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Overall this thread includes a lot of historical information o.o;
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This is why i don't follow religion because it just gets to altered by man for their own means. Just live ur life the way you want it and follow whats good if a religion helps you with that follow it but take everything with a grain of salt.
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I kind of agree with this research. I mean, after all, within the Bible we can find two different tales of the creation of the universe (one next to the other believe it or not) and many accounts that Jesus had multiple brothers and sisters (blood related, not followers).
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If you ask me, the scholarship itself is sensationalist and not just the reporting on it. It's a heroic narrative typical of contemporary academia:
Once upon a time, there was gender egalitarianism. Then the men, because of their irrational misogyny, ruined everything and initiated an oppressive and patriarchal hegemony that lasted for thousands of years. Fortunately, modern scholarship now allows us to see through the misunderstandings of our forefathers and undo the great evils that they bequeathed to us.
I'm not even taking issue with the archaeology, either, but I can't really fathom why it's being framed as some doctrine-redefining discovery. The one demographic that this could possibly discomfit would be strict, literal-interpretation inerrantists, which isn't even the most tenable of inerrantist positions, which isn't, in turn, the only religious conviction that can be held on the scriptures.
And I guess that's my problem with both the research and the press on these things. Because they refute the most basic, simplistic, uncritical approaches to scripture, they are taken to destabilize the entire structure of religion. It's like assuming that nutrition is a bunk science simply because the hardline, fat-free diet that some diet gurus used to preach turned out to be a bad approach. It's discrediting a highly elaborate and complex belief system on the grounds that one of its myriad cells is demonstrably wrong. What it ends up doing is impoverishing the dialogue on both sides of the fence.
But on the upside you do get to conceive of yourself as a crusader for truth in an era of self-delusions and you do get to conceive of your opponents as cogs in a machine of lies that has been under laborious construction for several millennia, so I guess there are compensations for throwing disinterested scholarship under the bus.
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I'm also interested to hear this type of thing but lets be honest, a book that old has been through more than one gratuitous edit.
When I learned about it in christian school it was basically solved with "the Bible is God's word, so He won't let man tamper with it", how do we know the Bible is God's word? Well, it claims it is. Talk about circular logic.
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I'm pretty sure that it's already common knowledge that Zeus was married to Hera, what's so new about this?
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On March 24 2011 05:17 carloselcoco wrote:
I kind of agree with this research. I mean, after all, within the Bible we can find two different tales of the creation of the universe (one next to the other believe it or not) and many accounts that Jesus had multiple brothers and sisters (blood related, not followers).
Creation isn't the only story we can find two conflicting accounts of in the Bible.
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What happened to her? Are they divorced now?
oh you mean, in theory, this theoretical being had a wife?
wow.
Breaking News!
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On March 24 2011 05:43 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 05:17 carloselcoco wrote:
I kind of agree with this research. I mean, after all, within the Bible we can find two different tales of the creation of the universe (one next to the other believe it or not) and many accounts that Jesus had multiple brothers and sisters (blood related, not followers). Creation isn't the only story we can find two conflicting accounts of in the Bible.
I was just providing general examples...
In fact, according to the Bible all of us should have been stoned to death. Yes! It is in the Bible!
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Pointless discussion, might wanna start with proof for the existance of a god before trying to show that this being had a wife.
But yes, the fictional character might have had a fictional wife.
Don't really understand what this thread is trying to accomplish.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On March 24 2011 06:46 Nausea wrote:
Pointless discussion, might wanna start with proof for the existance of a god before trying to show that this being had a wife.
But yes, the fictional character might have had a fictional wife.
Don't really understand what this thread is trying to accomplish.
This is about the history of a set of religions, not the truthfulness of their claims. The existence or nonexistence of YHWH is beside the point.
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On March 24 2011 03:12 skypig wrote:
If you just read the Bible you will see that the Jews worshiped tons of other gods, which was why God had to pwn them over and over. I'm not sure why the researcher in the OP's post thinks that "other gods" are such a big deal; if he'd just read the Bible he would see that there was way more than "Asherah" or whatever...lol.
This. The only thing archeological fragments that claim "God had a wife" prove is, that at one point there were people who believed such a thing. Beyond that, it has no meaning whatsoever.
Between the landtaking of Israel under Josua, until the day Israel went into the Babylonian Exile, there was constant warfare between the monotheists in Israel and a polytheist faction who worshipped other deities besides JHWH (which was explicitly forbidden).
