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wrk592
Profile Joined December 2010
United States45 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 03:36:48
March 26 2011 03:33 GMT
#1
Hi I can't play SC2 at college, so I was thinking of getting into BW. Any tips for a beginner? Can i play on ICCup without a cd key? And if I can, will anyone show me how?
Thanks guys

Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
March 26 2011 03:42 GMT
#2
Heya, and welcome to broodwar. You can access iccup without the key, all you need is their reg. Download the abyss package for convenience.

Transition from SC2 will be difficult but you can pull through. Browse through older "Coming into BW" games and you'll see a lot of helpful tips.

Everyone else will provide the technicalities but i strongly congratulate your transition and in fact I can call you quite lucky because it exactly 20 minutes, you can watch the play off rounds of top progamers live. I highly recommend you watch that and get some visual experience under your belt.

You'll enjoy it to boot. GL and enjoy your stay ^_^
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
March 26 2011 03:42 GMT
#3
On March 26 2011 12:33 wrk592 wrote:
Can i play on ICCup without a cd key? And if I can, will anyone show me how?
Thanks guys


1.1. Getting the latest version
To play on our server you will need a StarCraft: BroodWar 1.16.1 client. If you don't have one, you can download it from http://files.theabyss.ru/sc/starcraft.zip Note: You won't be able join official servers. We strictly recommend you to buy a licese copy.

http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/sc_start.html

You don't need a CD key to play on iccup. Just install the server onto the server list from the aforementioned site.
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 03:45:43
March 26 2011 03:45 GMT
#4
On March 26 2011 12:33 wrk592 wrote:
Hi I can't play SC2 at college, so I was thinking of getting into BW. Any tips for a beginner? Can i play on ICCup without a cd key? And if I can, will anyone show me how?
Thanks guys



Get a rage pillow or something else you can punch if you are coming from SC2 with no BW experience and actually want to play online.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 26 2011 03:47 GMT
#5
On March 26 2011 12:45 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 12:33 wrk592 wrote:
Hi I can't play SC2 at college, so I was thinking of getting into BW. Any tips for a beginner? Can i play on ICCup without a cd key? And if I can, will anyone show me how?
Thanks guys



Get a rage pillow or something else you can punch if you are coming from SC2 with no BW experience and actually want to play online.

This might sound silly, but honest to god, it is good advice. You have been warned.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
March 26 2011 03:51 GMT
#6
A good way to familiarize yourself with ping, hotkeys, and macro early on is to play Fastest Map Possible online. Casual fun that doesn't affect rating, and you'll learn fast to keep production facilities constantly pumping stuff/build more hatches compared to sc2/etc.

You will still need the rage pillow.
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 26 2011 03:52 GMT
#7
Yeah, having 0 experience in BW can often lead to much, much frustration.

If you need any help with general builds/game flow, add ConversiOn on iCCup. I'm a D player at best, but I can help you progress through if you promise not to get impatient and pissed off at me.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
March 26 2011 03:53 GMT
#8
If the rage pillow has spikes embedded deep within it's marshmellowy core, that will also help.
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wrk592
Profile Joined December 2010
United States45 Posts
March 26 2011 04:09 GMT
#9
I downloaded it and have a user name and everything, can get in the ICCup server and shit, but idk how to play a game
foldy
Profile Joined January 2008
Latvia60 Posts
March 26 2011 04:54 GMT
#10
iccup id foldy i wont to get into BW as well
CJ Entusman #10! "I will destroy everyon in 2009" <c>
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 04:58:01
March 26 2011 04:57 GMT
#11
Play games old skool style, host a game or join one. Also download the iccup mappack to be able to play on official maps.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
March 26 2011 04:57 GMT
#12
Agreed, BW is HELLA hard. HELLLAAAA hard.

