• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:25
CEST 14:25
KST 21:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy9ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
Pros React To: SoulKey vs Ample ASL21 General Discussion RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site KK Platform will provide 1 million CNY Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group B [ASL21] Ro24 Group A
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Darkest Dungeon Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12847 users

WCG USA Online Tournament Info - Page 9

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 14 Next All
Laurent
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
April 17 2009 05:51 GMT
#161
Geoff - sending your emails isnt going to make it go any faster. I sent emails to korea a few days ago. I'll get a response just as fast as anyone else.
MachineHead
Profile Joined January 2009
United States151 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 05:59:48
April 17 2009 05:54 GMT
#162
On April 17 2009 14:42 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2009 14:40 MachineHead wrote:
What I'm saying is, by the time that person gets caught, you have already loss. It's not like they are just going to give you a qualifying spot, unless it happened in the final 4 or 2.

I don't look at bw chart after my games, I don't know USA gamers hotkeys... I don't know why the admin would either. Last year, the only person who viewed the replays were the admin(s) (if they even watched...).

you can have someone play for you on a ladder too, if you cant recognize a smurf or hotkey signatures you're not gonna catch someone whether you have 1 or 50 replays to look at.


It's theoretical, but let's assume some noob had someone else play for them. The way I see it is that there are 2 more ways that person could be found out in a ladder than he would in a tourney. Sure, I don't know the hotkeys, but it is a ladder, so he will be playing everyone else, so someone else could easily see that. Or, that information simply gets leaked out, and that person gets removed from the ladder -- no damage done.

What it boils down to: In a ladder, even if someone abuses, if someone notices it -- they won't have an effect on the tournament. In a tourney -- if someone abuses and the admins don't resolve the situation immediately, then the tournament will be effected, whether abuse eventually becomes apparent or not.

Laurent
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
April 17 2009 05:56 GMT
#163
I got a response from Korea about Lan Latency

They are working on adding lan latency right now, but they are unsure of when they will be able to implement it. Also the reason the maps have been stagnant is because Blizzard wont add any new maps to battle.net for WCG.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 17 2009 05:59 GMT
#164
but does it actually change anything to play in the wcg game mode?
just change the launcher to have it recognize a different game mode
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 06:04:00
April 17 2009 06:03 GMT
#165
Laurent I actually had a text conversation/email conversation WITH 2 people we both know the day I had that MSN conversation with you and got no reply(from you) while I got immediate responses->policy changes from the 2 men.. please don't tell me I don't get results faster. As far as we are concerned I am the only one getting results. I am glad to hear you are emailing now but making a post to simply state that my attempts are futile is only going to bring you public shame.. er more of that.
Laurent
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 07:37:29
April 17 2009 06:07 GMT
#166
why dont you ask those 2 men, who did the leg work to get your problems solved......

I never give an answer in these situations before actually receiving one.

And i saw both your text and email conversations. Im well aware of what you discussed. And believe me, you are the one in for some shame.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 06:18:09
April 17 2009 06:16 GMT
#167
I'm not playing in any of the qualifiers, hire me. problem solved >.>

I'll even work for pennies a day
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 17 2009 06:21 GMT
#168
On April 17 2009 15:07 Laurent wrote:
why dont you ask those 2 men, who did the leg work to get your problems solved......

I never give an answer in these situations before actually receiving one.

And i saw both your text and email conversations. Im well aware of what you discussed. And believe me, you are the one in for some shame.



laurent? You really wanna go down this road? I'm not under any fucking contract by wcg in regard to this tourney. It isn't my job to not suck ass like you have. No fucking shit you did the leg work that is your job.. the one you wouldn't do until I had to go around you and speak to some people who would get your ass moving.

God damn you infuriate me. You literally do a shitty job.. I mean you absolutely responded to each of my complaints with "send an email on the gamon website" or "korea makes the decisions, I am powerless" which is bullshit. You COULD have said "I will see to it that these complaints reach the right people" or HELL heres a novel concept you coulda had some backbone and answered the shit from your own brain.. that'd be a blast wouldn't it.

