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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 14:27:07
February 21 2011 10:10 GMT
#1
So judging by the LR thread lotsa ppl have a problem with her voice.

it kept me from enjoying and even listening to her at all. now how to turn her very high pitch voice into a normal girl voice:


gomplayer under audio -> audio settings set your equalizer to something like that


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point is tuning down the high frequences.play around with it to find your setting.


now i can listen fine ,understand all she says and actually give her a chance instead of beeing scared away instantly :>


/edit i dont want to bash on her in anyway. her voice was very uncomfortable for me and others, be it because of her or goms audio settings at the studio. this fixed it for me and i just wanted to help the people that felt the same way.



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LoCaD
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 10:16:07
February 21 2011 10:15 GMT
#2
approved worked saved my GSL.
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Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
February 21 2011 10:16 GMT
#3
I couldn't tell if you were trolling or not, so I actually tried this and it didn't do anything :/
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
February 21 2011 10:17 GMT
#4
This works great. Her voice wasn't bothering me much, but I'm liking this anyway.
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tgun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
434 Posts
February 21 2011 10:17 GMT
#5
Your name is awesome and your blog is awesome.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
February 21 2011 10:19 GMT
#6
On February 21 2011 19:16 Sayle wrote:
I couldn't tell if you were trolling or not, so I actually tried this and it didn't do anything :/


enabled the equalizer? :>
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eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
February 21 2011 10:24 GMT
#7
ROFL, that's genius. I was also bothered by the high frequency. Maybe it's cause it's so early in the morning....
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ste0731
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom435 Posts
February 21 2011 10:30 GMT
#8
Is there noway to just mute her? :/ This will do for now, nice find.
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
February 21 2011 10:32 GMT
#9
On February 21 2011 19:19 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 19:16 Sayle wrote:
I couldn't tell if you were trolling or not, so I actually tried this and it didn't do anything :/


enabled the equalizer? :>


Well, you need to have the "Enable" box checked to even move the sliders. I also have "Use equalizer" checked in the audio settings. I don't hear any difference though :/
AzurewinD
Profile Joined November 2010
United States569 Posts
February 21 2011 10:33 GMT
#10
This is excellent. Thanks for the tip. Much much better.
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onlinerobbe
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany547 Posts
February 21 2011 10:38 GMT
#11
you're watching sc2 sayle O.O?
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BasilPesto
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia624 Posts
February 21 2011 10:39 GMT
#12
Is there anyway one could apply autotune?
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
February 21 2011 11:00 GMT
#13
You sir are a hero
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
February 21 2011 11:10 GMT
#14
It's a bit better but not that much. Still, all the little things help.
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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
February 21 2011 11:18 GMT
#15
hahaha wow

i can't believe u guys went this far XD
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Herpadurr
Profile Joined January 2011
Monaco151 Posts
February 21 2011 11:30 GMT
#16
It's not as much her voice as it's the fact that she doesn't seem to know what she's talking about.
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Arccotangent
Profile Joined October 2010
519 Posts
February 21 2011 11:36 GMT
#17
Wow, kinda amused by this find; gj though.
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MiraKul
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Malaysia498 Posts
February 21 2011 13:44 GMT
#18
When she casted SMM (big DotA tourney) last year, everyone complained that she moaned too much rofl. Me no likey her cast though... like Herpadurr said ^ she doesnt really ahve a clue on what she's talking about sometimes. =\
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 21 2011 13:46 GMT
#19
this is so insanely rude to somebody you guys knows reads the forums.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 21 2011 13:47 GMT
#20
On February 21 2011 22:46 ZlaSHeR wrote:
this is so insanely rude to somebody you guys knows reads the forums.

Um it's a legitimate fix for a legitimate issue... are you saying people should be silent about high pitch? It's not even as if she should take offense, it's just a natural aspect of her voice for which some people would like a workaround.
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gods_basement
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States305 Posts
February 21 2011 14:02 GMT
#21
On February 21 2011 22:47 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 22:46 ZlaSHeR wrote:
this is so insanely rude to somebody you guys knows reads the forums.