Uhmm. Do we have any Bnet guides on how to join/create games?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
March 26 2011 05:21 GMT
#13
Also don't pick Terran. Or Zerg.
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
March 26 2011 05:23 GMT
#14
There were many who stepped the path before you:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=sc2&t=ct&f=6&u=&gb=date

You should make only melee games at first so that no points will be deducted. After losing some 20~30 odd games, you will win your first game against someone who is as clueless as you are. After losing another 20~30 odd games, you will manage to win against someone who plays standard, but really badly. Numbers are exaggerated but it's more or less how my Iccup experience went.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
Lumire
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States607 Posts
March 26 2011 05:27 GMT
#15
Actually starting out isn't as frustrating as later in the game because its really fun just playing. On the other hand once you try to improve a lot more you start to realize how hard some matchups are (ZvT... ugh) and start to get frustrated. Oh, and picking protoss helps.
|| o.o
ciaNo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Italy123 Posts
March 26 2011 05:28 GMT
#16
On March 26 2011 14:27 One wrote:
Oh, and picking protoss helps.


just like in starcraft 2 :D
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 05:34:47
March 26 2011 05:34 GMT
#17
Uhhh, best of luck.
Do not pray for easier life, pray to be stronger.

trust me, the first few weeks will be frustrating.


protip: use the search function
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
March 26 2011 05:51 GMT
#18
yah, GL BW is so much harder than sc2 ^^
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
March 26 2011 06:25 GMT
#19
Play through the campaign!
It'll help familiarize you with the controls/units. It will lessen frustration. A lot. Not enough
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
March 26 2011 06:57 GMT
#20
Come back and ask again after you have lost countless times in a row on Iccup. Play at least a hundred games please
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
March 26 2011 07:10 GMT
#21
On March 26 2011 15:25 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Play through the campaign!
It'll help familiarize you with the controls/units. It will lessen frustration. A lot. Not enough


a good idea, but unfortunately iccup install doesn't have campaign, just multiplayer :/

you could just play custom vs computer though, I guess.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
March 27 2011 01:29 GMT
#22
On March 26 2011 14:28 ciaNo wrote:
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On March 26 2011 14:27 One wrote:
Oh, and picking protoss helps.


just like in starcraft 2 :D


Except you only need 2 gates instead of 4 and only zealots.
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
March 27 2011 02:30 GMT
#23
hop directly onto iCCup, get beaten 100 times before taking your first win, get frustated you cant win, search for strategies on liquipedia, try to execute them, complete fail, try again, fail but this time the game lasted longer, try again, you could almost hold him, try again, you now put up a good fight, try again, you know understand the basic timings and the basic reasoning behind the build, try again and win, blog it on TL.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
qzmpwxno
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Papua New Guinea152 Posts
March 27 2011 03:58 GMT
#24
+ Show Spoiler +
hop directly onto iCCup, get beaten 100 times before taking your first win, get frustated you cant win, search for strategies on liquipedia, try to execute them, complete fail, try again, fail but this time the game lasted longer, try again, you could almost hold him, try again, you now put up a good fight, try again, you know understand the basic timings and the basic reasoning behind the build, try again and win, blog it on TL.


EPIC!!
Stand on one block but own the whole street~
Deception-35
Profile Joined February 2011
United States113 Posts
March 27 2011 06:15 GMT
#25
On March 27 2011 12:58 qzmpwxno wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
hop directly onto iCCup, get beaten 100 times before taking your first win, get frustated you cant win, search for strategies on liquipedia, try to execute them, complete fail, try again, fail but this time the game lasted longer, try again, you could almost hold him, try again, you now put up a good fight, try again, you know understand the basic timings and the basic reasoning behind the build, try again and win, blog it on TL.


EPIC!!

lol that motivated me to start playing
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
March 27 2011 06:26 GMT
#26
On March 27 2011 11:30 fabiano wrote:
hop directly onto iCCup, get beaten 100 times before taking your first win, get frustated you cant win, search for strategies on liquipedia, try to execute them, complete fail, try again, fail but this time the game lasted longer, try again, you could almost hold him, try again, you now put up a good fight, try again, you know understand the basic timings and the basic reasoning behind the build, try again and win, blog it on TL.

