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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
Its not a choke - he just took a risk and it didnt pay off. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On August 14 2009 20:45 Alsar wrote: In the 4pool game, I noticed that once jaedong pushed in with more lings to take down the bunker, he started attacking fantasy's scv line first a bit before he went for the bunker. I'm wondering if that was to trick fantasy into not desperation running for the bunker and instead thinking that JD was just going for the scvs instead, so his lings could get over before the scvs did? yes. the purpose is twofold: first, to take focus away from the lings that are coming in from the other side (this is what happened, it's the terran's responsibility to have the presence of mind to notice the additional lings), and to force scvs to stack up which slows their progress to the bunker in case the terran does notice the additional lings it was pretty much a flawless execution of basically the only attack that coulda salvaged that game for jaedong, really well done. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
On August 14 2009 20:42 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: On August 14 2009 20:34 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: oh by the way saying 'fuck x player' or 'x player sucks' or using the word 'fanboy' to talk shit to someone or multiple people in this thread is an auto 2 day ban from here  how many idiots will i catch today i wonder?!?!! please quote this a couple times so it doesnt get lost in the fast thread, i'll give it a page or two to settle in THIS RULE IS NOW IN EFFECT keep it clean kids Uhm, wasn't there a rule before like this way back? | ||
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Plutonium
United States2217 Posts
He wins the first game or two with his vulture into valk strategy, and then gets steamrolled early game three times because he won't change up his plan. He opened with a fast factory wall in every single game here, and got punished for it by JD. | ||
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Afasia
Finland70 Posts
On August 14 2009 20:45 konadora wrote: i was so eagerly anticipating a Fantasy 3-0 win after reading the LR of the first game and seeing how much he destroyed jaedong then i returned home and i see this result what the fuck man =( It was short and stout. Just like some poor terran was getting schooled by a much better player. Somehow reminds me of that gom finals vs bisu? bisu was doing great for a while but then just froze out and lost blatantly. The first game was quite good, second game jd showed his claws and on third he had set his gaze on prey already and things were done | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On August 14 2009 20:45 ShaperofDreams wrote: No you wouldn't. Calm your nerd rage and think clearly for a moment. In fact I advise you to re-watch the game a couple times in the future and see why Jaedong won. Also there were a LOT of mind games involved in that game. edit: and LOL and you asking fakesteve to ban the "trolls" right after writing this horrible post. you two better stop quoting each other immediately | ||
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johanes
Czech Republic2229 Posts
On August 14 2009 20:46 Carnac wrote: Losing a game or match doesn't necessarily mean the player choked or anything like it No but losing like fantasy did in last 2 games definetly is a choke, that were more fantsy's lost games than jaedongs wins | ||
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pr0t0ss
Russian Federation57 Posts
it's like a classic music, like a symphony he deserved everyone of his wins what can fantasy do? some bunker cheese? MSL mean much less than OSL after all this OSL became Jaedong's coronation for the bownja, best of the best of the best al times, etc. title | ||
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ChaseR
Norway1004 Posts
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
On August 14 2009 20:47 G.s)NarutO wrote: Why don't people understand that this was a pure build order win in the last game? FantaSy took the risk that he can't defend vs a Zerg that is 9pooling with that wall and Jaedong went 9 pool speed so FantaSy lost. Its not a choke - he just took a risk and it didnt pay off. it wasn't a good risk to take because it didn't have any potential benefit. why wall off against fast lings if the wall also fails against fast lings | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
On August 14 2009 20:47 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: yes. the purpose is twofold: first, to take focus away from the lings that are coming in from the other side (this is what happened, it's the terran's responsibility to have the presence of mind to notice the additional lings), and to force scvs to stack up which slows their progress to the bunker in case the terran does notice the additional lings it was pretty much a flawless execution of basically the only attack that coulda salvaged that game for jaedong, really well done. people are definitely taking credit away from JD in terms of his perfect execution of that attack. flood lings into the mineral line, threatening to kill SCVs, then when fantasy responds by stacking his scvs he immediately switches to the bunker with the help of the other lings flanking. | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2749 Posts
On August 14 2009 20:38 ForTenPoints wrote: Because it's hard to make a map where all 4 allows you to wall with correct spawn....since the map has to be symmetrical in some way. This happens all the time...differences in bases are just part of the game....like weather in football or baseball affecting the game. Besides, Fantasy could've done a rax-depot wall instead of his rax-fac wall. | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
Iris for MSL Flash for GOM I would cream myself. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
On August 14 2009 20:47 Plutonium wrote: This reminded me of the last time Fantasy went against Jaedong. He wins the first game or two with his vulture into valk strategy, and then gets steamrolled early game three times because he won't change up his plan. He opened with a fast factory wall in every single game here, and got punished for it by JD. you sir, are telling the truth, fantasy is like a robot =/ but executes them excellently though | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On August 14 2009 20:49 Navane wrote: Besides, Fantasy could've done a rax-depot wall instead of his rax-fac wall. yeah i never understood why terrans wall in with their fac | ||
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
On August 14 2009 20:47 Zoler wrote: Hey dude there were no mind games at all. If you survive a 4pool you defend, can it be easier? You have a vulture coming, how hard is it to defend ur bunker til then? Fantasy is just greedy re-watch the games you are generalizing a very specific game into "4pool". If you still think you would win that game as the zerg you are a very delusional person. | ||
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levelzx
Poland174 Posts
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