Um it's a legitimate fix for a legitimate issue... are you saying people should be silent about high pitch? It's not even as if she should take offense, it's just a natural aspect of her voice for which some people would like a workaround.


I agree, this is probably the most constructive post about Milkies' casting ability or voice that i've seen. Its the only one that doesnt say "i have a problem," or "i dont have a problem and neither should you"
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 14:12:14
February 21 2011 14:10 GMT
#22
On February 21 2011 22:46 ZlaSHeR wrote:
this is so insanely rude to somebody you guys knows reads the forums.


agree with the 2 guys.


i want to give her a chance and infact it was quite decent after i changed this settings.


it literally made my ears feel bad. i had to put down me headset evry few minutes to relax . its not her fault and others might be fine with it. but it was very uncomfortable for me and made it hard to understand what she said at times.


so i got a problem with her voice and isntead of bitching i fixed it myself and happily watched the stream from then on. i posted this since judging from the comments others felt the same way. dont think thats rude in any way.




btw thx for the positive comments <3
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 21 2011 14:12 GMT
#23
Becuase all it becomes is a bunch of people who, if they didn't read all these threads about kelly, wouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon. You guys would have just listened to the casts, and a much smaller percentage of people would be bitching about it.

These are the same thousands of people who tune in to watch Destiny orgasm when he gets a couple of baneling mines off and trolling about, you're trying to tell me that all of them would have had a legitimate concern from the get go? thats just not going to be the case.

You guys are bashing somebodys voice, thats one hell of a low blow to just constantly go after something that is a part of the person. What do you mean she shouldn't take offense? If this shit were about you and you read 20+ people saying LOL THIS IS SUCH A GREAT FIX LOOOL TY, that you wouldn't take offense to that? The amount of backseat driving that goes on in these threads about kelly is getting to be pretty obscene.
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FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
February 21 2011 14:14 GMT
#24
Gotta try this out next time. Today was actually the first time I considered turning off the stream and trying to find a Korean one. Not only because of the pitch but hopefully this will help at least a little.
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
February 21 2011 14:23 GMT
#25
On February 21 2011 23:12 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Becuase all it becomes is a bunch of people who, if they didn't read all these threads about kelly, wouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon. You guys would have just listened to the casts, and a much smaller percentage of people would be bitching about it.

These are the same thousands of people who tune in to watch Destiny orgasm when he gets a couple of baneling mines off and trolling about, you're trying to tell me that all of them would have had a legitimate concern from the get go? thats just not going to be the case.

You guys are bashing somebodys voice, thats one hell of a low blow to just constantly go after something that is a part of the person. What do you mean she shouldn't take offense? If this shit were about you and you read 20+ people saying LOL THIS IS SUCH A GREAT FIX LOOOL TY, that you wouldn't take offense to that? The amount of backseat driving that goes on in these threads about kelly is getting to be pretty obscene.



i still dont see your problem.


im not bashing on her in any way. her voice ,be it cause of goms audio settings in the studio or the voice itself , is not comfortable for some people.

now instead of judging her on how her voice sounds(which for me atleast made it harder to understand her, was completly fine after i changed this) , bitching or muting i fix what my problem was and will judge her based on her ability as a caster.

and is i said i think she did ok and i actually see quite some potential in the dynamics between her and tastosis.



ofcourse its not nice to read that people dont like how you sound. but if you are a caster you have to expect some critics(look at all the shit tastosis got so far). and if you are worried about her how about talking abouit it in all the countless pages of totally random and unconstructive QQ instead of here where i just want to cut out one potential problem so people can happily watch code A and judge her by her skills and not her voice.if anything this helps her


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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 21 2011 14:24 GMT
#26
I don't get why you wouldn't be allowed to criticise someone for their voice when they are working with their voice.

Mindless bashing is one thing, this wasn't anywhere close to that.
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
February 21 2011 14:28 GMT
#27
On February 21 2011 23:12 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Becuase all it becomes is a bunch of people who, if they didn't read all these threads about kelly, wouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon. You guys would have just listened to the casts, and a much smaller percentage of people would be bitching about it.

