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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
I just don't know why, but it's something with it that's really boring me. I feel that every match end up the same, and it's just not fun to play with them! So what I'm wondering is: does anyone else feel like this, or is this my fault? If so, how can I make it more interesting? | ||
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jstar
Canada568 Posts
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Surrealz
United States449 Posts
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Backpack
United States1776 Posts
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never_Nal
Costa Rica676 Posts
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yarkO
Canada810 Posts
"We requirrrrrrre morrrrrrrrre meeneerallllllllllllsssssssszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" or that pretentious Terran voice telling me what to do. So I fight for Aiur :D | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
 And yes, robo openings are very boring, but you really have to do it to get an observer to scout and detect! Or if you want photon cannons as detectors in your base you have to go forge, which is also boring :p | ||
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Backpack
United States1776 Posts
On June 13 2010 06:54 Arnstein wrote: Well, my favourite race is zerg And yes, robo openings are very boring, but you really have to do it to get an observer to scout and detect! Or if you want photon cannons as detectors in your base you have to go forge, which is also boring :p Yea i hate making forges, such a boring building. | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
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SiN]
United States540 Posts
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
On June 13 2010 06:55 Backpack wrote: Yea i hate making forges, such a boring building. I assume you were sarcastic, and if you were I guess I have to explain better: that whole forge-defensive-photon-cannon-play is boring, I think not the building itself, ofcourse. | ||
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gillon
Sweden1578 Posts
On June 13 2010 06:56 Sadistx wrote: Have you ever seen -orb- play? I'd say protoss is plenty of fun! Yeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaah, mass void rays all day, erryday! | ||
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kyarisan
United States347 Posts
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
On June 13 2010 06:52 yarkO wrote: Protoss is pretty boring. Unforunately, I can't handle: "We requirrrrrrre morrrrrrrrre meeneerallllllllllllsssssssszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" or that pretentious Terran voice telling me what to do. So I fight for Aiur :D holy ****, you let sound effects decide your race over gameplay? amazing. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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404.Delirium
United States1190 Posts
On June 13 2010 07:06 OneOther wrote: I was Protoss in both BW and SC2. I am not sure how it compares to other races for SC2 but I think it's pretty fun. It's enjoyable to discover how things work differently for the new game and such I'm pretty much in the same boat. I agree with I got a little bored with robo openings so I experimented with blink, stargate, fast expand builds instead and did alright with those  | ||
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zhul4nder
United States189 Posts
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iEchoic
United States1776 Posts
As a Terran player I find myself wishing I got to use small, skill-based things like Forcefield and Blink all the time. | ||
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shimpoe
88 Posts
Edit: and lots of the units have pretty neat active abilities, starting even from the lowest of tiers. Even one of their most basic macro abilities has interesting capabilities, the Warp Gate. | ||
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Weasel-
Canada1556 Posts
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Cheezy
Sweden112 Posts
Stop 4warp gating and going robo builds. Protoss has a lot of cool stuff. Have you ever used Warp Prisms or Hallucination? Probably not. | ||
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yarkO
Canada810 Posts
On June 13 2010 07:02 Vei wrote: holy ****, you let sound effects decide your race over gameplay? amazing. Well if I'm going to dedicate many (many many many) hours/days to this game over the next several years, I want to at least be able to tolerate the voice I'll hear the most. | ||
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Panoptic
United Kingdom515 Posts
Imo they've had the biggest overhaul in comparison to the other races, and they have by far some of the most interesting/fun early game micro. And macro. | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
On June 13 2010 07:10 iEchoic wrote: I think Protoss is the most fun, there's a lot of really fun abilities like Forcefield, Blink, and Pheonix's pickup (forgot name). As a Terran player I find myself wishing I got to use small, skill-based things like Forcefield and Blink all the time. youve got tons: snipe, siege, concussive shells, viking transformation, emp, nukes, yamato, jetpacks etc. | ||
