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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 02 2011 05:25 GMT
#101
To be honest, I found the sight jaw-dropping and odd/strange, similar to: "Omg, why the hell would you do that".

But I don't have this sense of vengeance or the need to incarcerate the man. I think 3-month jail is over the top and not productive. Community service for 3 months sounds better to me including animal shelter help and such.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
March 02 2011 05:27 GMT
#102
Well that's a little fucked. A lot of you need to actually read the article. Or at least skim it. The Animal was a mascot for the opposing team. He was a dick. I saw the ball and I thought "Wow, shitty accident." Then the dick goes and kicks the bird. To anyone who says an ass beating for him is extreme, your an asshole. If anyone treated my dog like that they would get hurt, and bad. The same applies to the owl.

I guess I am not the end all be all on moral judgment, but I do heart animals. I'd probably ban him from soccer. Jail time seems fine to me to. There is no reason to be so cruel. Well maybe not the soccer ban, after he serves his jail time he can do whatever he wants. There is no reason to ban him from a career path, jail time should be enough.
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Avaloch
Profile Joined August 2010
241 Posts
March 02 2011 05:27 GMT
#103
On March 02 2011 14:25 Torte de Lini wrote:
But I don't have this sense of vengeance or the need to incarcerate the man. I think 3-month jail is over the top and not productive. Community service for 3 months sounds better to me including animal shelter help and such.

If he kicked the helpless owl like that, what makes you think he won't do something twisted to animals in a shelter? I'd rather keep him locked in a jail, safely away from anything animal.
thehorsebecomesking
Profile Joined February 2011
189 Posts
March 02 2011 05:27 GMT
#104
On March 02 2011 14:22 iPood wrote:
The conversation in this thread is astounding lol. He didn't "toss" the bird off the field with his foot. He punted that thing 10+ feet. I am amazed at some of the stupid comments in this thread.


People that play soccer already stated this was a flip, yet someone like you comes in raging without actually knowing anything. If I wanted to kill a bird I would kick it and you would see feathers flying everywhere.
Letall
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden384 Posts
March 02 2011 05:28 GMT
#105
This behaviour isnt very suprising, I read about these sociopathic fotball players breaking the law every weak. If its not animal cruelty its, physical abuse or rape, it just seams that the sport attracts these types of people.
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Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
March 02 2011 05:29 GMT
#106
On March 02 2011 14:23 uSnAmplified wrote:
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On March 02 2011 14:15 Velocirapture wrote:
It always upsets me when people write off things by saying "this is so small compared to other things that happen in the world". Yes, awful things happen all the time but wrong is still wrong. If you were to extend the logic of a lot of forum posters here we would have to wait for an event worse than the holocaust to actually be upset about something.
The problem is how people throw total disregard to things like i dont, know human life being taken and try to champion the idea that animals dieing is a more important thing worry about.

Man shot and killed, oh well, but oh god an owl was kicked, stop the presses. its a completely relevant argument considering the astounding amount of stupid double standards put up in this thread. Post was made about the same exact league a player shot and killed someone and got away with it after dropping some bills, and it was completely ignored.

Owl dies, we get posts like this, ridiculous.

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On March 02 2011 14:22 Mjolnir wrote:

Jail, absolutely.

Piece of shit. I fucking hate the callous superiority some people feel toward animals.

Stick that tool in jail, let him know what it's like to be pounded on by something bigger.






I have no problem with keeping things in perspective. Saying tone it down is fine, but saying people's concern is childish and naive is not. Believing that he should have been more careful with an injured animal than to kick it to the side is not some outlandish point of view, in fact it is likely the most rational one.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
March 02 2011 05:30 GMT
#107
In the giant scheme of the things in the world it might not be that bad but I don't think the player was thinking of the consequences or the controversy that would arise when he did that. Such a beautiful owl too.
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thehorsebecomesking
Profile Joined February 2011
189 Posts
March 02 2011 05:30 GMT
#108
On March 02 2011 14:28 Letall wrote:
This behaviour isnt very suprising, I read about these sociopathic fotball players breaking the law every weak. If its not animal cruelty its, physical abuse or rape, it just seams that the sport attracts these types of people.