These are the same thousands of people who tune in to watch Destiny orgasm when he gets a couple of baneling mines off and trolling about, you're trying to tell me that all of them would have had a legitimate concern from the get go? thats just not going to be the case.

You guys are bashing somebodys voice, thats one hell of a low blow to just constantly go after something that is a part of the person. What do you mean she shouldn't take offense? If this shit were about you and you read 20+ people saying LOL THIS IS SUCH A GREAT FIX LOOOL TY, that you wouldn't take offense to that? The amount of backseat driving that goes on in these threads about kelly is getting to be pretty obscene.

People did have this legitimate concern from the getgo, from as soon as she was announced as a Gom caster people said she was an awful choice.

It was my first time hearing her, and probably so for the majority of people since she apparently only casts SEA events. I wasn't going to assume she was good or bad, and as it happens she's bad.

I don't think thrusting her up on the main stage was the right thing to do. People are obviously going to be apprehensive about a person they haven't heard cast going from obscurity to a GSL caster.

If more people knew about her, say from casting craftcups and shit like that, do you think the masses would all be chanting her name when it was announced that Gom wanted new Code A casters?
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
February 21 2011 14:42 GMT
#28
Sigh......
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love.less
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom293 Posts
February 21 2011 15:14 GMT
#29
wow such an awful thing to suggest=[ people are way overreacting about her voice and i hope shit like this doesnt get her down if she reads it

your entitled ot your opinion of course but i dont see what your trying to do posting something that is pretty much a personal attack on the girl
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
February 21 2011 15:21 GMT
#30
On February 22 2011 00:14 love.less wrote:
wow such an awful thing to suggest=[ people are way overreacting about her voice and i hope shit like this doesnt get her down if she reads it

your entitled ot your opinion of course but i dont see what your trying to do posting something that is pretty much a personal attack on the girl

It's her job. She gets paid for her voice. If it sucks, people will complain. I don't understand the problem. If people were making fun/criticizing her about anything else, it definitely wouldn't be okay especially because she reads the forums. But it's not personal, it's business. And besides, this thread isn't meant to be about criticism but about fixing the high pitch which can be problematic.

People criticize Tasteless and Artosis all the time. Were you there on the threads defending them, saying that because they read the forums, we shouldn't criticize them? If not, I think there's a problem.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32089 Posts
February 21 2011 15:21 GMT
#31
On February 21 2011 23:12 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Becuase all it becomes is a bunch of people who, if they didn't read all these threads about kelly, wouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon.


no, all that did was speed up how fast people realized that she's quite hard to understand. you're seriously gonna tell me that if it was never announced and she just casted, people wouldn't have instantly hopped online and been like what the hell is this shit??

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Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
February 21 2011 15:23 GMT
#32
This is along the same lines as posting a thread about how to black out someone's face because you find them too ugly and saying it is a legitimate problem that needs to be fixed. Extremely disrespectful.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 15:28:01
February 21 2011 15:27 GMT
#33
On February 22 2011 00:21 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 23:12 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Becuase all it becomes is a bunch of people who, if they didn't read all these threads about kelly, wouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon.


no, all that did was speed up how fast people realized that she's quite hard to understand. you're seriously gonna tell me that if it was never announced and she just casted, people wouldn't have instantly hopped online and been like what the hell is this shit??




It's the same premise of one person taking a shit on someone and everyone following suit. Want an example?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7265836

Hawk, I respect that you've been on here longer than me but this is just human psychology. One person says something, everyone else jumps the fuck on it. I'm not saying 100% of people wouldn't have said anything but I'll bet you a lot less say it if threads like these don't spawn in the first place.

I too, think that kelly can be hard to understand for a lot of non-native english speakers, that doesn't mean that the right to shit on something that is a part of her should be in fair form. One person says a certain someone looks like a chipmunk, next thing you know 10 people jump on it and start divulging from that. You know what I'm talking about. It's the same shit every single time on these threads.

On February 22 2011 00:23 Bambipwnsu wrote:
This is along the same lines as posting a thread about how to black out someone's face because you find them too ugly and saying it is a legitimate problem that needs to be fixed. Extremely disrespectful.