I tried to play nice Laurent but the passive aggressive bullshit in your last message has started a shit storm. I hope to God you are really secure with what you have done thus far.
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
April 17 2009 06:27 GMT
#169
On April 17 2009 15:07 Laurent wrote:
believe me, you are the one in for some shame.



gg !!!! ROFL
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 17 2009 06:30 GMT
#170
and if you truly read those emails/text messages you'd know I clearly state each time "he is a great guy, he just didn't handle this correctly" which is the exact kind of constructive criticism WCG employees NEED to hear when shit like this happens

"believe me you are the one to be put to shame"

What is that childish bullshit? You are the professional here laurent.. act like it.
Laurent
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 06:41:30
April 17 2009 06:34 GMT
#171
Noone got my ass moving , I did it on my own. And you didn't go around anyone. You claimed right after US Finals last year that you would change the world. You basically told everyone that WCG USA was in your back pocket. I havent seen one thing you said was going to happen, actually happen. The difference is , I tell people the truth, how things are. I dont predict the future nor do I attempt to. You think you know everything, but you barely even know whats on the top layer. Actually you are supposed to be the professional , according to you I'm just doing what a warm body would do. Dont forget you are the one saying your going to shame me some more.

Guess what, I responded with the truth. Which is how this should be handled.

AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
April 17 2009 06:40 GMT
#172
hmmm... none of this is helping me get lan lat on 5/18 when I'm going to be putting my heart into qualifying for the first time since there was an offline regional in 03. I care about THAT.

iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 17 2009 06:43 GMT
#173
On April 17 2009 15:34 Laurent wrote:
Noone got my ass moving , I did it on my own. And you didn't go around anyone. You claimed right after US Finals last year that you would change the world. You basically told everyone that WCG USA was in your back pocket. I havent seen one thing you said was going to happen, actually happen. The difference is , I tell people the truth, how things are. I dont predict the future nor do I attempt to. You think you know everything, but you barely even know whats on the top layer. I'm just doing what a warm body would do, just like you stated right?

Guess what, I responded with the truth. Which is how this should be handled.



Oh I see it laurent. You hate me cause I have an optimistic outlook for wcg. I think shit can change. I think people can do things differently. Guess what has changed? The maps. I got them to change the maps. Guess what else has changed? According to your email they are trying to get lan latency in there.. did you mention shit about maps? lan latency? I bet you had NO idea about these things prior to me discussing them.

As far as a bw player goes I do "have wcg in my back pocket" if that means I have direct communication/relationships with the people who make decisions. I am trying to improve something that is really important to this community. Your terrible fucking attitude (you were the guy nay-saying my thread that was trying to raise ideas for improvement -- you are the guy IN THIS THREAD acting ignorant as all hell) is doing nobody any good.

Calling you a warm body was evidently a complement. Making passive aggressive threats to a person who is literally ONLY TRYING TO DO SOME GOOD is gonna get you nowhere bucko. Put your pride where the sun don't shine and maybe you can help this community as oppose to trying this "I am the voice of truth" crap.. we don't buy into the doom and gloom.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
April 17 2009 06:46 GMT
#174
On April 17 2009 15:34 Laurent wrote:
Noone got my ass moving , I did it on my own. And you didn't go around anyone. You claimed right after US Finals last year that you would change the world. You basically told everyone that WCG USA was in your back pocket. I havent seen one thing you said was going to happen, actually happen. The difference is , I tell people the truth, how things are. I dont predict the future nor do I attempt to. You think you know everything, but you barely even know whats on the top layer. Actually you are supposed to be the professional , according to you I'm just doing what a warm body would do. Dont forget you are the one saying your going to shame me some more.

Guess what, I responded with the truth. Which is how this should be handled.


From what I've seen, iNc has said he knows a lot of the people involved in WCG, so he could possibly talk to them and resolve some of the problems that make WCG USA a pile of shit each year.
You have said you can't do anything about the fact that it's a pile of shit because it's ran by WCG Korea. Why are you even here?
Entusman #12
Laurent
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
April 17 2009 07:00 GMT
#175
I dont hate you, I hate how you BOAST about all your contacts and how you are going to make everything better.

