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Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 19:06:24
March 21 2010 19:05 GMT
#1
I REALLY need to upgrade my computer to play, I get a whole 10 FPS right now! hah.

I bought a new video card, a GeForce 9400 GT 1GB, so that should help a lot, since my video card was the main issue (256mb ONBOARD card haha).. but I want to know how much ram most people are running SC2 at. I just want to run it smoothly on the lowest settings possible so I can play competitively =[

I have 2GB right now, but since im significantly broke I dont know if I can afford more, unless its absolutely necessary.

How many of you are running SC2 with just 2GB of ram? Does it run smoothly for you?

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Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 19:07:45
March 21 2010 19:07 GMT
#2
Im currently running it at 2GB RAM (1GB broke t.t) but it runs smoothly anyway : )

only time it lags is when my computer has been on for like 2 weeks
trickser
Profile Joined October 2006
Germany139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 19:07:57
March 21 2010 19:07 GMT
#3
its running smoothly for me on lowest graphics and resolution. Got a laptop with only 2GB ram and a GForce 6400.
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ScrapUSA
Profile Joined February 2010
United States37 Posts
March 21 2010 19:07 GMT
#4
I am using 2GB of ram myself, and I can run the game perfectly fine on high settings. (8800 GTS as my video card). Assuming the rest of your cpu is fine and dandy, you should be good.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8085 Posts
March 21 2010 19:08 GMT
#5
i run on 2gb of ram, it's fine.
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DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
March 21 2010 19:09 GMT
#6
I'm using one gig of ram and it lags like crazy :/
gonna get some ram tomorrow
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Loverman
Profile Joined September 2007
Romania266 Posts
March 21 2010 19:10 GMT
#7
2 gb here as well works fine on med settings.
Feefee
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada556 Posts
March 21 2010 19:12 GMT
#8
I'm on a lappy with pentium M 1.86GHz, 2 gigs of ram and geforce 6600 go and I get about 25FPS lowest settings 1680x1050. If you're running at 10FPS on lowest settings with that kind of a vid card something else is wrong. I can't imagine your CPU being worse than mine either..
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
March 21 2010 19:14 GMT
#9
I don't think you'd notice a lack of ram in the overall framerate during the game. Unless you are super concerned about loading times (and even then 2gb are enough if you don't have lots of other applications loaded), ram shouldn't be a big concern for you.

I can run max settings smoothly on 2gb.

If you are concerned about your framerate, there is a big thread here with guidelines. As long as your graphics card is not very old, you are fine. My HD 4800 series does about 40-60fps depending on the game situation.
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
March 21 2010 19:18 GMT
#10
2 gig ram should run SC2 fine i think ? Im just using 2
Sc2ggRise
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States607 Posts
March 21 2010 19:22 GMT
#11
i have 8GB of ram... works pretty good maybe a little overkill, but i use up to 75% of it when commentating/processing because of all the crap i have open.

i have an 8800GT (512mb) that i'm hopefully upgrading to a 4870x2 (waiting to hear back from guy selling it) and the 8800GT does a good job of playing it with everything near-max (some things not on ultra tho) but the 4870x2 will allow me to go full AND fraps it.

ram is really cheap these days, i'd say its worth picking some up. sounds like your system is probably DDR2 so you could pick it up for as low as maybe 30 bucks a stick. you should look for it used on a hardware forum if you're especially broke since you'll get some sick deals that way.
7
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1218 Posts
March 21 2010 19:24 GMT
#12
I have 4GB, with a few minor programs open in the back, and my RAM always shoots up to 75%+ mid game.
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tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
March 21 2010 19:25 GMT
#13
2GB ram works fine for me. I play on lowest settings anyway.
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Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
March 21 2010 19:25 GMT
#14
I went from 2GB to 4GB. After buying 5770 it felt like I was bottlenecked by the RAM. Definitely good call.
qwsss
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada36 Posts
March 21 2010 19:28 GMT
#15
I run it with 2GB of ram. Of course all my settings are on low but I almost never lag.
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-sTym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany3 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 19:36:10
March 21 2010 19:35 GMT
#16
1GB - Middle settings , working fine just loading semi long
CagedMind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States506 Posts
March 21 2010 19:35 GMT
#17
On March 22 2010 04:05 Skyze wrote:
I REALLY need to upgrade my computer to play, I get a whole 10 FPS right now! hah.