I agree. As a friend of mine puts it, its like something thats straight out of Mean Girls.
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
February 21 2011 15:34 GMT
#34
On February 22 2011 00:14 love.less wrote:
wow such an awful thing to suggest=[ people are way overreacting about her voice and i hope shit like this doesnt get her down if she reads it

your entitled ot your opinion of course but i dont see what your trying to do posting something that is pretty much a personal attack on the girl


I personally have nothing against her as an individual which is what you seem to be implying. My irritation was one that was entirely physical. I have rather sensitive ears so something that is high pitched was actually uncomfortable to me to listen to through no fault of her own. I am very happy that this was posted so I can comfortably watch and enjoy the GSL now.

I see no problem with only trying to improve everyone's overall comfort level. I knew if I was a caster and my voice did something that bothered people that was fixable by manipulating audio settings I'd announce it while I was casting lol. Some people seem more inclined to take things like this OP the wrong way.

I really do think he was just trying to help and I'm glad he did.
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garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
February 21 2011 15:34 GMT
#35
On February 22 2011 00:23 Bambipwnsu wrote:
This is along the same lines as posting a thread about how to black out someone's face because you find them too ugly and saying it is a legitimate problem that needs to be fixed. Extremely disrespectful.

That would be true if they were a professional being paid for their facial appearance. That is partially the case if you are doing some sort of presentation on screen. I certainly would not want to be watching an ugly person on screen trying to relay information to me.

I agree that this is somewhat rude and offensive, but she is a professional. She should be able to handle it. I don't understand why people think that everyone should be able to do what they want to do. Every job and title has a restriction. I certainly wouldn't be a professional singer, because my voice is terrible. If I thought otherwise and made a CD people are bound to criticize it, then I have two choices: a) realize I'm deluding myself into thinking I actually have a decent voice and stop singing, or b) ignore the critics and keep doing what I like to do (hypothetically).

Besides, what's more offensive, doing what is suggested by this thread or muting her cast? I think the latter would be also offensive to Tasteless/Artosis. Or how about a third option? How about we don't watch at all and possibly get her fired?
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
February 21 2011 15:51 GMT
#36
this is both funny and actually helpful. Personally I think kelly is a great caster, but this will take the edge off for people who are bothered by the pitch. bravo, sir.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32089 Posts
February 21 2011 15:51 GMT
#37
On February 22 2011 00:27 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 00:21 Hawk wrote:
On February 21 2011 23:12 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Becuase all it becomes is a bunch of people who, if they didn't read all these threads about kelly, wouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon.


no, all that did was speed up how fast people realized that she's quite hard to understand. you're seriously gonna tell me that if it was never announced and she just casted, people wouldn't have instantly hopped online and been like what the hell is this shit??




It's the same premise of one person taking a shit on someone and everyone following suit. Want an example?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7265836

Hawk, I respect that you've been on here longer than me but this is just human psychology. One person says something, everyone else jumps the fuck on it. I'm not saying 100% of people wouldn't have said anything but I'll bet you a lot less say it if threads like these don't spawn in the first place.

I too, think that kelly can be hard to understand for a lot of non-native english speakers, that doesn't mean that the right to shit on something that is a part of her should be in fair form. One person says a certain someone looks like a chipmunk, next thing you know 10 people jump on it and start divulging from that. You know what I'm talking about. It's the same shit every single time on these threads.

Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 00:23 Bambipwnsu wrote:
This is along the same lines as posting a thread about how to black out someone's face because you find them too ugly and saying it is a legitimate problem that needs to be fixed. Extremely disrespectful.


I agree. As a friend of mine puts it, its like something thats straight out of Mean Girls.


of course there's some bandwagoning involved, people love drama. this has nothing to do with how low my e-wang hangs.

I think you're out of your mind if there wouldn't be similar outrage if there was no announcement and the event just took place with her casting. You even admit that the caster—a person paid for the sole purpose of verbally describing the action and interpreting it for the masses—is quite difficult to understand.

