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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On June 16 2010 08:12 midgettoes wrote: According to the internet (read: Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy]). This was withdrawn in 2005 - "The Swiss government, after a 5-year trial, withdrew homeopathy and four other complementary treatments in 2005, stating that they did not meet efficacy and cost-effectiveness criteria." Yeah you're right, but I remember there was a huge uproar over them taking it out. I guess that also explains why it was in in the first place. | ||
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mrproper
Romania93 Posts
Romanian sarcasm on Ya dude, homeopathy totally works, I lost several friends, they overdosed on their homeopathic medication when they stopped taking it. The doctors said that the diluted solution they still had in their body was getting way too diluted (thus stronger) as no new pills were ingested. So they died because of the powerful therapeutic effects the medication has. WARNING: NEVER STOP TAKING YOUR HOMEOPATHIC MEDICATION, YOU WILL DIE!!! + Show Spoiler + Romanian sarcasm off Well, the only problem I see, is that you will spend your money on expensive medicine (50-2000% extra per suggested dose) for the rest of your life, when instead you could buy cheaper and better medication. Some people consider paying more for less, a virtue, something that they can be proud of, so much, that the more you spend for the less you get, makes the item you spend it on, so much more important, truthful and useful. | ||
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tellthenightcomes
Canada66 Posts
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Lefnui
United States753 Posts
On June 16 2010 08:37 Meta wrote: Any medicine that claims caffine will induce sleeping has got to be bullshit on principal. I also like how snake venom is used for stiffness. lol | ||
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
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Lexpar
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On June 16 2010 01:28 APurpleCow wrote: Show them this? James Randi explaining why Homeopathy is BS. Whoa thanks for that! Dr. Light really breaks it down into simple, understandable terms. | ||
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pyr0ma5ta
United States458 Posts
I'm sorry, but saving stupid people is tantamount to deliberately weakening the human gene pool. I have no patience for people who let their faith or beliefs get in the way of life-saving treatments. User was banned for this post. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On June 16 2010 08:55 tellthenightcomes wrote: I have tried homeopathy with very little results if any at all. I have also tried chinese medicine which has worked. I take things for insomnia and also things for inflammation and have found good results with little to no side effects. I have tired mainstream medicine and found ok results with lots of side effect which is not worth it. Until you have something even moderately serious. | ||
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Lefnui
United States753 Posts
On June 16 2010 09:07 Destro wrote: i like how the google ads for this thread are for homeopathic medicine with guaranteed results! And it's an ADHD remedy. Probably diluted crack. | ||
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Sadir
Vatican City State1176 Posts
On June 16 2010 09:28 pyr0ma5ta wrote: If you believe in homeopathy, you deserve to die from whatever it is you've dying from. This goes for Jehova's Witnesses' who believe in the lack of treatment as well. I'm sorry, but saving stupid people is tantamount to deliberately weakening the human gene pool. I have no patience for people who let their faith or beliefs get in the way of life-saving treatments. I believe in homeopathy, so I deserve to die? I don't think so I take it for not so serious things, where conventional medicine fails to help me for me and my sister it worked most of the time, so I don't give a shit it's only the placebo effect or whatever - it helps so its good I actually had to make a little report for my english classe at university I did a little research on the topic and scientifically speaking you have to say that it seems to be more of a hocus-pocus, then on the other hand, it's effect are so impressive and really astonishing that you don't know what to say O_o I personlly wouldn't trust it when it's a serious sickness, but on the other hand, why shouldn't I try it for not so serious things? | ||
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
On June 16 2010 09:43 Sadir wrote: I believe in homeopathy, so I deserve to die? I don't think so I take it for not so serious things, where conventional medicine fails to help me for me and my sister it worked most of the time, so I don't give a shit it's only the placebo effect or whatever - it helps so its good I actually had to make a little report for my english classe at university I did a little research on the topic and scientifically speaking you have to say that it seems to be more of a hocus-pocus, then on the other hand, it's effect are so impressive and really astonishing that you don't know what to say O_o I personlly wouldn't trust it when it's a serious sickness, but on the other hand, why shouldn't I try it for not so serious things? Did you even read what he said? from whatever it is you've dying from. While it certainly isn't the most PC of thoughts, at least address it correctly. And how does conventional medicine fail to help? At worst, it also has a placebo effect, making it equal to homeopathy. And what does "you have to say it's more of a hocus pocus" even mean? The results of homeopathy are NOT impressive, they are NOT astonishing, and you would be a fool and a liar to say so. | ||
