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http://www.gamona.de/games/activision-blizzard,blizzards-bashiok-ist-erstes-opfer-der-real-id:news,1769743.html
Rough translation/summary:
In order to defend the new Real-ID feature for BNet 2.0, community manager Bashiok posted his real name on the SC2 forums. Within minutes users were able to get information not only on his CV, but his telephone number, address, age and preferences as well. In addition, they were able to publish his wifes name, that of his cohabitants and the name of his childrens school.
To top it of they found a picture of his house via Google Street View.
Bashiok has already canceled his twitter account.
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This is why you do not anger the hive mind.
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This is irony at its best
However the link does not work for me.
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lolz i bet mr. bashiok feels superb about this ;P
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Damn.... Atleast that showed Blizzard that the Real-ID feature is a bad thing.
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Oh my god, thats terrible... both blizzard and the people who screwed Bashik over.
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Link doesnt work for me either
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i guess this is all done to prove something? these people are despicable.
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On July 07 2010 22:28 Sadistx wrote:
This is why you do not anger the hive mind.
^
This. Ten thousand times this.
This change is like hitting a wasp nest with a baseball bat.
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On July 07 2010 22:29 danl9rm wrote:
i guess this is all done to prove something? these people are despicable.
Why, because they proved how wrong he was?
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Feel really bad for bashiok... He's just a forum moderator and i doubt he had anything to do with the decision, really sucks that he was the one the community used to 'prove a point'...
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Ouch, if this is real then it's one of the funniest backfire moments I've heard about.
edit: actually after seeing that forum post, I wouldn't call this a backfire at all, he wasn't really trying to prove anything.
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On July 07 2010 22:26 nyshak wrote:http://www.gamona.de/games/activision-blizzard,blizzards-bashiok-ist-erstes-opfer-der-real-id:news,1769743.htmlRough Translation/summary: In order to defend the new Real-ID feature for BNet 2.0 community manager Bashiok posted his real name on the SC2 forums. Within minutes users were able to get information not only on his CV, but his telephone number, address, age, preferences as well. In addition they were able to publish his wifes name, that of his cohabitants and the name of his childrens school. To top it of they found a picture of his house via Google Street View. Bashiok has already canceled his twitter account.
THIS THREAD DELIVERS!
GG
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Lol, well, perhaps they will stop it now?
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On July 07 2010 22:30 cromat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 22:29 danl9rm wrote:
i guess this is all done to prove something? these people are despicable. Why, because they proved how wrong he was?
The harassment did 2 things.
1) It proved that you could easily find a person's personal information given their name
2) It proves that people can and WILL use that personal information to harass others.
It proves exactly why Real ID is such a terrible idea. I feel sorry for the guy but he kind of put himself up for slaughter with this one.
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He responded when people started posting the info in the main WoW thread for it.
"I should point out that showing a real first and last name doesn't provide any one the right to then seek out additional information on that name and post it here. That has been and will continue to be a violation of the forum code of conduct, and so bans and what have you are incoming. Fair warning."
Raged hard.
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Think some people are misinterpreting Bashiok.
He posted his name onto the forums to try and PROVE that no one could figure out his personal info. At least that's what I figured out from reading the OP.
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On July 07 2010 22:29 Philip2110 wrote:
Link doesnt work for me either
Works for me.
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Is this real? Is there anyway to confirm this.
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지지요~~~~ 수고!
this says ggyo~~~~ sugo
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The link dont work for me.
But i truly belive that is true.
Welcome to the INTERNET...
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Yeah he disabled his twitter and facebook.
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On July 07 2010 22:33 Vedic wrote:He responded when people started posting the info in the main WoW thread for it. Show nested quote +"I should point out that showing a real first and last name doesn't provide any one the right to then seek out additional information on that name and post it here. That has been and will continue to be a violation of the forum code of conduct, and so bans and what have you are incoming. Fair warning." Raged hard.
Yeah, quite idiotic. It doesn't matter if the code of conduct says you can't, people are going to outside of your precious little forum. I can't believe he/they are still trying to defend this.
