EPTI need to learn ZvP and ZvZ
can someone pls recommend me some good replays of solid Z builds?
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Tangsta
Australia68 Posts
I need to learn ZvP and ZvZ can someone pls recommend me some good replays of solid Z builds? | ||
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dobbersp
United States94 Posts
I get this error: "The game makes reference to invalid or unavailable files." Anyone have a solution? PS Imma watch NonY's phoenix pack now. d:- D | ||
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Tundera
United States30 Posts
Anyway, I read alot and watched replays and figured out a style of play that fits me, and I want some advice about what I'm doing, particularly in this replay. [url blocked] (P) Tundera vs (T) some dude, i forgot his name -.-;; Needless to say, I won pretty easily, but it felt like I had WAY too much mineral to know what to do with, and i was pumping units out of like 7 warp gates and teching up nonstop. Its a normal zeal/high templar build that I saw WhiteRa do in a replay. I just want to know if I should have been engaging him more so I would have had more of a reason to blow more mineral? Or if maybe I had it right and its just like that. I think at the end of the game I had like 8000 mineral, like 1-2k gas, and 4 expo's. | ||
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TheBaron87
United States4 Posts
Not particularly high-level, but very aggressive play vs speedling harassment left us both with little economy and under a lot of pressure. Very micro-intense game where the Zerg hung on by his clawtips for quite a while. | ||
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Irie
Germany39 Posts
On April 26 2010 06:37 BlasiuS wrote: cool game, was silently screaming for toss to get HT against MMM + BCs  apologies if you're toss  hehe, i gotta admit, i was the protoss but do you really think HT do any good in this spot? they got nerfed quite a bit and move so sooo slowly. if i want to exert any sort of pressure on his natural i need collosuses imho | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On April 25 2010 10:53 RiGun wrote: Don't blame it on balance, you only massed crappy units, not even a single raven point defense drone and hunter seeker missile would have fucked that Zerg ball in the ass, instead you let your Thors get parasited and you lost like 24 of food while he gained that, so it was more like 224 vs 176 food... I "massed crappy units?" WHAT THE FUCK? ROFL. Are you kidding me? I posted the game as an example, if you do not harrass a Z at all, and try to play a "straight up macro game" you are going to get rolled by larva inject. hunter seeker missile is very difficult to get and use due to the gas and tech costs along with everything else, if you have a suggestion for adding it in there, be my guest. And I did not "let my thors get parasited." There is not a way you can magically stop it from happening, you realize that right? oh and they have range 9 now too @_@ and it is a balance issue, straight up vs straight up macro/defense is not as viable a style as you would think it would be...which is  i will try to incorporate more ravens though, doubt it will be effective as getting many more units or other gas units with those resources though. perhaps ghosts would work better instead for EMP On April 25 2010 13:17 Tropics wrote: Z is > T though if you're not aggressive because they can get infinite drones then run you over with infinite hydra gotta keep pressure up. Yah, that is my point that some people miss. If you do not harrass, you pretty much autolose. I tinker around with a lot of defensive/macro builds to see how they fare, I am going to start using ghosts vs infestors as I cannot think of anything else that would help. Ravens take too long to gather nrg and too many resources, but might try to go back to em as well. On April 25 2010 16:20 zeeone wrote: I saw your first tank at 29:20, and not a single raven at all. Banshee's 30 minutes in to defend ur mineral-less main is generally a bad idea too. I dunno bro, I think u should be looking at your own game before u cry imbalance. 33 minute snooooze-fest! I think you should get out of copper 6 post gunslinger. The banshees at 30 minutes have nothing to do with the game or why I posted the replay, that was after the fact I was already dead. | ||
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Chunkybuddha
Canada347 Posts
Edit: Oh and I already downloaded debos. If you read this debo, you're great, thanks! | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 26 2010 08:34 avilo wrote: I "massed crappy units?" WHAT THE FUCK? ROFL. Are you kidding me? I posted the game as an example, if you do not harrass a Z at all, and try to play a "straight up macro game" you are going to get rolled by larva inject. hunter seeker missile is very difficult to get and use due to the gas and tech costs along with everything else, if you have a suggestion for adding it in there, be my guest. And I did not "let my thors get parasited." There is not a way you can magically stop it from happening, you realize that right? oh and they have range 9 now too @_@ and it is a balance issue, straight up vs straight up macro/defense is not as viable a style as you would think