|
|
|
|
|
Daylights savings owns me. 1 more hour of staying up to be able to watch these things live.
Go 2nd best ZvZer of all-time! Go Fake Fake Yellow!
|
It's been a while since I watched Lux play ZvZ, but I have faith that he's still leagues above anybody other than JD.
|
this will be one of the shortest semifinals in history
|
Go Zero!
That would be really weird if he gets into the finals playing all but one ZvZ.
|
Can somebody post the DAUM link?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hungary11291 Posts
Lets see how entertaining they can make ZvZ 
|
wanna see hive play
devourers plagues queens all kind of shit
|
On March 12 2009 18:10 amorpheus wrote:wanna see hive play devourers plagues queens all kind of shit
me too, but ZvZ is always 15 mins muta/ling latelly 
|
omigosh im so starved for live starcraft can't wait to watch this although I am sorta absorbed in Dwarf Fortress right now
|
who's worse vP?
TLPD: Luxury vP = 36-27 (57.14%)
Zero vP = 9-12 (42.86%)
conclusion: GO GO ZERO!!!!
|
On March 12 2009 17:53 soudo wrote:
Daylights savings owns me. 1 more hour of staying up to be able to watch these things live.
Go 2nd best ZvZer of all-time! Go Fake Fake Yellow!
Daylight savings got me as well. I checked and South Korea currently has no DST. 2:00 AM or 2:30 AM starting times during this half of the year sucks.
|
Haha Zero has a likeable face.Hope he wins gogo Zero !!
|
Russian Federation1208 Posts
|
This is lux's season to win the msl and osl
|
go luxury beat this guy with your superior zvz
|
Russian Federation1208 Posts
On March 12 2009 18:10 amorpheus wrote:wanna see hive play devourers plagues queens all kind of shit
Wanna see ultralisks
|
It's easy to assume Lux will take it, but man there have been quite a share of upsets lately. Ya never know. Nonetheless, I'm betting on Lux.
|
On March 12 2009 18:16 deathgod6 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 17:53 soudo wrote:
Daylights savings owns me. 1 more hour of staying up to be able to watch these things live.
Go 2nd best ZvZer of all-time! Go Fake Fake Yellow! Daylight savings got me as well. I checked and South Korea currently has no DST. 2:00 AM or 2:30 AM starting times during this half of the year sucks.
+1. When it hit 4:30 EST I jumped for joy because its the first sc game in 2 days. Needless to say, I got owned =(
Anyways, I LB'ed on Lux, so go Lux!
|
|
|
|
|
zvz is too random, and both are very good at the matchup, dunno wut to predict, but hoping for lux, even though he will probably get raped by toss then in finals =/
|
On March 12 2009 18:22 ZoW wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:16 deathgod6 wrote:On March 12 2009 17:53 soudo wrote:
Daylights savings owns me. 1 more hour of staying up to be able to watch these things live.
Go 2nd best ZvZer of all-time! Go Fake Fake Yellow! Daylight savings got me as well. I checked and South Korea currently has no DST. 2:00 AM or 2:30 AM starting times during this half of the year sucks. +1. When it hit 4:30 EST I jumped for joy because its the first sc game in 2 days. Needless to say, I got owned =( Anyways, I LB'ed on Lux, so go Lux!
Haha, yeah. The last 18:00 match time pwn'd me. At least I knew to show up at the proper time this time around, but damn DST.
|
United States12607 Posts
Go go ZerO!
I'd root for either of these guys in the final but...I think Zero has the best shot at winning it all, so I will pull for him here.
|
Vatican City State1872 Posts
i'll take zero for $25 bucks
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
On March 12 2009 18:28 CrownRoyal wrote:
i'll take zero for $25 bucks
I'll take that, stars good?
pm me with confirmation if you want to do this
|
CA10828 Posts
do you guys even try using the daum sports stream before you ask for VLC?
|
for a matter of fact, yes, i do. and its not working for me
|
|
|
On March 12 2009 18:31 LosingID8 wrote:
do you guys even try using the daum sports stream before you ask for VLC?
Daum almost never works for me, regardless of what browser I use, lol. So, yes, and it's only worked once.
|
|
|
Daum is up and streaming.
|
51449 Posts
|
On March 12 2009 18:21 Bifur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:10 amorpheus wrote:wanna see hive play devourers plagues queens all kind of shit Wanna see ultralisks
Wanna see hold lurkers.
|
|
|
Vatican City State1872 Posts
On March 12 2009 18:31 Vivi57 wrote:I'll take that, stars good? pm me with confirmation if you want to do this
are there any of you other guys who watch sc a lot and like to bet a little bit on the games? it makes it much more entertaining if so, pm me for aim/msn
|
On March 12 2009 18:31 LosingID8 wrote:
do you guys even try using the daum sports stream before you ask for VLC?
I think it's worked maybe 2-3 times for me over the last year. I always try it for whatever reason, but it simply doesn't work. ~~
|
On March 12 2009 18:31 LosingID8 wrote:
do you guys even try using the daum sports stream before you ask for VLC?
I usually try daum every time, but after refreshing 5 or 10 times and each time hanging up my browser I give up. I have yet to see anything from Daum load and make a picture.
The actual Daum player works decently enough though.
|
On March 12 2009 18:32 PhoenixShredds wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:31 LosingID8 wrote:
do you guys even try using the daum sports stream before you ask for VLC? Daum almost never works for me, regardless of what browser I use, lol. So, yes, and it's only worked once.
Have u try yo update the stream page. For me it usaly never works the first 5times a try.
|
ugh daum not working again and ive waited so long too and got ie working for it and jumped on as early as i could
|
Netherlands6142 Posts
On March 12 2009 18:31 LosingID8 wrote:
do you guys even try using the daum sports stream before you ask for VLC?
Daum Sports usually works fine but the screen is so tiny :-/
|
|
|
daum working fine, just refresh...
|
On March 12 2009 18:34 CrownRoyal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:31 Vivi57 wrote:On March 12 2009 18:28 CrownRoyal wrote:
i'll take zero for $25 bucks I'll take that, stars good? pm me with confirmation if you want to do this are there any of you other guys who watch sc a lot and like to bet a little bit on the games? it makes it much more entertaining if so, pm me for aim/msn
I love to gamble. It's in my nature. But alas, my financial situation says "no".
|
On March 12 2009 18:35 Pholon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:31 LosingID8 wrote:
do you guys even try using the daum sports stream before you ask for VLC? Daum Sports usually works fine but the screen is so tiny :-/
double click and make it fullscreen!
|
On March 12 2009 18:36 Highways wrote:RO4?? Whats wrong with Semi finals? + Show Spoiler +
It takes up less screenspace to say Ro4 instead of Semi-finals in korean hangul
|
On March 12 2009 18:37 theuser wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:35 Pholon wrote:On March 12 2009 18:31 LosingID8 wrote:
do you guys even try using the daum sports stream before you ask for VLC? Daum Sports usually works fine but the screen is so tiny :-/ double click and make it fullscreen!
How can you stand to watch it fullscreen? Making any screen larger drives me insane because of the bad resolution.
|
On March 12 2009 18:35 sh02hp0869 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:32 PhoenixShredds wrote:On March 12 2009 18:31 LosingID8 wrote:
do you guys even try using the daum sports stream before you ask for VLC? Daum almost never works for me, regardless of what browser I use, lol. So, yes, and it's only worked once. Have u try yo update the stream page. For me it usaly never works the first 5times a try.
