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Spartan
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2030 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 19:25:24
July 07 2010 19:24 GMT
#1
During phase 1 there was a call for players to name their account ESPORTS in response to Blizzard's stupid move of removing the identifier part of an account. Now they've added back identifiers, except they're even more retarded than the original.

To recap, if I make an account Spartan I will be assigned a random 3 (apparently no less and no more) digit letter to distinguish my self from other Spartans.

So what happens if there's already 999 Spartans and a 1000th person wants to be Spartan, too? Logic would say that any inactive Spartans would get deleted. Now there's 2 ways of measuring inactivity.

Method 1 would be like the current system Blizzard uses on Battle.net where any account not logged into for over 3 months is deleted. The problem there is.. what if you have 999 active Spartans? Does the 1000th player get 4 digits? Presumably yes, but now the number system just looks progressively uglier, lengthier, and harder to remember. Is "Spartan.3438" easier to remember than "Spartan.nk" or "Spartan.warrior"?

Method 2 would be to delete the least active player out of the 999. Now, what if that player is active, but just not as much as the other 998? Does he deserve to lose his name?

So going back to method 1 a little.. we all already know how retarded this number system is so I won't dive into it too much... at this point with the random number system Blizzard is taking away what little customization and uniqueness players have online on Battle.net. The fun part of the identifiers was that players could use it to group themselves in teams, clans, friends, and so forth. The whole point of the identifier system is for uniqueness and for easy friend adding. Sure, remembering 3 numbers can't be that hard (or can it?), but so is remembering one word that a person can sound out loud in their head (we all know that's much easier to remember than a random number).

It seems to me that Blizzard might as well go the full step since they're halfway there and just give everyone a random 8 digit string of numbers instead of letting them choose a name to go by. Hey, 33741341, want to play 2v2 with me and 13416341?

Anyhow, are we going to lash out against Blizzard again and name all our accounts ESPORTS, or even something new and more related, like REALID?

Poll: Would you name your account ESPORTS or REALID for phase 2?

No. (224)
 
87%

Yes. (34)
 
13%

258 total votes

Your vote: Would you name your account ESPORTS or REALID for phase 2?

(Vote): Yes.
(Vote): No.



Edit: Changed the poll.
# http://nkspartan.com (web engineer)
# TL member since July 2005; CEO of Vile Gaming; President of Team Vile
nemahsys
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada457 Posts
July 07 2010 19:26 GMT
#2
these name changing protests are ridiculous. blizz has stated several times that they dont care if they have 100,000 people with the same name. why do people keep making these threads?
DJ Wheat, if you read this, plz get Lo3 back on itunes stat!
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
July 07 2010 19:27 GMT
#3
i dont think it will work... especially in beta.
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 19:33:16
July 07 2010 19:28 GMT
#4
theres more than 1000 combinations for a 4 digit number

EDIT: nvm its 3 digits im dumb >_<
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
July 07 2010 19:28 GMT
#5
Video games are cool or whatev but you're a petulant child if you are actually angry irl about a video game naming system.
Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 19:29:05
July 07 2010 19:28 GMT
#6
I'm pretty sure it wouldn't delete older accounts, and would instead just block the name "spartan" after they ran out of digits..
But yeah since it's only beta I might use the name ESPORTS for kicks.
ReVolt.inm
Profile Joined July 2010
34 Posts
July 07 2010 19:28 GMT
#7
play the game, never mind the rest, imo.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 07 2010 19:28 GMT
#8
Didn't we have over 1000 people saying they would do it?

I'm doing it for the hilarity. I don't see why the f not.
Valatus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 19:29:36
July 07 2010 19:29 GMT
#9
They will just add 1 more digit available, making it worse.
If a cluttered desk is that sign of a cluttered mind, then what does an empty desk mean? -Albert Einstein
Galleon.frigate
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada721 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 19:30:57
July 07 2010 19:29 GMT
#10
well it's a simple way of showing solidarity amoung the community


It's the SC2 equiv of a pink ribbon or something similar. And it's a good watermark. If people are not upset enough to give up their name for a few weeks of beta then well... they are not just that upset.

If they are.. well maybe blizz need to pay attention.





And look.... no matter what they say... OF COURSE they are going to take notice if they see 10,000 people with the same name.



All that said. I'm happy overall. Far from perfect but I'm content
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
July 07 2010 19:29 GMT
#11
Your poll makes no sense.
( ・´ー・`)
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
July 07 2010 19:29 GMT
#12
On July 08 2010 04:28 R0YAL wrote:
theres more than 1000 combinations for a 4 digit number

They said they are doing 3 digits

And lol if everyone do the same nick, it would break that 3 digit system easily. (Run out of numbers)
G4MR | I mod day9, djwheat and GLHF's stream
lund
Profile Joined March 2008
United States13 Posts
July 07 2010 19:30 GMT
#13
Long-winded answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
tuigim
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
July 07 2010 19:30 GMT
#14
I would have done it when there were no visible identifiers at all. I think the current system is acceptable (at least among all the other clusterfucks on bnet2.0).
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
July 07 2010 19:31 GMT
#15
They'll just add letters to the 3 digit ID and then you'll neeed 46000 people.
Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
Silu
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland165 Posts
July 07 2010 19:31 GMT
#16
On July 08 2010 04:24 Spartan wrote:
So what happens if there's already 999 Spartans and a 1000th person wants to be Spartan, too? Logic would say that any inactive Spartans would get deleted.


Logic, eh? What kind of backwards twisted logic is that? If there are too many Spartans, you just 1) can't make another 2) it gets 4 digits. Blizzard won't go about deleting accounts willy-nilly.