Most of the criticism was fair and focused on her voice. There was, of course, a few uninspired back to the kitchen comments and stuff, but the focus was on her inability to speak english properly and supposedly her lack of knowledge (which i admittedly know nothing about so I pass on that)

and peanut is well known as a giant attention whore and that blog was dumb as shit, so it's probably not the best example of unmerited bandwagoning.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 21 2011 15:56 GMT
#38
I'm not saying 100% of everyone HATES her or anything but all threads like these do is plant the seed which manifests into unecessary ill-will towards someone who's just trying to do her best. Yes it might be hard to watch at first but come on, just enjoy the games and if it bothers you THAT much then mute it, turn on some music you enjoy, but don't start up so many threads because the more that exist the more hatred that just goes floating about this community, its just not productive for TL =\
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
February 21 2011 15:57 GMT
#39
On February 22 2011 00:23 Bambipwnsu wrote:
This is along the same lines as posting a thread about how to black out someone's face because you find them too ugly and saying it is a legitimate problem that needs to be fixed. Extremely disrespectful.

If the ugly person was hired as an attractive model then that analogy would work. I don't find the OP disrespectful at all, he's found a workaround that allows him to listen to her casting instead of simply muting.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 21 2011 15:58 GMT
#40
On February 22 2011 00:51 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 00:27 ZlaSHeR wrote:
On February 22 2011 00:21 Hawk wrote:
On February 21 2011 23:12 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Becuase all it becomes is a bunch of people who, if they didn't read all these threads about kelly, wouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon.


no, all that did was speed up how fast people realized that she's quite hard to understand. you're seriously gonna tell me that if it was never announced and she just casted, people wouldn't have instantly hopped online and been like what the hell is this shit??




It's the same premise of one person taking a shit on someone and everyone following suit. Want an example?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7265836

Hawk, I respect that you've been on here longer than me but this is just human psychology. One person says something, everyone else jumps the fuck on it. I'm not saying 100% of people wouldn't have said anything but I'll bet you a lot less say it if threads like these don't spawn in the first place.

I too, think that kelly can be hard to understand for a lot of non-native english speakers, that doesn't mean that the right to shit on something that is a part of her should be in fair form. One person says a certain someone looks like a chipmunk, next thing you know 10 people jump on it and start divulging from that. You know what I'm talking about. It's the same shit every single time on these threads.

On February 22 2011 00:23 Bambipwnsu wrote:
This is along the same lines as posting a thread about how to black out someone's face because you find them too ugly and saying it is a legitimate problem that needs to be fixed. Extremely disrespectful.


I agree. As a friend of mine puts it, its like something thats straight out of Mean Girls.


of course there's some bandwagoning involved, people love drama. this has nothing to do with how low my e-wang hangs.

I think you're out of your mind if there wouldn't be similar outrage if there was no announcement and the event just took place with her casting. You even admit that the caster—a person paid for the sole purpose of verbally describing the action and interpreting it for the masses—is quite difficult to understand.

Most of the criticism was fair and focused on her voice. There was, of course, a few uninspired back to the kitchen comments and stuff, but the focus was on her inability to speak english properly and supposedly her lack of knowledge (which i admittedly know nothing about so I pass on that)

and peanut is well known as a giant attention whore and that blog was dumb as shit, so it's probably not the best example of unmerited bandwagoning.


Yeah, I mean posts that are constructive, to me, are things saying THIS is how you can improve and make it more enjoyable but when everyone says the same thing "WOW her voice is so annoying, what is she talking about, i can' tunderstand her, she sucks at this stuff, blah blah" you hear that 200 times and it becomes no more helpful.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 21 2011 16:02 GMT
#41
Basically, I'm saying that for 98% of the posts about her, you can't actually take anything constructive out of them, the ones you can have already been stated before so if anythign she could improve on whats been said before but repeating it own't help.

Tasteless used to be a regular on teamliquid as far as my knowledge allows me to know, you will NEVER see him reply to any posts like these, even Artosis doesn't reply to comments anymore, only posts here when its a new thread of a video of his or something related to that.