Lol, yes. Trust me, I've spend the entirety of many a match trying to get that "daum" thing to work (lol bad pun). For me, Firefox can load the page, but the player itself won't load (as in not even the face buttons will show). On IE, it has worked once before, but lately the pages won't even register and load at all.
So, with that said, a relay would be greatly appreciated.
|
I want that shrine.
Power of the larvae!
|
|
|
For the love of God, why arent they pressing go already, im so tired >_<
|
On March 12 2009 18:39 ZoW wrote:
White dude spotted.
he looked really embarrassed like he doesn't even know anything about sc
|
On March 12 2009 18:38 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:37 theuser wrote:On March 12 2009 18:35 Pholon wrote:On March 12 2009 18:31 LosingID8 wrote:
do you guys even try using the daum sports stream before you ask for VLC? Daum Sports usually works fine but the screen is so tiny :-/ double click and make it fullscreen! How can you stand to watch it fullscreen? Making any screen larger drives me insane because of the bad resolution.
True that. Full screen is kind of crappy when the default size is a little window.
|
Finally got working stream on daum, now thats called good timing.
go Luxury~~ !
|
On March 12 2009 18:39 Coffee wrote:
For the love of God, why arent they pressing go already, im so tired >_<
Ironic much?
|
On March 12 2009 18:38 PhoenixShredds wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:35 sh02hp0869 wrote:On March 12 2009 18:32 PhoenixShredds wrote:On March 12 2009 18:31 LosingID8 wrote:
do you guys even try using the daum sports stream before you ask for VLC? Daum almost never works for me, regardless of what browser I use, lol. So, yes, and it's only worked once. Have u try yo update the stream page. For me it usaly never works the first 5times a try. Lol, yes. Trust me, I've spend the entirety of many a match trying to get that "daum" thing to work (lol bad pun). For me, Firefox can load the page, but the player itself won't load (as in not even the face buttons will show). On IE, it has worked once before, but lately the pages won't even register and load at all. So, with that said, a relay would be greatly appreciated.
to fix this problem, find the "windows media player" extension for firefox, and it will play.
|
On March 12 2009 18:38 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:37 theuser wrote:On March 12 2009 18:35 Pholon wrote:On March 12 2009 18:31 LosingID8 wrote:
do you guys even try using the daum sports stream before you ask for VLC? Daum Sports usually works fine but the screen is so tiny :-/ double click and make it fullscreen! How can you stand to watch it fullscreen? Making any screen larger drives me insane because of the bad resolution.
i'm watching it on my laptop so making it fullscreen is not that bad. Probably on a big desktop monitor the quality would be a big mess....
|
On March 12 2009 18:40 ZoW wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:39 Coffee wrote:
For the love of God, why arent they pressing go already, im so tired >_< Ironic much?
I dont see the irony. oO. but im awake for this game/games and i want it to end so i can go back to sleep lol.
|
On March 12 2009 18:41 Coffee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:40 ZoW wrote:On March 12 2009 18:39 Coffee wrote:
For the love of God, why arent they pressing go already, im so tired >_< Ironic much? I dont see the irony. oO. but im awake for this game/games and i want it to end so i can go back to sleep lol.
Your username is coffee xD
|
On March 12 2009 18:40 Coffee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:38 PhoenixShredds wrote:On March 12 2009 18:35 sh02hp0869 wrote:On March 12 2009 18:32 PhoenixShredds wrote:On March 12 2009 18:31 LosingID8 wrote:
do you guys even try using the daum sports stream before you ask for VLC? Daum almost never works for me, regardless of what browser I use, lol. So, yes, and it's only worked once. Have u try yo update the stream page. For me it usaly never works the first 5times a try. Lol, yes. Trust me, I've spend the entirety of many a match trying to get that "daum" thing to work (lol bad pun). For me, Firefox can load the page, but the player itself won't load (as in not even the face buttons will show). On IE, it has worked once before, but lately the pages won't even register and load at all. So, with that said, a relay would be greatly appreciated. to fix this problem, find the "windows media player" extension for firefox, and it will play.
Just use ie tab, one click and you can fix any page that doesn't display properly in ff.
starting,
zero white at bottom left
lux bottom right orange
|
Russian Federation1208 Posts
Zero killed Savior, so burn Zero, burn!
|
|
|
On March 12 2009 18:40 Coffee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:38 PhoenixShredds wrote:On March 12 2009 18:35 sh02hp0869 wrote:On March 12 2009 18:32 PhoenixShredds wrote:On March 12 2009 18:31 LosingID8 wrote:
do you guys even try using the daum sports stream before you ask for VLC? Daum almost never works for me, regardless of what browser I use, lol. So, yes, and it's only worked once. Have u try yo update the stream page. For me it usaly never works the first 5times a try. Lol, yes. Trust me, I've spend the entirety of many a match trying to get that "daum" thing to work (lol bad pun). For me, Firefox can load the page, but the player itself won't load (as in not even the face buttons will show). On IE, it has worked once before, but lately the pages won't even register and load at all. So, with that said, a relay would be greatly appreciated. to fix this problem, find the "windows media player" extension for firefox, and it will play.
Thanks for the tip. I'll give it a shot.
|
On March 12 2009 18:40 Coffee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:38 PhoenixShredds wrote:On March 12 2009 18:35 sh02hp0869 wrote:On March 12 2009 18:32 PhoenixShredds wrote:On March 12 2009 18:31 LosingID8 wrote:
do you guys even try using the daum sports stream before you ask for VLC? Daum almost never works for me, regardless of what browser I use, lol. So, yes, and it's only worked once. Have u try yo update the stream page. For me it usaly never works the first 5times a try. Lol, yes. Trust me, I've spend the entirety of many a match trying to get that "daum" thing to work (lol bad pun). For me, Firefox can load the page, but the player itself won't load (as in not even the face buttons will show). On IE, it has worked once before, but lately the pages won't even register and load at all. So, with that said, a relay would be greatly appreciated. to fix this problem, find the "windows media player" extension for firefox, and it will play.
I have the same problem on my other comp, all extensions and addons required installed, but the player shows up only on 1 comp.Strange ><
|
GOOOO ZEEEEROOOOOO! his style is awesome!
|
On March 12 2009 18:41 ZoW wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:41 Coffee wrote:On March 12 2009 18:40 ZoW wrote:On March 12 2009 18:39 Coffee wrote:
For the love of God, why arent they pressing go already, im so tired >_< Ironic much? I dont see the irony. oO. but im awake for this game/games and i want it to end so i can go back to sleep lol. Your username is coffee xD
oh rofl XD! =]. i need some more!
|
Both going north with their overlords
they'll send lings diagonally so whoever goes for the more eco build is ahead
|
Vatican City State1872 Posts
|
9pool speed by zero
12 pool gas by lux
|
oh crap, lux taking his nat, this could end badly
|
On March 12 2009 18:43 Vivi57 wrote:
9pool speed by zero
12 pool gas by lux
when in doubt look at names..
ktf = lux and his colour = orange, problem solved ^_^
|
i meant to quote crown sorry =]
|
Vatican City State1872 Posts
|
lux has lings out in time, but cancels his hatch..
