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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 19:00:43
April 18 2009 18:57 GMT
#141
WCG sucks? Is this news? lol

(I see the point of the thread though)
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
DrTJEckleburg
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1080 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-18 19:59:03
April 18 2009 19:53 GMT
#142
It's a shame, I played in WCG 2003 for wc3 1v1 and it was a lot of fun, sad to see how the situation is now.

Another thing I want to add is this is exactly the type of thing that happened in CS 1.6, the CPL's from 1999-2003 were absolutely amazing events to attend and they crashed and burned because they did not listen to the community. Their head organizer Angel Rios(this may not be his actual last name, I can't remember) constantly poured bullshit down gotfrag and the 1.6 community's throats until his organization shut down and a great number of cs 1.6 players that participated in the later tournaments were never paid prize money...

Why not swallow what little pride you have left and listen to people like incontrol?
Im pretty good at whistling with my hands, especially when Im holding a whistle.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
April 18 2009 19:57 GMT
#143
tbh this is probably gonna be the last year for SC in WCG. So I say, just forget about everything and just have the USA finals be invite only. It's all just going to be the same people anyway
blabberrrrr
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
April 18 2009 19:58 GMT
#144
On April 18 2009 23:21 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2009 21:47 GTR wrote:
On April 18 2009 21:44 Twisted wrote:
In the Netherlands the tournament was going so badly in 2001 that all of the decent and good players boycotted the tournament as well. It was on the day itself. The tournament continued and 3 newbies went to Korea .

After big arguments they decided to give out one wildcard to be won between NTT, Nazgul, Oaral and Acraeus. Nazgul won and went as well.


is that the one where you guys boycotted because NTT got disqualified for showing up like a minute late for his games?
that year i think tuig and probe or whatever went? gosh they were bad players.


it was and actually pixel, noenoe (not 100% sure on this one) and blub went... because there was only 4 players left and 3 would qualify... they probably normally owuldnt have even survived round 1 -_-;

It was a benelux qualifier right? BluB deserved a spot for belgium. Didn't he even beat nazgul in the WCG Finals?

I know NoeNoe abused his way to a WCG Finals once.
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Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
April 18 2009 20:00 GMT
#145
WCG was a bogus format from the beginning. forcing the koreans to eliminate each other in prelims just to go against the champion from saudi arabia in the semi finals is bullshit
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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
April 18 2009 20:57 GMT
#146
I was very tempted to send emails to Samsung, amBX, and ?Falcon? explaining how I will never buy any of their products because of the incompetency shown by the WCG organization.

That would be immature, however, and ignoring the fact that one email is hardly likely to change anything, and that WCG losing its sponsorship is entirely bad for the community. (Unless someone else got the sponsorship *cough*TSL*cough*)

Hell, the fact that a group of volunteers from a niche community site can run a better tournament than a PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION is just fucking sad.
Luarent, and anyone else responsible for this bullshit should be fired.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42689 Posts
April 18 2009 21:10 GMT
#147
On April 18 2009 13:34 Kerotan wrote:
As a Brit and a pretty terrible player, my name doesn't carry any weight in the US scene, but I guess the majority can do more damage by just not watching/reading, WCG as a whole is becoming worse every year, whole countries not competing, not sending players, its no way to run the E-Olympics as it bills itself.

Last year I emailed the guy running WCGUK and told him about iccup launcher, modern maps, lan latency, known hackers and smurfs and that the finals really ought to be bo5. He was like "yeah, that makes sense, we'll do that" and accepted all of my recommendations without arguing.

It's not a problem with WCG, it's a problem with arrogant admins and excessive bureaucracy.
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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 10:31:19
April 18 2009 21:47 GMT
#148
On April 19 2009 04:58 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2009 23:21 Kaolla wrote:
On April 18 2009 21:47 GTR wrote:
On April 18 2009 21:44 Twisted wrote:
In the Netherlands the tournament was going so badly in 2001 that all of the decent and good players boycotted the tournament as well. It was on the day itself. The tournament continued and 3 newbies went to Korea .

After big arguments they decided to give out one wildcard to be won between NTT, Nazgul, Oaral and Acraeus. Nazgul won and went as well.


is that the one where you guys boycotted because NTT got disqualified for showing up like a minute late for his games?
that year i think tuig and probe or whatever went? gosh they were bad players.


it was and actually pixel, noenoe (not 100% sure on this one) and blub went... because there was only 4 players left and 3 would qualify... they probably normally owuldnt have even survived round 1 -_-;

It was a benelux qualifier right? BluB deserved a spot for belgium. Didn't he even beat nazgul in the WCG Finals?

I know NoeNoe abused his way to a WCG Finals once.


It was pixel, garak and blub.

Blub wasn't all that bad (he won as well and went 2-3 in his group). He didn't win against nazgul lol.

