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On March 24 2010 20:53 CharlieMurphy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2010 20:43 Conquest101 wrote:On March 24 2010 20:38 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I do a lot of editing of my posts, i shouldn't cause people tend to quote them before I finished what I was saying. And how does that make your point? You say: Put yourself in his shoes. If you were a drug dealer and some ass ratted you out, would you go down quietly or would save yourself somehow. Paraphrasing. I say: No, that's disgusting. I say: Put yourself in the shoes of the "rat". Your life is being threatened. You might be killed. Do you go down quietly or do you save yourself somehow. You say: No, that's disgusting. Sigh. that's not even the same thing at all. Being a drug dealer or labeled as a drug dealer is entirely different than ratting out a friend to save your own neck. And what you were saying was that you would never be a drug dealer. What I was saying, is what IF you were, ofc you would be trying to find ways out of going to prison, like who the fuck wants to go to prison. Regardless that you can't see yourself being a drug dealer. A rat on the other hand is just a weakminded/pussy mentality. A state of mind. You can't really imagine yourself in a mentality that isn't your own. However you are always yourself, no matter where you go or what you do. That is what I meant. And cops/detectives don't threaten death to squealers wtf? They make up bullshit stories and lie to you to get you to sign confessions and point fingers because they are brainwashed into thinking they are doing a great service to humanity or win their bonus checks or awards.
You can't imagine being a rat.
I can't imagine being a drug dealer.
Fair enough?
On March 24 2010 19:57 ghermination wrote:
We pushed him around a little and when he wouldn't tell us where the shit was i got my dealer on the line and he told the little faggot he would kill him if he didn't tell us. The guy wouldn't say so we left and went back to my house.
Not the cops. Straight from the horses mouth so to speak.
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If you had lived in norway, you would have been rich now! you can drive into a shop and steal everything in the middle of the day without being caught r0fl.
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ah fuck >.<
should just join the french foreign legion and hope u come out alive and become a french citizen^^ lol
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Go to Croatia if you can. And do it ASAP.
Just don't kill anyone, once a murder is done things are really serious and can't be turned back.
11years in jail for drugs means actually half, after you'll be freed on parole.
However, jail time can eat your life and kill you slowly. That's why i suggest to go to croatia.
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Well, thanks for sharing. Very interesting.
Firstly, killing is not the best choice. Killing is cowardly. Wait years, then if you still feel the need for revenge, take it. Destroy him, but don't kill. Revenge is an art.
Secondly, running from the law is very difficult. Do you really want to live anyplace other than your home, America? If you decide to run, you better be a damn smart man. It's going to be fucking hard.
Personally, I think jail time is the best option. You probably won't be in there for 11 years. Think single digits. It's not too bad. They can lock you up, but they can't take your mind.
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No, I'm saying that anyone who deals drugs isn't the scum of the earth. It doesn't matter if you're poor or rich to begin with, it just so happens that lower and middle class people are more often found to be drug dealers, and that richer people are the first ones to point out how bad they are. Don't you think that's a little biased? It's really easy to disagree with something if you've never actually experienced it personally.
Like really, you believe that the 'scum of the earth' are drug dealers? Are you fucking retarded? What about rapists, murderers, serial killers, fucking Somalian gangs who kidnap kids and raise them as soldiers, fucking corrupt politicians, like I can literally think of countless things that are far worse than drug dealers. Calling them the scum of the earth and agreeing that he should just do his hard time like it's standard is just absurd. It's really fucking easy to say shit like that when you live in a sheltered life.
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I really don't know about Hvar. Last year drug dealers on the Island of Hvar were a very hot topic. The entire police squad was replaced.
If you come here and plan to make a new life without drugs, feel free to contact me or any other fellow TL member, but if you plan to take just 1 gram of any shit you used to do in the past, i'll be the next one to turn you in.