no clue whos ahead after that
|
Dammit, Lux forced to cancel his hatch at nat
|
Vatican City State1872 Posts
On March 12 2009 18:43 Coffee wrote:when in doubt look at names.. ktf = lux and his colour = orange, problem solved ^_^
yeah i didnt notice it had their teams at the top til right before i read your post
|
has anyone got a working stream?
daum sports isn't really working for some reason
|
On March 12 2009 18:42 PhoenixShredds wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:40 Coffee wrote:On March 12 2009 18:38 PhoenixShredds wrote:On March 12 2009 18:35 sh02hp0869 wrote:On March 12 2009 18:32 PhoenixShredds wrote:On March 12 2009 18:31 LosingID8 wrote:
do you guys even try using the daum sports stream before you ask for VLC? Daum almost never works for me, regardless of what browser I use, lol. So, yes, and it's only worked once. Have u try yo update the stream page. For me it usaly never works the first 5times a try. Lol, yes. Trust me, I've spend the entirety of many a match trying to get that "daum" thing to work (lol bad pun). For me, Firefox can load the page, but the player itself won't load (as in not even the face buttons will show). On IE, it has worked once before, but lately the pages won't even register and load at all. So, with that said, a relay would be greatly appreciated. to fix this problem, find the "windows media player" extension for firefox, and it will play. Thanks for the tip. I'll give it a shot.
I think I'm the only one that read this as an intentional pun.
|
On March 12 2009 18:44 Vivi57 wrote:
lux has lings out in time, but cancels his hatch..
no clue whos ahead after that
Wouldn't Zero be? XD
|
looks like zero's won this already lol
|
lux with hatch in main, later spire
zero with later hatch at nat
scourge should be able te defend
RAMP BREAK BY LUX
no speedlings, so he probobly won't be able to force a hatch cancel
forces a sunk atleast
|
On March 12 2009 18:45 deathgod6 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:44 Vivi57 wrote:
lux has lings out in time, but cancels his hatch..
no clue whos ahead after that Wouldn't Zero be? XD
yes. I've got about 5 hours of sleep yesterday and its 2 40 am 
|
lux with amazing muta micro fighting his way back into the game
ZERO WITH NO MUTAS
GG
|
|
|
Lux got this, woo!
Zero ggs
|
On March 12 2009 18:46 Coffee wrote:
looks like zero's won this already lol
wrong lol
|
|
|
|
|
as expected from luxury..
|
Wow.
|
|
|
|
|
On March 12 2009 18:46 Coffee wrote:
looks like zero's won this already lol
lmao. Think again. Lux wins!
|
Wow. I thought Zero had that for sure =O
|
Vatican City State1872 Posts
wow wtf happened there zero didnt micro at all
|
On March 12 2009 18:49 Killer Instinct wrote:wrong lol
i know lux owned me >_< lucky i want him to win :D
|
hahah that wasn't even close, thats right zero go luxury!!
|
1st game took 8 minutes. Great ^.^
Good thing today is Thursday, don't have to go anywhere until 10
|
On March 12 2009 18:46 Coffee wrote:
looks like zero's won this already lol
*facepalm*
|
okay people! stop abusing my fail
|
no one has any vlc links? D:
|
i am staying up today just to see zero lose
|
On March 12 2009 18:49 CrownRoyal wrote:
wow wtf happened there zero didnt micro at all
Of course he did, but chasing these mutas who picked off 1st OL wasnt good idea, considering fleet of scourges who crossed positions with Zero's mutas
|
Has a feeling adverts will be longer than games -_-
|
On March 12 2009 18:50 Coffee wrote:okay people! stop abusing my fail
It was so epic , we just have to :D
|
CA10828 Posts
ok honestly i don't know what zero was doing.
he had the tech advantage and had mutas out wayyyy earlier than luxury. he knew that it was going to be his 1 hatch vs lux's 2 hatch which means he has to do damage fast. but when he got mutas he chased luxury's lings all the way back into his base when he already had a sunk up?
wtf?
can a zerg player explain that decision to me
|
On March 12 2009 18:51 Coffee wrote:
Has a feeling adverts will be longer than games -_-
haha yeah, I was hoping there wouldn't be an ad between games 1 and 2
|
|
|
anyone have the screenshot from the game last week where they showed some black guy with glasses in attendance?
|
This is where Zero's MSL run ends !! Go Luxury double finals !!
|
Zero had quite a number of mutas died to the scourges..
|
On March 12 2009 18:50 imDerek wrote:i am staying up today just to see zero lose
I came from California to see Zero win.
ilikestarcraft came from London to see Zero lose.
lol
|
ZvZ is easily the most boring matchup at a progamer level, I hope all the games aren't muta/scourge micro tourny like that
|
On March 12 2009 18:52 lucky888gunz wrote:
anyone have the screenshot from the game last week where they showed some black guy with glasses in attendance?
yeah my collection of black guys with glasses on audience is lacking this one too!
help~~
|
On March 12 2009 18:51 LosingID8 wrote:
ok honestly i don't know what zero was doing.
he had the tech advantage and had mutas out wayyyy earlier than luxury. he knew that it was going to be his 1 hatch vs lux's 2 hatch which means he has to do damage fast. but when he got mutas he chased luxury's lings all the way back into his base when he already had a sunk up?
wtf?
can a zerg player explain that decision to me
its what we zergs like to call "the fear" being overly offensive can mean you lose those early muta.. since he had an idea of lux's build but not his exact spire timing.. it should have been gg, but it happens.. THE FEAR is a powerful force.
|
On March 12 2009 18:52 lucky888gunz wrote:
anyone have the screenshot from the game last week where they showed some black guy with glasses in attendance?
lol
What a hella weird first post. XD
|
I think Zero sent the Mutas back to get the lings because he didn't have a sunk at his second hatchery. He probably figured he wasn't too far behind if he did so because he delayed Lux's second hatch.
|
Russian Federation1381 Posts
Luxury is a better and more deserving finalist of the two, nice.
|
On March 12 2009 18:53 integral wrote:
ZvZ is easily the most boring matchup at a progamer level, I hope all the games aren't muta/scourge micro tourny like that
Rather watch "boring" 10 minute games rather than TvT any day.
|
Epic WL playoff hype video
Also epic Stork vs Jangbi video too
|
cant wait to see if CJ can win wl! XD!!!!!
|
On March 12 2009 18:51 LosingID8 wrote:
ok honestly i don't know what zero was doing.
he had the tech advantage and had mutas out wayyyy earlier than luxury. he knew that it was going to be his 1 hatch vs lux's 2 hatch which means he has to do damage fast. but when he got mutas he chased luxury's lings all the way back into his base when he already had a sunk up?
wtf?
can a zerg player explain that decision to me
i think the ball was actually in luxury's court to do something before zero's expo got up, because then they would be even on hatches and zero has the extra gas potential, so zero just needed to defend for another ~45 seconds (which obviously failed lol)
|
On March 12 2009 18:52 raga4ka wrote:
This is where Zero's MSL run ends !! Go Luxury double finals !!
double fail is far more likely
|
omg! game 8 mins ads 52 minutes.
|
On March 12 2009 18:54 ZoW wrote:
Epic WL playoff hype video
Also epic Stork vs Jangbi video too
Lol I was going to quote you and mention Almighty vs. Commander but your edit beat me
|
On March 12 2009 18:54 DrywMz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:53 integral wrote:
ZvZ is easily the most boring matchup at a progamer level, I hope all the games aren't muta/scourge micro tourny like that Rather watch "boring" 10 minute games rather than TvT any day.