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pyr0ma5ta
United States458 Posts
On June 16 2010 09:43 Sadir wrote: I believe in homeopathy, so I deserve to die? I don't think so I take it for not so serious things, where conventional medicine fails to help me for me and my sister it worked most of the time, so I don't give a shit it's only the placebo effect or whatever - it helps so its good I actually had to make a little report for my english classe at university I did a little research on the topic and scientifically speaking you have to say that it seems to be more of a hocus-pocus, then on the other hand, it's effect are so impressive and really astonishing that you don't know what to say O_o I personlly wouldn't trust it when it's a serious sickness, but on the other hand, why shouldn't I try it for not so serious things? Yes, you do deserve to die. If you think it's doing something for you, then you're simply fooling yourself. There is to some extent a mind-over-matter factor (otherwise known as placebo effect), but any "doctor" can prescribe you tap water for that. If you want that, why don't you start sending me money and I can start sending you If you just use it for non-serious stuff, then just remember the old adage: "a fool and his money are soon parted." If you use it for serious stuff, then yes, you do deserve to die. | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On June 16 2010 07:59 Lefnui wrote: How have I been trolling? What are you talking about? You've avoided the question twice now so I'll repeat it: Do you believe that diluting something makes it stronger? I think I have stated like 4 times in this topic that I don't. What more do you want. I'm done with this topic though. Just a bunch of people screaming IT'S DRINKING WATER without having an open mind about it. | ||
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
The dilution strength stuff is complete BS, but that isn't reason to condemn the field as a whole. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On June 16 2010 05:42 snowbird wrote: It works. My mother is an alternative practioner (chinese medicine, acupuncture, homepathy, etc.) and she's helped a lot of people who were almost beyond repair due to being a chemical waste dump thanks to "scientific medicine". Scientific medicine = let's treat the symptoms, people will see results and think it helps (plus we can make $$$ because ppl keep coming back). Chinese medicine = let's treat the cause, there may be no immediate visible effect, but it will actually cure the disease. Edit: Personally I don't let my mother treat me because I'm just too lazy and rather take some pill and be done with it. Homeopathic treatment is more than just taking some pill, it usually involves more involvement (diet change, change of habits / sleeping pattern), because it takes a look at the whole body system and not just one symptom. No it doesn't work, you're lying. On top of this, you're mother is a scam artist and gives people false hope, when in reality shes doing nothing but raking in cash while people still remain sick. You should be ashamed, not proud. I also laugh at how you put scientific medicine in quotes, as if it isn't relevant, or real. How can you possibly ignore all the information proving it is false? Because you've "seen" it work? No, what you saw was a placebo effect, because your mother takes advantage of stupid people. Also, you say real homeopathy medicine includes diet change, habit change, and sleeping pattern change. Well genius, did you know eating healthier, having healthier habits, and getting more sleep means you're HEALTHIER?! "Scientific medicine = let's treat the symptoms, people will see results and think it helps (plus we can make $$$ because ppl keep coming back)." Uh, people see results and think it works? How about results mean it IS working. Biggest fuckin face palm ever. "Chinese medicine = let's treat the cause, there may be no immediate visible effect, but it will actually cure the disease." No it won't, because it doesn't work. Also, if I'm taking medicine, and I notice it's not helping, I should probably change medicines. You're a disgrace honestly, promoting this shit isn't just ignorant, it's CRUEL. How dare your mother give false treatments to people with the hope for cures. -- Also, you still haven't stated which diseases she supposedly cures. User was warned for this post | ||
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EndlessRain
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Also, a lot of people here seem to be confusing naturopathic medicine with homeopathic. | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
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