As for the debate whether God exists or does not: deep inside everyone knows that he does exists. It's the default setting in every human being. Through education or lack thereof, this default setting gets switched off, the certain knowledge that God exists is diminshed.
For a plethora of reasons, many people actually choose they want nothing to do with God, and pretend that he does not exist. It's some sort of mass psychosis. It is pointless to debate with people like that, they have trapped themselves in their own personal hell and the door is locked from the inside. Whatever floats their boat I guess...life is too short to argue with fools.
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Here we go again. I'm not a religious person by any means, but I think I'm unbiased and educated enough to throw in my two cents here. I'm going to get straight to the point. Seeing these kinds of threads are starting to get annoying because the arguments and criticisms that a thread like this produces is so simple-minded and old that even I myself can counter them on behalf of religion. Actually, I don't even want to waste my time replying to these criticisms, nor would anyone else. My advice is that you guys (at least many of you) should take a break from playing starcraft to read up on theology books (supporting BOTH sides and written by well-respected and reliable authors) if you are actually interested in coming to your own truthful conclusions. Let's be honest. Most people who comment on threads like this in a gaming forum, youtube, etc., are people who probably googled up something like "why christianity sucks" to support their own preconceptions. I mean, hey, I used to do that too. I'm being totally honest right now. Recently, I began to consider myself to be a spiritual person, and I think it's a good change.
tl;dr: Arguing about religion over the internet is a total waste of time, and anyone who is serious about coming to a truthful conclusion about a particular subject would go to the library, bookstore, etc., to do legitimate research.
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On March 24 2011 04:42 Jswizzy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 04:31 kn83 wrote:
The fact that the ancient Jews worshiped many gods is no hidden secret, hell Christians and Jews themselves didn't try to hide this fact at all. Most people don't seem to know ( which many religious scholars point out) that monotheism, polytheism, pantheism and others are purely modern concepts that largely had no meaning to people in ancient/medieval times ( the words themselves were coined by Western Europeans in 17th-18th centuries, with no earlier parallels ). Also, many scholars of today pointed out that the rejection of Asherah (a foreign deity) had mostly to do with the Jews ethnic conflicts with the Canaanites and not with theology (the Jews still had female deities that they still worshiped afterward). Also, Asherah was said to by El's wife, not Yahweh (YHWH, who was considered the absolute, ineffable, beyond any relation, genderless, etc if your in to metaphysics). Yahweh was the center of attention because he's the "essence" of God (hence his "personal" name). Going back to the first point, the many gods and goddess of ancient Israel are in fact the numerous names/attributes of God/YHWH in Orthodox Judaism (one of the names, Elohim, is in fact plural, that's why God refers to himself as "we" in parts of the Bible, he's ALL of the gods, not one among others). When you think about it, its no different from Hinduism ("truth is one, but it is known by many names" says the Rig Veda). In light of all this if you're not a literalist, you could read the 2nd commandment as "don't cling to anything except me". If you were to translate these names in Arabic, you'd get the 99 names of Allah in Islam ( Muslims DO worship the same God, this shouldn't even be a debate). The issue about the Christian trinity is not that Jews and Muslim actually think Christians worship 3 gods (Mormons kind of do though), its a debate over God's essence. The sensationalism around this issue is based on pure feminist crap about Abrahamic religions "suppressing" the feminine (completely ignoring the fact that sexism exist in ALL religions and the whole of human culture in general, see Pandora's Box in Greek Mythology for example). I think that explains everything. I am not really buying the whole Hindu thing. It contradicts the fact that all the Gods found in the Bible even Yahweh existed in the Canaanite pantheon before the formation of Israel. There is no evidence to believe that Yahweh was anything but a local storm God. All the Gods at that period of time were tied to locations and even Yahweh was tied to a mountain.
First of all, no scholar/academic today believes Yahweh/YHWH was a local storm deity in the first place (they already had a storm/sky god named Hadad). Second, that all the deities were in the Canaanite pantheon already is nothing surprising (Jews, Canaanites and Babylonians are all Semitic cultures so of course they have the same deities. Hell, why do you think the Greeks and Romans had the same gods, their both Indo-European cultures). Third, I'm not religious nor anti-religious so this ain't just me speaking my bias interpretation of things, but all your assumptions have pretty much been debunked by historians after at least WWI. You can look this out in any new article on the topic, library or even Wikipedia of all places. Seriously, its just as stupid as the myth about Jesus never existing or the moon god myth about Islam, two other examples of things widely debunked by scholars.