I like both.
But tvt maybe a bit more since i'm a terran.
Terran vs terran might be "boring" at times, but it also is very deep and lots of stuff can happen.
ZvZ is more or less similar every time, but it has quite a bit of psychology involved (especially in series like bo3 and bo5).
I hope for lots of epic games this series
|
someone should 4pool this next game, i haven't seen that in zvz for too long. (i know it sucks, but since all these people like to 12 pool and other high-econ builds, it could be a free game)
|
i just fell asleep on my knee with my eyes still open! how long can it take to get ready for game 2
|
On March 12 2009 18:59 Coffee wrote:
i just fell asleep on my knee with my eyes still open! how long can it take to get ready for game 2
Mmm .. probably longer than game 1 itself ^^
|
Coffee, 1st time watching MSL,OSL? Quit whining and get some coffe! :O
|
12 mins since the end of the lats game and counting.
would be nice if the games took up atleats half of the broadcast time.
|
-_- no of course its not my first time, it is however my first time of watching after only 3 hours sleep in 2 days, ive been working nights -_-
|
That Nada sandwich is every terran's dream
|
On March 12 2009 19:01 Vivi57 wrote:
12 mins since the end of the lats game and counting.
would be nice if the games took up atleats half of the broadcast time.
agreeeeeeed!
|
do they have more commercials to make up for zvzs short time?
|
lol is that Cartoon Heroes as the BGM
|
something has to be wrong with computers, its never taken this long before.
|
On March 12 2009 18:58 ShinyGerbil wrote:
someone should 4pool this next game, i haven't seen that in zvz for too long. (i know it sucks, but since all these people like to 12 pool and other high-econ builds, it could be a free game)
Lux might. He's been known to throw in the occasional 4 or 5pool.
edit: but if he considers 5pool to be a 50/50 shot, he probably shouldn't do it. He's the better player here.
|
|
|
On March 12 2009 18:57 MuR)Ernu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 18:54 DrywMz wrote:On March 12 2009 18:53 integral wrote:
ZvZ is easily the most boring matchup at a progamer level, I hope all the games aren't muta/scourge micro tourny like that Rather watch "boring" 10 minute games rather than TvT any day. Terran vs terran might be "boring" at times, but it also is very deep and lots of stuff can happen. ZvZ is more or less similar every time, but it has quite a bit of psychology involved (especially in series like bo3 and bo5).
It just gets old having the entire game decided by the same exact air battle almost every game that isn't already over by lings.
|
FINALLY commercials are over
expect your streams to die out in a few seconds
|
hehe. I might just stop watching because of the length of commercials. =/
|
On March 12 2009 19:04 Realpenguin wrote:
FINALLY commercials are over
expect your streams to die out in a few seconds
wow you jinxed it.
-_-
edit:no you didnt't, its back.
:O
|
Any VLC links been posted yet?
|
|
|
lux teal at bottom
zero oj at top
allied color change to lux yellow zero red
|
KTF_Practice, because Zero is just another day of practice. XD
|
Luxury yawning before the game.
|
On March 12 2009 19:05 Sadistx wrote:
Any VLC links been posted yet?
No. But if you have daum player, it's actually working somewhat decently today.
|
12pool vs....
9gas 12pool or something from zero
|
Zero is getting gas b4 pool
Lux is getting his pool.
|
I would love to see ultralisk in ZvZ.. Though i only saw once in my life time, and that is hilarious..
|
Russian Federation41 Posts
The match is boring for lux, he yawns a lot.
|
zero not getting any lings?
but lux isn't attacking so it'll pay off
|
wow Zero's birthday is Feb 18, the same as my gf's. GO ZERO!
|
zero about to be burned for suimping on lings?
|
lux tries to sneak some lings by, but a second lord sees it. probably the first lord saw them
|
Oh no, Lux breaks in with lings again..
|
LUX FORCES A SPIRE CANCEL
|
god damnit for once daum isnt working
|
zero w/ like no lings, lux breaks ramp
|
|
|
|
|
LMAO Zero saw the lings but didn't prepare.
doesnt even cancel spire.
|
Kentor
United States5784 Posts
oh god luxury vs p would be terrible
|
High Risk, didn't pay off.
|
lux's lings >> zero's lings
|
|
|
Looks like it will be 2-0 for Practice...
|
wow. lux's zvz is so good. i almost feel bad for zero
|
more lings coming, this is over =/
|
On March 12 2009 19:10 brjdrb wrote:
wow. lux's zvz is so good. i almost feel bad for zero
And to think i put him on the liquibet..
|
|
|
|
|
And ... back to commercials we go? Lol. I was expecting Zero to put up more of a fight. This is sheer rape
|
|
|
On March 12 2009 19:10 Kentor wrote:
oh god luxury vs p would be terrible
compared to zero it's godlike.
|
Zero is in a 5-0 losing streak against Zerg after beating Savior, wtf?
|
why did he tried to save ling, More Ling won't hurt dumbS
|
LOL! Did Lux just shake his head just now?
|
Luxury sending out more zerglings.
|
Zero doesn't even have speed on lings but lux does.
|
On March 12 2009 19:10 brjdrb wrote:
wow. lux's zvz is so good. i almost feel bad for zero
This game had NOTHING to do with Luxury's ZvZ being good...
|
shouldn't Zero be more prepared for ZvZ? I mean his last 2 rounds were ZvZ while Luxury did other MU
|
|
|
Zero need more rape lesson from fellow zerg players.
|
|
|
|
|
GG.. Lux won again.. Geez..
|
luxury 2-0! yes!!
|
|
|
GG, my LB's happy, how many people from top 7 voted for Zero?<3
|
this is embarassing, savior shame on you.
|
Zero ggs!
If Lux wins the next one in a similar fashion this was hardly worth staying up for.
|
I think its obvious who asked Jaedong to practice with him. lol
|
So disappointing to see such quality in semi final.
|
Wow that zergling hide was brilliant!
|
This may be the fastest competition i'm watching man..
|
Sexy ling hide from Luxury.
|
ugh zvz is definitely the worst matchup
|
On March 12 2009 19:14 deathgod6 wrote:
Zero ggs!
If Lux wins the next one in a similar fashion this was hardly worth staying up for.
if its 3-0 imma be SO pissed im still awake -_-
|
On March 12 2009 19:12 Mooncat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:10 brjdrb wrote:
wow. zero's zvz is so bad. i almost feel bad for savior This game had NOTHING to do, with Luxury's ZvZ being good...
fixed
|
|
|
wow. missing 40 minutes of a bo5 zvz sucks. i missed game 1 and game 2. TT
|
Luxury is just way too good.
|
Russian Federation1381 Posts
Lux ate almost every scourge, wtf.
|
well , u missed like 15mins. 25mins were commercials and such.
|
On March 12 2009 19:14 iLoveKTF wrote:
wow. missing 40 minutes of a bo5 zvz sucks. i missed game 1 and game 2. TT
both games were over in a total of around 16 minutes, you've just missed adverts basically
|
Zero might not have seen the lings with his first ovie, but he definitely saw them with his 2nd one.
|
On March 12 2009 19:14 Coffee wrote:
this is embarassing, savior shame on you.
