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anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
June 07 2009 14:19 GMT
#1461
wow bisu you're a beast
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
June 07 2009 14:38 GMT
#1462
Haha, my liquibet shot straight up after tonight.
Epic games!
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
June 07 2009 14:39 GMT
#1463
Gotta love Jaedong fanboys. Whenever Jaedong loses they always crying that the maps are imbalanced or he just threw game away. So funny.

Thanks konadora for the interview.

PS. The match was awesome.

Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 14:40:42
June 07 2009 14:39 GMT
#1464
2 points?
That's fanboys in general ;p
Jaedong
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 07 2009 14:41 GMT
#1465
On June 07 2009 23:39 Lebesgue wrote:
Gotta love Jaedong fanboys. Whenever Jaedong loses they always crying that the maps are imbalanced or he just threw game away. So funny.

Thanks konadora for the interview.

PS. The match was awesome.



It's even worse when people can't admit that a map is imbalanced.

I will straight up admit that Bisu played better today, that doesn't change the fact the damn map is poorly balanced for PvZ.
Remember Violet.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 07 2009 14:45 GMT
#1466
i question anyone who has 0 carapace vs 3-1 as zerg against protoss

seriously
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
June 07 2009 14:59 GMT
#1467
Summary of the Bisu versus Jaedong 5th set match.

1) Jaedong does the standard "Neo Sauron" build while attempting to block all scouting attempts with zerglings without speed upgrade.
2) Bisu sneaks a probe through and checks that Jaedong is building a spire.
3) Jaedong cancels his spire, and builds it again. This probably costed Jaedong the game.
4) Bisu kills four overlords thanks to the delayed spire. Point Bisu.
5) Jaedong scouts with his scourges that Bisu is building up a dragoon/high templar army, and builds up a mutalisk/hydralisk army to counter it.
6) Bisu sees that Jaedong is saving up larva and expects mutalisk sniping, and hides his high templars behind his cannons.
7) Jaedong's mutalisks get seriously injured while sniping high templars. Point Bisu once again.
8) Bisu guards his high templars well and Jaedong's mutalisks are too injured to do anything special.
9) A huge battle ensues resulting in Jaedong's army losing to Bisu's. Jaedong is done for.
10) Bisu kills Jaedong's expansion. Game over.

The rest of the game is Jaedong delaying his inevitable defeat. Perhaps facing any other protoss, he might have turned the tables with his late game play. But not against Bisu.
TL+ Member
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
June 07 2009 15:06 GMT
#1468
so many great games in this match, too bad (Z)Jaedong lost the ace and now i'll have to admit that (P)Bisu is slightly better
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
June 07 2009 15:13 GMT
#1469
On June 07 2009 23:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:
2 points?
That's fanboys in general ;p

Well, the GOM stuff too.
I guess all the favourites won, but somehow I went from ~20 to top 10.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 07 2009 15:15 GMT
#1470
On June 07 2009 23:39 Lebesgue wrote:
Gotta love Jaedong fanboys. Whenever Jaedong loses they always crying that the maps are imbalanced or he just threw game away. So funny.

Thanks konadora for the interview.

PS. The match was awesome.



And Bisu's are different? :p
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 15:24:33
June 07 2009 15:23 GMT
#1471
Bisu is such a smart player. He sends out probe scout, JD almost kills it, so he sends it back. JD correctly anticipates Bisu will will send out a second probe scout so he sends 'lings to the other exit from Bisu's base, but Bisu sneaks the second probe scout out instead from where his first scout escaped to.

Scouting the spire threw JD off a little bit, I think. He switched to 5 hatch hydras, but it delayed him just a little bit so that Bisu could kill 4 different overlords with his sairs before JD had any anti-air.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
June 07 2009 15:34 GMT
#1472
On June 08 2009 00:23 SimonB wrote:
Bisu is such a smart player. He sends out probe scout, JD almost kills it, so he sends it back. JD correctly anticipates Bisu will will send out a second probe scout so he sends 'lings to the other exit from Bisu's base, but Bisu sneaks the second probe scout out instead from where his first scout escaped to.

