet if we came out with this hardcore awesome new strategy that works at even the highest levels of play, unfortunately: very very very few of us actually do.
Now: when you get good enough to be say CecilSunkure - you can guide people in the direction of appropriately executing already well-known build orders, using replays for reference; however, I don't think your at that point yet. Surely not like this. And even the people who have their name in their build somehow, got it not by the user asking for it, but because the community either loved or respected the player enough. E.G: The very modest Fistdantilus making up the 5 Roach Rush, and others started to call each roach a finger of the fist.
Your punishing a fast expand which high unit count early on, and the pulling of workers. This has been done thousands of times in the past. And you even linked someone doing it, that wasn't you. Why aren't they getting any credit?
I really hope mods close this thread, because it's taking up space on the left thread bar of threads I WANT to read so I can stay in touch with the meta game.
~Jeffbelittle, a player. Nothing special.
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All-inning in PvT is now called Bracketting, got it.
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Several things I am genuinely interested in:
1.) How is this different than any other Marine/ Marauder / SCV all-in?
2.) Why did you want to attach your name to it? Why should anyone call it "Bracketting"?
3.) Y U NO HAVE REPLAYS?!
4.) When did you get recruited to team Liquid?
On April 06 2011 21:22 GaryBrackett wrote:Liquid_Brackett 
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I can make a variation of the 3 stalker rush by getting 5 stalkers in total (2 stalkers right after) and call it stalkering for god's sake.
I actually 1 gate FE in every map/position except for Delta, Steppes of War, and close positions.
I never knew it was that unsafe vs huge chokes because I really only played it like 10% out of my PvT's (talking about the very early marauder pressure).
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On April 07 2011 06:46 iChau wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 06:39 Moody wrote:Several things I am genuinely interested in: 1.) How is this different than any other Marine/ Marauder / SCV all-in? 2.) Why did you want to attach your name to it? Why should anyone call it "Bracketting"? 3.) Y U NO HAVE REPLAYS?! 4.) When did you get recruited to team Liquid? On April 06 2011 21:22 GaryBrackett wrote:Liquid_Brackett I can make a variation of the 3 stalker rush by getting 5 stalkers in total (2 stalkers right after) and call it stalkering for god's sake. I actually 1 gate FE in every map/position except for Delta, Steppes of War, and close positions. I never knew it was that unsafe vs huge chokes because I really only played it like 10% out of my PvT's (talking about the very early marauder pressure).
I see no relation between your post and my post... I don't understand why you quoted me.
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On April 07 2011 06:49 Moody wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 06:46 iChau wrote:On April 07 2011 06:39 Moody wrote:Several things I am genuinely interested in: 1.) How is this different than any other Marine/ Marauder / SCV all-in? 2.) Why did you want to attach your name to it? Why should anyone call it "Bracketting"? 3.) Y U NO HAVE REPLAYS?! 4.) When did you get recruited to team Liquid? On April 06 2011 21:22 GaryBrackett wrote:Liquid_Brackett I can make a variation of the 3 stalker rush by getting 5 stalkers in total (2 stalkers right after) and call it stalkering for god's sake. I actually 1 gate FE in every map/position except for Delta, Steppes of War, and close positions. I never knew it was that unsafe vs huge chokes because I really only played it like 10% out of my PvT's (talking about the very early marauder pressure). I see no relation between your post and my post... I don't understand why you quoted me.
Meant to click on edit.
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I'm Masters on EU why would i be on the US server when i'm from Bulgaria
It is possible to have a different account name to TeamLiquid username :S
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On April 07 2011 06:38 iChau wrote:50 wins 0 losses.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2690435/1/GaryBrackett/matches
On April 07 2011 06:53 GaryBrackett wrote:I'm Masters on EU why would i be on the US server when i'm from Bulgaria It is possible to have a different account name to TeamLiquid username :S
Link your account then? I just searched garybrackett on the EU server and there's nothing resembling it.
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Oh sc2ranks is kinda funky then.
Ty.
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On April 07 2011 06:53 GaryBrackett wrote:I'm Masters on EU why would i be on the US server when i'm from Bulgaria It is possible to have a different account name to TeamLiquid username :S
So show us your b.net link and then prove it by uploading a replay (go into game and just surrender right after, type that you're garybrackett in tl, custom game of course).
That should be enough evidence that you're in masters as long as you provide the b.net link.
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I wonder if Bracketting's a possible strategy to use against the Gracken.
But what's the point of posting a generic marauder/bunker rush, and naming it after yourself?
EDIT: My bad, troll thread. ;-;
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What the fuck is this?
"hi guys i am garybrackett, i invented scv-allining, i made this whole build up on how to do the best scv all in, i named it after myself"
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This is retarded. Sorry guys, I should have closed this when I looked at it the first time.
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EPT