Made me sirl, thanks. Tbh I am really worried about being raped by a soccer player so I can relate to your concerns here.
bubO
Profile Joined August 2010
United States367 Posts
March 02 2011 05:32 GMT
#109
On March 02 2011 13:19 Signet wrote:
His lame excuse will probably make things worse for him. Saying something to the effect of "sorry, I got frustrated and used poor judgment" would have been better.

Sending him to jail seems extreme... a fine would be more appropriate imo.


Meh i think he deserves it... i hate people who mistreat animals just not right he should get expelled from the soccer leauge

thats just my opinion though xD
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Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
March 02 2011 05:33 GMT
#110
People are overreacting way to much over this, makes me sad. It was the wrong thing to do but 3 months of jail is overkill.
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tbrown47
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1235 Posts
March 02 2011 05:36 GMT
#111
Wow... totally caught me off guard. I was like oh he kicked an owl... wtf?? Then I saw the video and was like oh, he kicked a ball at the owl and it hit it... way to blow it out of proportion

then a guy just walked up and kicked the owl and TOTALLY caught me off guard...
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 02 2011 05:38 GMT
#112
Three month jail time is stupid. There are better ways to handle this.
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Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
March 02 2011 05:40 GMT
#113
There is nothing remotely mitigating about the circumstances surrounding this. Maximum jail term and lifelong expulsion from the team. Period.

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Gerbeeros
Profile Joined May 2010
101 Posts
March 02 2011 05:42 GMT
#114
I wouldnt mind him getting some jail time or fines from this but not expelling from soccer, football is very physical sport where you get lot of adrenaline in your blood and it is possible he used more force than his intentions were.
But on the other hand i think its likely he just might have vented his frustration to the animal and thats pretty fucked up.
thehorsebecomesking
Profile Joined February 2011
189 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 05:43:29
March 02 2011 05:42 GMT
#115
On March 02 2011 14:40 Dhalphir wrote:
There is nothing remotely mitigating about the circumstances surrounding this. Maximum jail term and lifelong expulsion from the team. Period.



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Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 05:47:03
March 02 2011 05:43 GMT
#116
It honestly does seem like he was trying to wake up the animal. Really not trolling here. The kick didn't look brutal at all, but it looked like he DID kick it a bit too hard.

edit: I just watched the video again and clearly you can see that he pushed the owl with his foot. By the way what the fuck was that owl doing there anyway? Why didn't anyone move it? -_-
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Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
March 02 2011 05:45 GMT
#117
Also to those wondering why people get so angry about this compared to a human being killed, it is that this is just senseless violence. There is no reason behind it.

When a person is killed, there is usually a reason for it. he startled a burglar, or attempted to stop a robbery, or the criminal just wanted to take something from him and killed him to do it. Its rare that a human kills another human for no real reason, and when it does happen (serial killers, psychopaths) we get just as upset.

Human brains don't cope well with things we don't understand, and cruelty to helpless animals is one of those things that is just not possible to understand the reasoning behind.

Recently in Australia (I say recently but it was more likely a couple of years) a group of youths captured and burned alive a young kitten. The cat survived, and in a rare case of justice being done appropriately, all of the youths received hefty detention sentences and their parents were billed for the (high) medical costs associated with saving the cat.

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esla_sol
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States756 Posts
March 02 2011 05:46 GMT
#118
he didnt kick the animal. he scooped it away with his foot. perfectly resonable, i wouldnt want to touch it either, who knows what it could be carrying, considering it looked about dead on the pitch.

and even if he did kick it, with all of his might, 3 months of jail? are you kidding me? its an animal...
lachy89
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia264 Posts
March 02 2011 05:47 GMT
#119
On March 02 2011 14:28 Letall wrote:
This behaviour isnt very suprising, I read about these sociopathic fotball players breaking the law every weak. If its not animal cruelty its, physical abuse or rape, it just seams that the sport attracts these types of people.


This sportsman vilification isn't entirely justified. Yes there are sportsmen that do horrific things, but there are people from every occupation that do it also. The reason that it appears to be more sportsmen is because they are in the spotlight and reading or hearing news about them is interesting. This would not be a story if some random mechanic kicked an owl and kicked it in his yard.

That being said the act was stupid and the soccer player would obviously be sincerely regretting his actions by now. 3 Months prison is too much, but a severe fine or suspension would be justified.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6638 Posts
March 02 2011 05:48 GMT
#120
I gotta admit, I lol'd.

Don't see what the big deal is though, only an owl.
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