Lol my first time, i was 0-36, before i went 1-36, and then 1-50.
My stats were cleared and im 0-11 again
☺
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
March 27 2011 07:08 GMT
#27
I just started playing too, as zerg. I started ok (3-5) but then I ran into terran mech like 5 games in row and lost. Where can I order a rage pillow?
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
March 27 2011 09:12 GMT
#28
if you want to pick zerg, ..

Try beating 7 AI on BGH without using the worker-attack-AI-retaliate-early-on Bug.

You'll understand what macro is in a simple and subtle way :D
rawrrawrrawr
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
March 27 2011 12:25 GMT
#29
Lots of games will be needed to get better! My first season i was 10-26 then summer came and i went 76-150 and then next season 25-31 then 26-25 then 27-16 and then never improved since lol
BW -> League -> CSGO
AMaidensWrath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Belgium206 Posts
March 27 2011 13:00 GMT
#30
Here are some encouraging words: Once you're able to stand your ground in iCCup, StarCraft 2 will be much easier. So, just have fun! :3

If you find someone who's on the same level as you, immediately ask him if you two could practice together more often. It's always good to have a training partner.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
March 27 2011 14:35 GMT
#31
Quick someone link the million SCII into BW threads.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
March 27 2011 14:37 GMT
#32
On March 27 2011 16:08 L3gendary wrote:
I just started playing too, as zerg. I started ok (3-5) but then I ran into terran mech like 5 games in row and lost. Where can I order a rage pillow?


Just learn to play against mech, when you get the hang of it it's quite easy against an opponent of similar ability imho.
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
March 27 2011 15:03 GMT
#33
On March 27 2011 10:29 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 14:28 ciaNo wrote:
On March 26 2011 14:27 One wrote:
Oh, and picking protoss helps.


just like in starcraft 2 :D


Except you only need 2 gates instead of 4 and only zealots.


If there is no sexy involved in a 2 gate it will fail unless your opponant is even unsexier. Any non-retard can beat a slacker 2 gate zeal~ Takes pimpin 2 gate zeal to beat gosus~ no auto micro in this game
Nak Allstar.
Natsumar
Profile Joined March 2011
United States91 Posts
March 27 2011 15:08 GMT
#34
So to get campaign I have to go out and actually buy it?
Woah guys, this is where it gets tricky. Because right now we're behind in every conceivable aspect [...] The only thing we're not behind in is micro. Right? We got tons of that shit.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
March 27 2011 15:13 GMT
#35
On March 28 2011 00:08 Natsumar wrote:
So to get campaign I have to go out and actually buy it?


No. I won't go into detail due to legality issues, look it up. The only thing you need an original CD key for is playing on the official Battlenet servers.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
March 27 2011 15:13 GMT
#36
On March 28 2011 00:08 Natsumar wrote:
So to get campaign I have to go out and actually buy it?


ugh yes if you have time you could have save some money to buy the sc battlechest and I can bet you it's dirt cheap and worth your money for you get some interesting booklet which specifies all the necessary information on your units and furthermore you get to play the original SC and Broodwar when you buy the starcraft battlechest in my opinion it's worth getting it rather than using the iccup version of starcraft :D and yes you get to play the campaign and watch all the cinematics being played after each mission accomplishment .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9500 Posts
March 27 2011 21:53 GMT
#37
BW is like 10 bucks. Even an 8 year old could make that with his pimpin lemonade stand!

And it's definitely worth it. You're gonna be telling your grandchildren the story of BW when they ask you what's that archaic game on your shelves granpa.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
March 27 2011 22:03 GMT
#38
On March 28 2011 06:53 2Pacalypse- wrote:
BW is like 10 bucks. Even an 8 year old could make that with his pimpin lemonade stand!

And it's definitely worth it. You're gonna be telling your grandchildren the story of BW when they ask you what's that archaic game on your shelves granpa.

I bet I will be telling my grandchildren how ridiculously easy the games they play are when compared to ancient BW. Heh. "In the good old days, you can't just right-click the auto-smart-harass button for mutalisks..."
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