The most constructive thing I can tell kelly is that she needs to stop posting on TL or on the sc2sea community site. There is no point in verbally responding to any of the posts, if theres something she wants to take from it she can do so but replying isn't necessary, as we've learned from all the major casters.
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VampireLady
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands283 Posts
February 21 2011 16:07 GMT
#42
Thankyou germanese guy
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32089 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 16:12:56
February 21 2011 16:08 GMT
#43
On February 22 2011 00:56 ZlaSHeR wrote:
I'm not saying 100% of everyone HATES her or anything but all threads like these do is plant the seed which manifests into unecessary ill-will towards someone who's just trying to do her best. Yes it might be hard to watch at first but come on, just enjoy the games and if it bothers you THAT much then mute it, turn on some music you enjoy, but don't start up so many threads because the more that exist the more hatred that just goes floating about this community, its just not productive for TL =\


trying your best is all that is asked for amateurs and volunteers. The bar's a little higher when it's a big ass company putting out a product that's inferior because one of it's employees isn't up to snuff.

Even if it were a 100% volunteer thing, constructive criticism, which is what 90% of what this stuff is, is completely necessary if there's any interest in improving the product.

I'm really not sure what you are getting at still. Do you feel this is some kind of anti Asian/women thing? The consumer doesn't always have a right to voice his/her opinion if other people have already been discussing it?? The only way things change is if people bitch in large numbers.

I still don't get why as a consumer, you feel it's ok to accept a product you acknowledge as being inferior because you can't understand her.

On February 22 2011 01:02 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Basically, I'm saying that for 98% of the posts about her, you can't actually take anything constructive out of them, the ones you can have already been stated before so if anythign she could improve on whats been said before but repeating it own't help.


What really needs to be said other than I can't understand her clearly?

I'm assuming you posted after I did, but repeating it lets the company know that it's a major issue with viewers and it removes her. The goal isn't to make her a better commentator. She's been casting for however long and it's not gonna magically change for this event.
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eight.BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States240 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 16:13:25
February 21 2011 16:11 GMT
#44
Is no one else finding it amusing that people are mad that we would dare mess with an equalizer for a stream we pay for? Thank you so much for this!

Do you get mad when people up the bass on Windows Media Player, too?

EDIT: Just noticed this is even a blog and you're being attacked, sigh.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
February 21 2011 16:13 GMT
#45
On February 22 2011 01:11 eight.BiT wrote:
Is no one else finding it amusing that people are mad that we would dare mess with an equalizer for a stream we pay for? Thank you so much for this!

Do you get mad when people up the bass on Windows Media Player, too?


Or when people try to filter out the sound of vuvuzelas in the World Cup
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 16:18:56
February 21 2011 16:13 GMT
#46
On February 22 2011 00:58 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 00:51 Hawk wrote:
On February 22 2011 00:27 ZlaSHeR wrote:
On February 22 2011 00:21 Hawk wrote:
On February 21 2011 23:12 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Becuase all it becomes is a bunch of people who, if they didn't read all these threads about kelly, wouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon.


no, all that did was speed up how fast people realized that she's quite hard to understand. you're seriously gonna tell me that if it was never announced and she just casted, people wouldn't have instantly hopped online and been like what the hell is this shit??




It's the same premise of one person taking a shit on someone and everyone following suit. Want an example?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7265836

Hawk, I respect that you've been on here longer than me but this is just human psychology. One person says something, everyone else jumps the fuck on it. I'm not saying 100% of people wouldn't have said anything but I'll bet you a lot less say it if threads like these don't spawn in the first place.

I too, think that kelly can be hard to understand for a lot of non-native english speakers, that doesn't mean that the right to shit on something that is a part of her should be in fair form. One person says a certain someone looks like a chipmunk, next thing you know 10 people jump on it and start divulging from that. You know what I'm talking about. It's the same shit every single time on these threads.

On February 22 2011 00:23 Bambipwnsu wrote:
This is along the same lines as posting a thread about how to black out someone's face because you find them too ugly and saying it is a legitimate problem that needs to be fixed. Extremely disrespectful.


I agree. As a friend of mine puts it, its like something thats straight out of Mean Girls.


of course there's some bandwagoning involved, people love drama. this has nothing to do with how low my e-wang hangs.

