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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 13:22:22
January 21 2010 13:11 GMT
#41
Jaedongs statistics:
Fighting spirit 66.67%
ultimatum n/a
matchpoint n/a
odd-eye n/a

Flash statistics:
Fighting spirit 85.71%
ultimatum 100%
matchpoint 50%
odd-eye 100%

So the percentages on each map except fighting spirit are based on TvZ results with flash but without jaedong. So it doesn't really give a fair view.
Also the maps are fairly new and not alot of statistics are up yet so why do you speculate so much on these statistics?

Flash won twice and lost twice on televised games on matchpoint and it will be played twice. So if you want to speculate about map imbalance maybe this could be in jaedongs favour.

But we really don't know how well jaedong plays vs terrans on 3 of the 4 maps
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
January 21 2010 13:20 GMT
#42
It's not really basing on statistics, but looking at the games played out on the maps + the map itself (10 minerals starting -> T benefits, etc etc)
POGGERS
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 21 2010 13:24 GMT
#43
As has been pointed out, the statistics themselves are meaningless because there are too few games in the sample size. However, in that "Progamers predict the MSL winner" thread a whole lot of them suggested that the maps were slanted towards Terran, so i dunno.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
January 21 2010 13:33 GMT
#44
On January 21 2010 20:57 stambe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 20:33 konadora wrote:
Tiamat was a fucking joke lol


I dont know why Tiamat get such a hate tbh. I mean it's not a balanced map, but it's aesthetically beautiful map and i've played awesome games on ICCup when they still had it in the maphack.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
January 21 2010 13:42 GMT
#45
Taking into account A+ level ICCup games would have a much bigger meaning than this shit sample pro games.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 21 2010 13:53 GMT
#46
Many of the terran progamers actually think matcfhpoint is a good map for zerg. And it's played twice and flash has a "bad" record on this map.
But since its jaedong and flash, i dont think these maps will matter too much.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
January 21 2010 13:59 GMT
#47
here's to 3 bunker rushes!
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 21 2010 14:00 GMT
#48
On January 21 2010 22:59 CTStalker wrote:
here's to 3 bunker rushes!


i really think we wont see more than 1 bunker rush if any this series.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
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