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On March 23 2011 11:49 gongryong wrote:
To be sure, there are plenty of texts out there that are yet to be discovered (similar to the Gnostic gospels on Judas and Magdalene).
All of which could be fiction. It's actually pretty rare that books convey an unbiased truth, I don't see why I would believe in stories.
The argument "because you can't disprove them" evidently useless. Are there other reasons?
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On March 24 2011 08:24 kn83 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 04:42 Jswizzy wrote:On March 24 2011 04:31 kn83 wrote:
The fact that the ancient Jews worshiped many gods is no hidden secret, hell Christians and Jews themselves didn't try to hide this fact at all. Most people don't seem to know ( which many religious scholars point out) that monotheism, polytheism, pantheism and others are purely modern concepts that largely had no meaning to people in ancient/medieval times ( the words themselves were coined by Western Europeans in 17th-18th centuries, with no earlier parallels ). Also, many scholars of today pointed out that the rejection of Asherah (a foreign deity) had mostly to do with the Jews ethnic conflicts with the Canaanites and not with theology (the Jews still had female deities that they still worshiped afterward). Also, Asherah was said to by El's wife, not Yahweh (YHWH, who was considered the absolute, ineffable, beyond any relation, genderless, etc if your in to metaphysics). Yahweh was the center of attention because he's the "essence" of God (hence his "personal" name). Going back to the first point, the many gods and goddess of ancient Israel are in fact the numerous names/attributes of God/YHWH in Orthodox Judaism (one of the names, Elohim, is in fact plural, that's why God refers to himself as "we" in parts of the Bible, he's ALL of the gods, not one among others). When you think about it, its no different from Hinduism ("truth is one, but it is known by many names" says the Rig Veda). In light of all this if you're not a literalist, you could read the 2nd commandment as "don't cling to anything except me". If you were to translate these names in Arabic, you'd get the 99 names of Allah in Islam ( Muslims DO worship the same God, this shouldn't even be a debate). The issue about the Christian trinity is not that Jews and Muslim actually think Christians worship 3 gods (Mormons kind of do though), its a debate over God's essence. The sensationalism around this issue is based on pure feminist crap about Abrahamic religions "suppressing" the feminine (completely ignoring the fact that sexism exist in ALL religions and the whole of human culture in general, see Pandora's Box in Greek Mythology for example). I think that explains everything. I am not really buying the whole Hindu thing. It contradicts the fact that all the Gods found in the Bible even Yahweh existed in the Canaanite pantheon before the formation of Israel. There is no evidence to believe that Yahweh was anything but a local storm God. All the Gods at that period of time were tied to locations and even Yahweh was tied to a mountain. First of all, no scholar/academic today believes Yahweh/YHWH was a local storm deity in the first place (they already had a storm/sky god named Hadad). Second, that all the deities were in the Canaanite pantheon already is nothing surprising (Jews, Canaanites and Babylonians are all Semitic cultures so of course they have the same deities. Hell, why do you think the Greeks and Romans had the same gods, their both Indo-European cultures). Third, I'm not religious nor anti-religious so this ain't just me speaking my bias interpretation of things, but all your assumptions have pretty much been debunked by historians after at least WWI. You can look this out in any new article on the topic, library or even Wikipedia of all places. Seriously, its just as stupid as the myth about Jesus never existing or the moon god myth about Islam, two other examples of things widely debunked by scholars.
I get the impression that there is very little outside of the Bible that even mentions Yahweh, so most of the discussion about where he came from ends up being largely speculation. Here's a recent article by some scholar postulating that he started out as the Canaanite god of metallurgy, of all things.
