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On May 06 2004 12:10 [pG]Rekrul wrote: Show nested quote +On May 06 2004 12:02 Twitt wrote: On May 06 2004 11:56 [pG]Rekrul wrote: On May 06 2004 11:44 Twitt wrote:
I've seen a few reps of you, nothing much to go off, I've just seen a lot of Nyoken since I know him. He seems really solid all the way around, I'm not saying you're definitely below him, I'm just going off what I know. I'm not just picking him cuz hes a friend, I just have more exposure to him and have seen more of his games,thats all. then why pick anyone at all if your picking means nothing because you do not possess enough information to make a valid judgement I was saying that from what I've seen, I would place Nyoken above Sadist, not that I don't know anything about anyone I picked. I just know more about Nyo's gameplay than Sadists, thats why I put him above him. I think you might have misunderstood me. my point is why would you put anyone above anyone if you're aware of your own ignorance towards another player's capabilities instead of saying "player x is > than player y because of what i've seen" you can say "i don't know shit."
Right.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On May 06 2004 12:14 IntoTheClan wrote: Show nested quote +On May 06 2004 12:10 [pG]Rekrul wrote: On May 06 2004 12:02 Twitt wrote: On May 06 2004 11:56 [pG]Rekrul wrote: On May 06 2004 11:44 Twitt wrote:
I've seen a few reps of you, nothing much to go off, I've just seen a lot of Nyoken since I know him. He seems really solid all the way around, I'm not saying you're definitely below him, I'm just going off what I know. I'm not just picking him cuz hes a friend, I just have more exposure to him and have seen more of his games,thats all. then why pick anyone at all if your picking means nothing because you do not possess enough information to make a valid judgement I was saying that from what I've seen, I would place Nyoken above Sadist, not that I don't know anything about anyone I picked. I just know more about Nyo's gameplay than Sadists, thats why I put him above him. I think you might have misunderstood me. my point is why would you put anyone above anyone if you're aware of your own ignorance towards another player's capabilities instead of saying "player x is > than player y because of what i've seen" you can say "i don't know shit." Right.
Wrong. Say something productive or don't say anything at all.
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IntoTheClan, you're like asking to get banned or something. =/
All I'm saying is that I have seen Sadist play, and based on what I've seen, which was from a few months ago, I would say Nyoken is better. He says he's gotten a lot better recently, and I've seen a few of the games, maybe not enough to grasp completely how much better he's gotten, but enough to where I feel Nyoken is still better. Maybe if I saw more games, it would give me more to decide off of, thats all I'm saying.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On May 06 2004 12:40 Twitt wrote:
IntoTheClan, you're like asking to get banned or something. =/
All I'm saying is that I have seen Sadist play, and based on what I've seen, which was from a few months ago, I would say Nyoken is better. He says he's gotten a lot better recently, and I've seen a few of the games, maybe not enough to grasp completely how much better he's gotten, but enough to where I feel Nyoken is still better. Maybe if I saw more games, it would give me more to decide off of, thats all I'm saying.
AND WHAT IM SAYING IS THAT YOU SAYING THAT IS COMPLETE IDIOCY, OK?
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On May 06 2004 12:42 [pG]Rekrul wrote: Show nested quote +On May 06 2004 12:40 Twitt wrote:
IntoTheClan, you're like asking to get banned or something. =/
All I'm saying is that I have seen Sadist play, and based on what I've seen, which was from a few months ago, I would say Nyoken is better. He says he's gotten a lot better recently, and I've seen a few of the games, maybe not enough to grasp completely how much better he's gotten, but enough to where I feel Nyoken is still better. Maybe if I saw more games, it would give me more to decide off of, thats all I'm saying. AND WHAT IM SAYING IS THAT YOU SAYING THAT IS COMPLETE IDIOCY, OK?
meh, everyones entitled to their opinion.