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On March 24 2010 20:53 CharlieMurphy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2010 20:43 Conquest101 wrote:On March 24 2010 20:38 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I do a lot of editing of my posts, i shouldn't cause people tend to quote them before I finished what I was saying. And how does that make your point? You say: Put yourself in his shoes. If you were a drug dealer and some ass ratted you out, would you go down quietly or would save yourself somehow. Paraphrasing. I say: No, that's disgusting. I say: Put yourself in the shoes of the "rat". Your life is being threatened. You might be killed. Do you go down quietly or do you save yourself somehow. You say: No, that's disgusting. Sigh. that's not even the same thing at all. Being a drug dealer or labeled as a drug dealer is entirely different than ratting out a friend to save your own neck. And what you were saying was that you would never be a drug dealer. What I was saying, is what IF you were, ofc you would be trying to find ways out of going to prison, like who the fuck wants to go to prison. Regardless that you can't see yourself being a drug dealer. A rat on the other hand is just a weakminded/pussy mentality. A state of mind. You can't really imagine yourself in a mentality that isn't your own. However you are always yourself, no matter where you go or what you do. That is what I meant. And cops/detectives don't threaten death to squealers wtf? They make up bullshit stories and lie to you to get you to sign confessions and point fingers because they are brainwashed into thinking they are doing a great service to humanity or win their bonus checks or awards.
The "rat" was threatened with getting killed if he didn't tell them where the stuff was. I reckon that they used some force when threatening, if they don't shy away from telling him they're going to kill him.
How is being a "rat" bad by the way? Yes, in this case the person who squeeled was a weak person, who couldn't controll his urges and took the easy way out. However, when you see someone doing something illegal, getting the police involved is way better than looking the other way.
The world gets raped because enough people look the other way or feel to intimidated to do something about the corrupt and illegal things that they see happen around them.
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On March 24 2010 21:03 CharlieMurphy wrote: Like really, you believe that the 'scum of the earth' are drug dealers? Are you fucking retarded? What about rapists, murderers, serial killers, fucking Somalian gangs who kidnap kids and raise them as soldiers, fucking corrupt politicians, like I can literally think of countless things that are far worse than drug dealers. Calling them the scum of the earth and agreeing that he should just do his hard time like it's standard is just absurd. It's really fucking easy to say shit like that when you live in a sheltered life.
+1
My thoughts exactly....couldn't of written it better myself.
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On March 24 2010 21:03 CharlieMurphy wrote:
No, I'm saying that anyone who deals drugs isn't the scum of the earth. It doesn't matter if you're poor or rich to begin with, it just so happens that lower and middle class people are more often found to be drug dealers, and that richer people are the first ones to point out how bad they are.
Like really, you believe that the 'scum of the earth' are drug dealers? Are you fucking retarded? What about rapists, murderers, serial killers, fucking Somalian gangs who kidnap kids and raise them as soldiers, fucking corrupt politicians, like I can literally think of countless things that are far worse than drug dealers. Calling them the scum of the earth and agreeing that he should just do his hard time like it's standard is just absurd. It's really fucking easy to say shit like that when you live in a sheltered life.
They are scum too lol
Charlie you are almost not worth talking to because you have such fucked up logic patterns but o well, we do it anyways.
Yep a rapist is worse, for me. yep a murderer is worse. Yep dictators are more evil. But that doesn't mean this guy, isn't a douche for making a living off of peddling life degrading addictive shit? I'm tired of people making excuses for people that clearly live a leeching life on a huge scale. He was pushing terrible material and you want to make stupid fucking generalizations like "there are worse people" and "rich people are the first to criticize" who gives a fuck what socio economic background you have.. the guy is CLEARLY an ass? It isn't like he turned to a life of crime to get his gramma the cancer treatment she needed or some shit.. he wanted money so he took the easy way out and it caught up to him. End of discussion.
God damn charlie.. you HAVE to be a character of some sort.
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Personally I think you should be sent to jail. You broke the law...it is that plain and simple. I am sorry your life is falling apart around you...I can't imagine how you feel right now, but you did put yourself in this situation.
I think there is a time where you just have to face the music (I know this is easy for me to say not being in your situation) but like people were saying... plead guilty, be good while in jail, show them you want to better yourself while in, and you might be able to get out decently fast.
This would give you a chance to start over with a clean slate man. Do your time, clean yourself up, and in just a couple of years you could be out and leading a free life again. Anyways, good luck with whatever ends up happening and try to look 5 years down the road and pick the option that puts you in the best place!
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and here we go with the "sheltered life" generalization too. Those assumptions are absurd and bad as well.
Did I grow up in compton? Nope. But I did have a single parent household where we moved 6 times in 3 years and had our house foreclosed a few times. I've seen more of my friends through rehab and suicide watch than I want to count. I've had to fill out witness reports for my coked out friend's arrest a few times in my life. Does that make me some kind of ultimate authority? No more than you.. but the difference is I look at these scenarios and think "there has to be a better way. This is bad." And you think "oh ok he had to do that cause life was hard."
