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kawoq
Guatemala357 Posts
That will never happen, GameOn is the official ladder of WCG so they will stick to it. Is a shame to see this going on at US no sorprise we at Central America got so many problems last year, there was only like 20 persons on the ladder between 2 countries... I hope you can fix your problems, maybe we will get a better tournament too if you do... | ||
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ZeroCartin
Costa Rica2390 Posts
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
On April 17 2009 16:55 Day[9] wrote: (and stop referring to me by my first name. I have no idea who you are) i rofl'ed anyways WCG US sucks~ gogogo Day | ||
Chill
Calgary25963 Posts
On April 18 2009 00:11 Diomedes wrote: What about creating a shadow qualifier and have all the top players play in that, organized by themselves. You have to do everything WCG USA can't without their resources. Have an official page where people sign up. Either have a ladder for unseeded players or a large qualifier bracket thing. And having offline events is almost impossible since there is no expenses covered and the US is damn huge. Takes some leadership and you probably can get some support from iccup or TL. And then WCG USA can either take that player, backed by basically all USA SC players of any name, or some random nobody that won the official event. If WCG USA refuses then just go to WCG worldwide and play the Idra-card or something. Anyway, all this stuff only works if all players stick together. Same for a boycott. This is really the last chance for WCG, and hence, we could call it the Last Shadow Qualifier. | ||
KwarK
United States41962 Posts
On April 18 2009 04:51 Chill wrote: This is really the last chance for WCG, and hence, we could call it the Last Shadow Qualifier. A Last Shadow Qualifier would really pressure WCG. | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
On April 18 2009 05:02 Kwark wrote: A Last Shadow Qualifier would really pressure WCG. and it would gather huge huge names from all around the world  sounds amazing | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9101 Posts
I agree WCG should do a better job. But unfortunately I don't think they care too much about the national WCG USA SC qualifier. There isn't much money in it for them either way. Although you would think they want to keep their tournament legitimate in a time when other tournaments like ESWC went down the drain. | ||
LosingID8
CA10824 Posts
On April 18 2009 05:02 Kwark wrote: A Last Shadow Qualifier would really pressure WCG. lol | ||
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Diomedes
464 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22250 Posts
On April 18 2009 05:02 Kwark wrote: A Last Shadow Qualifier would really pressure WCG. True, they might shadow rush to a conclusion a little more quickly. | ||
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Flaccid
8828 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7453 Posts
(P.S Lastshadow raped me so hard last night I vowed to never smoke weed and play starcraft again) | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On April 17 2009 23:06 Velr wrote: Little history about WCG Switzerland (only once or twice held for SC/BW). Organisators had no clue about anything - BUT they let us handle the whole event basically by ourselfes (yay casual organisators which had the guts to actually say that he has no clue about SC/BW and appreciated any help). Whole event was very fluent (but Switzerland is small and we could bring the whole thing down at 1 Lan, was more a community meeting with tons of awkward CS/Egoshooter guys around  ).Problem: 1 Chinese was there, his nick was "Lyun)Toss" iirc (studied in Switzerland or something, he did not speak a single word of german or French and basically no english)... Organisation decided he could play (we argued against it). Seriously, he dominated the finals with Corsair/Reaver and no one of us saw this strat executed to a decent level ever before... crushing. He steamrolled nearly everyone (I think he lost about 2 games in total, games that didn't count and where played for fun). He was like 6 month's to 1 year ahead in the SC/BW *evolution* :p). Later WCG decided that he can't play for Switzerland (-.-) Switzerland sends no one. Nice -.-. edit. that man was linyu)toss, confirmed | ||
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Centric
United States1989 Posts
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Tadzio
3340 Posts
For 1) WCG isn't just about BW. If you organize a boycott, the corporates may interpret that as the game being dead. That's bad for BW as e-sports. Demand for BW must remain high. So... 2) A strike may seem in order, but this'll require some organization. You wanna start up a nation-wide (or even international) player's union? I wouldn't suggest half-assing it if you do, cuz it is really easy for a strike to be broken if there isn't a strong union. If the strike breaks, what you're doing becomes an empty gesture that only hurts yourself and those you convince to follow you. I mean... if you were a superstar or you could convince a superstar to follow you, you might be able to affect something, but unfortunately I don't believe USA BW has anyone that qualifies as the face of BW. There's a third option, I guess... you could force capital flight (get WCG's sponsors to back out), but that'd be bad for e-sports in general, would involve massive scale letter writing campaigns, boycotts and strikes (or a new federal tax on e-sports sponsorships, lol) and I wouldn't suggest any of that. A fourth option would be to start up a competitor... Sigh... I think I'm sounding a bit too negative. I think ideally you should work with WCG to make their BW tournaments top-notch... but if they're not listening to you it becomes a really rotten situation. Sad to hear about. Good luck with whatever you decide. If you want it to work, take it seriously and go all the way with it. | ||
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littlechava
United States7216 Posts
wow that's really fucked up :\ | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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Mr.E
United States434 Posts
On April 18 2009 08:05 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Look this sucks but I don't know that singling out Laurent is a great idea. It doesn't sound like he has a great handle about what's going on (given he doesn't seem to know how maps work) so it's natural he would get upset when we all start going at him with demands when he can't understand why they are reasonable and necessary. which brings about the question: Why isn't someone who knows whats going on heading this project? | ||
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