Is it sAviOr's fault that ZerO is going for weird ultra risky builds against Lux? o.O
|
On March 12 2009 19:12 Mooncat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:10 brjdrb wrote:
wow. lux's zvz is so good. i almost feel bad for zero This game had NOTHING to do, with Luxury's ZvZ being good...
i wasn't just referring to game 2.....
|
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Luxury is now in the same position he was in Ever 2008.
That time he epic failed and gave up a 2-0 lead.
|
Anyone else think this is a pretty good indicator of how savior measures up to other top zergs? To lose to zero like he did and see zero get dominated by luxury like this certainly brings up questions...
|
On March 12 2009 19:15 Mooncat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:14 Coffee wrote:
this is embarassing, savior shame on you. Is it sAviOr's fault that ZerO is going for weird ultra risky builds against Lux? o.O
well since you asked, yes.. he got over confident and now he is playing like a giant piece of zerg poo.
|
On March 12 2009 19:15 TheTyranid wrote:
Luxury is now in the same position he was in Ever 2008.
That time he epic failed and gave up a 2-0 lead.
I'd forgotten about that. But zero isn't dominating like best was.
|
i am so pissed that this is the quality in semi final for such Honorable MSL, and it the only match for today.
|
On March 12 2009 19:15 TheTyranid wrote:
Luxury is now in the same position he was in Ever 2008.
That time he epic failed and gave up a 2-0 lead.
I doubt he`s gonna fail so bad this time x_x At least , I hope not ^_^
|
To the people who think that if Zero loses horribly that means Savior is even worse, that logic is stupid. nuff said.
|
On March 12 2009 19:15 TheTyranid wrote:
Luxury is now in the same position he was in Ever 2008.
That time he epic failed and gave up a 2-0 lead.
WOW i totally forgot about that one
jesus!!! gogo gadget super lux!
|
On March 12 2009 19:15 integral wrote:
Anyone else think this is a pretty good indicator of how savior measures up to other top zergs? To lose to zero like he did and see zero get dominated by luxury like this certainly brings up questions...
To be fair, Zero isn't playing very well today. The magnitude of the occasion seems to be overwhelming him.
|
On March 12 2009 19:15 integral wrote:
Anyone else think this is a pretty good indicator of how savior measures up to other top zergs? To lose to zero like he did and see zero get dominated by luxury like this certainly brings up questions...
Dude, what kind of comparison is this? Zero playing like shit today doesn't mean he's a shitty quality player. The same Zero that Savior faced would be keeping Luxury on his toes.
|
On March 12 2009 19:15 TheTyranid wrote:
Luxury is now in the same position he was in Ever 2008.
That time he epic failed and gave up a 2-0 lead.
I'm sure as hell he wouldn't give it up it now !
|
On March 12 2009 19:17 deathgod6 wrote:
To the people who think that if Zero loses horribly that means Savior is even worse, that logic is stupid. nuff said.
Saviour has been losing to anyone lately prolly due to low form. Zero is just lucky to meet saviour at the his low.
|
Wow what a display of skill difference and utter raaape fest
|
On March 12 2009 19:15 integral wrote:
Anyone else think this is a pretty good indicator of how savior measures up to other top zergs? To lose to zero like he did and see zero get dominated by luxury like this certainly brings up questions...
i disagree. its already been said that zero produces very inconsistent results, and while its impossible to argue that savior is still a top zvz player ( >_< ), i'm pretty sure he's not as bad as zero made him look.
|
On March 12 2009 19:16 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:15 TheTyranid wrote:
Luxury is now in the same position he was in Ever 2008.
That time he epic failed and gave up a 2-0 lead.
I'd forgotten about that. But Luxury isn't choking hard like versus best was.
Fixed
|
As much as commercials annoy me, I just love these rewinds, even if I see these actions for 5th time.
|
51449 Posts
On March 12 2009 19:21 Itachii wrote:
As much as commercials annoy me, I just love these rewinds, even if I see these actions for 5th time.
Maybe lucky, maybe lucky.
Go away, Stay awayyyyyyyyyyyy ooooooooooooooh
|
On March 12 2009 19:17 deathgod6 wrote:
To the people who think that if Zero loses horribly that means Savior is even worse, that logic is stupid. nuff said.
Well, it's certainly logical, but whether it's stupid or not is another matter. What else besides zero's performance against players of differing skill levels is a better indicator of his skill relative to other players? Whether or not savior is as good as zero is of course debatable, and you could use a thousand different metrics to support each player. Suffice to say though, savior got owned by zero and zero's getting owned by luxury...
|
I feel like swearing at this Zero [Edit]for wasting my time[Edit].
|
On March 12 2009 19:21 Itachii wrote:
As much as commercials annoy me, I just love these rewinds, even if I see these actions for 5th time.
Lucky you..
At least you get something good out of it. I just hate the fucking commercials... Especially in ZvZ BoX. There are commercials after every single game, no matter how short it was.
|
bah so they showed Leta's run-by, but not the actual block @gas with medics~strange
|
On March 12 2009 19:23 Itachii wrote:
bah so they showed Leta's run-by, but not the actual block @gas with medics~strange
it's lux's highlight so they showed him ending up behind to make his eventual win look more epic
|
Eh, there could be a thousand reasons why zero's losing to luxury but owned savior, I think I'm just trolling savior fanboys. Sorry.
|
who remembers the good old days with zvz, with julyzerg. like 3 expo's each, camping on spores into HUGE muta fights, or hive tech XD
|
On March 12 2009 19:24 Coffee wrote:
who remembers the good old days with zvz, with julyzerg. like 3 expo's each, camping on spores into HUGE muta fights, or hive tech XD
that sounds epic, link me to some vods
|
On March 12 2009 19:22 integral wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:17 deathgod6 wrote:
To the people who think that if Zero loses horribly that means Savior is even worse, that logic is stupid. nuff said. Well, it's certainly logical, but whether it's stupid or not is another matter. What else besides zero's performance against players of differing skill levels is a better indicator of his skill relative to other players? Whether or not savior is as good as zero is of course debatable, and you could use a thousand different metrics to support each player. Suffice to say though, savior got owned by zero and zero's getting owned by luxury...
Most ZvZ result are usually decided on Mutas fighting out, but zero can't even bring out a Mutas for LOL sake.
|
lux brown at top
zero teal at bottom
|
5tarscream, chill out. These progamers practice over 12 hours everyday, and you complain that he's wasting your time? What's that, like one hour? No one is making you watch these games live.
|
lux 9pool
zero 12hatch or 12pool, hasn't put it down yet
|
|
|
12hatch
AHA BO WIN INCOMING
|
|
|
Uh oh. lol this could be over
|
Vatican City State1872 Posts
god, the game is already over
|
/facepalm
this is going to be 3-0 in less than 25 minutes total
|
zero cancels hatch fast lol
|
wtf is zero doing with this build?!
|
Zero forced to cancel hatch at nat. He is already behind.
|
|
|
well, at least zero saw the lings coming. even though i want lux to win, i'm hoping for some good games
edit: too late, didn't help much anyway
|
|
|
LOL !!!! he doesn't learn and pick up from lesson.
|
On March 12 2009 19:29 29 fps wrote:
wtf is zero doing with this build?!
