EPT[SPL] Grand Final - SK Telecom T1 vs Hwaseung Oz - Day 1 -…
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
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sdvc
United States91 Posts
On August 07 2009 19:11 EvilTeletubby wrote: Why the *hell* are you guys listening to Klazart? *talks a million words a minute* *gets a bunch of stuff wrong* | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On August 07 2009 23:44 TwoToneTerran wrote: It seems almost inevitable that if a zerg who grabs the double gas doesn't take a turtle terran down with his quick, high gas army, then the Terran will win. It's way too easy for Terran to set up shop at the mineral onlys, and the main and nat are plenty of gas for tons of Vessels and a sizeable tank force. Jaedong, honestly, probably would've won if he'd gone Mutas for massive harass. Fantasy had like no turrets and a weak MnM force. But he fell into the trapping that is the double gas expo. Fantasy was the COMPLETE opposite of a turtle Terran. You either did not watch the game or have no idea what a turtle Terran is. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On August 07 2009 20:11 EvilTeletubby wrote: Well, to be fair we do have good English casters, just none of them are at sc2gg  It's especially painful when you realize that they DO have influence over a lot of people who also don't know any better.  I actually like moletrap and nukethestars from sc2gg.com Couldn't watch the games live, I'm looking forward to the VODs though! | ||
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geod
Vietnam450 Posts
On August 08 2009 00:31 TwoToneTerran wrote: Um, expanding to your backyard for the first 2/3rds of the game before going for the second main is not aggressive. Fantasy was turtling -- he had a factory and all his tanks shoved inside his nat up until the last like 5 minutes of the game. He pushed out as soon as he had a macro'd up army, but the dude turtled after the Bunker Rush -- for good reason! "Turtling" isn't a bad thing, it's what you have to do to stay alive after failing an 8rax. Also 'turtling' and pushing out aren't mutually exclusive. But when you've got a third of your supply in tanks sitting behind a wall at your nat, that's pretty turtled. I repeats which game have you seen? If there is a player turtling, this is Jeadong with fast hive fast goardian, mass sunken. Bunker rush, bunker break, mass dropship harass, push out constantly, outexpanding zerg are turtling? And Fantasy doesn't start producing tank until the second half of the game! | ||
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1984
Ukraine115 Posts
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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geod
Vietnam450 Posts
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SilverskY
Korea (South)3086 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
(didn't think it would be this bad though.... >.< wow....) | ||
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Nitan
United States3401 Posts
On August 08 2009 00:15 konadora wrote: FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES OH MY GOD High five. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On August 08 2009 00:45 geod wrote: I repeats which game have you seen? If there is a player turtling, this is Jeadong with fast hive fast goardian, mass sunken. Bunker rush, bunker break, mass dropship harass, push out constantly, outexpanding zerg are turtling? And Fantasy doesn't start producing tank until the second half of the game! Uggghhh I'm talking about the absolutely massive tankline and back up bio force that never left his nat until he went for the final blow. It's impossible for a zerg to break defense that tight when there's an MnM force on the map. Like I said, turtling and pushing aren't mutually exclusive in a game. By the time Jaedong had higher tech units, there's absolutely no way to break that force. If you noticed, Jaedong completely dismantled Fantasy's in-the-field MnM force several times, but not once could he come close to breaking into Fantasy's nat because of the rock solid defense. Fantasy played incredibly smart, even if his SK is a little sloppy. Playing smart sometimes means having 5 tanks and a control group of mnm + 1~3 vessels at your nat entrance, go figure. Jesus I'm not even insulting Fantasy -- I'm complimenting his wits, and yet you guys still somehow take offense. Hell I even predicted this would happen (Fantasy opening with a prepared build to snipe Jaedong in a close call), I'm totally with the Fantasy crowd here. =\ | ||
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
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Boundz(DarKo)
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Ret.
Brazil33 Posts
Jaedong will get owned again and proved not to deserve the bonjwa stats... | ||
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On August 08 2009 01:12 Ret. wrote: YEAH !!! SKT RULES !!! Jaedong will get owned again and proved not to deserve the bonjwa stats... nvm | ||
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Ideas
United States8144 Posts
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