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Sonu
Canada577 Posts
imo, WCG is moronic as a whole. Some countries werent even able to participate (aka Canada, and I believe UK wasnt able to in 2007 right?). WCG needs MAJOR change in their leadership. I am sad that a country such as the US is facing problems with WCG like this... Even though im a Canadian I totally support this boycott | ||
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BalliSLife
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NeO)MasCoT
United States212 Posts
All I have to say is I will NEVER, EVER, fucking forget I had to play in a CIRCUIT CITY VAN for fucking SEMI FINALS... A FUCKING... VAN... 88°F weather... | ||
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BalliSLife
1339 Posts
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ThE_OsToJiY
Canada1167 Posts
If that happens, it will make WCG USA look like more of a joke than sending nobody, so hopefully this DOES happen and they realize how fucked they are going to be. If people are going to spend the time to play in their tournament, then they might as well spend time organizing it, and not halfass a job that many people could easily do much better (and would probably be more than willing) god... its like having a fucking national hockey tournament on a half frozen lake. | ||
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Kerotan
England2109 Posts
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liger13
United States1060 Posts
On April 18 2009 13:21 ThE_OsToJiY wrote: god... its like having a fucking national hockey tournament on a half frozen lake. granted that would be rather entertaining to watch  i say we make it a new rule... | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
doing it this way relies on the assumptions that wcg knows who the good players are and cares if they go and i doubt those are very valid assumptions to make. | ||
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vAltyR
United States581 Posts
On April 18 2009 11:58 ._. wrote: well if all the legit gosus bail, doesn't that mean the shitheads like lastgosu,dino, whats the terrans name, gonna represent WCG for USA? On the bright side, it means we would finally find out the answer to the age-old debate: Can a hacker beat a korean? o.O The way I see it, WCG really needs some competition. Unfortunately, a tournament of that magnitude is really hard to organize which is probably why nobody else has yet. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7465 Posts
On April 18 2009 14:25 IdrA wrote: if you really want this to have any impact you have to make it official, get signatures or something and hope you get an overwhelming amount. doing it this way relies on the assumptions that wcg knows who the good players are and cares if they go and i doubt those are very valid assumptions to make. Would you risk not competing in wcg if you could potentially use your postion to enforce change? | ||
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
On April 18 2009 14:36 vAltyR wrote: On the bright side, it means we would finally find out the answer to the age-old debate: Can a hacker beat a korean? o.O The way I see it, WCG really needs some competition. Unfortunately, a tournament of that magnitude is really hard to organize which is probably why nobody else has yet. i thought that question had been settled with that hungtran vs nada game on longinus ^^ | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On April 18 2009 18:28 AttackZerg wrote: Would you risk not competing in wcg if you could potentially use your postion to enforce change? probably not. either theyre willing to cooperate with the community and theyll make the changes we request without a boycott, given that inc is prodding them, or theyre stubborn/just dont give a shit in which case i hardly think theyre gonna be worried about sending a 2nd class player. if the entire american community rallied behind it and literally no one showed up to their qualifiers it would be a different story, because then theyd be forced to do something. i wont be at the first qualifier anyway because it coincides with eswc, so we'll see what happens. | ||
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RA
Latvia791 Posts
I've been WCG ref in my country for WC3 for 3 years (2003-2005) and I can't say it was in any way bad here, we had BW as well and it's shocking for me that American WCG branch can't organize a tournament properly, it feels like - come on boys, you have your game, we have to give you a chance to play, so play and don't whine - as if it's something UBER cool about WCG as itself, like everyone is dieing to be there... Maybe they consider themselves a monopoly and think it's the only choice for people to prove themselves  I don't consider WCG a top class tournament because of many reasons and with things like these it's even worse for me, that's why I'm not really interested in it anymore besides the fact that I left WC community quite a time ago. For me, these big community tournaments show a lot more. That's why I'm here and following the scene from TL. | ||
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Jono
United States9 Posts
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Gnojfatelob
Belgium216 Posts
BUT... A boycott will fail because there is money in the line, it is as simple as that. Money > ideologies. People will suffer old mappack, people will suffer latency, people will suffer a lot of administration to be enrolled in the tournaments simply because they can earn some money. Any amount will do. If you dont believe me, step away from you computer and into the real world. Money owns ideologies and good principles. Hell it even took you years before you finally did something, took an initiative to change something. THUS... As discussed trough this entire thread, there is no alternative, but to help WCG improve internally. And the perfect way to do so would be to have a well respected community member, with a wealth of experience and perfectly good intentions as a liason to the WCG organisation to help them set up the tournament. He could build strong and good relationships with the organisation and help them, guide them to a better tournament. SO... We had that, {88}Incontrol was the perfect liason to help make WCG better. A good relationship with Laurent, apparantly the man in charge of the SC/BW WCG project, would have helped enormously to make WCG better this year. But despite all good intentions (changes were made in the beginning) somewhere along the way it went wrong, people started flaming, people got offended, pride and personal issues came in between relations and it seems WCG is heading to ruins again. IN CONCLUSION... The only way to make WCG better this year is to restore the partnership between the community and the WCG organisation by restoring the partnership between {88}Incontrol and Laurent. Someone will have to swallow his pride and take the first step in this. But seeing it is probably the last WCG for SC/BW and there are no alternative options (we gotta wait till sc2), mutual apoligies and a renewed motivation as a result can still save this tournament. No more boycot, no more flaming, turn your energy around and use it to improve the WCG. As hard as it may be. | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
 .After big arguments they decided to give out one wildcard to be won between NTT, Nazgul, Oaral and Acraeus. Nazgul won and went as well. | ||
GTR
51513 Posts
On April 18 2009 21:44 Twisted wrote: In the Netherlands the tournament was going so badly in 2001 that all of the decent and good players boycotted the tournament as well. It was on the day itself. The tournament continued and 3 newbies went to Korea .After big arguments they decided to give out one wildcard to be won between NTT, Nazgul, Oaral and Acraeus. Nazgul won and went as well. is that the one where you guys boycotted because NTT got disqualified for showing up like a minute late for his games? that year i think tuig and probe or whatever went? gosh they were bad players. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9105 Posts
On April 18 2009 12:47 Sonu wrote: hey good luck with this imo, WCG is moronic as a whole. Some countries werent even able to participate (aka Canada, and I believe UK wasnt able to in 2007 right?). WCG needs MAJOR change in their leadership. I am sad that a country such as the US is facing problems with WCG like this... Even though im a Canadian I totally support this boycott I'm pretty sure that the fact that Canada didn't send a SC player last year was a decision made on their national WCG level based on limited funding. That's the reason many countries don't send a SC player. SCII is sure to revitalize the funding and interest once it comes out, but it would be nice what is likely to be the last WCG with SC would be run well. | ||
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Kaolla
China2999 Posts
On April 18 2009 21:47 GTR wrote: is that the one where you guys boycotted because NTT got disqualified for showing up like a minute late for his games? that year i think tuig and probe or whatever went? gosh they were bad players. it was and actually pixel, noenoe (not 100% sure on this one) and blub went... because there was only 4 players left and 3 would qualify... they probably normally owuldnt have even survived round 1 -_-; | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13296 Posts
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