• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:39
CEST 22:39
KST 05:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !11Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results1
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 SC2 INu's Battles#16 <BO.9> Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
Flashes ASL S21 Ro8 Review ASL Tickets to Live Event Finals? BW General Discussion Pros React To: Leta vs Tulbo (ASL S21, Ro.8) (Spoiler) Interview ASL Ro4 Day 2 Winner
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL21] Semifinals A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1435 users

how do you detect a changeling in tvz - Page 3

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
Asparagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States269 Posts
March 31 2011 06:35 GMT
#41
On March 31 2011 15:32 Leeto wrote:
Units set on follow tend to bumble around a lot trying to get to the guy they're following. If you see someone acting strange after a move command, kill him.




"OKAY LET'S GO!"
"MOVE MOVE MOVE"

*nudge* "Ey-yo Frankie's actin all weird n shit"
"Guy musta had one too many stims... Frankie cut that crap out and just follow us!"
Frankie: "GURRGLELGLELE"
"Whatever... OK ON THREE, ONE, TWO, THREE, A-MOVE!"
This isn't the right quote!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45915 Posts
March 31 2011 06:48 GMT
#42
On March 31 2011 15:32 Leeto wrote:
Units set on follow tend to bumble around a lot trying to get to the guy they're following. If you see someone acting strange after a move command, kill him.



Good thing dragoons were removed, eh?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 06:53:43
March 31 2011 06:52 GMT
#43
On March 31 2011 14:42 Rodeo wrote:
I love how half the replies in this thread are "I'm not sure, but I think X" wrong thing. If you don't know, why are you typing? Changelings do not get upgrades, so if you are Z the easiest way is to look for the slow zergling. I'm not a T player so I don't know if it's easy to notice that a marine doesn't have a combat shield, but the next easiest way is to select *only* the possible changeling and give it a command, which it won't follow. /dance works too, but you have to type it out and you shouldn't use it when you might be attacked. At a high level players know where all their units should be and often how many should be there, so they will usually notice changelings immediately. High level zergs are more apt to use changelings as disposable scouts that can take a different path through the base as the overseer so as to get vision of a greater area or to sit at a watchtower.

You just mocked people for posting information without checking to make sure it's right and did it yourself! Come on, man. Be nice or be right, or both!

Changelings placed prior to upgrades won't receive the upgrade visuals, but they will morph with a shield (for marines) or wings (for zerglings) if the owner of the unit they're detecting has those upgrades. They do not receive the speed bonus from the upgrade (for protoss/zerg).

[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Full sized image] +

[image loading]


The best method I've seen for detecting it as a marine is to double click your marines and try to notice one wasn't selected. Also, if you've stimmed and one lags behind it's probably a changeling.
Who dat ninja?
Krissam
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark189 Posts
March 31 2011 06:58 GMT
#44
On March 31 2011 09:57 iChau wrote:
I always glance at the minimap, and as soon as I see a dot I just right-click on the unit.

This is PvZ, and it's the same thing as TvZ because against ling/baneling zerg can afford overseers better than roach/hydra so I go zealot/sentry.

Just glance at a minimap. There's NO reason for a marine to be walking towards your army when you had it stationary.

you know how much gas bling/myta/upgrades/tech costs? god forbid you addin a few festors.

The reason overseers are more popular zvp is very simple, mutas are good scouts aswell
If you can chill, chill!" - TLAF-Liquid´Tyler
TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
March 31 2011 07:02 GMT
#45
One tactic that I've seen used against me is where you rapidly click "move" with the group of marines that the changeling is set to follow. What ensues is that your marines will move back and forth rapidly, and there is a delay on the changeling's movements because it is always facing the unit that it was set to follow.
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
March 31 2011 07:02 GMT
#46
On March 31 2011 15:52 urashimakt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 14:42 Rodeo wrote:
I love how half the replies in this thread are "I'm not sure, but I think X" wrong thing. If you don't know, why are you typing? Changelings do not get upgrades, so if you are Z the easiest way is to look for the slow zergling. I'm not a T player so I don't know if it's easy to notice that a marine doesn't have a combat shield, but the next easiest way is to select *only* the possible changeling and give it a command, which it won't follow. /dance works too, but you have to type it out and you shouldn't use it when you might be attacked. At a high level players know where all their units should be and often how many should be there, so they will usually notice changelings immediately. High level zergs are more apt to use changelings as disposable scouts that can take a different path through the base as the overseer so as to get vision of a greater area or to sit at a watchtower.