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On July 07 2010 22:33 Vedic wrote:He responded when people started posting the info in the main WoW thread for it. Show nested quote +"I should point out that showing a real first and last name doesn't provide any one the right to then seek out additional information on that name and post it here. That has been and will continue to be a violation of the forum code of conduct, and so bans and what have you are incoming. Fair warning." Raged hard.
No he's just telling the truth, only immature little pricks feel like they have to harass someone because they suddenly found out his real name. Normal people just see that it's his real name and say: oh.
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AHAHAHAHA I kind of feel bad for bashiok wich is a great CM but really that was a dickmove from him trying to defend this ridiculous idea and he got what he deserved
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I think you'd have to be pretty naive to give your name out and expect no one to be able to find anything out about you. I think the point Bashiok was making was that it doesn't matter.
Ok people now know his real name (it was never hidden before) and found his Twitter, Facebook, etc.. now what happens? Nothing.
Blue posters real names will be shown when they post just like anyone else, they are not shocked about this, it's not a revelation.
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More info on the subject (this time in english for your reading pleasure):
*removed link*
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On July 07 2010 22:35 Shirolol wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 22:33 Vedic wrote:He responded when people started posting the info in the main WoW thread for it. "I should point out that showing a real first and last name doesn't provide any one the right to then seek out additional information on that name and post it here. That has been and will continue to be a violation of the forum code of conduct, and so bans and what have you are incoming. Fair warning." Raged hard. No he's just telling the truth, only immature little pricks feel like they have to harass someone because they suddenly found out his real name. Normal people just see that it's his real name and say: oh.
Yes, and they WILL do so. They make up a large portion of internet users - most especially WoW players. The whole point is to show how badly the system WILL be abused. Not might, WILL.
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On July 07 2010 22:35 Shirolol wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 22:33 Vedic wrote:He responded when people started posting the info in the main WoW thread for it. "I should point out that showing a real first and last name doesn't provide any one the right to then seek out additional information on that name and post it here. That has been and will continue to be a violation of the forum code of conduct, and so bans and what have you are incoming. Fair warning." Raged hard. No he's just telling the truth, only immature little pricks feel like they have to harass someone because they suddenly found out his real name. Normal people just see that it's his real name and say: oh.
Agreed, but this doesn't change the fact that internet forums are full of all sorts of people and we can't simply assume they are all reasonable human beings
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On July 07 2010 22:35 Shirolol wrote:
No he's just telling the truth, only immature little pricks feel like they have to harass someone because they suddenly found out his real name. Normal people just see that it's his real name and say: oh.
You don't seem to get it. Do you think having it against the rules of conduct are going to do anything to stop these "immature little pricks". People can and will do this kind of thing. It's sad that bishiok had to be the lamb who went up for slaughter, but honestly it had to be done.
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On July 07 2010 22:35 Merikh wrote:
Yeah he disabled his twitter and facebook.
Hello Web 2.0 that says is all.
If you or 3rd Party publishes your private data people will find it. ...
Thats why I wont ever use FB
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Its dumb....Why not post ur SIN number as well.
What were/are they smoking over at blizzheadquaters....
The same day i learned about this, i goto 4chan and they already had a thread a mile long, busy at work trolling the forums collecting ids..
What do they hope to accomplish? (blizz, not 4chan...)
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Well, I hope this makes them rethink their stupid Real-ID idea.
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Stunts like these NEVER end well...
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To be fair, Biowares developers post with their real names in their forums as well. Works for them somehow. Maybe they will regret that once their star wars MMO comes out, their userbase explodes and millions of juveniles will start googleling their names.
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On July 07 2010 22:36 Azile wrote:
I think you'd have to be pretty naive to give your name out and expect no one to be able to find anything out about you. I think the point Bashiok was making was that it doesn't matter.
Ok people now know his real name (it was never hidden before) and found his Twitter, Facebook, etc.. now what happens? Nothing.
Blue posters real names will be shown when they post just like anyone else, they are not shocked about this, it's not a revelation.
apparently he had to close his twitter account and block his phone. so something happened already. and you can be sure that more of such stuff will happen. the outcry on this is HUGE.