I guess he is thinking he can take risks now that hes ahead 2-0.
edit: oh wait zero? isn't it luxury doing the 12hatch? oh loool
|
4 drone kills... that's too much for Zero.
|
Zero cancels the 2nd hatch and sunken up.. Lux took down a few drones..
|
How many drones can you lose to 6 lings with sunk at your min line, eh~~
|
Vatican City State1872 Posts
wow that was just silly from lux
|
On March 12 2009 19:29 Puosu wrote:I guess he is thinking he can take risks now that hes ahead 2-0. edit: oh wait zero? isn't it luxury doing the 12hatch?
appropriate januarypalm moment
|
lmao Zero. wtf are you doing.XD
|
Zero still did a 2nd hatch at nat.. Lux with ling speed while Zero dont..
|
Zero very poor to go greedy every game. This is hardly deserving to watch.
|
Vatican City State1872 Posts
zero is winning right now i dunno what you guys are talking about
|
On March 12 2009 19:30 deathgod6 wrote:
lmao Zero. wtf are you doing.XD
losing , apparently
|
Is this really a semi finals.... I have better things to do.
|
maybe zero thought lux would go 12 hatch since hes ahead, and so zero went 12 hatch also. reverse mindgames
|
On March 12 2009 19:31 CrownRoyal wrote:
zero is winning right now i dunno what you guys are talking about
what are you smoking:D
|
Vatican City State1872 Posts
wtf nevermind i take it back luxury is the nuts at zvz
|
boring and easy for lux, i like zvz its usually better than this -_-
|
Ovy down, why why why why tell me why Zero is still playing
|
Some1 has already said lux brown at top while zero tee at bottom.
|
On March 12 2009 19:31 VioleTAK wrote:
Is this really a semi finals.... I have better things to do.
yeah boring at the least
|
|
|
zero defeated savior and show us this performance ?
|
|
|
|
|
such rape.YEAH LUX, YEAH
YES
|
|
|
|
|
On March 12 2009 19:31 CrownRoyal wrote:
zero is winning right now i dunno what you guys are talking about
Lol.. fail =D
|
|
|
|
|
Did Zero just get raped 3 times in a row without any retaliation? Yes, he did. =D
|
|
|
|
|
i have a feeling savior wouldve done better
|
Oh no, lost my liquibets.. Didnt know the games are so one sided..
|
|
|
51449 Posts
has there a more brutal rape than this in a bo5?
i mean up vs jaedong.... but... this is up there.
|
no anytime-like reaction from luxury either
disappointiiiiiiiiing
|
On March 12 2009 19:32 Coffee wrote:
back to bed! :D
Agreed! Fast 3-0 means better health for all ^^
|
Zero is....wow. just wow.
fuck my life! why didn't i sleep!
|
lol the most one-sided series ever ,I've just wasted 40 mins of my life
|
|
|
why did i vote for zero? :C
|
lol what is this? Zero going greedy in every game. The deserving winner surely come from stork/jangbi's bracket.
|
3 time beaten by LINGS. PRO~~
|
Russian Federation1381 Posts
|
Most one sided bo5 since Flash/Stork.
|
CA10828 Posts
On March 12 2009 19:34 GTR wrote:
has there a more brutal rape than this in a bo5?
i mean up vs jaedong.... but... this is up there.
flash vs stork @ bacchus finals?
|
you cant win 2nd best zvz player atm zero you are bad im so pissed that he eliminated savior T_T
|
now I kind of wish savior had advanced, that was just embarrassing for zero
hopefully jangbi vs stork will at least be good games
|
How many people LB'ed Zero GTR?
|
|
|
lol
T_________T back to bed
|
Zurich15328 Posts
EZ Liquibet points :-DDDD
|
On March 12 2009 19:34 Sadistx wrote:
lmao nice
|
And i thought Zero had a better ZvZ than Lux.. He was a lil greedy with his muta build.. All the games are lost cos of the aggressive lings at headstart..
|
On March 12 2009 19:34 Arceus wrote:
lol the most one-sided series ever ,I've just wasted 40 mins of my life
You should learn how to multitask man, then you wont waste any minutes.
|
On March 12 2009 19:34 29 fps wrote:
i have a feeling savior wouldve done better
2nd
Everyone was aware that ZerO's inconsistent. But why couldn't his "I suck rhino balls"-mode kick in a little earlier...
|
[Edit]Not[Edit] me, i've pass this LB since Lux form was so inconsistent.
|
lol.. my internet went down so I missed the matches.
But hey Coffee, after I got my internet back up and running, I found that your tip to install the WMP plugin worked. Weird part is I actually did have it installed without knowing it, but I installed it again anyway, and now Daum is working on FF. And yes, the previous version was enabled. Weird, but either way cool.
|
I've never been a Zero fan, so this is good news! :D
|
OP, change the spoiler of exceptionally good games and put NONE in it.
|
Liquibet Rank 5
thats right, I am comming for you
|
On March 12 2009 19:36 zatic wrote:
EZ Liquibet points :-DDDD
yeah :D
|
|
|
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Stork, you MUST beat PvZ monster Jangbi.
Zerg have not won MSL for 2 straight seasons now. That is the biggest drought since the first Zerg MSL win. Shit is not acceptable.
Son Byun Gu fighting!
|
|
|
One of the worst semis I've ever seen. Can't say I ever expected anything from Zero. :/
Oh well, at least lux is in the finals, he deserves that much.
|
9/10 Doctors recommend 9pool
|
Zero may have Muta micro at Jaedong and Luxury's level but when you suck at BOs in ZvZ you don't win them ... The chances that Luxury and Jaedong will get a BO loss are slim to none as their percentage in ZvZ show's it ...
|
Wow, talk about rating turd. 3-0 ZvZ's got to suck for MBC.
Really annoyed that Luxury won though, because now we can look forward some a bunch of all-in and cheeses in the finals. At least Zero's willing to play macro game ZvP.
|
Rooting for Luxury in the finals, though he probably won't win.
|
Wow, so bad by Zero, just wow...
I now hope jangbi crushes stork and then he's gonna have fun tearing Luxury a new hole!
|
I expect Zero to put in some good games, but turn out disappointing..
|
On March 12 2009 19:36 Urth wrote:lmao nice
LOL, Gotta love this Poster
|
Seriously, I refuse to believe this is the same Zero who pushed Jaedong to the limit. Wtf happened man? =\
|
On March 12 2009 19:38 baubo wrote:
Wow, talk about rating turd. 3-0 ZvZ's got to suck for MBC.
Really annoyed that Luxury won though, because now we can look forward some a bunch of all-in and cheeses in the finals. At least Zero's willing to play macro game ZvP.
If Jangbi gets to the finals he doesn't deserve the respect of straight up play.
This was nada's msl. He destroyed so many dreams in that quarterfinal.
|
Russian Federation4333 Posts
On March 12 2009 19:38 baubo wrote:
Wow, talk about rating turd. 3-0 ZvZ's got to suck for MBC.
Really annoyed that Luxury won though, because now we can look forward some a bunch of all-in and cheeses in the finals. At least Zero's willing to play macro game ZvP.
Luxury's ZvP has really improved, this isn't Bacchus OSL. I'm certain that a Luxury final will be much better than a Zero final.
|
luxury sending zero back to where he belongs in 3 sets... now i can sleep
|
now lux just needs to get godly zvp like jd did and dominate the finals.
|
On March 12 2009 19:37 TheTyranid wrote:
Stork, you MUST beat PvZ monster Jangbi.
