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wetfart
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia11 Posts
July 01 2010 02:38 GMT
#1
Hey guys
Quick question about the rate of spreading creep by tumors.

If you have 2 in the same area does that surrounding area spread 2x as fast?

does this apply to more creep tumors? say if i have 3 or 4
cheers
Ikiron
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States88 Posts
July 01 2010 02:44 GMT
#2
I do believe they spread faster with more nearby.
Why be the best when you can die like the rest.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 01 2010 02:45 GMT
#3
I'm pretty sure they don't spread faster, but you can cover more ground faster.
Toadily
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States837 Posts
July 01 2010 02:49 GMT
#4
Yea, the more there is, the faster it spreads.
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 02:50:41
July 01 2010 02:49 GMT
#5
they spread faster, not 100% sure at the rate, but I'd assume its double for two, triple for three, etc.

Edit: Same basic radius of creep is produced around each, a larger area isn't covered.
vT.sOel
Profile Joined June 2010
122 Posts
July 01 2010 02:52 GMT
#6
On July 01 2010 11:45 Ryuu314 wrote:
I'm pretty sure they don't spread faster, but you can cover more ground faster.


that makes no sense at all. LOL
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
July 01 2010 02:56 GMT
#7
On July 01 2010 11:45 Ryuu314 wrote:
I'm pretty sure they don't spread faster, but you can cover more ground faster.


It actually does make sense...
always tired -_-
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
July 01 2010 02:58 GMT
#8
On July 01 2010 11:52 vT.sOel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 11:45 Ryuu314 wrote:
I'm pretty sure they don't spread faster, but you can cover more ground faster.


that makes no sense at all. LOL

What he means is that if you have two tumors right next to each other, creep doesn't spread faster but if you have two tumors spaced apart where they dont overlap with each other you will have more ground covered in creep.
DTown
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States428 Posts
July 01 2010 02:58 GMT
#9
Someone test this please. My comp fast enough to run SC2 is not feeling too well right now.
Silent331
Profile Joined June 2010
United States356 Posts
July 01 2010 03:02 GMT
#10
Yes it does cover the area 2x faster because of the way the creep tumors work, each tumor works on its own to cover the radius with creep regardless of if there a more near buy, i think it covers like 1square a second. So if creep tumor 1 spawns creep at position 1, than creep tumor 2 will simply take the next available spot when its spawn timer ticks.
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Sylvr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States524 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 03:11:16
July 01 2010 03:10 GMT
#11
I'm fairly certain that more tumors in proximity do cause creep to expand faster.

I believe the mechanic behind it is that a Creep Tumor will spread creep at X amount of inches per second outward from wherever the edge of the creep is. This means that if it encounters an area where there is already creep, it doesn't have to "spread" through that area; it just skips it and the new "edge" from which it spreads becomes the boundary of the actual creep.

Picture an archery target with the Creep Tumor as the bulls-eye. As you go out from the center, you have numbered "zones"

X|1|2|3|4|5| etc.

If you have 2 tumors occupying zone X, then Tumor A will creep out to spread through zone 1. Tumor B will then try to spread but realize that zone 1 is already occupied, and so it will move on to zone 2. I believe the Tumors will continue to leap-frog like this until they reach their range limit.

Edit: Silent90 was way faster with that explanation than I was, lol.
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 03:24:49
July 01 2010 03:15 GMT
#12
Creep tumors fill up the little green circle, more tumors next to each other doesn't make them move farther, just faster getting there.

There are some weird mechanics you can do with overlords across cliffs etc, but that's basically it.

Edit: Actually, this post might have been necessary, I might have misread the previous posters.
HeyitsClay
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada336 Posts
July 01 2010 03:23 GMT
#13
Yeah it spreads faster, but it doesnt really matter much anymore cuz the creep spread got sped up a bit (not in any patch notes, but i noticed this cuz i was always waiting on the creep to place my tumor and now i dont)
ultratorr
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada332 Posts
July 01 2010 03:23 GMT
#14
Wow cool I never knew this.

Does this mean it's always faster to spawn another tumor as soon as one is finished, instead of waiting for each tumor to cover the full area?
Silent331
Profile Joined June 2010
United States356 Posts
July 01 2010 03:27 GMT
#15
On July 01 2010 12:23 ultratorr wrote:
Wow cool I never knew this.

Does this mean it's always faster to spawn another tumor as soon as one is finished, instead of waiting for each tumor to cover the full area?

Im actually gonna head in to the tester and find out
They cant beat you, They only hope you beat yourself.
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
July 01 2010 03:31 GMT
#16
creep needs a nerf , too imba
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
scojac
Profile Joined June 2010
United States99 Posts
July 01 2010 03:39 GMT
#17
more creep tumors = faster spread. i haven't gone and timed it or anything, but i can tell you for sure that having a bunch of tumors together gets that creep out faster.

there's a limit to how effective this is though (i.e. you can't spread creep infinitely fast by bunching tumors together), as the build time is still ~30 seconds (?) Even having 2 tumors within range of each other though, i have noticed a difference.
vizniz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
July 01 2010 03:42 GMT
#18
I did some testing to find out!

The test:

I found spaces where the green tumor circle wasn't hindered by anything. Then, i let an over lord generate seeder creep at the center. When it was maxed, I spawned a creep tumor in the middle, and timed how long it took for it to finish expanding. Timings aren't super precise, as it was hard to tell when it was done spreading creep, but even with the approximation, the results are overwhelmingly varied.

In one trial, I spawned 1 creep tumor from 1 queen. The other, I spawned 2 from 2 queens

The results:
The results are in game seconds.

1 Tumor

1:36

2 Tumors
1:00

So 2 is faster than 1 for sure. I didn't, however, test 3 and 4 creep tumors. It'd be funny if it spread lightning fast then.
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Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
July 01 2010 03:56 GMT
#19
In one of the day9 dailys he talked about how this works, i can't remember if it was TLO or the mass queen one. I'm leaning toward queens though because you need to spread it really fast for the timing attack anddddd you have plenty of queens
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
July 01 2010 03:59 GMT
#20
If you're going a mass Queens build, or a Queen build in general you should have plenty of energy for tumors, just drop 5-6 of them and watch the creep spread like mad.
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