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On July 07 2010 22:29 danl9rm wrote:
i guess this is all done to prove something? these people are despicable.
I feel no sympathy for Bashiok. Giving out your real name on the internet is asking for trouble, especially when gaming communities are known for being full of pranksters. Yeah it sucks he got bit, but that's what happens when you jump into a pack of wolves just to prove a point.
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He didn't try to prove anything and him stating that you can get banned for publishing private information is JUST him stating the rules. God you guys are dumb.
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On July 07 2010 22:42 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 22:36 Azile wrote:
I think you'd have to be pretty naive to give your name out and expect no one to be able to find anything out about you. I think the point Bashiok was making was that it doesn't matter.
Ok people now know his real name (it was never hidden before) and found his Twitter, Facebook, etc.. now what happens? Nothing.
Blue posters real names will be shown when they post just like anyone else, they are not shocked about this, it's not a revelation. apparently he had to close his twitter account and block his phone. so something happened already. and you can be sure that more of such stuff will happen. the outcry on this is HUGE.
http://twitter.com/micahwhipple
Doesn't look closed to me.
And even if he had closed all his public outlets down, the only reason he would is due to the massive spam i'm sure he's getting now from douchebags worldwide who think they're going to make a point.
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i feel bad for bashiok. but... really i saw this coming
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poor bashiok. it was a poor decision by blizzard to make the real name mandatory, but he definitely doesn't deserve that attack after all the help and time hes spent with the community.
honestly, i'm kind of repulsed by the shit people will do
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I grew up in the south. When someone said "watch this," we all took a step back.
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On July 07 2010 22:42 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 22:36 Azile wrote:
I think you'd have to be pretty naive to give your name out and expect no one to be able to find anything out about you. I think the point Bashiok was making was that it doesn't matter.
Ok people now know his real name (it was never hidden before) and found his Twitter, Facebook, etc.. now what happens? Nothing.
Blue posters real names will be shown when they post just like anyone else, they are not shocked about this, it's not a revelation. apparently he had to close his twitter account and block his phone. so something happened already. and you can be sure that more of such stuff will happen. the outcry on this is HUGE.
If that does not make the think twice about this "feature" I don't think anything will. I mean, Real-ID is a great feature when it comes to actual friends. People you know and trust in real life and with whom you want to stay connected across games. However, BNet forums are NOT a trustworthy place (space?) to post your real name.
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well, i hope he doesn't get knocked down by some nerd rage kiddies.
Anyways
![[image loading]](http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/aiq3-6.jpg )
BANANA TREE
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Good lord.
This post says it all.
Anyone that says this real name thing is a good idea needs to take a look here. While this was demonstrated to some effect on the other TL thread, the info they have on this guy is just off-the-wall now. Mother, brother, wife, address, pics.
What a way to prove a point. This is an awful idea.
I actually feel bad for the guy. Martyred by the internet in the name of Activision-Blizzard.
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n1
exactly what blizzard deserves as answer for this bullshit
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@ Mortician:
Although I created this thread, I did so in order to discuss and show the dangers of revealing to much personal information on the web. This is NOT a place to actually post personal information on poor Bashiok. So please refrain from doing so, he has learned the hard way how bad this Real-ID feature is already.
Discuss the feature and its consequences plz, don't spread Bashioks personal data. Thanks.
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On July 07 2010 22:33 Vedic wrote:He responded when people started posting the info in the main WoW thread for it. Show nested quote +"I should point out that showing a real first and last name doesn't provide any one the right to then seek out additional information on that name and post it here. That has been and will continue to be a violation of the forum code of conduct, and so bans and what have you are incoming. Fair warning." Raged hard.
I believe the term is QQ
RiIP Micah Whipple.
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Wow lol, I kinda feel bad for Bashiok. I mean seriously. Not something i'd want to happen. Poor guy
Edit: Anyone wanna give him a ring? ;(
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Well it looks like Blizzard has two choices:
1. Forget about the Real-ID altogether and learn to live with the occasional spammer / harrassment OR
2. stick with Real-ID and be responsible for real life harrassment of random people (their employees probably get special privileges to NOT show their real-ID).
