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ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
August 14 2009 21:02 GMT
#2061
Holy crap.. just watched the VODs. Fantasy choked after that 4pool and mindrape.. Jaedong gets his revenge and hopefully his golden mouse. Fantasy played insanely well the first 2 games but after that brutal 4pool, he was broken. JD is pretty much unstoppable now. gl to Fantasy for the next OSL.
Too bad a ZvZ final with JD is just onesided rape. TvZ really is the best MU to watch imho.
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Raidy
Profile Joined March 2009
Japan87 Posts
August 14 2009 21:05 GMT
#2062
Based on Jaedong's monstrous eight games this weekend, and the fact that he only had one week to prepare for all of them, it's pretty obvious which MU and map pool he practiced more.

Long live the king. Did you guys think Fantasy would actually get away with 8 raxing Jaedong in the FINALS of SKT1 vs. Oz? This win wasn't only for Jaedong, but for his team as well. There's no pro on the scene more deserving of this title than JD.

Looking forward to seeing Jaedong's ZvZ at its top in the finals.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
August 14 2009 21:06 GMT
#2063
On August 15 2009 05:06 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2009 04:29 Krackling wrote:
On August 15 2009 04:10 Tien wrote:
When zergs cheese, it is out of frustration against terran cheese.


I have an extreme dislike for Fantasy. Uses way too many neo-boxer cheese rushes and I love
seeing him get bashed.


This is just me venting my frustration against Boxer 3-0 Yellow with allin scv rushes. I never
got over that.

What about JD's 4pool was "out of frustration against terran cheese"?


The part where he said he basically only did it because fantasy cheesed him

Since when did "revenge" equate to "desperation".
frozenclaw
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada410 Posts
August 14 2009 21:06 GMT
#2064
Just watched the games also and I was jumping and screaming the whole way. Seriously I thought that JD was playing kind of shaky the first game esp with defiler usage. When it felt like Fantasy would win the series, JD digged deep and outplayed Fantasy with his mind.

Rooting for JD to win the OSL finals!
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
August 14 2009 21:25 GMT
#2065
Just watched the VODs.. I have to say I was slightly disappointed.

Game1 was lost when Fantasy cleverly slipped those vultures in. His tactical play is near-perfect and when the players are as incredibly gosu as Fantasy and JD you really can lose that fast.
Game2 was incredible. It showed what should have happened in the PL final. I know I wasn't the only one confused by guardian play but this really showed why Jaedong should always favour lurker/ling/hydra/defiler in high-gas situations. Guardian play might be great for A-class players, but not S-class. Fantasy played very well too, but here we saw who has the best physical of all time, the multi-tasking and macro was insane.
Game3... wtf Jaedong has balls the size of grapefruit. He 4 pools on a 4 player map!? Even then it shouldn't have worked. He duped Fantasy by hiding some lings and snuck in beautifully to take the bunker down and the win. Fantasy will be gutted he didn't protect that bunker better. He could afford to leave SCVs ready to repair and still be miles ahead in economy.
Game4. A bit of a shame really. Understandably shaky play from Fantasy.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Neighbor
Profile Joined May 2009
United States119 Posts
August 14 2009 21:26 GMT
#2066
Ah Fantasy canceled his first marine in Game 4. I was wondering why it was a little late. Wanted to get down the second supply a little quicker I guess. Oh well.
Postaljester
Profile Joined December 2002
United States128 Posts
August 14 2009 21:26 GMT
#2067
a zerg winning? impossible, all the people who play zerg are the biggest whiners about how their race is weak, yet they dominated.

pretty interesting set of games. fantasy gave away that game to the 4 pool, he could have just made marines and won instead of going factory.
If you cant do something well, learn to enjoy doing it poorly
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-14 21:30:48
August 14 2009 21:27 GMT
#2068
On August 15 2009 06:25 Klive5ive wrote:
Just watched the VODs.. I have to say I was slightly disappointed.

Game1 was lost when Fantasy cleverly slipped those vultures in. His tactical play is near-perfect and when the players are as incredibly gosu as Fantasy and JD you really can lose that fast.
Game2 was incredible. It showed what should have happened in the PL final. I know I wasn't the only one confused by guardian play but this really showed why Jaedong should always favour lurker/ling/hydra/defiler in high-gas situations. Guardian play might be great for A-class players, but not S-class. Fantasy played very well too, but here we saw who has the best physical of all time, the multi-tasking and macro was insane.
Game3... wtf Jaedong has balls the size of grapefruit. He 4 pools on a 4 player map!? Even then it shouldn't have worked. He duped Fantasy by hiding some lings and snuck in beautifully to take the bunker down and the win. Fantasy will be gutted he didn't protect that bunker better. He could afford to leave SCVs ready to repair and still be miles ahead in economy.
Game4. A bit of a shame really. Understandably shaky play from Fantasy.

their series are so disappointing, game wise. just like last osl as well.

On August 15 2009 06:26 Postaljester wrote:
a zerg winning? impossible, all the people who play zerg are the biggest whiners about how their race is weak, yet they dominated.

pretty interesting set of games. fantasy gave away that game to the 4 pool, he could have just made marines and won instead of going factory.

zergs are not the biggest whiners. terrans are.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-14 21:31:28
August 14 2009 21:30 GMT
#2069
How are all games crazy good?