http://jot.sagepub.com/content/33/4/387.short
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On March 24 2011 08:24 kn83 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 04:42 Jswizzy wrote:On March 24 2011 04:31 kn83 wrote:
The fact that the ancient Jews worshiped many gods is no hidden secret, hell Christians and Jews themselves didn't try to hide this fact at all. Most people don't seem to know ( which many religious scholars point out) that monotheism, polytheism, pantheism and others are purely modern concepts that largely had no meaning to people in ancient/medieval times ( the words themselves were coined by Western Europeans in 17th-18th centuries, with no earlier parallels ). Also, many scholars of today pointed out that the rejection of Asherah (a foreign deity) had mostly to do with the Jews ethnic conflicts with the Canaanites and not with theology (the Jews still had female deities that they still worshiped afterward). Also, Asherah was said to by El's wife, not Yahweh (YHWH, who was considered the absolute, ineffable, beyond any relation, genderless, etc if your in to metaphysics). Yahweh was the center of attention because he's the "essence" of God (hence his "personal" name). Going back to the first point, the many gods and goddess of ancient Israel are in fact the numerous names/attributes of God/YHWH in Orthodox Judaism (one of the names, Elohim, is in fact plural, that's why God refers to himself as "we" in parts of the Bible, he's ALL of the gods, not one among others). When you think about it, its no different from Hinduism ("truth is one, but it is known by many names" says the Rig Veda). In light of all this if you're not a literalist, you could read the 2nd commandment as "don't cling to anything except me". If you were to translate these names in Arabic, you'd get the 99 names of Allah in Islam ( Muslims DO worship the same God, this shouldn't even be a debate). The issue about the Christian trinity is not that Jews and Muslim actually think Christians worship 3 gods (Mormons kind of do though), its a debate over God's essence. The sensationalism around this issue is based on pure feminist crap about Abrahamic religions "suppressing" the feminine (completely ignoring the fact that sexism exist in ALL religions and the whole of human culture in general, see Pandora's Box in Greek Mythology for example). I think that explains everything. I am not really buying the whole Hindu thing. It contradicts the fact that all the Gods found in the Bible even Yahweh existed in the Canaanite pantheon before the formation of Israel. There is no evidence to believe that Yahweh was anything but a local storm God. All the Gods at that period of time were tied to locations and even Yahweh was tied to a mountain. First of all, no scholar/academic today believes Yahweh/YHWH was a local storm deity in the first place (they already had a storm/sky god named Hadad). Second, that all the deities were in the Canaanite pantheon already is nothing surprising (Jews, Canaanites and Babylonians are all Semitic cultures so of course they have the same deities. Hell, why do you think the Greeks and Romans had the same gods, their both Indo-European cultures). Third, I'm not religious nor anti-religious so this ain't just me speaking my bias interpretation of things, but all your assumptions have pretty much been debunked by historians after at least WWI. You can look this out in any new article on the topic, library or even Wikipedia of all places. Seriously, its just as stupid as the myth about Jesus never existing or the moon god myth about Islam, two other examples of things widely debunked by scholars.
Oh really?
The cult of Yahweh predates the gradual development of monolatry and monotheism in the Kingdom of Judah.[97] Theophoric names, names of local gods similar to Yahweh, and archaeological evidence are used along with the Biblical source texts to build theories regarding pre-Israel origins of Yahweh worship, the relationship of Yahweh with local gods, and the manner in which polytheistic worship of Yahweh worship evolved into Jewish monotheism.[98] For example, one source presents Yahweh as the name of a god in ancient Semitic religion, in origin a storm god both related to and in direct competition with Hadad (Baal).[99] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh
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On March 24 2011 08:24 kn83 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 04:42 Jswizzy wrote:On March 24 2011 04:31 kn83 wrote:
The fact that the ancient Jews worshiped many gods is no hidden secret, hell Christians and Jews themselves didn't try to hide this fact at all. Most people don't seem to know ( which many religious scholars point out) that monotheism, polytheism, pantheism and others are purely modern concepts that largely had no meaning to people in ancient/medieval times ( the words themselves were coined by Western Europeans in 17th-18th centuries, with no earlier parallels ). Also, many scholars of today pointed out that the rejection of Asherah (a foreign deity) had mostly to do with the Jews ethnic conflicts with the Canaanites and not with theology (the Jews still had female deities that they still worshiped afterward). Also, Asherah was said to by El's wife, not Yahweh (YHWH, who was considered the absolute, ineffable, beyond any relation, genderless, etc if your in to metaphysics). Yahweh was the center of attention because he's the "essence" of God (hence his "personal" name). Going back to the first point, the many gods and goddess of ancient Israel are in fact the numerous names/attributes of God/YHWH in Orthodox Judaism (one of the names, Elohim, is in fact plural, that's why God refers to himself as "we" in parts of the Bible, he's ALL of the gods, not one among others). When you think about it, its no different from Hinduism ("truth is one, but it is known by many names" says the Rig Veda). In light of all this if you're not a literalist, you could read the 2nd commandment as "don't cling to