I know which one is worse, but some people are thinking with their wallet and only about short term gains.
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On July 07 2010 22:50 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Wow lol, I kinda feel bad for Bashiok. I mean seriously. Not something i'd want to happen. Poor guy ;(
Nobody forced him to do it.
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Looks like this is the latest import from China: Human search engine.
Bad call blizzard, bad call. What the fuck were they smoking to come up with the real ID idea?
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On July 07 2010 22:49 nyshak wrote:
@ Mortician:
Although I created this thread, I did so in order to discuss and show the dangers of revealing to much personal information on the web. This is NOT a place to actually post personal information on poor Bashiok. So please refrain from doing so, he has learned the hard way how bad this Real-ID feature is already.
Discuss the feature and its consequences plz, don't spread Bashioks personal data. Thanks.
Sorry, will edit my post
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he had to delete his facebook too i think...
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This is so depressing. Bliz has made some awful decisions, and communicated them awfully; and the community tends to go a bit spare. It all ends up being very hostile and ugly. Sigh. Poor bashiok.
I really really hope they dump the id idea though. Disclosure of dentity on the internets should always always be the individuals free choice. If they are genuinely worried about the quality of their forums, they should consider other solutions. (Take a page out of TL's book - this site is amazing, the way it's run. Seriously. You ppl are amazing.)
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On July 07 2010 22:53 chocopan wrote:
This is so depressing. Bliz has made some awful decisions, and communicated them awfully; and the community tends to go a bit spare. It all ends up being very hostile and ugly. Sigh. Poor bashiok.
I really really hope they dump the id idea though. Disclosure of dentity on the internets should always always be the individuals free choice. If they are genuinely worried about the quality of their forums, they should consider other solutions. (Take a page out of TL's book - this site is amazing, the way it's run. Seriously. You ppl are amazing.)
They should dump the idea to use Real-ID on Bnet public forums. Keeping it for those people who actually have real friends to play with is a cool feature 
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On July 07 2010 22:51 Rabiator wrote:
Well it looks like Blizzard has two choices:
1. Forget about the Real-ID altogether and learn to live with the occasional spammer / harrassment OR
2. stick with Real-ID and be responsible for real life harrassment of random people.
I know which one is worse, but some people are thinking with their wallet and only about short term gains.
They're not responsible in the least, no one's forcing you to post on their forums. You agree to the EULA, you choose to let your name be shown. They're not the first forum to do this they're just by far the largest.
I do think they will end up ditching the whole concept though just because of the nerd rage it's generated.
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I feel sorry for bashiok because he seems like a cool guy, but this is the best thing that could possibly have happened.
this sort of thing sends a message, hopefully they re-evaluate their goddamn brains now
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On July 07 2010 22:55 Azile wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 22:51 Rabiator wrote:
Well it looks like Blizzard has two choices:
1. Forget about the Real-ID altogether and learn to live with the occasional spammer / harrassment OR
2. stick with Real-ID and be responsible for real life harrassment of random people.
I know which one is worse, but some people are thinking with their wallet and only about short term gains. They're not responsible in the least, no one's forcing you to post on their forums. You agree to the EULA, you choose to let your name be shown. They're not the first forum to do this they're just by far the largest. I do think they will end up ditching the whole concept though just because of the nerd rage it's generated.
They will reconsider publishing the real names of their staff though I wager. Because with staff, all the idiots out there have a reason to harass them right of the bat.
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On July 07 2010 22:35 Shirolol wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 22:33 Vedic wrote:He responded when people started posting the info in the main WoW thread for it. "I should point out that showing a real first and last name doesn't provide any one the right to then seek out additional information on that name and post it here. That has been and will continue to be a violation of the forum code of conduct, and so bans and what have you are incoming. Fair warning." Raged hard. No he's just telling the truth, only immature little pricks feel like they have to harass someone because they suddenly found out his real name. Normal people just see that it's his real name and say: oh.
Imagine you play a game of SC2 vs a spoiled brat and for some reason he gets incredibly mad at you, partly because you 6 pooled him, mostly because he simply is an idiot. Imagine him digging up you personal information.