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Punic
United States152 Posts
On June 13 2010 06:56 Sadistx wrote: Have you ever seen -orb- play? I'd say protoss is plenty of fun! not fond of his play or him but i like the different things protoss allows you to do from fast robos to siiiick voidray openings | ||
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No_eL
Chile1438 Posts
ps: i dont getting a lot of fun in sc2 indeed =( | ||
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Droak
Sweden47 Posts
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byobong7
United States207 Posts
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Jadoreoov
United States76 Posts
I DONT WANT TO BUTTER YOUR BISCUITS! | ||
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
On June 13 2010 07:13 Cheezy wrote: Anything is as fun as you make it. Stop 4warp gating and going robo builds. Protoss has a lot of cool stuff. Have you ever used Warp Prisms or Hallucination? Probably not. I've used both. Hallucination is a great alternative to robo with observer, and it can also confuse opponents on what units they should get. I had alot of fun with Warp Prisms and/or proxy pylons for a while, but the fun just didn't last long. | ||
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Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
On June 13 2010 07:21 byobong7 wrote: I don't think protoss is boring because of the gameplay of the units, ect. However their background music and lack of real character with the 'robot' units is extremely boring compared to terran and zerg. Playing Terran is actually fun with the SCV's and other units talk imo. Yup. I find that protoss are dealing with some identity crysis. The stalker and the sentry are really odd looking, though their abilities are fun. The immortal looks great, but only shoots what appear to be a powerful powder gun instead of made of laser. The phoenix, a supposed air supperiority has a gravitron beam for harassing - wow - and is the smallest air unit taking out the interceptors. They are so advanced but need 6 range, even terrans that supposedly aren't so smart were able to build a air unit with longer range. The warp prism, is a nice idea, but they made it so weak, only on undefended places can it be used. The units with most personality are probably the colossus and the dark templar. The high templar is nice in paper, but it's toon in the game looks like it came from warcraft. The archon is very protoish, and since it's the merging of two very important protoss units, the templars, it should be really strong, but unfortunately they made it a joke to use. I hope better times will come ;/ | ||
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Kinslayer
United States129 Posts
- Blinking Stalkers - Warping technology - Forcefields - PSI Storms - FREAKING Ninjas!! - Mothership! Come on now! | ||
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gdroxor
United States639 Posts
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junemermaid
United States981 Posts
On June 13 2010 06:56 clickrush wrote: protoss is far from boring in my book. they added many interesting abilites and units. well if you only play proxygate and 4gate allin then it might be pretty boring. This. I got bored with protoss early on, but that was because I was doing the same 4 gate / 3gate robo push every game because I didn't know what else to do. There are tons of fun and interesting tactics you can do with them. | ||
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
On June 13 2010 07:14 yarkO wrote: Well if I'm going to dedicate many (many many many) hours/days to this game over the next several years, I want to at least be able to tolerate the voice I'll hear the most. play with music or use a sound editor to change the sounds feelin bad for u man | ||
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Half
United States2554 Posts
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kzn
United States1218 Posts
Plus, they're fuckin adorable. You'd have to be blind to play T or Z. | ||
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SkCom
Canada229 Posts
to each their own taste | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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TT1
Canada10004 Posts
that being said pvp is kinda boring because the mu is so 1 dimentional, blizz needs to think of a way of integrating dts back into pvp without messing up the balance in other mus | ||
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RoboFerret
United States70 Posts
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shimpoe
88 Posts
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iEchoic
United States1776 Posts
On June 13 2010 07:15 clickrush wrote: youve got tons: snipe, siege, concussive shells, viking transformation, emp, nukes, yamato, jetpacks etc. Snipe: rarely used, ghosts are only really good in tvp and using energy on anything except EMP is usually stupid Siege: not fun Concussive shells: passive Viking transformation: not fun Emp: not fun Nukes: not often used Yamato: rarely used Jetpacks: passive | ||