I bought a new video card, a GeForce 9400 GT 1GB, so that should help a lot, since my video card was the main issue (256mb ONBOARD card haha).. but I want to know how much ram most people are running SC2 at. I just want to run it smoothly on the lowest settings possible so I can play competitively =[

I have 2GB right now, but since im significantly broke I dont know if I can afford more, unless its absolutely necessary.

How many of you are running SC2 with just 2GB of ram? Does it run smoothly for you?


You have a whole gig graph memory? Normally it seem as though its better buying a earlier series then buying a low end card of a series. Could of spent money for graph memory for better card in series.
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Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 19:45:55
March 21 2010 19:43 GMT
#18
I have 6GB RAM and the game runs very smoothly. I can run everything on Ultra without much issues (>60 FPS), as a reference, after I double click the Starcraft-shortcut it only takes 5 seconds until the game is fully loaded, which includes the time the game takes to initialize and the loading bar.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
March 21 2010 19:45 GMT
#19
ram isn't the most important thing for sc2 (when compared with other games) the GPU and CPU are.
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
March 21 2010 19:50 GMT
#20
ram won't be a problem for games unless you have like 512mb ram.
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
March 21 2010 19:53 GMT
#21
On March 22 2010 04:50 Chairman Ray wrote:
ram won't be a problem for games unless you have like 512mb ram.


well the speed might matter ? not sure if it changed much from ddr to ddr3 . but anyways if you have 1 or 2 gig you most likely have next gen ram anyway
zealing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada806 Posts
March 21 2010 19:59 GMT
#22
i got a 2g stick but im looking to buy another, 4g's imo would kick some ass
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member1987
Profile Joined February 2010
141 Posts
March 21 2010 20:02 GMT
#23
anything more than 2gb is overkill right now, for any game and not just for SC2.
Having additional ram only benefits you when you want to have several programs opened like winamp, fraps, some image viewer, etc... and play sc2 on top of that.

Most important thing is your graphic card. 9400GT isn't really good, though its still much better than onboard graphics.
lgd-haze
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden547 Posts
March 21 2010 20:03 GMT
#24
1.5 gig ram T_T Lags a bit during huge battles, but runs smoothly for most of the time
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Southpaw
Profile Joined February 2010
United States39 Posts
March 21 2010 20:03 GMT
#25
I have 2gb RAM and run on Ultra settings. No fps issues except maybe the first 5 seconds of the game. 40-60 fps.
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
March 21 2010 20:04 GMT
#26
On March 22 2010 04:08 Ideas wrote:
i run on 2gb of ram, it's fine.


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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
March 21 2010 20:04 GMT
#27
On March 22 2010 04:53 Marradron wrote:
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On March 22 2010 04:50 Chairman Ray wrote:
ram won't be a problem for games unless you have like 512mb ram.


well the speed might matter ? not sure if it changed much from ddr to ddr3 . but anyways if you have 1 or 2 gig you most likely have next gen ram anyway


Having extra RAM will not increase your speed. It's your CPU that determines processing speed, and GPU that determines display speed. RAM is for storing temporary data, and as long as your RAM is more than enough, having 8gb instead of 4gb will not make a difference. You only need to worry about RAM if you plan on running a dozen other things at the same time as sc2.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 20:06:29
March 21 2010 20:05 GMT
#28
RAM doesn't matter

get a better graphics card. Your 9400GT has 1GB of VRAM, but the problem is that VRAM doesn't matter if your card can't even saturate it. The 9400GT has a pathetic amount of processors, a low clock speed, and a low shader count.

Your GPU was the main issue and it still is. (Unless your CPU is really bad)
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0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
March 21 2010 20:08 GMT
#29
This thread might benefit from a poll in the OP.
IskatuMesk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada969 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 20:16:50
March 21 2010 20:16 GMT
#30
sc2 is 32-bit from what I've been told... so more than 2gb ram won't really help you nearly as much as a new cpu or video card.

Also sc2 only uses two cores, and rather ineffectively at that.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 20:22:42
March 21 2010 20:21 GMT
#31
I have never heard of a 32bit application that only uses up to 2gb of RAM. It also seems like SC2 scales well with extra cores.
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Tef
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden443 Posts
March 21 2010 20:24 GMT
#32
I am using 2 gb
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IskatuMesk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada969 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 20:32:03
March 21 2010 20:25 GMT
#33
On March 22 2010 05:21 FragKrag wrote:
I have never heard of a 32bit application that only uses up to 2gb of RAM. It also seems like SC2 scales well with extra cores.