What if this happens in the US, you live close to him and he has a weapon.
Sure it is absolutely ridiculous, but we all have heard about people killing because of video games. It also is only one of the most extreme scenarios, anything could happen.
I think it's normal for Bashiok to rage hard when information about his children was brought up; it sounds like a serious threat in the ears of a parent.
Overall though I think it is good to show them what the internet is capable of. Though I am surprised that they didn't see this coming.
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I dont feel sorry for him at all, he was defending something which is IMO wrong, I just hope this opens up the eyes of blizzard and stops with all thsi facebook real -id malarkey
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This is where bashiok sits.
![[image loading]](http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt243/bashiok/IMG_0205.jpg)
I feel bad for him.
Then again maybe blizzard will rethink this whole thing after one of their own employees got harassed.
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Well, I'm glad someone from Blizzard decided to be the scapegoat. I'm pretty sure they'll rethink their strategy now.
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i dont understand how someone can feel sorry for him, blizzard will stop it now, be happy about this answer
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Bashiok of all people really doesn't deserve that shit, but if it makes a point... =/
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I hate to break it to you guys, but being able to find all that stuff about a person is possible even without a real name. Most of it is even public access or what is known as Open Source INTelligence. The rest is easily hackable. You guys would be surprised to see how much information about yourself is public.
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Blizzard should just stick to making games and leave the community to the community...
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On July 07 2010 22:55 Azile wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 22:51 Rabiator wrote:
Well it looks like Blizzard has two choices:
1. Forget about the Real-ID altogether and learn to live with the occasional spammer / harrassment OR
2. stick with Real-ID and be responsible for real life harrassment of random people.
I know which one is worse, but some people are thinking with their wallet and only about short term gains. They're not responsible in the least, no one's forcing you to post on their forums. You agree to the EULA, you choose to let your name be shown. They're not the first forum to do this they're just by far the largest. I do think they will end up ditching the whole concept though just because of the nerd rage it's generated.
Oh come on ... sure you sign the EULA and arent forced to post on the forum, but do you honestly think that young children are mature enough to recognize this danger? Blizzard doesnt put an 18+ sticker on their games if they dont have to ...
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I don't know why everyone thinks this is shocking, like Bashiok and Blizzard didn't expect this to happen. Do you really think they're so naive they didn't expect a bunch of nerds to immediately try to find out every scrap of information they could about blue posters when their names were revealed?
If they cancel this real ID crap before it's implemented it will be just because they're sick of hearing the QQ about it, not because omg someone found Bashiok's Facebook!!
Oh come on ... sure you sign the EULA and arent forced to post on the forum, but do you honestly think that young children are mature enough to recognize this danger? Blizzard doesnt put an 18+ sticker on their games if they dont have to ...
No, I think that's what parents are for. You do know about parents right? If a child runs out in traffic and gets hit by a car do you blame Toyota?
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In all likelihood Bashiok did this on purpose. His name has been public for a while being a Blizzard employee anyways, he knew what would happen being so involved in the community/internet. It's kind of silly to assume every Blizzard staff members supports every decision management makes, I there's a good chance he did this in protest.
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Blame Activision. Blizzard is getting killed by Kotick.
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On July 07 2010 22:35 Shirolol wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 22:33 Vedic wrote:He responded when people started posting the info in the main WoW thread for it. "I should point out that showing a real first and last name doesn't provide any one the right to then seek out additional information on that name and post it here. That has been and will continue to be a violation of the forum code of conduct, and so bans and what have you are incoming. Fair warning." Raged hard. No he's just telling the truth, only immature little pricks feel like they have to harass someone because they suddenly found out his real name. Normal people just see that it's his real name and say: oh.
I probably would've gone one step further and said: "oh, cool."
Hunting this man down is only proving your own sinister heart. We all knew beforehand that the internet is a cesspool. But, oh, thanks internets for revealing the truth to me by mocking a blizzard employee.
