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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
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Spek
Canada37 Posts
On March 24 2010 21:30 endGame wrote: Yeah. And what about people who sell human skulls for a living. Like those people who go and grab random people off the street and cut their heads off to sell their skulls. After all, some people like to have human skulls as their mantle piece, and to them, having that skull may entertain them. Oh you wanna argue that some people die from getting their heads cut off? Well its a known statistic that people who do drugs like heroine are more likely to do violent things and kill people or themselves. They are basically used, the same way head hunters 'use' their victims I could go on but basically my point is that we can keep taking this argument to the next degree or we can realize that there comes a point where you have to draw a line. Moral absolution would only lead us to ban any activity at all that may hurt someone, or to allow all activity that hurts someone. Its only a question of when is it too much. Your argument is invalid because skull hunters kill innocent people directly, whereas the drug dealers might be killing innocent people indirectly. | ||
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saritenite
Singapore1680 Posts
Over here in my part of the world we have the death sentence, your 11 years is nothing compared to what we have here. Whatever Inc said is true. Don't kill that guy, not worth it. Do your time and come back to TL in 11 years changed, we'll still be here. Might as well cover up your girlfriend and friends and take the fall for them, too, if you're feeling generous. You have a supporter. Just don't die on me now. Peace. | ||
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endGame
United States394 Posts
On March 24 2010 21:37 Spek wrote: Your argument is invalid because skull hunters kill innocent people directly, whereas the drug dealers might be killing innocent people indirectly. I see your point. Lets make it "skull dealers" then. Or even skull collectors maybe. | ||
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ProoM
Lithuania1741 Posts
a) and run to Mexico/Panama. b) get a good lawyer, you will probably get ~6 years, will let you out after 4 if you don't do anything stupid. | ||
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
On March 24 2010 21:31 BaltA wrote: That sucks for you my friend, I wish you the best in the future! I hope when ur out of prison you will learn something. It's a hard and risky bisuness(or how you spell it), and too bad for you, police 14 nexsues you and won the game  I have to agree with Incontrol here, how can you talk about fotball players and drug dealers? Fotball players do 1 thing: play fotball, without knowing they may contribute to kill a person, a drug dealer does. He knows what he sells will kill a person.. "Everyone needs money", sure, but why not working as a gardener, or whatever legally and you may actually get something. There comes nothing positive out of going against the law, that's the way it is. That's why we have the police. Drug dealing as a "job" is BULLSHIT! That can not be a job, it can be a hobby sure, but a job? comeone Drugs can kill people, but it is purposely misleading to say that they will kill someone. How is drug dealing not a job? He is providing a service and receiving payment in return, which = a job. Nothing positive out of going against the law? Gandhi? Rosa parks? Protecting Jews in WW2? While he may not be as upstanding as those, your use of absolutes is incredibly short-sighted. | ||
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MaReK
Australia446 Posts
On March 24 2010 21:31 BaltA wrote: "Everyone needs money", sure, but why not working as a gardener, or whatever legally and you may actually get something. There comes nothing positive out of going against the law, that's the way it is. That's why we have the police. Drug dealing as a "job" is BULLSHIT! That can not be a job, it can be a hobby sure, but a job? comeone Gardening won't get you x (huge) amount of dollars. Drug dealing will, and that's the risk he took to try and get a large sum of money. That risk is not worth it for me, but I CAN completely understand the motivation to sell drugs in the first place. Unfortunately for him, he got caught and is -maybe- being imprisoned for far, far, far too long. | ||
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fly.stat
United States449 Posts
Don't know if I would flee or take prison time... I think if he leaked information for less jail time he'd be killed when he got out, according to all the drug movies/stories I've seen and heard. My adventurous side makes me want to run to some far off place, where I honestly think they'd stop giving a fuck about you. It's crazy this shit actually happens to people. All I can say to OP is gl hf. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
Disregarding the obvious mockery though, i'll reply to the last paragraph; I could go on but basically my point is that we can keep taking this argument to the next degree or we can realize that there comes a point where you have to draw a line. Moral absolution would only lead us to ban any activity at all that may hurt someone, or to allow all activity that hurts someone. Its only a question of when is it too much. The drawn line is a grey area, that is my whole point. People always like to bring their moral values as some kind of absolute law when in reality, people have different mentalities and moral outlooks, and especially when from different class/social status. When you come to a place as diverse and an internet forum you've gotta understand that, and realize that everything you think, or think you know is not always the way it should be. Just because it so happens that current laws dictate and back up your thoughts, doesn't mean it's correct. In 50 or 100 years who knows how society will view it, how moral standards change, or even how the justice system deals with it. People are just so closed minded. I mean the OP obviously fucked up and got busted. He is pretty emotionally unstable right now, and maybe saying some shit he doesn't intend or mean, and he felt like sharing it here (which was stupid imo but whatever). But that doesn't mean we should just call him the scum of the earth and hope he get's what he deserves. I mean he's already in deep shit, why you gotta make it worse for him when he's obviously asking for some advice or help or even just venting. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