Besides everyone knows there can only be 300 Spartans.
PaterSin
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany301 Posts
July 07 2010 19:31 GMT
#17
is it so much better to have some one named Spartan14521 than Spartan.14521?
this way we will at least have a little less 1337naming thingy
En Taro Tassadar
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
July 07 2010 19:32 GMT
#18
On July 08 2010 04:29 Merikh wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 08 2010 04:28 R0YAL wrote:
theres more than 1000 combinations for a 4 digit number

They said they are doing 3 digits


And lol if everyone do the same nick, it would break that 3 digit system easily. (Run out of numbers)

oh my b, i thought it was 4 digit...
i think this system is pretty pathetic but oh well it still works i guess.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Deadlift
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States358 Posts
July 07 2010 19:32 GMT
#19
IMO it would send a much stronger message if everyone chose the name "Fail".

ESPORTS just sounds lame.
Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 19:33:29
July 07 2010 19:32 GMT
#20
hahahah they're giving everyone classic "noob"names ?

now I don't even have to come up with my own variation of sh@dowk1ller3442, bnet will just do it for me.

now they just have to add random colors and titles to the names and it's good.
ESV Mapmaking!
Lite.wasalreadytaken
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada42 Posts
July 07 2010 19:32 GMT
#21
You are way too presumptuous.
Petitions don't work, and this type of nonsense is clearly going to be less effective than a petition.
Be glad that they are not using your full name and address as a unique identifier.
"A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire
Andavari
Profile Joined July 2010
Egypt18 Posts
July 07 2010 19:32 GMT
#22
This is going to make a point how? They arent going to change it, heh just drop it if you know what is good for you lol. If we did do this and I worked for blizzard I would just revoke the rights to the Beta from all those who tried to do this, so its not the best idea in my opinion lol. Then again im not running blizzard ;D
“True wisdom is less presuming than folly. The wise man doubteth often, and changeth his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubteth not; he knoweth all things but his own ignorance.” - Akhenaton (King of Egypt, 14th century BC)
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
July 07 2010 19:34 GMT
#23
No, most of the stuff we were aiming for initially has been done. If we now start again with ESPORTS, it will be connected to the old goals and thus look stupid.
About the real ID thing: A point has already been made, I don't think naming ourselves REALID has as much impact as "we know which school your children are attending".
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
July 07 2010 19:34 GMT
#24
nope, dont care. Things seem to be all fine and good currently. Maybe a roach buff. I personally just wont post on the blizzard forums as TL is better anyways.
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
July 07 2010 19:34 GMT
#25
With the reasonable responses given by Blizzard to most of the concerns regarding the game, it would be better to wait and see how their fixes pan out.

The only real reason to go for same name would be in a protest against the revealation of personal identifiable information on their forums in case of you posting. However that is of less concern to ingame issues and would honestly imo. be an overreaction.
Repeat before me
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
July 07 2010 19:36 GMT
#26
They should make it so your name is nick.phone so like my phone number is 01-1-616-555-6786 and my nick for the beta is KimTaeGoon, thus my new ID becomes KimTaeGoon.016165556786 and if someone BMs me or something I can call them up and talk about it.
Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
junemermaid
Profile Joined September 2006
United States981 Posts
July 07 2010 19:36 GMT
#27
No. This "protest" is the dumbest thing ever. Worst conception and implementation of an idea.
the UMP says YER OUT
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10708 Posts
July 07 2010 19:36 GMT
#28
thanks for another pointless thread
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Sluggy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States128 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 19:37:40
July 07 2010 19:37 GMT
#29
I might name myself ESPORTS just because the thought of mass people with that name is funny; I wouldn't be protesting anything. Most of the complaints are contrived whiny overreactions.
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
July 07 2010 19:46 GMT
#30
Maybe we should try KITTENS instead.
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
Lite.wasalreadytaken
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada42 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 20:15:40
July 07 2010 19:56 GMT
#31
I hope Blizzard makes some good decisions.
"A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 07 2010 19:59 GMT
#32
I dont' see why they dont' just let identifiers back in. I see no problem with that system. People get the name they want while still being somewhat unique. This numbers thing is just retarded.
skaeve
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark66 Posts
July 07 2010 20:26 GMT
#33
I think you should read the first thread about the "ESPORTS-nick" again and why people did it.

It wasn't because of the lack of identifiers, it was because Blizzard didn't adress or respond to the (very valid) concerns from the community at that time (including identifiers) - and how hard it would be to get SC2 a place in esports and arranging tournaments etc. All those issues have now been adressed, so I'm not gonna name myself ESPORTS like I did in the end of phase 1.
cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
July 07 2010 20:28 GMT
#34
Haven't done it, and never will.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
July 07 2010 20:35 GMT
#35
This is a lame attempt at starting a protest I think. This will not change anything, and anyone with the name ESPORTS will look like someone who just whines even when you get what you wanted.

We got our prestige and pride in our name back with indentifiers coming back. Can't use the same trick for getting everything, it will just look stupid and pointless.
@Munck
FC.Strike
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States621 Posts
July 07 2010 20:40 GMT
#36
@OP your arguments are weak at best.

The identifier was never meant to be something which you used to express your individuality. Its only purpose was to differentiate two people with the same name if those two people ever happened to cross paths. In the box where you made your identifier, the game even told you that you'd rarely see the identifier - if you never see it, it's working as intended.

Since some people were misusing the identifier by doing things like putting their real name, or stealing names in an obnoxious way (something like taking IdrA.IdrA right off the bat), they figured that they'd just automate the entire process by adding a three digit identifier.

I for one see nothing wrong with a system like this.
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
July 07 2010 20:43 GMT
#37
I invented ESPORTS. It's stupid.
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