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On March 31 2011 15:32 Leeto wrote:
Units set on follow tend to bumble around a lot trying to get to the guy they're following. If you see someone acting strange after a move command, kill him.
"OKAY LET'S GO!"
"MOVE MOVE MOVE"
*nudge* "Ey-yo Frankie's actin all weird n shit"
"Guy musta had one too many stims... Frankie cut that crap out and just follow us!"
Frankie: "GURRGLELGLELE"
"Whatever... OK ON THREE, ONE, TWO, THREE, A-MOVE!"
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On March 31 2011 15:32 Leeto wrote:
Units set on follow tend to bumble around a lot trying to get to the guy they're following. If you see someone acting strange after a move command, kill him.
Good thing dragoons were removed, eh?
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On March 31 2011 14:42 Rodeo wrote:
I love how half the replies in this thread are "I'm not sure, but I think X" wrong thing. If you don't know, why are you typing? Changelings do not get upgrades, so if you are Z the easiest way is to look for the slow zergling. I'm not a T player so I don't know if it's easy to notice that a marine doesn't have a combat shield, but the next easiest way is to select *only* the possible changeling and give it a command, which it won't follow. /dance works too, but you have to type it out and you shouldn't use it when you might be attacked. At a high level players know where all their units should be and often how many should be there, so they will usually notice changelings immediately. High level zergs are more apt to use changelings as disposable scouts that can take a different path through the base as the overseer so as to get vision of a greater area or to sit at a watchtower.
You just mocked people for posting information without checking to make sure it's right and did it yourself! Come on, man. Be nice or be right, or both!
Changelings placed prior to upgrades won't receive the upgrade visuals, but they will morph with a shield (for marines) or wings (for zerglings) if the owner of the unit they're detecting has those upgrades. They do not receive the speed bonus from the upgrade (for protoss/zerg).
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The best method I've seen for detecting it as a marine is to double click your marines and try to notice one wasn't selected. Also, if you've stimmed and one lags behind it's probably a changeling.
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On March 31 2011 09:57 iChau wrote:
I always glance at the minimap, and as soon as I see a dot I just right-click on the unit.
This is PvZ, and it's the same thing as TvZ because against ling/baneling zerg can afford overseers better than roach/hydra so I go zealot/sentry.
Just glance at a minimap. There's NO reason for a marine to be walking towards your army when you had it stationary.
you know how much gas bling/myta/upgrades/tech costs? god forbid you addin a few festors.
The reason overseers are more popular zvp is very simple, mutas are good scouts aswell
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One tactic that I've seen used against me is where you rapidly click "move" with the group of marines that the changeling is set to follow. What ensues is that your marines will move back and forth rapidly, and there is a delay on the changeling's movements because it is always facing the unit that it was set to follow.
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On March 31 2011 15:52 urashimakt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2011 14:42 Rodeo wrote:
I love how half the replies in this thread are "I'm not sure, but I think X" wrong thing. If you don't know, why are you typing? Changelings do not get upgrades, so if you are Z the easiest way is to look for the slow zergling. I'm not a T player so I don't know if it's easy to notice that a marine doesn't have a combat shield, but the next easiest way is to select *only* the possible changeling and give it a command, which it won't follow. /dance works too, but you have to type it out and you shouldn't use it when you might be attacked. At a high level players know where all their units should be and often how many should be there, so they will usually notice changelings immediately. High level zergs are more apt to use changelings as disposable scouts that can take a different path through the base as the overseer so as to get vision of a greater area or to sit at a watchtower. You just mocked people for posting information without checking to make sure it's right and did it yourself! Come on, man. Be nice or be right, or both! Changelings placed prior to upgrades won't receive the upgrade visuals, but they will morph with a shield (for marines) or wings (for zerglings) if the owner of the unit they're detecting has those upgrades. They do not receive the speed bonus from the upgrade (for protoss/zerg). + Show Spoiler [Full sized image] +The best method I've seen for detecting it as a marine is to double click your marines and try to notice one wasn't selected. Also, if you've stimmed and one lags behind it's probably a changeling.
- "Ok, all units in selection Stim and attack"
- "Hey, those 4 guys lag behind, shoot them"
- "Wait, they didn't die like changelings... f***, those were the marines i rallied from the rax on my units"
Just remember to always confirm before shooting the poor marines you just forgot to add to the selection.
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Changeling = parasite from BW ?!? :DD
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Not being able to right-click to kill a changeling would definitely buff this (quite useless) unit. It should be treated as one of your own units. So right-clicking should result in your units following the changeling. Consistency ftw.
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Stim all your marines, the one thats still full life is a changling. Shoot it.
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On March 31 2011 16:24 Amandil wrote:
Stim all your marines, the one thats still full life is a changling. Shoot it.
If I can get terrans to stim their marines simply for detecting a changling, I might start use it more.
On March 31 2011 10:07 justaguy-aaa wrote:
Well I think the best way to find the changeling is to kill it before it joins your clump of marines. I dunno everytime I try changeling, opponents detects it easily. It is really depends on their skill i reckon
I don't know, I've gone from silver to diamond and most people regardless of league tend to kill the changling quite fast. Maybe I've just been unlucky.
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On March 31 2011 14:03 WhatsHisFace wrote:
If you hold your cursor over them the coloured ring beneath them will be yellow.
I double checked that and it's actually not true. Mousing over a changeling that's disguised as one of your units cons green. However, if you click on it there's a few discrepancies: it's named Changeling, it has no weapon icon, it lacks the attribute types (Light, Biological, etc), it doesn't receive speed upgrades, and it has 0 armor no matter what.
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As you can see there are tons of possibilities
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