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leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
May 07 2010 17:49 GMT
#21
Points doesnt really matter either do they? Its your "hidden" rating that really matters.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
May 07 2010 17:49 GMT
#22
I'm a 32nd rank Wifflebat in the Grand Order of Plastics (known as G.o.o.p for short) and because of this I get to wear a fez.
Be jealous!*

*The above statement was brought to you by pointless beta ladder ranks and pointless threads coalition. Building a better tomorrow at the sacrifice of today.
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
May 07 2010 17:49 GMT
#23
On May 08 2010 02:40 Kashll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does...


Oh does it?


http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23766800567&sid=5000&pageNo=2
Post 35

Sorry I misunderstood what the OP was referring to. I didn't mean to imply that one division is ranked better than the other, but simply explaining the basics of divisions. As far as comparison across divisions it's certainly something we've considered but there are issues, such that the rankings in one division don't directly translate to the other divisions. So you couldn't compare division 10 to division 48 and compare one player's points to another.
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
zealing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada806 Posts
May 07 2010 17:50 GMT
#24
is this directed at me cause im rank 5 plat

with 1402 ratting ye ye
Think you got lag? It took Jesus 3 days to respawn.
link0
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1071 Posts
May 07 2010 17:50 GMT
#25
Don't the bonus pools differ depending on which divison you are in?
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Aprikosen
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden53 Posts
May 07 2010 17:51 GMT
#26
I'm sure there will be websites on the internets collecting data and thus establishing continental rankings. You will never have to be unsure of your rank ever again.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3131 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 17:51:58
May 07 2010 17:51 GMT
#27
Ironically, it seems the purpose of your thread is calling attention to your rank and rating (....LOL?) Which, worse yet, is more annoying than people parading their top 5 platinum ranking.

Well done.

YOU AINT FOOLING ME, SIR.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
May 07 2010 17:51 GMT
#28
The "lower division = better" comes from the early days of beta, where many good players got keys first and were placed in the low divisions. Since the resets, this is largely irrelevant.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 17:55:10
May 07 2010 17:52 GMT
#29
On May 08 2010 02:38 craaaaack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does.



On May 08 2010 02:38 Talic_Zealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.

It is in fact the same. Since you are not playing people that are only in your division.


On May 08 2010 02:40 Kashll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does...


On May 08 2010 02:41 grubal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:40 Kashll wrote:
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does...


This is correct. I approve.


On May 08 2010 02:43 Alou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


1400 = 1400. You're not playing people in only your division so it is roughly the same. I mean some guy could hypothetically randomly get all the extremely good people, but it's honestly roughly the same.



On May 08 2010 02:46 eugen1225 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:38 craaaaack wrote:
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does.


What the man said.



No it does not.

Next time you play someone thats "even" with you, go check and see if his rating equals your own. Most of the time / 50% of the time it does not.

the rating is basically there to show you how "good" you are relative to others in your division, not between divisions. If you are 200 pts below somebody in your division, that person is 200 pts better than you. That does not apply if you are in separate divisions.

edit: proof (found by shinosai)
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23766800567&sid=5000&pageNo=2


RatherGood
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada147 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 17:57:44
May 07 2010 17:54 GMT
#30
I don't think this will catch on. That's like saying you good to a prestigious school, but telling everyone that you're not that exceptional (because very few have a really high rating, realistically, even though they might have a high rank). People would rather just say that they go to a prestigious school.

It's definitely a step up from just stating your ranking, but to be perfectly honest, I don't think your rank in beta should really bolster your credentials or add support to your argument. At the end of the day, everything should just be supported with good analysis, facts, and logic. Especially in beta with such a small pool of players, most inexperienced.
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
May 07 2010 17:59 GMT
#31
On May 08 2010 02:52 FortuneSyn wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 08 2010 02:38 craaaaack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does.



On May 08 2010 02:38 Talic_Zealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.

It is in fact the same. Since you are not playing people that are only in your division.


On May 08 2010 02:40 Kashll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does...


On May 08 2010 02:41 grubal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:40 Kashll wrote:
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does...


This is correct. I approve.


On May 08 2010 02:43 Alou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


1400 = 1400. You're not playing people in only your division so it is roughly the same. I mean some guy could hypothetically randomly get all the extremely good people, but it's honestly roughly the same.



On May 08 2010 02:46 eugen1225 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:38 craaaaack wrote:
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does.


What the man said.



No it does not.

Next time you play someone thats "even" with you, go check and see if his rating equals your own. Most of the time / 50% of the time it does not.

the rating is basically there to show you how "good" you are relative to others in your division, not between divisions. If you are 200 pts below somebody in your division, that person is 200 pts better than you. That does not apply if you are in separate divisions.

edit: proof (found by shinosai)
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23766800567&sid=5000&pageNo=2




But there's no way to go up in divisions, so 1400 == 1400
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 18:02:58
May 07 2010 18:02 GMT
#32
On May 08 2010 02:59 Snowfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:52 FortuneSyn wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 08 2010 02:38 craaaaack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does.



On May 08 2010 02:38 Talic_Zealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.

It is in fact the same. Since you are not playing people that are only in your division.


On May 08 2010 02:40 Kashll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does...