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On July 07 2010 22:35 Shirolol wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 22:33 Vedic wrote:He responded when people started posting the info in the main WoW thread for it. "I should point out that showing a real first and last name doesn't provide any one the right to then seek out additional information on that name and post it here. That has been and will continue to be a violation of the forum code of conduct, and so bans and what have you are incoming. Fair warning." Raged hard. No he's just telling the truth, only immature little pricks feel like they have to harass someone because they suddenly found out his real name. Normal people just see that it's his real name and say: oh.
There aren't really that many "normal" people that you speak of. There are tons of these people off the internet too.
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On July 07 2010 23:04 Defeat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 22:35 Shirolol wrote:On July 07 2010 22:33 Vedic wrote:He responded when people started posting the info in the main WoW thread for it. "I should point out that showing a real first and last name doesn't provide any one the right to then seek out additional information on that name and post it here. That has been and will continue to be a violation of the forum code of conduct, and so bans and what have you are incoming. Fair warning." Raged hard. No he's just telling the truth, only immature little pricks feel like they have to harass someone because they suddenly found out his real name. Normal people just see that it's his real name and say: oh. There aren't really that many "normal" people that you speak of. There are tons of these people off the internet too.
What was done was done to prove a point so that this sort of thing won't go through and end up happening to customers.
edit: double post oops ;s
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Not read all post, but lets put this into perspective, he posted his name but we already knew so much about him, worked for blizzard etc.
See if any of you can get my details, my name is David Cross. GO!
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Welcome to the internet Bashiok.
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Most of Legion loves being Anonymous when the new protocol goes in to effect, i suspect much of the same will happen to all the other blues.
Edit: ooo and if someone has a 'death note' soon they will start destroying blues....
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Sweden33719 Posts
On July 07 2010 22:35 Shirolol wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 22:33 Vedic wrote:He responded when people started posting the info in the main WoW thread for it. "I should point out that showing a real first and last name doesn't provide any one the right to then seek out additional information on that name and post it here. That has been and will continue to be a violation of the forum code of conduct, and so bans and what have you are incoming. Fair warning." Raged hard. No he's just telling the truth, only immature little pricks feel like they have to harass someone because they suddenly found out his real name. Normal people just see that it's his real name and say: oh.
... Yes, and this is the internet.
There are a lot of fuck-faces on it.
If everyone was a good guy of course there wouldn't be a bloody problem (tho they STILL shouldn't implement it, since if everyone was a saint there'd be no reason to).
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On July 07 2010 23:00 Azile wrote:I don't know why everyone thinks this is shocking, like Bashiok and Blizzard didn't expect this to happen. Do you really think they're so naive they didn't expect a bunch of nerds to immediately try to find out every scrap of information they could about blue posters when their names were revealed? If they cancel this real ID crap before it's implemented it will be just because they're sick of hearing the QQ about it, not because omg someone found Bashiok's Facebook!! Show nested quote +Oh come on ... sure you sign the EULA and arent forced to post on the forum, but do you honestly think that young children are mature enough to recognize this danger? Blizzard doesnt put an 18+ sticker on their games if they dont have to ... No, I think that's what parents are for. You do know about parents right? If a child runs out in traffic and gets hit by a car do you blame Toyota?
How many crusades have parents had against violent videogames, tv, movies, music, etc? Those parents never blame themselves, they only blame the ones who brought a certain element into their childrens lives, and they'll do the same thing here if (when) something goes wrong.
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Anyone feel like making a Micah Whittle facebook account and posting all sorts of crap on it?
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That's fucking hilarious!
If people can find other people on anonymous forums I am pretty sure they can find anybody that post their real name
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On July 07 2010 23:05 supertino wrote:
Not read all post, but lets put this into perspective, he posted his name but we already knew so much about him, worked for blizzard etc.
See if any of you can get my details, my name is David Cross. GO!
I would, but I only know where to look for things in america. MVA, where public access records are, etc. Somebody more knowledgeable with the English system could probably pull an address and phone number and schooling easily.
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Zurich15355 Posts
We already have a real ID thread with 1700+ replies. We really don't need another one at this point.
Maybe when everyone has cooled down about it. Meaning in September.
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