NoeNoe qualified in 2002 for Belgium.
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Mista_Masta
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands557 Posts
April 18 2009 22:39 GMT
#149
On April 19 2009 06:10 Kwark wrote:
Last year I emailed the guy running WCGUK and told him about iccup launcher, modern maps, lan latency, known hackers and smurfs and that the finals really ought to be bo5. He was like "yeah, that makes sense, we'll do that" and accepted all of my recommendations without arguing.

LOL! An attitude like that from the start would've made this thread completely unnecessary from the beginning. Too bad...
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
April 18 2009 23:09 GMT
#150
I'm with you Day

WCG, there are ALREADY METHODS in place that people use EVERY DAY that are far superior than the shit you require to be used for your tourniment. Does that make any sense? No.

Why not allow people, who clearly have the knowledge and skills to bring your tourniment to the level it needs to be, do so? There is absolutely no reason not to.

Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Skew
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1019 Posts
April 18 2009 23:38 GMT
#151
On April 17 2009 16:55 Day[9] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2009 16:48 Laurent wrote:
Sean,

I lashed out at only one community member who finds it easiest to use me as the reason that everything sucks. If defending yourself against constant attacks is wrong, then im wrong. I wont apologize for sticking up for myself.


Lashing out at ANY community member, ESPECIALLY one going to great lengths to help organize your tournament, is absolutely 100% unacceptable.

That said, I'd like to point out to the ENTIRE community why Laurent's above post encapsulates the problem. In his FIRST response to this thread, Laurent says nothing about the tournament, nothing about what he's doing to fix WCG, nothing about helping the community. Instead, Laurent defends himself. Moreover, he defends himself in a situation where he is undeniably in the wrong.

Laurent, allow me to restate myself.

I do not care if you are the root of WCGs problems. I do not care of your co-workers are the root of the problems. I do not care if your bosses are the root of the problems.

There are enormous, unacceptable problems with WCG

Fix it

(and stop referring to me by my first name. I have no idea who you are)


Hahahahahahaha... that last sentence is going to give me joy for at least a week.

It's OK Laurent, they're only mean because they care so much!
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
April 19 2009 00:37 GMT
#152
I don't really know my stance on this. WCG USA sucks and has done so for so long it's laughable. Tournaments I can create in 30 seconds on iCCup are more organized than this annual shit. I remember one year, also ladder-based qualification, where one really good player was left out due to abuses at the top of the ladder: he finished 5th, the 4 best got to go.

Still, I doubt a boycot is the right answer, and we risk losing SC as a WCG game which would really suck. It's also quite clear that Laurent doesn't know what he's doing, but I doubt he can be held responsible for all the bad things.

Ideally WCG would just host the entire thing on iCCup and let that be the end of it. iCCup rules, end of fucking story.
Trying is the first step towards failure, and hope is the first step towards disappointment!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
April 19 2009 00:43 GMT
#153
I think the hopes for this WCG have been inflated too high with iNc getting into that ultimate gamer show. I don't think any of us should have expected any better from WCG, I mean they have been disappointing BW fans for many years now... At this point, with SC2 on the verge, I don't think WCG has any real reason to give a shit about SC.

Of course that doesn't mean I'm fucking pissed with the way WCG is handling themselves.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
April 19 2009 01:14 GMT
#154
sean, laurent used to manage rSgaming. rS.glostik i believe it was?
that reminds me, wat the fuck happened to rS.kilLa or watever it was lOL
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
April 19 2009 08:05 GMT
#155
On April 19 2009 09:43 FragKrag wrote:
I think the hopes for this WCG have been inflated too high with iNc getting into that ultimate gamer show. I don't think any of us should have expected any better from WCG, I mean they have been disappointing BW fans for many years now... At this point, with SC2 on the verge, I don't think WCG has any real reason to give a shit about SC.

Of course that doesn't mean I'm fucking pissed with the way WCG is handling themselves.

Well yes, but I mean it's not just that they aren't doing better, it's that they're managing to do worse somehow.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 19 2009 08:24 GMT
#156
The thing with WCG is they use the gaming market as a huge advertisement for their products. I'm not going to lie though, when I was a referee for WCG they did listen to the gamers as well. I had asked for certain things and they gave them.
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Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
April 19 2009 14:58 GMT
#157
I totally agree with Day[9]'s decision, I'd do the same.
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
RaNgeD
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States733 Posts
April 19 2009 23:15 GMT
#158
I'll be boycotting it too..
It makes me sad because I believe this year I actually had a chance of getting somewhere in WCG. (Not taking 1st obviously)
And I have a feeling by this time next year SC2 will be out..
Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. 1 Corinthians 13:7
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
April 19 2009 23:52 GMT
#159
On April 17 2009 17:00 GTR wrote:
riots will be running around america when lastshadow becomes wcg usa champion

Haha oh god... The end of competitive American starcraft.
hooktits
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States972 Posts
April 20 2009 00:45 GMT
#160
i don't know what to say.... things are soo unorganized its ridiculous i can't even figure out how to register so in a way im forced to boycott ^^
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