32-bit is limited to using 2 gigs of ram for the most part, then it starts using pagefile I believe. I've never seen sc2 using more than 1.6gig after a day-long gaming session though.

Some games, like Sins of a Solar Empire, will just flat out crash when you go over the 2gb limit.

That is what programmers are telling me anyways, and the 32-bit limit is a big crutch with SoaSE. I doubt sc2 to run into similar issues but it could become a problem with very large mods that add a lot of custom textures.

/e

This is my CPU usage with a big FFA replay going on.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4382/5454o.jpg

It seems sc2 has separated a handful of threads onto some other cores but for the most part the majority of the game is lumped onto the one core. Some cores it doesn't even touch. And this is with all of that shit I have running in the background.

'Course, they may improve it for release, but I kind of doubt it this far along the line.

What this means is that if we have server-side physics for maps/mods they could be real performance killers unless they are one of the threads on another core.

sc2 is more GPU intensive than anything else right now.
JoSo
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden47 Posts
March 21 2010 20:30 GMT
#34
2 GB ram for me as well.

Runs smothly until I get like lets say 180+ or smt in supply, then it seems to lag a bit. Dunno if its because of the ram though, I have a laptop with a quite weak processor.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 20:35:23
March 21 2010 20:34 GMT
#35
I believe with 32bit there is a way to allow a program to access more than the limit of 2GB of RAM inside windows, but I guess that is another reason to throw 32bit out of the window if the stupid 3GB barrier wasn't bad enough :|

Well, all I have are those legionhardware benches, and it seemed like SC2 got a decent FPS boost with extra cores.
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IskatuMesk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada969 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 20:39:26
March 21 2010 20:38 GMT
#36
Well, it does support multicore, it's just not very efficient with it. I can't say I've seen many games that are, though. The only things that use my i7 properly are 3ds max and megui.

Having 8 cores like that is great for mass multitasking, though. :D
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
March 21 2010 20:48 GMT
#37
i use 1gig on my laptop and it runs perfect in all situations, but then again i have a heavily edited version of windows xp 64bit. Fastest OP ^^

4 gigs on my desktop and same thing
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MoooN1
Profile Joined December 2007
Germany128 Posts
March 21 2010 20:52 GMT
#38
using 4 gig ram on my pc

when starcraft 2 is fully loaded it uses up to about 1,4 gig of my memory
so loading times etc should be quite ok with 2 gig when you have ~ 600 mb free for other stuff
OnCoke
Profile Joined March 2007
Romania49 Posts
March 21 2010 20:53 GMT
#39
2GB here as well (ddr2, 800mhz). Athlon 4850e, ATI 4770, 512mb. Win 7 x32.

Resolution: 1440x900. Recommended settings: Ultra. FPS at the recommended settings: ~22-24 average.

Needless to say, i've downgraded those settings to something between medium and high, and now the FPS counter averages 35-37. I don't have many programs running in the background (yahoo messenger, eset smart security, some other really minor stuff), sc2 load times are good, RAM consumption goes up to 1.6-1.7 gigs (this includes the 650-700 megs the windows & those other background programs use).

Yes, x32 processes can't address more than 2GB of RAM. In XP, i know i was using a /3GB argument in the boot.ini, because, strangely enough, a program was crashing on me shortly after the task manager was showing that process hitting 1.6 gigs.
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 20:59:02
March 21 2010 20:54 GMT
#40
I run everything on mostly Ultra with only 2gb of RAM, granted some of the really big battles, especially in 2v2 do lag me a bit, but it's still playable. I'm also running a Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700, GeForce 8800 GTX SLI'd though. I would still like to get another 3-4gb though just so I can play without worry of slow downs in huge battles.
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
March 21 2010 20:54 GMT
#41
Sounds like its the GPU tbh, 9400 isn't that big of a deal :S
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 20:59:32
March 21 2010 20:59 GMT
#42
i use 2gb with an 8600gts, runs smoothly on decent settings
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
March 21 2010 20:59 GMT
#43
i run it with only 1gb ram

its smooth most of the time, only time it lagged was in a test 200 vs 200 fight
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
March 21 2010 21:05 GMT
#44
Nowadays it's very rarely the RAM that is the issue. 2 gigs is more than enough to run any single program right now..and 4 gigs is more than enough that you'd probably never use it all.