Zerg have not won MSL for 2 straight seasons now. That is the biggest drought since the first Zerg MSL win. Shit is not acceptable.
Son Byun Gu fighting!
huh? it was a 3 season drought b4 jaedong won
|
|
|
On March 12 2009 19:38 baubo wrote:
Wow, talk about rating turd. 3-0 ZvZ's got to suck for MBC.
Really annoyed that Luxury won though, because now we can look forward some a bunch of all-in and cheeses in the finals. At least Zero's willing to play macro game ZvP.
I would be happy if either lux or jangbi won, both of them really deserve a win by now.
|
On March 12 2009 19:39 MooiSh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:38 baubo wrote:
Wow, talk about rating turd. 3-0 ZvZ's got to suck for MBC.
Really annoyed that Luxury won though, because now we can look forward some a bunch of all-in and cheeses in the finals. At least Zero's willing to play macro game ZvP. If Jangbi gets to the finals he doesn't deserve the respect of straight up play. This was nada's msl. He destroyed so many dreams in that quarterfinal.
Except you forgot that nada lost and jangbi won, therefore jangbi deserves to advance.
|
Hopefully the other semi-final *cough* battle for the silver *cough* should be more entertaining, or should i say, longer.
|
On March 12 2009 19:40 TheTyranid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:38 baubo wrote:
Wow, talk about rating turd. 3-0 ZvZ's got to suck for MBC.
Really annoyed that Luxury won though, because now we can look forward some a bunch of all-in and cheeses in the finals. At least Zero's willing to play macro game ZvP. Luxury's ZvP has really improved, this isn't Bacchus OSL. I'm certain that a Luxury final will be much better than a Zero final.
I think Yellow[Anrc] are better than Lux at this time.
|
On March 12 2009 19:38 baubo wrote:
Wow, talk about rating turd. 3-0 ZvZ's got to suck for MBC.
Really annoyed that Luxury won though, because now we can look forward some a bunch of all-in and cheeses in the finals. At least Zero's willing to play macro game ZvP.
Actually, Luxury's macro game in ZvP is amazing. I'm really looking forward to him beating either jangBi or Stork. ^_^
|
On March 12 2009 19:39 ZoW wrote:
Seriously, I refuse to believe this is the same Zero who pushed Jaedong to the limit. Wtf happened man? =\
bo5s are different
|
On March 12 2009 19:40 brjdrb wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:37 TheTyranid wrote:
Stork, you MUST beat PvZ monster Jangbi.
Zerg have not won MSL for 2 straight seasons now. That is the biggest drought since the first Zerg MSL win. Shit is not acceptable.
Son Byun Gu fighting! huh? it was a 3 season drought b4 jaedong won
It was like a 12 season drought before gorush/july won msl/osl in 04, can't say 2 or 3 seasons are a drought.
|
Russian Federation4333 Posts
On March 12 2009 19:40 brjdrb wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:37 TheTyranid wrote:
Stork, you MUST beat PvZ monster Jangbi.
Zerg have not won MSL for 2 straight seasons now. That is the biggest drought since the first Zerg MSL win. Shit is not acceptable.
Son Byun Gu fighting! huh? it was a 3 season drought b4 jaedong won
You're right my bad. Dumbass Bisu and his MSL domination.
|
On March 12 2009 19:41 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:39 MooiSh wrote:On March 12 2009 19:38 baubo wrote:
Wow, talk about rating turd. 3-0 ZvZ's got to suck for MBC.
Really annoyed that Luxury won though, because now we can look forward some a bunch of all-in and cheeses in the finals. At least Zero's willing to play macro game ZvP. If Jangbi gets to the finals he doesn't deserve the respect of straight up play. This was nada's msl. He destroyed so many dreams in that quarterfinal. Except you forgot that nada lost and jangbi won, therefore jangbi deserves to advance.
Oh no, i know jangbi won. I have just become bitter over the days since the 5set
I have taken to writing poetry on my rocking chair and telling kids to get off my lawn, rifle in hand. It's a bleak future for us Lee yoon yeol supporters.
|
CA10828 Posts
On March 12 2009 19:41 5tarscream wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:40 TheTyranid wrote:On March 12 2009 19:38 baubo wrote:
Wow, talk about rating turd. 3-0 ZvZ's got to suck for MBC.
Really annoyed that Luxury won though, because now we can look forward some a bunch of all-in and cheeses in the finals. At least Zero's willing to play macro game ZvP. Luxury's ZvP has really improved, this isn't Bacchus OSL. I'm certain that a Luxury final will be much better than a Zero final. I think Yellow[Anrc] are better than Lux at this time.
lol what
|
On March 12 2009 19:43 TheTyranid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:40 brjdrb wrote:On March 12 2009 19:37 TheTyranid wrote:
Stork, you MUST beat PvZ monster Jangbi.
Zerg have not won MSL for 2 straight seasons now. That is the biggest drought since the first Zerg MSL win. Shit is not acceptable.
Son Byun Gu fighting! huh? it was a 3 season drought b4 jaedong won You're right my bad. Dumbass Bisu and his MSL domination.
Bisu are the Pwnzor.
|
serously? yellow better than lux? what're you smoking
|
JangBi will take up Stork's throne as the King of Second place when he loses the finals to Lux.
|
On March 12 2009 19:36 5tarscream wrote:
[Edit]Not[Edit] me, i've pass this LB since Lux form was so inconsistent.
LoL geting in to the semis in arguebly both leagues is consistent i don't know about you .
|
On March 12 2009 19:46 soudo wrote:
JangBi will take up Stork's throne as the King of Second place when he loses the finals to Lux.
yellow will always be the king of second place, not stork
|
On March 12 2009 19:40 TheTyranid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:38 baubo wrote:
Wow, talk about rating turd. 3-0 ZvZ's got to suck for MBC.
Really annoyed that Luxury won though, because now we can look forward some a bunch of all-in and cheeses in the finals. At least Zero's willing to play macro game ZvP. Luxury's ZvP has really improved, this isn't Bacchus OSL. I'm certain that a Luxury final will be much better than a Zero final.
I actually think he's gonna win this. He's a creative dude, and he seemed pretty disappointed at Bacchus, after he went from 2-0 to 2-3 like that. I don't think he wants to make the same mistake again.
Unless, of course, he's too busy practicing for OSL and the Winner's League playoffs.
|
On March 12 2009 19:47 brjdrb wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:46 soudo wrote:
JangBi will take up Stork's throne as the King of Second place when he loses the finals to Lux. yellow will always be the king of second place, not stork
Yellow was the first to be King of Second place. Stork was second to inherit that honor, that makes him TRUE king of second places. He's even second at getting second.
|
Sucks that I got my internet back up and the Daum working after the matches.
|
On March 12 2009 19:47 brjdrb wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:46 soudo wrote:
JangBi will take up Stork's throne as the King of Second place when he loses the finals to Lux. yellow will always be the king of second place, not stork
Yup since Stork already got himself an OSL gold !
All Luxury has to do now is blow away bad fantasy tommorow , and from then on its just 12 hours of practise ZvP with good PvZ partners and he has it made !
|
Russian Federation4333 Posts
This whole Stork/Jangbi as Neo-YellOw bullshit has got to go. Neither of them is a legend of YellOw's caliber.
