this is what we in the business world like to call a monopoly. WCG is all we foreigners have to look forward to each year in terms of big tournies. UNLESS! you can convince someone to get TSL2 started and run it during WCG USA finals and whatnot. COMPETITION FTW.

mmgoose

769 Posts

April 17 2009 10:01 GMT

#42

d level maphackers rejoice, your time has come! haha.

Nal_CrayOn

600 Posts

April 17 2009 10:27 GMT

#43

...;;
no lan-latency?? do they even know about mutal micro??
you cannot win z vs t (idra level) without mutals...

hope wcg-usa follows the korean sc even a "bit".

Lachrymose

Australia1928 Posts

April 17 2009 10:34 GMT

#44

On April 17 2009 19:27 Nal_CrayOn wrote:
...;;
no lan-latency?? do they even know about mutal micro??
you cannot win z vs t (idra level) without mutals...

hope wcg-usa follows the korean sc even a "bit".

you think getting murdered by latency-lurkers and not being able to dodge scourge is more fun?

bias-

United States410 Posts

April 17 2009 10:38 GMT

#45

Exactly.. and to address Day[9]'s post which I completely agree with.. there has to be some bureaucratic structure to WCG, are there any higher ups? I mean.. some kind of punishment for not providing the basics for even, fair play?

So I guess saying I get better games on chaos launcher in op *insert op korean clan*@uswest than I would for WCG isn't an understatement... if nothing changes. Sad state of affairs.

sexsexpussyhair

Canada133 Posts

April 17 2009 11:40 GMT

#46

how about you go protest instead of boycotting....

Alizee-

United States845 Posts

April 17 2009 12:13 GMT

#47

Because protesting says I dont like you and am gonna make a fuss, but I'll end up going along with it. Boycotting says we supported you for years, either show that in return or we're gone.

chobopeon

United States7342 Posts

April 17 2009 12:14 GMT

#48

On April 17 2009 20:40 sexsexpussyhair wrote:
how about you go protest instead of boycotting....

what exactly should they do?

Patriot.dlk

Sweden5462 Posts

April 17 2009 12:15 GMT

#49

Man why can't teamliquid.net organize WCG? Imagine that

Chill

Calgary25987 Posts

April 17 2009 12:16 GMT

#50

LastShadow! Your time is now!

Also, Laurent martyring is cute.

scwizard

United States1195 Posts

April 17 2009 12:31 GMT

#51

WCG must get its money from somewhere. If people don't watch the games because they're ass, and they're ass because the good players don't want to play, then they'll go bankrupt, which has been a trend with foreign esport places these days.

besiger

Croatia2452 Posts

April 17 2009 12:42 GMT

#52

Yeah, but I don't think Starcraft players and viewers make too much of a % of the WCG fan base (maybe they do ? I dont have the numbers), I for one don't follow anything besides SC on WCG, so I don't think they will go bankrupt if SC gets boycotted by players and viewers.

Hammy

France828 Posts

April 17 2009 13:14 GMT

#53

On April 17 2009 21:16 Chill wrote:
LastShadow! Your time is now!

Also, Laurent martyring is cute.

Well to be fair Laurent didn't stand a chance while replying here : ). Everyone is going to immediately side with Day[9] and Inc (and are right to do so in this case). I'm just saying it was pointless of him to reply here in the first place.

Though I don't get it, is there some sort of reason for which there is no lan latency or decent anti-hack? Is there a reason for which the map list is unclear? Or is just a huge lack of coordination, some ridiculously bad organization (as in: a lack of professionalism)?

I feel your pain and frustration guys. It sucks to see such cool stuff going to waste because of some dumb decisions.

anderoo

Canada1876 Posts

April 17 2009 13:14 GMT

#54

wcg is too used to dealing with plug'n'play console gamers who's only complaint is that someone ate doritos and then used their controller

Amber[LighT]

United States5078 Posts

April 17 2009 13:14 GMT

#55

everyone should really boycott. It's probably important that the people who are going to the invitational boycott as well.

Or maybe get a list of gamers who will boycott so they think we just didn't go inactive with the game.

Quanticfograw

United States2053 Posts

April 17 2009 13:15 GMT

#56

Boycotting WCG won't do anything, if anything, that will just make them less interested because USA players will do so poorly and they will think USA doesnt need a spot for BW. Everyones bitching and complaining, and rightfully so, but no one is doing anything about it. That is why I will throw my participating this year to somehow salvage this years WCG and help it.

Ok, I have sent a PM to laurent and I will try and help out WCG as much as humanly possible. I have not been able to be active due to a broken computer and my skill is probably not up to par for me to qualify for an event so I will gladly sit out this year to help make WCG not a total mess. I have competed in WCG the past four years and saw its horrible track record. I am fairly in tune with the community and have seen Starcraft from all angles and aspects. I am a member of ytech (NrG), have been in the west clan Neo.G, and even seen the depths of hell as a member of X17. I actually visited the wcg finals last year and had a blast meeting some cool people as well as learning a few things and since my skill and computer will not let me participate, I will try to help the tournament. Inc if theirs any word you can put it to help me expidite this process and help me help bridge the gap between wcg usa and its players asap let me know. I will do anything needed to help the community and make wcg anticipated for once instead of dreaded. I PMed laurent, sent WCG an email directly and complained on their website so if anyone else can point me in the direction to start putting this train back on tracks let me know, thanks.

reachfortherings

63 Posts

April 17 2009 13:17 GMT

#57

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Centric

United States1989 Posts

April 17 2009 13:23 GMT

#58

Honestly, I don't feel like a boycott would be that effective unless we have an almost complete boycott. If even three or four of the well-known competitive players show up, the protest will be much weaker.

Doso

Germany769 Posts

April 17 2009 13:30 GMT

#59

WCG USA.. hmm.. a yeah that was that fail of an event that you couldn't follow at all. I am not surprised that it's even worse than it looks like from the outside.

GL with the boycott.

Response

United States1936 Posts

April 17 2009 13:40 GMT

#60

I'll boycott just so I dont have to find an excuse why I didn't make the USA finals when all the top tier players weren't playing in it:-P I really agree WCG is horrendous and really needs a completely overhaul to be successful again