anything except me". If you were to translate these names in Arabic, you'd get the 99 names of Allah in Islam ( Muslims DO worship the same God, this shouldn't even be a debate). The issue about the Christian trinity is not that Jews and Muslim actually think Christians worship 3 gods (Mormons kind of do though), its a debate over God's essence. The sensationalism around this issue is based on pure feminist crap about Abrahamic religions "suppressing" the feminine (completely ignoring the fact that sexism exist in ALL religions and the whole of human culture in general, see Pandora's Box in Greek Mythology for example). I think that explains everything. I am not really buying the whole Hindu thing. It contradicts the fact that all the Gods found in the Bible even Yahweh existed in the Canaanite pantheon before the formation of Israel. There is no evidence to believe that Yahweh was anything but a local storm God. All the Gods at that period of time were tied to locations and even Yahweh was tied to a mountain. First of all, no scholar/academic today believes Yahweh/YHWH was a local storm deity in the first place (they already had a storm/sky god named Hadad). Second, that all the deities were in the Canaanite pantheon already is nothing surprising (Jews, Canaanites and Babylonians are all Semitic cultures so of course they have the same deities. Hell, why do you think the Greeks and Romans had the same gods, their both Indo-European cultures). Third, I'm not religious nor anti-religious so this ain't just me speaking my bias interpretation of things, but all your assumptions have pretty much been debunked by historians after at least WWI. You can look this out in any new article on the topic, library or even Wikipedia of all places. Seriously, its just as stupid as the myth about Jesus never existing or the moon god myth about Islam, two other examples of things widely debunked by scholars.
Where's a good place to find out more about the debunking of 'myth' that Jesus didn't exist? Sounds interesting! I always thought that there wasn't a solid reason to think that Christ existed, so how can the 'myth' that he didn't be debunked?
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On March 24 2011 08:52 wadadde wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 08:24 kn83 wrote:On March 24 2011 04:42 Jswizzy wrote:On March 24 2011 04:31 kn83 wrote:
The fact that the ancient Jews worshiped many gods is no hidden secret, hell Christians and Jews themselves didn't try to hide this fact at all. Most people don't seem to know ( which many religious scholars point out) that monotheism, polytheism, pantheism and others are purely modern concepts that largely had no meaning to people in ancient/medieval times ( the words themselves were coined by Western Europeans in 17th-18th centuries, with no earlier parallels ). Also, many scholars of today pointed out that the rejection of Asherah (a foreign deity) had mostly to do with the Jews ethnic conflicts with the Canaanites and not with theology (the Jews still had female deities that they still worshiped afterward). Also, Asherah was said to by El's wife, not Yahweh (YHWH, who was considered the absolute, ineffable, beyond any relation, genderless, etc if your in to metaphysics). Yahweh was the center of attention because he's the "essence" of God (hence his "personal" name). Going back to the first point, the many gods and goddess of ancient Israel are in fact the numerous names/attributes of God/YHWH in Orthodox Judaism (one of the names, Elohim, is in fact plural, that's why God refers to himself as "we" in parts of the Bible, he's ALL of the gods, not one among others). When you think about it, its no different from Hinduism ("truth is one, but it is known by many names" says the Rig Veda). In light of all this if you're not a literalist, you could read the 2nd commandment as "don't cling to anything except me". If you were to translate these names in Arabic, you'd get the 99 names of Allah in Islam ( Muslims DO worship the same God, this shouldn't even be a debate). The issue about the Christian trinity is not that Jews and Muslim actually think Christians worship 3 gods (Mormons kind of do though), its a debate over God's essence. The sensationalism around this issue is based on pure feminist crap about Abrahamic religions "suppressing" the feminine (completely ignoring the fact that sexism exist in ALL religions and the whole of human culture in general, see Pandora's Box in Greek Mythology for example). I think that explains everything. I am not really buying the whole Hindu thing. It contradicts the fact that all the Gods found in the Bible even Yahweh existed in the Canaanite pantheon before the formation of Israel. There is no evidence to believe that Yahweh was anything but a local storm God. All the Gods at that period of time were tied to locations and even Yahweh was tied to a mountain. First of all, no scholar/academic today believes Yahweh/YHWH was a local storm deity in the first place (they already had a storm/sky god named Hadad). Second, that all the deities were in the Canaanite pantheon already is nothing surprising (Jews, Canaanites and Babylonians are all Semitic cultures so of course they have the same deities. Hell, why do you think the Greeks and Romans had the same gods, their both Indo-European cultures). Third, I'm not religious nor anti-religious so this ain't just me speaking my bias interpretation of things, but all your assumptions have pretty much been debunked by historians after at least WWI. You can look this out in any new article on the topic, library or even Wikipedia of all places. Seriously, its just as stupid as the myth about Jesus never existing or the moon god myth about Islam, two other examples of things widely debunked by scholars. Where's a good place to find out more about the debunking of 'myth' that Jesus didn't exist? Sounds interesting! I always thought that there wasn't a solid reason to think that Christ existed, so how can the 'myth' that he didn't be debunked?
