But I don't have this sense of vengeance or the need to incarcerate the man. I think 3-month jail is over the top and not productive. Community service for 3 months sounds better to me including animal shelter help and such.
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
But I don't have this sense of vengeance or the need to incarcerate the man. I think 3-month jail is over the top and not productive. Community service for 3 months sounds better to me including animal shelter help and such. | ||
RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
I guess I am not the end all be all on moral judgment, but I do heart animals. I'd probably ban him from soccer. Jail time seems fine to me to. There is no reason to be so cruel. Well maybe not the soccer ban, after he serves his jail time he can do whatever he wants. There is no reason to ban him from a career path, jail time should be enough. | ||
Avaloch
241 Posts
On March 02 2011 14:25 Torte de Lini wrote: But I don't have this sense of vengeance or the need to incarcerate the man. I think 3-month jail is over the top and not productive. Community service for 3 months sounds better to me including animal shelter help and such. If he kicked the helpless owl like that, what makes you think he won't do something twisted to animals in a shelter? I'd rather keep him locked in a jail, safely away from anything animal. | ||
thehorsebecomesking
189 Posts
On March 02 2011 14:22 iPood wrote: The conversation in this thread is astounding lol. He didn't "toss" the bird off the field with his foot. He punted that thing 10+ feet. I am amazed at some of the stupid comments in this thread. People that play soccer already stated this was a flip, yet someone like you comes in raging without actually knowing anything. If I wanted to kill a bird I would kick it and you would see feathers flying everywhere. | ||
Letall
Sweden384 Posts
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
On March 02 2011 14:23 uSnAmplified wrote: The problem is how people throw total disregard to things like i dont, know human life being taken and try to champion the idea that animals dieing is a more important thing worry about. Man shot and killed, oh well, but oh god an owl was kicked, stop the presses. its a completely relevant argument considering the astounding amount of stupid double standards put up in this thread. Post was made about the same exact league a player shot and killed someone and got away with it after dropping some bills, and it was completely ignored. Owl dies, we get posts like this, ridiculous. I have no problem with keeping things in perspective. Saying tone it down is fine, but saying people's concern is childish and naive is not. Believing that he should have been more careful with an injured animal than to kick it to the side is not some outlandish point of view, in fact it is likely the most rational one. | ||
MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
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thehorsebecomesking
189 Posts
On March 02 2011 14:28 Letall wrote: This behaviour isnt very suprising, I read about these sociopathic fotball players breaking the law every weak. If its not animal cruelty its, physical abuse or rape, it just seams that the sport attracts these types of people. Made me sirl, thanks. Tbh I am really worried about being raped by a soccer player so I can relate to your concerns here. | ||
bubO
United States367 Posts
On March 02 2011 13:19 Signet wrote: His lame excuse will probably make things worse for him. Saying something to the effect of "sorry, I got frustrated and used poor judgment" would have been better. Sending him to jail seems extreme... a fine would be more appropriate imo. Meh i think he deserves it... i hate people who mistreat animals just not right he should get expelled from the soccer leauge thats just my opinion though xD | ||
Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
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tbrown47
United States1235 Posts
then a guy just walked up and kicked the owl and TOTALLY caught me off guard... | ||
Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
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Gerbeeros
101 Posts
But on the other hand i think its likely he just might have vented his frustration to the animal and thats pretty fucked up. | ||
thehorsebecomesking
189 Posts
On March 02 2011 14:40 Dhalphir wrote: There is nothing remotely mitigating about the circumstances surrounding this. Maximum jail term and lifelong expulsion from the team. Period. + Show Spoiler + | ||
Sephy90
United States1785 Posts
edit: I just watched the video again and clearly you can see that he pushed the owl with his foot. By the way what the fuck was that owl doing there anyway? Why didn't anyone move it? -_- | ||
Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
When a person is killed, there is usually a reason for it. he startled a burglar, or attempted to stop a robbery, or the criminal just wanted to take something from him and killed him to do it. Its rare that a human kills another human for no real reason, and when it does happen (serial killers, psychopaths) we get just as upset. Human brains don't cope well with things we don't understand, and cruelty to helpless animals is one of those things that is just not possible to understand the reasoning behind. Recently in Australia (I say recently but it was more likely a couple of years) a group of youths captured and burned alive a young kitten. The cat survived, and in a rare case of justice being done appropriately, all of the youths received hefty detention sentences and their parents were billed for the (high) medical costs associated with saving the cat. | ||
esla_sol
United States756 Posts
and even if he did kick it, with all of his might, 3 months of jail? are you kidding me? its an animal... | ||
lachy89
Australia264 Posts
On March 02 2011 14:28 Letall wrote: This behaviour isnt very suprising, I read about these sociopathic fotball players breaking the law every weak. If its not animal cruelty its, physical abuse or rape, it just seams that the sport attracts these types of people. This sportsman vilification isn't entirely justified. Yes there are sportsmen that do horrific things, but there are people from every occupation that do it also. The reason that it appears to be more sportsmen is because they are in the spotlight and reading or hearing news about them is interesting. This would not be a story if some random mechanic kicked an owl and kicked it in his yard. That being said the act was stupid and the soccer player would obviously be sincerely regretting his actions by now. 3 Months prison is too much, but a severe fine or suspension would be justified. | ||
jello_biafra
United Kingdom6632 Posts
Don't see what the big deal is though, only an owl. | ||
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