Scouting the spire threw JD off a little bit, I think. He switched to 5 hatch hydras, but it delayed him just a little bit so that Bisu could kill 4 different overlords with his sairs before JD had any anti-air.


A bit? He spazzed out and cancelled his half-done spire, only to immediately rebuild it. What a stupid, amataur-like mistake against one of the best players in the scene in one of the more important games of the season.

I expected a nail biting game to the finish. Instead, I saw a game that basically involved Jaedong playing catch up all game with Bisu barely breaking a sweat after Jaedong's mistake. With all the anticipation I had for the game, the way the game turned out ruined the day for me.
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SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 15:42:08
June 07 2009 15:41 GMT
#1473
I didn't actually even notice that he cancelled his spire. I suppose I should've because it wouldn't have made sense otherwise since he should've had scourge much sooner.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 07 2009 15:45 GMT
#1474
didnt he try to trick Bisu with that?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Plutonium
Profile Joined November 2007
United States2217 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 15:46:52
June 07 2009 15:46 GMT
#1475
The (P)Bisu/(Z)Jaedong game was the event of the night, but I'd like the throw some mega-props to (P)BackHo as well, for giving us this epic clash.

If anyone can manage to blow a game when it needs to be lost, it's you (P)BackHo. You're so clutch. Endless <3.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
June 07 2009 16:13 GMT
#1476
I think its kind of annoying how even though this map sucks for zerg Hwaseung basically has to send out JD because he's the only one who can keep up with Bisu on OZ
Liquid | SKT
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
June 07 2009 16:17 GMT
#1477
He's the only player who can consistently keep up with Bisu right now from any team.
Jaedong
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
June 07 2009 16:23 GMT
#1478
On June 08 2009 00:34 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2009 00:23 SimonB wrote:
Bisu is such a smart player. He sends out probe scout, JD almost kills it, so he sends it back. JD correctly anticipates Bisu will will send out a second probe scout so he sends 'lings to the other exit from Bisu's base, but Bisu sneaks the second probe scout out instead from where his first scout escaped to.

Scouting the spire threw JD off a little bit, I think. He switched to 5 hatch hydras, but it delayed him just a little bit so that Bisu could kill 4 different overlords with his sairs before JD had any anti-air.


A bit? He spazzed out and cancelled his half-done spire, only to immediately rebuild it. What a stupid, amataur-like mistake against one of the best players in the scene in one of the more important games of the season.

I expected a nail biting game to the finish. Instead, I saw a game that basically involved Jaedong playing catch up all game with Bisu barely breaking a sweat after Jaedong's mistake. With all the anticipation I had for the game, the way the game turned out ruined the day for me.

I totally agree...this is a really good point. I know Heartbreak Ridge is tough for ZvP, but you can't look at a mistake of this magnitude (plus allowing the scout in the first place) and say that Jaedong lost because of map imbalance. Bisu played a better game, fair and square.
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haley
Profile Joined February 2009
64 Posts
June 07 2009 16:38 GMT
#1479
On June 07 2009 18:41 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2009 18:23 ambit!ous1 wrote:
for those of you (JD fans) who are crying about the map balance

the overall ( elimination / pc bang games ) ZvP in Hearbreak Ridge is 19:11


GJ Bisu! <3 Taek Yong!


Yeah it totally doesn't matter that the ratio is less than Z 1:3 P in pro games. jesus.

How can no one respond to this inaccuracy? Right now, it's 6: 9 ZvP on Heartbreak Ridge including the GOM match that happened afterwards. 6: 9 is 2:3, which is greater than 1:3 by a large margin. And assuming this comment was before the GOM match, then it's 5: 9. 5: 9 is 1.67:3, still greater than 1:3.
Meretricious
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada161 Posts
June 07 2009 16:57 GMT
#1480
GG. Thanks for the write-up.
Bisu owned Jaedong pretty bad.
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