Jesus probably did exist but there is no historical evidence to support that he did. The first historian to write about him was Josephus who was born after Jesus had already died and the account is considered a forgery by modern scholars. Although John the Baptist has plenty of historical evidence backing him up and I think there was a legitimate mention of "James the brother of Jesus who was called Christ" at about 90 ad. Anyways if the gospel of Matthew was true I would think that the Romans would of wrote about all the Zombies/Ghost? and earthquakes described in Matthew 27:52-53 I mean Pliny the Elder wrote about Manticores so why he not write about that event?
try http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=94;t=000913;p=0
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On March 24 2011 08:52 wadadde wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 08:24 kn83 wrote:On March 24 2011 04:42 Jswizzy wrote:On March 24 2011 04:31 kn83 wrote:
The fact that the ancient Jews worshiped many gods is no hidden secret, hell Christians and Jews themselves didn't try to hide this fact at all. Most people don't seem to know ( which many religious scholars point out) that monotheism, polytheism, pantheism and others are purely modern concepts that largely had no meaning to people in ancient/medieval times ( the words themselves were coined by Western Europeans in 17th-18th centuries, with no earlier parallels ). Also, many scholars of today pointed out that the rejection of Asherah (a foreign deity) had mostly to do with the Jews ethnic conflicts with the Canaanites and not with theology (the Jews still had female deities that they still worshiped afterward). Also, Asherah was said to by El's wife, not Yahweh (YHWH, who was considered the absolute, ineffable, beyond any relation, genderless, etc if your in to metaphysics). Yahweh was the center of attention because he's the "essence" of God (hence his "personal" name). Going back to the first point, the many gods and goddess of ancient Israel are in fact the numerous names/attributes of God/YHWH in Orthodox Judaism (one of the names, Elohim, is in fact plural, that's why God refers to himself as "we" in parts of the Bible, he's ALL of the gods, not one among others). When you think about it, its no different from Hinduism ("truth is one, but it is known by many names" says the Rig Veda). In light of all this if you're not a literalist, you could read the 2nd commandment as "don't cling to anything except me". If you were to translate these names in Arabic, you'd get the 99 names of Allah in Islam ( Muslims DO worship the same God, this shouldn't even be a debate). The issue about the Christian trinity is not that Jews and Muslim actually think Christians worship 3 gods (Mormons kind of do though), its a debate over God's essence. The sensationalism around this issue is based on pure feminist crap about Abrahamic religions "suppressing" the feminine (completely ignoring the fact that sexism exist in ALL religions and the whole of human culture in general, see Pandora's Box in Greek Mythology for example). I think that explains everything. I am not really buying the whole Hindu thing. It contradicts the fact that all the Gods found in the Bible even Yahweh existed in the Canaanite pantheon before the formation of Israel. There is no evidence to believe that Yahweh was anything but a local storm God. All the Gods at that period of time were tied to locations and even Yahweh was tied to a mountain. First of all, no scholar/academic today believes Yahweh/YHWH was a local storm deity in the first place (they already had a storm/sky god named Hadad). Second, that all the deities were in the Canaanite pantheon already is nothing surprising (Jews, Canaanites and Babylonians are all Semitic cultures so of course they have the same deities. Hell, why do you think the Greeks and Romans had the same gods, their both Indo-European cultures). Third, I'm not religious nor anti-religious so this ain't just me speaking my bias interpretation of things, but all your assumptions have pretty much been debunked by historians after at least WWI. You can look this out in any new article on the topic, library or even Wikipedia of all places. Seriously, its just as stupid as the myth about Jesus never existing or the moon god myth about Islam, two other examples of things widely debunked by scholars. Where's a good place to find out more about the debunking of 'myth' that Jesus didn't exist? Sounds interesting! I always thought that there wasn't a solid reason to think that Christ existed, so how can the 'myth' that he didn't be debunked?
Yes, please answer this. I was interested in this subject a while ago and came to a conclusion that debate is still up in the air.
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