Jaedong fucking cheesed the last 2 games, and I respect him even less now. I mean c'mon 4 pool and next game all in lings again and Fantasy made some weird wall and Jaedong got very lucky.

At least Jaedong knows how to be lame, whereas Fantasy probably would have won if the last games were straight up.

And yeah I'm kinda speaking in rage but still I think the last games were very lame.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
PrideNeverDies
Profile Joined July 2009
Kazakhstan74 Posts
August 14 2009 21:37 GMT
#2070
On August 15 2009 06:30 Foucault wrote:
How are all games crazy good?

Jaedong fucking cheesed the last 2 games, and I respect him even less now. I mean c'mon 4 pool and next game all in lings again and Fantasy made some weird wall and Jaedong got very lucky.

At least Jaedong knows how to be lame, whereas Fantasy probably would have won if the last games were straight up.

And yeah I'm kinda speaking in rage but still I think the last games were very lame.


does this mean you dont respect boxer because boxer bunker rushed all the time
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 14 2009 21:39 GMT
#2071
On August 15 2009 06:30 Foucault wrote:
How are all games crazy good?

Jaedong fucking cheesed the last 2 games, and I respect him even less now. I mean c'mon 4 pool and next game all in lings again and Fantasy made some weird wall and Jaedong got very lucky.

At least Jaedong knows how to be lame, whereas Fantasy probably would have won if the last games were straight up.

And yeah I'm kinda speaking in rage but still I think the last games were very lame.

Jaedong only went all-in lings in the last game because he saw that Fantasy's wall was awful and that if he massed lings he'd be able to pull a Reagan.
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cHicKeLoR
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany559 Posts
August 14 2009 21:47 GMT
#2072
When I saw who was playing I thought about what i want to see and who I want to win. Essentially it happened like I wanted it to be :D (except seeing those two in the finals). Now all that is left is for JD to win in the finals. JD Hwaiting!
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
August 14 2009 21:49 GMT
#2073
Game 4 wasn't cheese at all. You think he's going to just have 6 lings up there, see an opportunity then build another hatch instead of more lings? That would be just retarded. I don't think Jaedong would normally 4pool, but it was definitely intended as revenge for the proleague finals. He's usually the one deflecting cheese the most so i think he can be forgiven for actually doing it for a change.
mcgriddle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States253 Posts
August 14 2009 21:49 GMT
#2074
when you kill the only marine defending a massive wall... might as well make l lots of lings.

And the 4 pool- in a bo5 series you have to play mindgames. my main complaint of jaedong before the series was his continual standard 12 hatch every game. first 2 games were really fun to watch though.
Reason obeys itself....and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 14 2009 22:03 GMT
#2075
On August 15 2009 06:30 Foucault wrote:
How are all games crazy good?

Jaedong fucking cheesed the last 2 games, and I respect him even less now. I mean c'mon 4 pool and next game all in lings again and Fantasy made some weird wall and Jaedong got very lucky.

At least Jaedong knows how to be lame, whereas Fantasy probably would have won if the last games were straight up.

And yeah I'm kinda speaking in rage but still I think the last games were very lame.

4pool was mindgames. last game wasn't allin lings, it was a reaction. He was making drones for a while until he realized that fantasy sucks at picking the right builds for each position. Yeah Fantasy would have won if they were straight-up, just like he won game 2.
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MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-14 22:09:06
August 14 2009 22:08 GMT
#2076
Bracket Terrorist strikes again!
Psyqo
Profile Joined November 2007
United States401 Posts
August 14 2009 22:09 GMT
#2077
I am so proud of you Jaedong. You looked off in the 1st set, but that look in your eyes came back in the next 3. What an amazing display of determination to beat someone of fantasy's calibre.

Golden mouse, here we come!
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-14 23:24:47
August 14 2009 22:09 GMT
#2078
On August 15 2009 06:30 Foucault wrote:
How are all games crazy good?

Jaedong fucking cheesed the last 2 games, and I respect him even less now. I mean c'mon 4 pool and next game all in lings again and Fantasy made some weird wall and Jaedong got very lucky.

At least Jaedong knows how to be lame, whereas Fantasy probably would have won if the last games were straight up.

And yeah I'm kinda speaking in rage but still I think the last games were very lame.

lol.


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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
August 14 2009 22:16 GMT
#2079
Fantasy's wall on the last game was horrific. 4 buildings and all your units come out on the wrong side? If you have to do that to wall in, you're better off without one.
日本語が分かりますか
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
August 14 2009 22:23 GMT
#2080
Three things:
1) Jaedong's face in the fourth set when the Barracks went down....absolute death, probably one of the most terrifying expressions I've ever seen on a gamers face.

2) As for all the whiners about, "Jaedong cheesed", it worked; and in the end it doesn't matter how, the only thing that matters is that Jaedong advanced and Fantasy didn't. They're both great, but on that particular day, Jaedong was the better. I didn't hear any Fantasy fanboys bitching when Fantasy cheesed JD in PL.

3) DO NOT count Yellow out. The Tyrant is still his same old nigh-invincible self, but a ZvZ is a ZvZ, and Jaedong's recent play has looked, dare I say it, mortal?

Disclaimer: Having said the above, number 3 in particular, I still feel Jaedong will take the OSL and become the 3rd. person to win a golden mouse, and, something many are forgetting, the 2nd. person to win 2 consecutive OSL's in a row, a feat only accomplished by Boxer.
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
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