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gillon
Sweden1578 Posts
On June 13 2010 07:08 zhul4nder wrote: IMO, protoss are the hardest of the races microwise. macro it's pretty damn straight forward, waprgates...spam em. so, it's boring in the macro, but the micro involved balances it out alright. I wouldn't say P micro is anymore difficult than T micro. I'd even argue the opposite. Infact, P micro is mostly 1a ffffffffff except for like.. making sure your immos target armored units. With T you carefully have to position each unit group to be effective. | ||
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
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potatomash3r
Australia417 Posts
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VelRa_G
Canada304 Posts
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nitdkim
1264 Posts
If you start winning with terran and zerg even though you've been playing toss all the time, I think you're style of play is more suited to other races than protoss. | ||
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eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
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Ahzz
Finland780 Posts
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eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
On June 13 2010 08:15 Ahzz wrote: even before opening this thread I could guess that op would have less than 100 posts and this means anything? | ||
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NeonGenesis
Norway260 Posts
Still the most awesome race though | ||
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TT1
Canada10004 Posts
On June 13 2010 07:51 shimpoe wrote: I don't understand what is so 1 dimensional about: immortal, colossus, HT, blink stalker, heavy gateway builds, having proxy pylons/warp prisms to do proxy warp-ins, DT, void ray, phoenix, the hilariousness of sentries. There's just a huge number of paths you can choose to go as Protoss. A lot of maps even allow fast expands to be reasonably safe. most pvp's only revolve around robo play or 4g/3g b.os, its impossible to dt because if u do and if it gets blocked(which it does 99% of the time, the only way dt rushs work is if u get lucky and ur oppo doesnt robo or if he robos late, this statement alone shows theres a flaw with the unit because in a game ur never supposed to rely on what your opponent does) your automaticly fucked because theres nothing to transition into, in sc1 pvp there were alot of follow ups u could do, players wouldnt necessarily dt to kill their opponents, if u did it was a plus but even if ur build was perfectly countered by your opponent it still wouldnt put you in such a huge disadvantage in sc2 its impossible to follow up a dt rush without dying, if u go for a macro build ud end up getting overrun because u wouldnt have enought time to temp tech and the other alternative would be to allin(3g stalker blink/4g mass zeal + charge etc.) its impossible to have an advantage after dt rushing.. p already has an ob out so he can see w/e transition u decide to do, ur basically dead because EVERY follow up to a dt rush is so easy to counter, i challenge anyone to come up with a perfect macro build that u can transition into after dt rushing (assuming your dt rush was blocked) that is safe vs every b.o | ||
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perfectflaw72
Canada94 Posts
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Voodo0
Germany25 Posts
ive done my first steps in sc2 with protoss and ended up pretty much 4 gate or robo all inning. I switched to zerg, because i really thaught for a while that this were the actual style of playing protoss and it seemed boring to me. But after i gained a certain amount of skill and was matched against better protoss oponents with my zerg, i got used to many variable protoss strategys... Also, the pro scene arround the sc2 protoss evolved and showed many fancy ways to play with protoss... So i decided to go back to them to test out some more stuff and there is plenty of variations to play with protoss... just get some inspiration out there and try something new  ... and dont throw ideas away only because it doesnt work on the first time. | ||
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Cheezy
Sweden112 Posts
The only problem is forcefields. Good usage of that will hurt dts a lot. DT rush quite nicely counters 4gate. If your dt rush fails, you can still use the dts for harassing here and there for the rest of the game. | ||
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perfectflaw72
Canada94 Posts
On June 13 2010 07:52 iEchoic wrote: Snipe would be fun because its so low energy but does no damage it has good uses but you requir 2-3 shots to kill something usefull and that equals 75 energy/ cloak which could have been used on emp 45 damage sucks maybe something like 90-120?Snipe: rarely used, ghosts are only really good in tvp and using energy on anything except EMP is usually stupid Siege: not fun Concussive shells: passive Viking transformation: not fun Emp: not fun Nukes: not often used Yamato: rarely used Jetpacks: passive | ||
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