There are other things you can do in prison too- master an instrument or a foreign language etc. | ||
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
"11 years for meditation, master an instrument or a foreign language" This has got to be a joke >.< | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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Dr.Lettuce
United Kingdom663 Posts
In all honesty man, and I think you know this as well, but don't want to accept it. Do the time. Every big player in the game has the fantasy, of playing, using their brain and getting out before it gets too hot. Rarely happens. I think you're out of options man, fleeing the country probably wouldn't work initially and I'm fairly sure you wouldn't get through the airport anyway on a drug deal warrant, even if you did. You'd be looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life. I've seen people like that first hand, it eats them up inside. Killing the rat would make you feel better for a while. But after you wake up in a prison cell on your 50th birthday and forget what a womans touch is like I think you may regret that decision. You're not an idiot, you played the game and lost. Do the time, you have one asset most drug dealers don't, a brain. Use it. Reduce the charges against you, work a deal. But be very very careful about ratting people out your self. Less rational people in the game may not think that far in to the future and probably value human life a lot less than yourself. | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
Anyways, you should be safe over here with our joke of a police force. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32084 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On March 24 2010 21:03 CharlieMurphy wrote: Like really, you believe that the 'scum of the earth' are drug dealers? Are you fucking retarded? What about rapists, murderers, serial killers, fucking Somalian gangs who kidnap kids and raise them as soldiers, fucking corrupt politicians, like I can literally think of countless things that are far worse than drug dealers. Calling them the scum of the earth and agreeing that he should just do his hard time like it's standard is just absurd. It's really fucking easy to say shit like that when you live in a sheltered life. It might seem on the surface that drug dealers are not 'as bad' as those, but one issue that I can't ignore is that it's long term. The drug problem is going to live on because of people like this enabling it, destroying lives, society, people's futures and having a large negative influence. On March 24 2010 21:20 CharlieMurphy wrote: like hey, I could say American Football is fucking stupid. And people who watch it are a fucking disgusting. I could even see the world as a better place if it never existed. With all that wasted time of people trying to make it into the NFL, playing sports, whatever, they could actually learn something valuable for society, that actually contribute something other than mindless entertainment. Because after all, that's what drugs are, entertainment. Fuck football, anyone who plays it is fucking scum of the earth and should go to prison because I'd never play it and hate people who do, or even people who watch it. Oh you wanna argue that people die from drugs? Well how bout the well known statistic that football players have far shorter lives than that of normal people? Some of these guys even leave the league with permanent chronic injuries and end up broke a few years afterwords. They are basically used, in the same way drug dealers 'use' their drug buyers. I could go on, but basically my point is that being a drug dealer is just another profession, just because you don't like it, or think it's bad, doesn't mean you should demonize it and be so quick to judge. Some people think it's good or that there is nothing wrong with it. Just because you conform with the possible majority or the government or the white collar public who doesn't know anything but what they media shows them about it doesn't mean it's right. Complete nonsense. If you want to look at it in a net positive/negative influence then do that, don't just pick one 'negative' aspect of it, exaggerate it, and call it as bad as drug dealing. Sports employ the players, who might have had no drive or ability to excel any way but athletically. They entertain people when entertainment is necessary - it doesn't have to be a mindless waste of time when you just want to unwind on a weekend (which is when sport is shown on TV). OK it can be dangerous but it also promotes a fit, active lifestyle and you run similar risks of injury on a daily basis. etc. etc. etc. no matter how you look at it or what moral code you abide by, drugs are a net negative influence and a disservice to the world and undoes a lot of the things people work hard to improve. | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36379 Posts
But until the OP provides some sort of proof for his story, we're assuming its false and closing this. Cheers. | ||
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