Don't even get me started on your lil rant about "normal life" on the previous page. Knocking people that pursue a college degree and a family in the name of drug dealing? Fuck you.
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If this guy can rat you out without any consequences from the dealer/supplier network, then you can rat your supplier in exchange for fewer prison years. If you can't rat your supplier because then the supplier will fuck your friends over (like in movies), then why doesn't he fuck that dude over that ratted on you?
Also, you can see 11 years in prison as practice time vs the cpu. Ask nony how you can get most out of it.
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like hey, I could say American Football is fucking stupid. And people who watch it are a fucking disgusting. I could even see the world as a better place if it never existed. With all that wasted time of people trying to make it into the NFL, playing sports, whatever, they could actually learn something valuable for society, that actually contribute something other than mindless entertainment. Because after all, that's what drugs are, entertainment. Fuck football, anyone who plays it is fucking scum of the earth and should go to prison because I'd never play it and hate people who do, or even people who watch it.
Oh you wanna argue that people die from drugs? Well how bout the well known statistic that football players have far shorter lives than that of normal people? Some of these guys even leave the league with permanent chronic injuries and end up broke a few years afterwords. They are basically used, in the same way drug dealers 'use' their drug buyers.
I could go on, but basically my point is that being a drug dealer is just another profession, just because you don't like it, or think it's bad, doesn't mean you should demonize it and be so quick to judge. Some people think it's good or that there is nothing wrong with it. Just because you conform with the possible majority or the government or the white collar public who doesn't know anything but what they media shows them about it doesn't mean it's right.
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Hell, you played a dangerous game and you lost. Simple as that.You can either run or face the music.
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On March 24 2010 21:23 Osmoses wrote:
Hell, you played a dangerous game and you lost. Simple as that.You can either run or face the music.
Well obviously. That's what we've been discussing: his best option.
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On March 24 2010 21:20 CharlieMurphy wrote:
like hey, I could say American Football is fucking stupid. And people who watch it are a fucking disgusting. I could even see the world as a better place if it never existed. With all that wasted time of people trying to make it into the NFL, playing sports, whatever, they could actually learn something valuable for society, that actually contribute something other than mindless entertainment. Because after all, that's what drugs are, entertainment. Fuck football, anyone who plays it is fucking scum of the earth and should go to prison because I'd never play it and hate people who do, or even people who watch it.
Oh you wanna argue that people die from drugs? Well how bout the well known statistic that football players have far shorter lives than that of normal people? Some of these guys even leave the league with permanent chronic injuries and end up broke a few years afterwords. They are basically used, in the same way drug dealers 'use' their drug buyers.
I could go on, but basically my point is that being a drug dealer is just another profession, just because you don't like it, or think it's bad, doesn't mean you should demonize it and be so quick to judge. Some people think it's good or that there is nothing wrong with it. Just because you conform with the possible majority or the government or the white collar public who doesn't know anything but what they media shows them about it doesn't mean it's right.
Yeah. And what about people who sell human skulls for a living. Like those people who go and grab random people off the street and cut their heads off to sell their skulls. After all, some people like to have human skulls as their mantle piece, and to them, having that skull may entertain them.
Oh you wanna argue that some people die from getting their heads cut off? Well its a known statistic that people who do drugs like heroine are more likely to do violent things and kill people or themselves. They are basically used, the same way head hunters 'use' their victims
I could go on but basically my point is that we can keep taking this argument to the next degree or we can realize that there comes a point where you have to draw a line. Moral absolution would only lead us to ban any activity at all that may hurt someone, or to allow all activity that hurts someone. Its only a question of when is it too much.
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That sucks for you my friend, I wish you the best in the future! I hope when ur out of prison you will learn something. It's a hard and risky bisuness(or how you spell it), and too bad for you, police 14 nexsues you and won the game 
I have to agree with Incontrol here, how can you talk about fotball players and drug dealers? Fotball players do 1 thing: play fotball, without knowing they may contribute to kill a person, a drug dealer does. He knows what he sells will kill a person..
"Everyone needs money", sure, but why not working as a gardener, or whatever legally and you may actually get something. There comes nothing positive out of going against the law, that's the way it is. That's why we have the police.
Drug dealing as a "job" is BULLSHIT! That can not be a job, it can be a hobby sure, but a job? comeone
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As for killing the guy, I'd say no, from what you've told us you didn't really seem that close and you blaming all your misfortune on him is cowardly and stupid.
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Eh you should have expected it to happen soon or latter =(
Back to Croatia dude...
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