You just mocked people for posting information without checking to make sure it's right and did it yourself! Come on, man. Be nice or be right, or both!

Changelings placed prior to upgrades won't receive the upgrade visuals, but they will morph with a shield (for marines) or wings (for zerglings) if the owner of the unit they're detecting has those upgrades. They do not receive the speed bonus from the upgrade (for protoss/zerg).

[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Full sized image] +

[image loading]


The best method I've seen for detecting it as a marine is to double click your marines and try to notice one wasn't selected. Also, if you've stimmed and one lags behind it's probably a changeling.


- "Ok, all units in selection Stim and attack"
- "Hey, those 4 guys lag behind, shoot them"
- "Wait, they didn't die like changelings... f***, those were the marines i rallied from the rax on my units"

Just remember to always confirm before shooting the poor marines you just forgot to add to the selection.
lazydino
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada331 Posts
March 31 2011 07:15 GMT
#47
Changeling = parasite from BW ?!? :DD
"I have this moron thing that I do, it's called thinking" - George Carlin
Morphs
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands645 Posts
March 31 2011 07:18 GMT
#48
Not being able to right-click to kill a changeling would definitely buff this (quite useless) unit. It should be treated as one of your own units. So right-clicking should result in your units following the changeling. Consistency ftw.
Amandil
Profile Joined May 2010
United States58 Posts
March 31 2011 07:24 GMT
#49
Stim all your marines, the one thats still full life is a changling. Shoot it.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
March 31 2011 07:36 GMT
#50
On March 31 2011 16:24 Amandil wrote:
Stim all your marines, the one thats still full life is a changling. Shoot it.


If I can get terrans to stim their marines simply for detecting a changling, I might start use it more.

On March 31 2011 10:07 justaguy-aaa wrote:
Well I think the best way to find the changeling is to kill it before it joins your clump of marines. I dunno everytime I try changeling, opponents detects it easily. It is really depends on their skill i reckon


I don't know, I've gone from silver to diamond and most people regardless of league tend to kill the changling quite fast. Maybe I've just been unlucky.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
March 31 2011 07:48 GMT
#51
On March 31 2011 14:03 WhatsHisFace wrote:
If you hold your cursor over them the coloured ring beneath them will be yellow.

I double checked that and it's actually not true. Mousing over a changeling that's disguised as one of your units cons green. However, if you click on it there's a few discrepancies: it's named Changeling, it has no weapon icon, it lacks the attribute types (Light, Biological, etc), it doesn't receive speed upgrades, and it has 0 armor no matter what.
Who dat ninja?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
March 31 2011 08:36 GMT
#52
As you can see there are tons of possibilities
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 21m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 122
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 195
firebathero 139
Dewaltoss 104
soO 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Dota 2
Gorgc5758
monkeys_forever420
League of Legends
Doublelift1032
Reynor121
Counter-Strike
fl0m4964
Fnx 1361
byalli580
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu436
Other Games
summit1g6624
Grubby4258
Liquid`RaSZi1819
FrodaN1659
Beastyqt1157
B2W.Neo363
mouzStarbuck280
C9.Mang0179
Hui .177
shahzam129
Mew2King76
UpATreeSC75
Livibee74
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV588
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 77
• Hupsaiya 54
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• mYiSmile10
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 19
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1335
• Shiphtur241
• Scarra184
• WagamamaTV171
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 21m
The PondCast
13h 21m
OSC
13h 21m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
RSL Revival
1d 13h
OSC
1d 16h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
BSL
2 days
GSL
3 days
Cure vs herO
SHIN vs Maru
[ Show More ]
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-12
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W7
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.