Yea you are right, you are optimistic, and im just being a realist. Im not claiming that either is the right way to handle it. But I believe that telling people the truth , and being happily surprised when something does change is better than telling people that things are going to change and playing the waiting game , only making people more frustrated w. no results.

You did take the initiative and polled for the maps, and thats great, but the maps that won your poll that werent originally on the list, havent been changed.

You just dont get that the whole point of coming here was to make sure peoples questions got answered and that they got truthful answers of whats actually going on.

And please, clarify, that you made the threats to shame me first. I chose to fire back.
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
April 17 2009 07:18 GMT
#176
This can only get better
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 17 2009 07:25 GMT
#177
On April 17 2009 16:00 Laurent wrote:
I dont hate you, I hate how you BOAST about all your contacts and how you are going to make everything better.

Yea you are right, you are optimistic, and im just being a realist. Im not claiming that either is the right way to handle it. But I believe that telling people the truth , and being happily surprised when something does change is better than telling people that things are going to change and playing the waiting game , only making people more frustrated w. no results.

You did take the initiative and polled for the maps, and thats great, but the maps that won your poll that werent originally on the list, havent been changed.

You just dont get that the whole point of coming here was to make sure peoples questions got answered and that they got truthful answers of whats actually going on.

And please, clarify, that you made the threats to shame me first. I chose to fire back.


If you could read as well as you could nay-say the organization you work for you'd be able to comprehend what I actually said which was "You are going to shame yourself"

That has nothing to do with ME shaming YOU like you impossibly implied you'd do to me in your post.
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 07:29:30
April 17 2009 07:28 GMT
#178
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=91544
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 07:30:24
April 17 2009 07:30 GMT
#179
On April 17 2009 14:56 Laurent wrote:
I got a response from Korea about Lan Latency

They are working on adding lan latency right now, but they are unsure of when they will be able to implement it. Also the reason the maps have been stagnant is because Blizzard wont add any new maps to battle.net for WCG.


Maps don't need to be added to battle.net. Players can simply download maps and create them on any server, including all battle.net servers
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
sMi.SyMPhOnY
Profile Joined December 2006
United States226 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 07:46:07
April 17 2009 07:44 GMT
#180
what? since when does wcg hire tools

edit: Shit, they always have.

Incontrol forget about it, wcg has never catered to the needs of bw gamers.

It's 2009, why now
:)
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Team League
11:00
Group A
WardiTV543
RotterdaM297
IndyStarCraft 246
TKL 147
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 297
IndyStarCraft 246
TKL 147
SortOf 113
Rex 88
MindelVK 44
Railgan 30
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 45651
Sea 7913
Jaedong 1546
BeSt 584
Shuttle 438
EffOrt 425
Mini 373
Stork 369
actioN 342
firebathero 315
[ Show more ]
Zeus 313
Killer 288
Rush 282
Hyuk 229
Last 219
ZerO 164
ggaemo 150
Light 140
Dewaltoss 128
Soulkey 123
Larva 115
ToSsGirL 106
PianO 99
Hyun 78
hero 69
Backho 61
sSak 59
JYJ 56
Sharp 53
Sea.KH 44
sorry 41
Bale 29
Aegong 24
HiyA 23
GoRush 16
Sacsri 16
Noble 16
Movie 15
IntoTheRainbow 14
Rock 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
SilentControl 6
ivOry 4
Terrorterran 1
Dota 2
Gorgc5858
XaKoH 651
XcaliburYe179
Counter-Strike
fl0m3071
shoxiejesuss2948
x6flipin271
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor110
Other Games
FrodaN5808
singsing2059
B2W.Neo1293
Liquid`RaSZi664
crisheroes336
Fuzer 183
KnowMe162
Mew2King50
ZerO(Twitch)7
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV34
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV541
Upcoming Events
BSL
6h 35m
Replay Cast
11h 35m
Replay Cast
20h 35m
Afreeca Starleague
21h 35m
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
22h 35m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 3h
OSC
1d 11h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 21h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 21h
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-27
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S2: W1
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.