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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
March 24 2010 11:33 GMT
#61
Just dropping in to say I don't feel any sympathy for you. None at all.
Drug dealers destroy other people's lives. I can't understand how some posters advise ghermination to flee and start over somewhere else, unpunished after all his misdeeds.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-24 11:37:35
March 24 2010 11:35 GMT
#62
On March 24 2010 20:30 Conquest101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2010 20:23 CharlieMurphy wrote:
it's so easy for people to say "fuck you drug dealer scum, rot in prison, do your time" but say they were in his situation would just give in and do it so easily? I mean we are talking about your life here, it would be even more worthless than it already is. and you can't take it back, prison is not an easy place either. REALLY fucking bad shit happens in there, and often times people come out worse then they started out.


Imagine myself in his situation? Why the hell would I ever be in his situation? I couldn't imagine doing something as low as dealing drugs. I'm sorry. But no. The people who say that probably CAN'T imagine themselves in that situation.

Put yourself in the shoes of the "rat" who's life was threatened earlier. Wouldn't you do the same thing?

No, I wouldn't sell someone out for my own gain. People like you probably would though, that's fucking disgusting.

Also, that argument was exactly what I was expecting from someone like you "Oh i'd never do that cause im a goody two shoes, blah blah". That's not what I told you to imagine. I said imagine that you had been in a house, with all that shit and some fucker pinned it all on you. Regardless if it was yours or not.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
March 24 2010 11:35 GMT
#63
On March 24 2010 19:40 MyHeroNoob wrote:
Why did he rat you out? o_O


Good luck bro...

-__-
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
March 24 2010 11:37 GMT
#64
protoss players are more likely to be drug dealers
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
March 24 2010 11:37 GMT
#65
On March 24 2010 20:35 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2010 20:30 Conquest101 wrote:
On March 24 2010 20:23 CharlieMurphy wrote:
it's so easy for people to say "fuck you drug dealer scum, rot in prison, do your time" but say they were in his situation would just give in and do it so easily? I mean we are talking about your life here, it would be even more worthless than it already is. and you can't take it back, prison is not an easy place either. REALLY fucking bad shit happens in there, and often times people come out worse then they started out.


Imagine myself in his situation? Why the hell would I ever be in his situation? I couldn't imagine doing something as low as dealing drugs. I'm sorry. But no. The people who say that probably CAN'T imagine themselves in that situation.

Put yourself in the shoes of the "rat" who's life was threatened earlier. Wouldn't you do the same thing?

No, I wouldn't sell someone out for my own gain. People like you probably would though, that's fucking disgusting.


Thanks for making my point.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-24 11:39:07
March 24 2010 11:38 GMT
#66
I do a lot of editing of my posts, i shouldn't cause people tend to quote them before I finished what I was saying. And how does that make your point?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 24 2010 11:40 GMT
#67
On March 24 2010 20:38 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I do a lot of editing of my posts, i shouldn't cause people tend to quote them before I finished what I was saying. And how does that make your point?


You should do a mental editing process cause you MIGHT catch HALF the stupid shit you say.

Charlie arguing for the plight of drug dealers doesn't shock me the least bit.

Grow the fuck up charlie. Everything isn't a theme to a movie.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
March 24 2010 11:42 GMT
#68
oh yea cause everyone should be born with a silver spoon in their mouth, play for the local sports teams, get good grades, and go to college, right? Then graduate, get a good job, have a wife and 2 kids with a picket fence, and a good 9-5, and live a fairy tale.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
March 24 2010 11:42 GMT
#69
On March 24 2010 20:30 Conquest101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2010 20:23 CharlieMurphy wrote:
it's so easy for people to say "fuck you drug dealer scum, rot in prison, do your time" but say they were in his situation would just give in and do it so easily? I mean we are talking about your life here, it would be even more worthless than it already is. and you can't take it back, prison is not an easy place either. REALLY fucking bad shit happens in there, and often times people come out worse then they started out.


Imagine myself in his situation? Why the hell would I ever be in his situation? I couldn't imagine doing something as low as dealing drugs. I'm sorry. But no. The people who say that probably CAN'T imagine themselves in that situation.

Put yourself in the shoes of the "rat" who's life was threatened earlier. Wouldn't you do the same thing?

Something "as low" as dealing dealing drugs? Who are you the fucking Pope? People like drugs, and need some way to acquire them.
J- Pirate Udyr WW T- Pirate Riven Galio M- Galio Annie S- Sona Lux -- Always farm, never carry.
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-24 11:44:48
March 24 2010 11:43 GMT
#70
On March 24 2010 20:38 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I do a lot of editing of my posts, i shouldn't cause people tend to quote them before I finished what I was saying. And how does that make your point?


You say: Put yourself in his shoes. If you were a drug dealer and some ass ratted you out, would you go down quietly or would save yourself somehow. Paraphrasing.

I say: No, that's disgusting.

I say: Put yourself in the shoes of the "rat". Your life is being threatened. You might be killed. Do you go down quietly or do you save yourself somehow.

You say: No, that's disgusting.

Sigh.

endGame
Profile Joined June 2009
United States394 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-24 11:48:02
March 24 2010 11:45 GMT
#71
On March 24 2010 20:40 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2010 20:38 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I do a lot of editing of my posts, i shouldn't cause people tend to quote them before I finished what I was saying. And how does that make your point?


You should do a mental editing process cause you MIGHT catch HALF the stupid shit you say.

Charlie arguing for the plight of drug dealers doesn't shock me the least bit.