I think you're out of your mind if there wouldn't be similar outrage if there was no announcement and the event just took place with her casting. You even admit that the caster—a person paid for the sole purpose of verbally describing the action and interpreting it for the masses—is quite difficult to understand.

Most of the criticism was fair and focused on her voice. There was, of course, a few uninspired back to the kitchen comments and stuff, but the focus was on her inability to speak english properly and supposedly her lack of knowledge (which i admittedly know nothing about so I pass on that)

and peanut is well known as a giant attention whore and that blog was dumb as shit, so it's probably not the best example of unmerited bandwagoning.


Yeah, I mean posts that are constructive, to me, are things saying THIS is how you can improve and make it more enjoyable but when everyone says the same thing "WOW her voice is so annoying, what is she talking about, i can' tunderstand her, she sucks at this stuff, blah blah" you hear that 200 times and it becomes no more helpful.

When the ultimate goal of these kinds of posters are to get kelly replaced by someone they can understand, their posts are arguably constructive in trying to get her replaced. I mean, no amount of constructive critiquing will take away her accent; the general approach to "fixing" that is to make enough ruckus to get her replaced. Do you have a better alternative?

EDIT: And in the case of this thread in particular, there are posters who have expressed both appreciation for Kelly's insight and for the method outlined in this thread, as her voice is still an issue. Again, what exactly is wrong with this?

EDIT2: If you're contending the job of the TL posters is to make an environment where everybody, including Kelly, feels warm and fuzzy and liked, then that is a personal view of yours; your view of what TL should be seems to be a minority view.
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Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
February 21 2011 16:16 GMT
#47
On February 22 2011 01:02 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Basically, I'm saying that for 98% of the posts about her, you can't actually take anything constructive out of them, the ones you can have already been stated before so if anythign she could improve on whats been said before but repeating it own't help.


While I generally agree with what you're saying, one thing the repetition does is show the magnitude of the problem. Taking away that unhelpful 98% of posts would certainly make the threads more palatable. However, GOM might just look at that and think "oh it's just a few people who don't like it, no big deal". The massive amount of negative posts is what shows that it IS a problem.
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
February 21 2011 16:32 GMT
#48
If you don't like something, if something doesn't sound good to your ears, then it doesn't sound good to your ears, I don't really understand how to explain it better. Like do you know that some people live by heavy metal and some people only listen to country music? Some sounds can soothe peoples ears and some can disrupt their whole body.

If equalizing her voice a bit makes your ears hurt less then why all the rage? Why be offended? Not everyone is made perfect.

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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 16:40:18
February 21 2011 16:36 GMT
#49
On February 21 2011 23:12 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Becuase all it becomes is a bunch of people who, if they didn't read all these threads about kelly, wouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon. You guys would have just listened to the casts, and a much smaller percentage of people would be bitching about it.

These are the same thousands of people who tune in to watch Destiny orgasm when he gets a couple of baneling mines off and trolling about, you're trying to tell me that all of them would have had a legitimate concern from the get go? thats just not going to be the case.

You guys are bashing somebodys voice, thats one hell of a low blow to just constantly go after something that is a part of the person. What do you mean she shouldn't take offense? If this shit were about you and you read 20+ people saying LOL THIS IS SUCH A GREAT FIX LOOOL TY, that you wouldn't take offense to that? The amount of backseat driving that goes on in these threads about kelly is getting to be pretty obscene.



Hey ever watch American Idol? Not everyone has a "singing voice". As a matter of fact, some people have terrible voices, yet people try out anyway. If her voice makes it difficult to enjoy the cast than she doest have a "casting voice".

I do not have any opinion on her since Ive never heard her cast. My point is, that if people dont enjoy her voice than so what? I can think of many different casters who I dont enjoy listening too. Personally I dont like HD, or the glhf.tv guys. But thats my opinion. And If paying customers dont like something, rather than unsubscribing, choose to make a change.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
February 21 2011 16:44 GMT
#50
This thread is inappropriate, even if you are trying to "help".
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