how do you detect a changeling in tvz

On March 31 2011 09:09 BossPlaya wrote:
Scan or build a turret/raven?

On March 31 2011 09:09 NoisyNinja wrote:
Either you see it come in somewhere or if you see marines not following your orders, click on them, and it will say Changeling, at which point, you should kill it. If you see a marine where you didn't put one, kill him if it's a changeling. Look for the guy that doesn't belong.

On March 31 2011 09:12 Wilder wrote:
That's the annoying thing about changlings, if you don't notice one getting in, chances are you wont realise it's there until it's timer runs out.

On March 31 2011 09:16 nyc863 wrote:
yeah turret raven ghost - no effect.



I've had this before, if he orders a changeling to stand @ a position it just stands there and ignores commands. Kind of obvious the second time this ever happens what is going on. First time I thought the game was bugged, lol.

But if I have a group of marines and changeling has been set to follow, I'm still unsure how to fast find it. What order can I give to pick him out without clicking each marine in turn and ordering them to move. Seems impossible?

On March 31 2011 09:15 Aequos wrote:
What I usually do, if I suspect a changeling, is select my units and type /dance. The ones that don't dance are changlings, and are killed on sight. However, this has led to unfortunate moments where I've mistaken which one was the changeling...

On March 31 2011 09:21 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
If you select all the marines and tell them to move, if there's a changeling in there I believe that there will be a message saying "unit cannot be controlled" or something to the like in red text.

If not, I guess you could do the /dance thing. One suggestion I have is to shoot the suspect with only one marine. If you're right, the changeling only has 5 hp and dies from the first shot. If you're wrong, you're only down a couple hitpoints on one marine.

On March 31 2011 09:29 nyc863 wrote:
the /dance thing works but that is a bit of typing..

moving all the marines doesn't help if the changeling is set to follow. He will follow. I'll have to look at the highlight circles to see if one is missing.

I found another method, you box the army then do a fast N/S/E/W move click (or even E/W/E/W), the unit that does not turn to face each click direction is the changeling.

On March 31 2011 09:15 Aequos wrote:
What I usually do, if I suspect a changeling, is select my units and type /dance. The ones that don't dance are changlings, and are killed on sight. However, this has led to unfortunate moments where I've mistaken which one was the changeling...

On March 31 2011 09:30 NoisyNinja wrote:


Tell me the /dance thing. I want to know how to do it so spotting changelings is easier.

On March 31 2011 10:01 bearjuice wrote:


3) The changeling doesn't have any of the tech patterns on it. If you have speedlings, it looks like a zergling, if you have a marine with shield it looks like a normal marine, if you have a zealot with legs it doesn't have the legs.

Other than that you just have to really listen for that audible queue and then look for the changeling.

On March 31 2011 09:27 NoisyNinja wrote:


I never really got the "/dance" thing. How you do it? Type in "/dance"?

On March 31 2011 09:34 CodECleaR wrote:


Most epic way to detect a changeling.
Most.
Epic.

On March 31 2011 15:32 Leeto wrote:
Units set on follow tend to bumble around a lot trying to get to the guy they're following. If you see someone acting strange after a move command, kill him.

On March 31 2011 14:42 Rodeo wrote:
I love how half the replies in this thread are "I'm not sure, but I think X" wrong thing. If you don't know, why are you typing? Changelings do not get upgrades, so if you are Z the easiest way is to look for the slow zergling. I'm not a T player so I don't know if it's easy to notice that a marine doesn't have a combat shield, but the next easiest way is to select *only* the possible changeling and give it a command, which it won't follow. /dance works too, but you have to type it out and you shouldn't use it when you might be attacked. At a high level players know where all their units should be and often how many should be there, so they will usually notice changelings immediately. High level zergs are more apt to use changelings as disposable scouts that can take a different path through the base as the overseer so as to get vision of a greater area or to sit at a watchtower.

On March 31 2011 09:57 iChau wrote:
I always glance at the minimap, and as soon as I see a dot I just right-click on the unit.

This is PvZ, and it's the same thing as TvZ because against ling/baneling zerg can afford overseers better than roach/hydra so I go zealot/sentry.

Just glance at a minimap. There's NO reason for a marine to be walking towards your army when you had it stationary.

On March 31 2011 16:24 Amandil wrote:
Stim all your marines, the one thats still full life is a changling. Shoot it.

On March 31 2011 10:07 justaguy-aaa wrote:
Well I think the best way to find the changeling is to kill it before it joins your clump of marines. I dunno everytime I try changeling, opponents detects it easily. It is really depends on their skill i reckon

On March 31 2011 14:03 WhatsHisFace wrote:
If you hold your cursor over them the coloured ring beneath them will be yellow.