On May 08 2010 02:41 grubal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:40 Kashll wrote:
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does...


This is correct. I approve.


On May 08 2010 02:43 Alou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


1400 = 1400. You're not playing people in only your division so it is roughly the same. I mean some guy could hypothetically randomly get all the extremely good people, but it's honestly roughly the same.



On May 08 2010 02:46 eugen1225 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:38 craaaaack wrote:
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does.


What the man said.



No it does not.

Next time you play someone thats "even" with you, go check and see if his rating equals your own. Most of the time / 50% of the time it does not.

the rating is basically there to show you how "good" you are relative to others in your division, not between divisions. If you are 200 pts below somebody in your division, that person is 200 pts better than you. That does not apply if you are in separate divisions.

edit: proof (found by shinosai)
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23766800567&sid=5000&pageNo=2




But there's no way to go up in divisions, so 1400 == 1400


What an excellent piece of logic you have there.

reading skills: A+
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
May 07 2010 18:04 GMT
#33
On May 08 2010 02:52 FortuneSyn wrote:
No it does not.

Next time you play someone thats "even" with you, go check and see if his rating equals your own. Most of the time / 50% of the time it does not.

the rating is basically there to show you how "good" you are relative to others in your division, not between divisions. If you are 200 pts below somebody in your division, that person is 200 pts better than you. That does not apply if you are in separate divisions.

edit: proof (found by shinosai)
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23766800567&sid=5000&pageNo=2


I think the Blizzard poster in there may have mis-spoken.

Can you explain why they would be different? I can't figure it out. The only thing I can think of that would separate the divisions would be the length of time one player has over another in accruing bonus points. Apart from that, why wouldn't their rankings be basically relative to one another? Everyone plays outside his own division, so why would 1400 points earned in division 53 not be similar to 1400 points earned in division 54?

Your point about whether you are "even" with your opponent is irrelevant, as the favored system is almost certainly broken at the moment.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
May 07 2010 18:04 GMT
#34
On May 08 2010 02:41 grubal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:40 Kashll wrote:
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does...



This is correct. I approve.

How would you know? You don't even have the beta, just read your key-begging thread.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
May 07 2010 18:06 GMT
#35
I am sure eventually the idea of referring to one's skill level in the sense of rating over rank will be main stream. At the moment, though, people simply like being able to say to themselves that they are a "top 5 platinum" player as it sounds much better. It shouldn't last though. I suppose if the community begins criticizing people for using their rank as an indicator of skill level, we will eventually see it the other way.
The6357
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States1268 Posts
May 07 2010 18:07 GMT
#36
On May 08 2010 03:04 selboN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:41 grubal wrote:
On May 08 2010 02:40 Kashll wrote:
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does...



This is correct. I approve.

How would you know? You don't even have the beta, just read your key-begging thread.

harsh...
2010 worldcup!! corea fighting!!!
deo1
Profile Joined April 2010
United States199 Posts
May 07 2010 18:08 GMT
#37
On May 08 2010 02:36 Chill wrote:
i agree but i dont think you need to make a thread about this/


Of course you don't.
Poooooor Protoss.
zealing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada806 Posts
May 07 2010 18:08 GMT
#38
lol i love how many noobs on here are like "divisions mean nothing kekeke, div 1 is the same as 100"

no its not, stop saying it is, your wrong accept it and F10 S.
Think you got lag? It took Jesus 3 days to respawn.
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
May 07 2010 18:09 GMT
#39
On May 08 2010 03:04 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:52 FortuneSyn wrote:
No it does not.

Next time you play someone thats "even" with you, go check and see if his rating equals your own. Most of the time / 50% of the time it does not.

the rating is basically there to show you how "good" you are relative to others in your division, not between divisions. If you are 200 pts below somebody in your division, that person is 200 pts better than you. That does not apply if you are in separate divisions.

edit: proof (found by shinosai)
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23766800567&sid=5000&pageNo=2


I think the Blizzard poster in there may have mis-spoken.

Can you explain why they would be different? I can't figure it out. The only thing I can think of that would separate the divisions would be the length of time one player has over another in accruing bonus points. Apart from that, why wouldn't their rankings be basically relative to one another? Everyone plays outside his own division, so why would 1400 points earned in division 53 not be similar to 1400 points earned in division 54?

Your point about whether you are "even" with your opponent is irrelevant, as the favored system is almost certainly broken at the moment.


I don't see why we would assume the Blizzard poster would be wrong. They usually give us pretty accurate information, and if they don't, they generally correct it.

They would be different if every division existed in its own bubble, and gave points based on how well you were doing in comparison to your division rather than comparing yourself to the player base as a whole. Which is precisely what the blue poster implies when he says that points are not directly comparable between divisions.
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
May 07 2010 18:09 GMT
#40
On May 08 2010 03:04 selboN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 02:41 grubal wrote:
On May 08 2010 02:40 Kashll wrote:
On May 08 2010 02:36 FortuneSyn wrote:
It's a much better indication, but 1400 plat div54 still does not equal 1400 plat div1.


Yes it does...



This is correct. I approve.

How would you know? You don't even have the beta, just read your key-begging thread.


Grubal is on my friends list in beta. He has beta, assuming it is the same one.
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