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On May 06 2004 09:56 Countdown wrote: nextel, lmao. imo: best T: (excluding assem) Froz nyoken hovz Best P: Rek, and about 6 others just as good best Z: day kickdog cocoa best random: me!  most creative: Tsunami, duh
nextel is probably the best american P currently thats active him or saddles there arent that many good active Ps rite now but ur an idiot so y am i posting this. . .
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That's just silly nero. Why would you even believe that?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
i'm active, and i'm a million times better than nextel could dream of becoming
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someone on my f list went on west in a smurf and he asked nextel how good he is. nextel told him he was the best in usa
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I didn't know BigBalls was such a good P player like I've read alot of people post. Were you just kidding or what? Reps?
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On May 06 2004 12:51 NerO wrote: Show nested quote +On May 06 2004 09:56 Countdown wrote: nextel, lmao. imo: best T: (excluding assem) Froz nyoken hovz Best P: Rek, and about 6 others just as good best Z: day kickdog cocoa best random: me! most creative: Tsunami, duh nextel is probably the best american P currently thats active him or saddles there arent that many good active Ps rite now but ur an idiot so y am i posting this. . .
not that Nextel or Saddles arent good, but if those are the best active P players we have right now, i'm scared ;(
maybe we should start gaming again Cody.
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United States4471 Posts
People shouldn't compare two things unless they have knowledge of both. You don't say that FroZ is better than Boxer just because you've seen more reps of FroZ, and from that, you think that FroZ is better. A reasonable person would realize that you just shouldn't be comparing them at all if you don't know a lot about both. Statements made in ignorance will be treated as such.
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Yeah you guys..if you don't study every USA player and know exactly who's better than who this very second, why are you posting? You must have known that this was directed only to strict USA BW analysts ..........
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On May 06 2004 13:39 hasuwar wrote: Yeah you guys..if you don't study every USA player and know exactly who's better than who this very second, why are you posting? You must have known that this was directed only to strict USA BW analysts ..........
he was talking to Twitt, dipshit
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On May 06 2004 11:36 Twitt wrote:
I think right now Nyoken > Sadist. I'll put Cocoa in as my 3rd zerg, since hes better than anyone else I can think of.
hm sadist is better than nyoken. nyoken's tvp is so god awful oo;
T
sadist
glory
Z
day
kickdog
cocoa
p
rekrul
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HM, i wonder who that was : )~
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On May 06 2004 11:59 iloveoo wrote:
and how do you know they are newbies Sadist ?
have u ever seen 'them' play?
no u haven't , so that means u can't judge?
blehh this logic makes 0 sense
if someone's so good at bw he would have achieved something.......even top3 at WGT/WCG ...... something...
people who have achieved 0 and therefore don't deserve to be on the list :
nyoken
sadist
artofglory
kickdog
cocoa
testie
so that leaves us with many canadians.......and very few americans (rek/froz/assem)
Hovz is excluded because he's terrible compared to the others.....and talks too much
Also Testie deserves to be there , seeing as how good he's playing lately
its quite easy to tell if they are newbies.
Heres an easy example
"player x: Omg Rico is so gosu... hes like the best zerg in europe"
Now this could mean 1 of 2 things, ...Player X is actually being incredibly sarcastic.
Or That Player X is incredibly bad and actually believes the person is that good.
Not to mention this is a retarded discussion.
How can you say no american player besides rek and froz and assem accomplished shit then say canadian players have accomplished more.
Only ones whove done anything in korea are Grrr and Smuft
That sure is a FUCKLOAD more people than america has.
Oh and i never claimed i got extremely good or anything, maybe someone misconstrued that from me saying my TvZ has gotten better.
I actally dont play nearly as much as i did before and when i do play its rarely with anyone "good"
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as always people tend to take these lists way too serious. anyways, here is my list based on my oppinion ( and to satisfy some ppl here I'll include the disclaimer "I dont know shit" )
t: hellghost, sadist, hovz
p: grrr, testie, rekrul
z: paul, cocoa, day
r: testie
most creative: rekrul does some insane arbeiter moves often so i'll pick him
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EPT
