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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On June 08 2009 01:38 haley wrote: How can no one respond to this inaccuracy? Right now, it's 6: 9 ZvP on Heartbreak Ridge including the GOM match that happened afterwards. 6: 9 is 2:3, which is greater than 1:3 by a large margin. And assuming this comment was before the GOM match, then it's 5: 9. 5: 9 is 1.67:3, still greater than 1:3. Your point? We all know Heartbreak Ridge is a bad map for zerg. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On June 08 2009 01:59 SimonB wrote: 6-9 is a pretty miniscule sample as it is. Maybe there are aspects of the map that are Protoss favored, but I don't see anything glaringly unbalanced about it. It doesn't matter about stats, the map itself, the structure of it favors protoss over zerg. Although it played a minor part in last night's game, I don't see why everyone is denying it. | ||
disciple
9071 Posts
On June 08 2009 02:12 Avidkeystamper wrote: It doesn't matter about stats, the map itself, the structure of it favors protoss over zerg. Although it played a minor part in last night's game, I don't see why everyone is denying it. I'm not denying it, in fact Bisu's words are like a given truth to me, he already said multiple times, even before 10 pvz were played on this map, that it is very friendly for toss against zerg | ||
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On June 07 2009 16:41 Avidkeystamper wrote: I could. This one game does not determine who is the better sc player, it probably will determine the PR though. Why? His loss that game had nothing to do with hold position, he played dumb, today, he played smart. Fine, as of now bisu is playing better games than jaedong. Who cares about their overall record, its now that matters. On June 08 2009 02:12 Avidkeystamper wrote: It doesn't matter about stats, the map itself, the structure of it favors protoss over zerg. Although it played a minor part in last night's game, I don't see why everyone is denying it. It did play a minor role, but people like savior was whooping people left and right even with the map imbalances. | ||
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On June 08 2009 02:14 MuffinDude wrote: Dubious. The only bo5 in recent memory was taken by Jaedong, and they're both raping like crazy in Proleague. Just going off of one game doesn't prove anything. Fine, as of now bisu is playing better games than jaedong. Who cares about their overall record, its now that matters. | ||
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On June 08 2009 02:19 Zozma wrote: Dubious. The only bo5 in recent memory was taken by Jaedong, and they're both raping like crazy in Proleague. Just going off of one game doesn't prove anything. Bo was like at the beginning of the year. It was so long ago. | ||
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Gliche
United States811 Posts
I can't believe I missed this for a stupid party?! WTF WAS I THINKING??? Youtube time! <3 nevake! Edit: epic series, exciting and hilarious. jd vs bisu could/should have been better though, a bit too standard. and after seeing the warnings below, i think i'll not read this LR thread =/ | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
Instead of enjoying the game people throw up a ton of excuses no matter who wins, be it on the map, how sick the guy is, not being at their best... whatever. Just enjoy the games guys. Bisu winning was good for my fantasy and my liquibet though. | ||
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erin[go]bragh
United States815 Posts
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400lb White Girl
United States83 Posts
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koloskye
United States16 Posts
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alt.tday
United States180 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On June 08 2009 01:38 haley wrote: How can no one respond to this inaccuracy? Right now, it's 6: 9 ZvP on Heartbreak Ridge including the GOM match that happened afterwards. 6: 9 is 2:3, which is greater than 1:3 by a large margin. And assuming this comment was before the GOM match, then it's 5: 9. 5: 9 is 1.67:3, still greater than 1:3. Because when I said it the map db was 33% and then Bisu won. That's why no one corrected me -- because when I said it my point was clear. I mean if you want I'll go into a huge winding rant about how the hard to defend expansions wreak havoc on a zerg mid-to-late game, or talk about how the chokes perfectly benefit storms, or how the fights in the field are dominated by storm because of the battle for the high ground forcing the zerg to move forward or automatically lose their army and their expansion, etc, but you'd be daft to think it's not p favored even if statistics violently swinged from less than 1:3 zvp to 2:3 zvp. That aside Bisu still deserved his win. I agree with everyone else who isn't missing a few bolts that his HT protection and early OL sniping are what put him ahead. The map's imbalance just sealed it for him later on. | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
And i think as of now they are both equal players neither would be favourite in a Bo match. I wouldn't say Bisu is in better form after JD's recent game against Leta he still looks really strong, just had so much ZvZ lately due to the map pool its been hard to really see his skill in other matchups. | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On June 08 2009 03:07 400lb White Girl wrote: If there is a better version it can easily replace the Bisu one. | ||
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