[R] What do you think of it? Platinum League - Page 3

On October 13 2010 18:01 Endorsed wrote:
Pro in diamond league? Man, when you get in Diamond league you are just starting.

On October 13 2010 18:13 mOnion wrote:
i personally feel that platinum is better than diamond cuz the metagame is faster

Getting to Diamond/Plat is like climbing a mountain and seeing that you are near the top. You are pretty happy with your self that you've made it this far and it feels like an accomplishment, but then the next day the fog clears revealing the mountain is three times as big as you thought it was and becomes increasingly harder to climb the further you go up.

If you keep playing and are on TL platinum league is just a blink of time in your life, maybe 3-4 days.

On October 13 2010 21:24 shannn wrote:
Platinum was the highest league(in beta) now the 2nd highest but there are so many sc2 players compared to beta that the level in diamond is so bad unless you reach 2000+ (at the time of writing) which you would be decent.
Most people have the idea of Diamond is the highest league so that means if you reach Diamond means you're good which is such an illusion.
There are about 750k active bnet users on sc2(?) which lowers the bar to reach Diamond severely.
Unless you place good in high level tournaments don't think you're good.

On October 13 2010 19:15 Deadlyfish wrote:
Diamond just means you have mastered the basics, and now it's time to explore the rest of the game. Up until diamond all you're doing is just making units, and keeping money low. That's all you need. You could get to diamond making only Carriers, or only marines, it doesnt matter as long as you keep your money low and keep making drones. I'm only like 1300 diamond and i am terrible at the game. I will get supply blocked and forget important upgrades. So will 2k rated players.

It's always funny how people with theorycraft for hours and find new strategies, when they're still in gold/bronze. Because at those levels, it doesnt matter, at all.

Then again, diamond players are still pretty bad. It will be a few years before anyone will actually be good at the game (non pros). 1800 diamond still means you make a ton of mistakes, and probably get supply blocked alot.

But there is still a big jump from platinum to diamond.

Bronze players are really really bad, and probably never play the game. silver - platinum players are pretty similar, i can rarely tell them apart.

On October 13 2010 21:32 Deadlyfish wrote:


I hate this term "good", what does it mean? Diamond is top 5%, some would consider that good. Gold is better than average, isnt that good?

Placing high in a tournament doesnt mean you're good, it just means you're better than everyone else, but you could still be terrible? Unless you define good as "better than the rest" but then diamond would be good aswell.

Platinum players arent bad, they are better than gold, worse than diamond. Diamond players are better than players in every other league. I'd say that being better than 95% of everyone else is quite good. If it isnt then i dont see how anyone could be good. Good

On October 13 2010 21:44 Champ24 wrote:
I find it amazing that the common consensus here is that unless you are 1400+ diamond you are bad at this game.

1400+ is about the top 0.5% of all players. That is ridiculously hard to crack! Starcraft takes a lot of games to learn. The diversity all off 3 races openings and what you need to do to beat it takes a very long time to learn. Even the dudes who play this game for a living have barely scratched the surface on its complexity.

If you have made diamond you have a very solid understanding of the basics...and in my opinion you have really gotten down 1 base play. Which at this point in the metagame is good. But you also have a LONG ways to go. Every once in a while I get a 1v1 vs a guy who has about 500 points in diamond And like 45 games under their belt with a 65%+ win percentage. More often than not, I steamroll them. I'll watch a replay and they have a solid 1 base build order, but they get lost after that since at the lower levels the game is decided on that very first push and they don't learn how to progress. It takes time. It doesn't mean he sucks, he just hasn't gone swimming in those waters before.

Point being, you don't "suck" if you aren't 1400 diamond, you just have a lot to learn before you hit a point in the ladder where a deep understanding of game mechanics and timings are required to win. Until then, learn the units and basic build orders (yes, plural. 4 gate and proxy reapers every game will only get you so far). You will need those tools as you progress.