Your main issue is your GPU. At this moment the most bang for your buck is probably an 8800. The 8800 is probably the best value card you could possibly buy. More than enough power STILL for any game out there and doesn't break the bank.
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Archon_Wing
Profile Joined May 2004
United States378 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 21:17:59
March 21 2010 21:12 GMT
#45
2 GB is more than enough it seems. I run SC2 perfectly smooth at 1280x800 resolution and everything else at default with the following stats:

# Operating system:Windows 2.5.1.2600 (SP 3)
# CPU type:Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4600 @ 2.40GHz
# CPU Speed (GHz):2.414
# System memory (GB):1.998
# Graphics card model:ATI Radeon HD 2400
# Graphics card driver:ati2dvag.dll
# Desktop resolution:1680x1050

That's not very good at all. I couldn't play any of the newer games, but I don't really care about any new games aside from D3 and SC2 anyways. :D If you pick a lower resolution it would be even better performance.Just don't have like 3000 programs running with SC2. And keep your spyware scanner updated.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 21:18:29
March 21 2010 21:18 GMT
#46
What? You would be hard pressed to even find an 8800GT in stock, and even if it is, it's probably retailing around $90-$110, a price point currently dominated by the ATi HD 4850/Nvidia 9800GT/Nvidia GT 240.
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Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
March 21 2010 21:22 GMT
#47
I have 2 gig ram, gt8800 everything's on full atm.
iD.NicKy
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
France767 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 21:36:28
March 21 2010 21:36 GMT
#48
i'm almost smooth with 1.5Go ram and a radeon 9600 (128Mo) .. on low details obv
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 21:40:09
March 21 2010 21:36 GMT
#49
On March 22 2010 04:05 Skyze wrote:
I REALLY need to upgrade my computer to play, I get a whole 10 FPS right now! hah.

I bought a new video card, a GeForce 9400 GT 1GB, so that should help a lot, since my video card was the main issue (256mb ONBOARD card haha).. but I want to know how much ram most people are running SC2 at. I just want to run it smoothly on the lowest settings possible so I can play competitively =[


2GB of ram is not a problem.
That card is horrible, change it if you can don't buy GPU based on how much ram it has it is just a marketing trick to add more ram then the card is able to address so if you can change it to HD4650 512mb DDR3, or HD4650 1GB DDR2(not sure what is better they should be about the same) HD4650 cost only few $ more, and it is much better, or if you can, and you ever plan to play anything else then SC2 on lowest then get a HD4770 or HD4850(if your PSU can support that) for little over 100$.

Don't get hang up with how much ram the card have, there are very diferent speeds of ram, and that is only one of the things that is important for GPU power.

You should also check if you don't have any viruses/spyware, and if nothing overheat in your system, lowest settings have very low requirements.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
March 21 2010 21:36 GMT
#50
I promise you its the GPU you bought thats holding you back.

the 9400 is not really a gpu designed for gaming.


Take a look at this chart and find the 9400

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,2569-6.html

I hate to suggest this to you because you JUST bought a new graphics card, but if you are going to spend any money on your computer to improve SC2, you need to go get a new graphics card.

Grab something like this if you want to go cheap - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500154
Pape
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Serbia419 Posts
March 21 2010 21:49 GMT
#51
Only reason I can see is if its with vista it might cause some problems, otherwise 2gb should be plenty for SC2 (possibly even with vista).
good luck have fun!
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
March 21 2010 21:53 GMT
#52
i dont know what the point playing a game that look awasome in High setting using low setting lol
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 21 2010 21:59 GMT
#53
I got a crap laptop with a graphics card that starcraft doesn't even recognize but it runs well at lowest settings with 2gig ram.
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-21 22:16:04
March 21 2010 22:15 GMT
#54
I run it on Windows 7 with 1GB and it mostly works OK with everything on lowest.
MGreeN
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
France50 Posts
March 21 2010 22:24 GMT
#55
4 Go, ATI Radeon Mobility HD 4650 1 Go, Intel Core Duo 2,00 Ghz

It's a laptop and it works fine : )
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
March 21 2010 22:29 GMT
#56
no 32bit program on 32bit windows can use more than 1.8 gb of ram anyway ;<

ofc if you run a lot of other stuff in the background more than 2 gb will make a difference, but just for sc2 it shouldn't

no need for dozens of more people to confirm that it works. it's your graphics card and there are a couple of threads for this already which you can check. you can also make a blog if you need still need more specific graphics card help as those threads can offer, but I doubt that's even necessary
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