Grow the fuck up charlie. Everything isn't a theme to a movie.


It's not that he wouldn't argue just as well for the victims of the drug dealer either. But he's got a point that people who are easily dismissing this guy as some "dirty evil drug dealer" aren't fully recognizing the situation. Often we attach these sorts of evil connotations to people who deal drugs as absolutely people who ruin lives and debase our subjective ideal society. Don't get me wrong, I subscribe to that same ideal society, and I'm not trying to argue that the guy was good and virtuous either, but there is some empathy that can be shown for another human being that's facing a great deal of suffering in his immediate future and I believe that's what Charlie is trying to display.

Edit: Grammar
"...As the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must." -Thucydides
meaculpa
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States119 Posts
March 24 2010 11:46 GMT
#72
Even though I am inclined to say you deserve what you'll get, I hope you won't have to run into Big
Bubba during your stint in prison.
Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
March 24 2010 11:47 GMT
#73
On March 24 2010 20:42 seppolevne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2010 20:30 Conquest101 wrote:
On March 24 2010 20:23 CharlieMurphy wrote:
it's so easy for people to say "fuck you drug dealer scum, rot in prison, do your time" but say they were in his situation would just give in and do it so easily? I mean we are talking about your life here, it would be even more worthless than it already is. and you can't take it back, prison is not an easy place either. REALLY fucking bad shit happens in there, and often times people come out worse then they started out.


Imagine myself in his situation? Why the hell would I ever be in his situation? I couldn't imagine doing something as low as dealing drugs. I'm sorry. But no. The people who say that probably CAN'T imagine themselves in that situation.

Put yourself in the shoes of the "rat" who's life was threatened earlier. Wouldn't you do the same thing?

Something "as low" as dealing dealing drugs? Who are you the fucking Pope? People like drugs, and need some way to acquire them.


Yes, because everyone who doesn't like drug dealers must have be the Pope.
imweakless
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
757 Posts
March 24 2010 11:47 GMT
#74
Good luck bro..
KMK,Qri,GsD#1, UEE,stork jangbi for life!
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
March 24 2010 11:52 GMT
#75
only advice to give you now is gooodluck which isnt even advice =/. You really cant do anything at this point that will make it any better for you. You can try to get the other guy in for sure but that is about it, remember not to talk to the police specifically about incidents =p they just skew it later.~~
troi oi thang map nai!!!
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
March 24 2010 11:52 GMT
#76
If you can run to another country, do it.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-24 11:54:49
March 24 2010 11:53 GMT
#77
On March 24 2010 20:43 Conquest101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2010 20:38 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I do a lot of editing of my posts, i shouldn't cause people tend to quote them before I finished what I was saying. And how does that make your point?


You say: Put yourself in his shoes. If you were a drug dealer and some ass ratted you out, would you go down quietly or would save yourself somehow. Paraphrasing.

I say: No, that's disgusting.

I say: Put yourself in the shoes of the "rat". Your life is being threatened. You might be killed. Do you go down quietly or do you save yourself somehow.

You say: No, that's disgusting.

Sigh.


that's not even the same thing at all. Being a drug dealer or labeled as a drug dealer is entirely different than ratting out a friend to save your own neck.

And what you were saying was that you would never be a drug dealer. What I was saying, is what IF you were, ofc you would be trying to find ways out of going to prison, like who the fuck wants to go to prison. Regardless that you can't see yourself being a drug dealer.

A rat on the other hand is just a weakminded/pussy mentality. A state of mind. You can't really imagine yourself in a mentality that isn't your own. However you are always yourself, no matter where you go or what you do. That is what I meant.

And cops/detectives don't threaten death to squealers wtf? They make up bullshit stories and lie to you to get you to sign confessions and point fingers because they are brainwashed into thinking they are doing a great service to humanity or win their bonus checks or awards.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-24 12:00:16
March 24 2010 11:55 GMT
#78
Hummm... I don't really know what to say... there was a great blog posted here a few months ago also about a drug dealer in NYC that got out just in time. If you've got time to kill, go read it. Here it is:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=111073 I don't know if it's true or not, but maybe it will help you make a decision? I know there is revenge in there, but the point is, the dude stopped dealing, and that's what I think you should do also.
Thinking about your choices, if you think rationally, the answer is to do the time as the saying goes "don't do the crime, if you can't do the time".
I'd personally be scared shitless, and run from the country and never come back.
If you want to kill the dude, it's your choice. I honestly have no idea what I'd do, but I'd probably beat him to a bloody pulp or break a few of his bones, but I don't know if I'd go as far as to kill him. You'd be labeled a murderer for the rest of your life, if not by the whole society, then by yourself. Think about what you're doing, if you need any more trouble right now.

If you have a guilty conscience, it may be better to not follow the 1st instinct which is to run. If you'd run you'd be on the run forever, always looking behind you,if someone is following you.

You'll probably do 5-6-7 years out of those 11 if you stay, plead guilty, show remorse etc.

Whatever you choose, good luck!
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
DanteStyle
Profile Joined July 2008
Belgium73 Posts
March 24 2010 11:55 GMT
#79
so what charlie is saying is everyone who has a shitty life should be excused from dealing drugs? cool
i hate vgl-rage
MaReK
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Australia446 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-24 11:56:23
March 24 2010 11:55 GMT
#80
Goodluck bro. I honestly have no idea what I'd do in your situation. If going to another country is feasible, I would be inclined to take that route...



EDIT: do not want to start a debate on how wrong and stupid the war on drugs is
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