it would be...which is i will try to incorporate more ravens though, doubt it will be effective as getting many more units or other gas units with those resources though. perhaps ghosts would work better instead for EMP Yah, that is my point that some people miss. If you do not harrass, you pretty much autolose. I tinker around with a lot of defensive/macro builds to see how they fare, I am going to start using ghosts vs infestors as I cannot think of anything else that would help. Ravens take too long to gather nrg and too many resources, but might try to go back to em as well. I think you should get out of copper 6 post gunslinger. The banshees at 30 minutes have nothing to do with the game or why I posted the replay, that was after the fact I was already dead. But its not a balance issue its your playing thats the problem. Don't complain about balance when you lose players like that are annoying (no offense to anyone reading this its true) rather then think about imbalance try to think of what you could have done differently. Also to note you said Hunter seeker missile with raven is too gas heavy but you got to a 200/200 army? Will you could have easily thrown in a Raven with hunter seeker missile it is very strong and when you use it you'll be like "wow I am dumb for thinking you can't play a macro game against zerg Raven's are better then I thought @_@". | ||
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forgotten0ne
United States951 Posts
On April 26 2010 08:12 dobbersp wrote: HALP! I got a beta key but I cant watch the TLI reps. I get this error: "The game makes reference to invalid or unavailable files." Anyone have a solution? PS Imma watch NonY's phoenix pack now. d:- D You need to play a single Multiplayer game, and download the extra files automatically. | ||
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dobbersp
United States94 Posts
On April 26 2010 12:44 forgotten0ne wrote: You need to play a single Multiplayer game, and download the extra files automatically. Not so. TT I've played a bunch of multiplayer games, and downloaded all of those maps. Should I just delete my cache and download them again automatically? d,:- ( | ||
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sosn
Canada31 Posts
He beat the crud out of me all day, real life friend. Interesting game I would say, I fell a bit behind on my macro but a lot of action after the first few minutes. Enjoy! -bEEp | ||
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WizEye
United States9 Posts
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CondoM
Australia13 Posts
On April 26 2010 13:19 dobbersp wrote: Not so. TT I've played a bunch of multiplayer games, and downloaded all of those maps. Should I just delete my cache and download them again automatically? d,:- ( You won't be able to watch replays that were played on a patch before the first one you've installed. I recently reinstalled the beta and now I can't watch anything before patch 9 I don't know if you can download the previous patches or not. | ||
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
On April 26 2010 11:45 blade55555 wrote: But its not a balance issue its your playing thats the problem. Don't complain about balance when you lose players like that are annoying (no offense to anyone reading this its true) rather then think about imbalance try to think of what you could have done differently. Also to note you said Hunter seeker missile with raven is too gas heavy but you got to a 200/200 army? Will you could have easily thrown in a Raven with hunter seeker missile it is very strong and when you use it you'll be like "wow I am dumb for thinking you can't play a macro game against zerg Raven's are better then I thought @_@". He wasn't complaining about balance. In the same way that if you let someone get 10 bases they're going to win, not pressuring a zerg means they're going to win, because they can get a ridiculous economy, is what he was saying. In the post you quoted he even pointed that out and you still didn't understand. Also, hunter seeker missile sucks because it takes an hour to build up the energy and costs daft amounts of gas and takes years to research. Point defense drones are far better than HSM in big battles. | ||
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[SD]Hi_MaN
Poland54 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On April 26 2010 18:03 [SD]Hi_MaN wrote: GosuCup Final, HayprO vs LucifroN: very nice series indeed, thank uuu | ||
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Nerostarcraft
Iceland4 Posts
I´m not that good player so it would help me out to get games if i can use some of the games here. Regards, Nerostarcraft | ||
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Nerostarcraft
Iceland4 Posts
Check out my channer http://www.youtube.com/nerostarcraft My email adress is on the site or you can add me in game. Game name . ID Nero.maddi Im on european server if that does matter. | ||
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[SD]Hi_MaN
Poland54 Posts
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[SD]Hi_MaN
Poland54 Posts
np here you have replays from same tourney, but from 3rd place match, LiquidNazgul vs DemusliM (PvT): | ||
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