Besides Stork WON A STARLEAGUE, stop these jokes already.
It just as bad as the toss 1a2a3a4aGG jokes.
|
this was one of the gayest semi-final i've seen
|
On March 12 2009 20:00 Pepsicolaone wrote:
this was one of the gayest semi-final i've seen
When there is a gap in skills between the players a rape is almost insured ...
|
How did Savior lose to this?
|
On March 12 2009 19:40 TheTyranid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:38 baubo wrote:
Wow, talk about rating turd. 3-0 ZvZ's got to suck for MBC.
Really annoyed that Luxury won though, because now we can look forward some a bunch of all-in and cheeses in the finals. At least Zero's willing to play macro game ZvP. Luxury's ZvP has really improved, this isn't Bacchus OSL. I'm certain that a Luxury final will be much better than a Zero final.
You obviously haven't seen Luxury's ZvP recently. Let me give you a hint. It's not as a macro style zerg ala Savior back in his glory days.
On March 12 2009 19:39 MooiSh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 19:38 baubo wrote:
Wow, talk about rating turd. 3-0 ZvZ's got to suck for MBC.
Really annoyed that Luxury won though, because now we can look forward some a bunch of all-in and cheeses in the finals. At least Zero's willing to play macro game ZvP. If Jangbi gets to the finals he doesn't deserve the respect of straight up play. This was nada's msl. He destroyed so many dreams in that quarterfinal.
So every player who beats Nada should not be respected? What kind of fucked up logic is that?
|
/surprise
and by that i mean not really
|
Luxury is going to win this MSL !
|
Russian Federation4333 Posts
On March 12 2009 20:16 baubo wrote:
You obviously haven't seen Luxury's ZvP recently. Let me give you a hint. It's not as a macro style zerg ala Savior back in his glory days.
You obviously like replying in a condescending manner. Let me give you a hint, you don't have to play a macro style game to make an epic series. What you do need is to be good enough so you don't get raped 3-0 and produce an even series. This Luxury can do, can't say the same for Zero.
|
Luxury's macro is some of the best around ._.
|
On March 12 2009 20:09 RowdierBob wrote:
How did Savior lose to this?
Savior isn't very good. Simple as that.
|
On March 12 2009 20:33 sushiman wrote:Savior isn't very good. Simple as that.
Zero played pretty well vs Savior
not like today
|
On March 12 2009 20:28 TheTyranid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 20:16 baubo wrote:
You obviously haven't seen Luxury's ZvP recently. Let me give you a hint. It's not as a macro style zerg ala Savior back in his glory days. You obviously like replying in a condescending manner. Let me give you a hint, you don't have to play a macro style game to make an epic series. What you do need is to be good enough so you don't get raped 3-0 and produce an even series. This Luxury can do, can't say the same for Zero.
I responded that way to emphasize my original point, which you apparently did not comprehend. I never said anything about Luxury's ability as a ZvPer. Just his style.
|
On March 12 2009 20:41 amorpheus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 20:33 sushiman wrote:On March 12 2009 20:09 RowdierBob wrote:
How did Savior lose to this? Savior isn't very good. Simple as that. Zero played pretty well vs Savior not like today
lol he lost his nerves, and we all know that Savior isn't that good in his mirror match up.
|
Russian Federation1612 Posts
Stork vs Luxury final pleaseeee!
|
On March 12 2009 20:09 RowdierBob wrote:
How did Savior lose to this?
Savior has been bad for a long time, where have you been. He never "got back".
|
On March 12 2009 21:00 Zoler wrote:Savior has been bad for a long time, where have you been. He never "got back".
Is this the part of the thread where we pretend Savior didn't have a 9 win streak when 2009 hit?
C'mon, give credit where credit is due.
It was the starcraft equivalent of Babe Ruth pointing out to the stands before hitting a bunch of home runs.
|
Uhh, Luxury vs zero game 2? he saw the lings coming out and made drones... 4 lings on the ramp cant hold 10 or so speedlings, and the sunk was waaaaay late, he didnt cancel the spire when it was obv he couldn't hold it. poor kid fell apart.
|
|
|
I can't believe how people are seriously thinking Luxury can take this MSL... He may have cheesed his way through Leta but he won't be able to pull it off against JangBi. On the off chance that Stork beats JangBi, things could get interesting though.
|
Sick! I cracked a big smile when I saw the results as I was expecting a Luxury facepalm series. I honestly think he can win MSL this season if he puts his heart to it. He has the talent! Go Lux. KTF pride!
|
Damn Lux! Bringin' the fire.
|
On March 12 2009 22:05 Vasoline73 wrote:
Sick! I cracked a big smile when I saw the results as I was expecting a Luxury facepalm series. I honestly think he can win MSL this season if he puts his heart to it. He has the talent! Go Lux. KTF pride!
"Luxury facepalm series" should be considered a generic phrase.
|
On March 12 2009 19:34 GTR wrote:
has there a more brutal rape than this in a bo5?
i mean up vs jaedong.... but... this is up there.
I thought Pusan/July was bad, but this was worse
|
i was expecting a pretty even series....
but gj Luxury
hope he takes this MSL
|
On March 12 2009 22:00 Mooncat wrote:
I can't believe how people are seriously thinking Luxury can take this MSL... He may have cheesed his way through Leta but he won't be able to pull it off against JangBi. On the off chance that Stork beats JangBi, things could get interesting though.
Huh? Luxury is 8-2 in the last 10 ZvP including wins over Jangbi, Bisu and Stork. And you think he has no chance? Jangbi's recent PvZ record isn't solid at all.
|
On March 12 2009 22:00 Mooncat wrote:
I can't believe how people are seriously thinking Luxury can take this MSL... He may have cheesed his way through Leta but he won't be able to pull it off against JangBi. On the off chance that Stork beats JangBi, things could get interesting though.
I know right? At least we (may) have JangBi in the finals to represent honest, standard, non-cheesy play.
|
Braavos36375 Posts
its guaranteed that luxury is playing a samsung player
and you guys are saying he has no chance? its a final
|
There all sorts of boundless silver jokes that are going to go on, I can feel it.
Flash-Stork was pretty one-sided.
|
Stork beating JangBi isn't an off-chance. It's the future.
|
On March 12 2009 23:10 infinity2k9 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 22:00 Mooncat wrote:
I can't believe how people are seriously thinking Luxury can take this MSL... He may have cheesed his way through Leta but he won't be able to pull it off against JangBi. On the off chance that Stork beats JangBi, things could get interesting though.
Huh? Luxury is 8-2 in the last 10 ZvP including wins over Jangbi, Bisu and Stork. And you think he has no chance? Jangbi's recent PvZ record isn't solid at all.
As far as I can remember, most of those wins are quite cheesy.
This series has a really depressing result :-(
|
On March 12 2009 19:55 TheTyranid wrote:
This whole Stork/Jangbi as Neo-YellOw bullshit has got to go. Neither of them is a legend of YellOw's caliber.
Besides Stork WON A STARLEAGUE, stop these jokes already.
It just as bad as the toss 1a2a3a4aGG jokes.
didn't YellOw win a starleague?
|
yep, Luxury is doing pretty well in this msl thing. Might even win against one of those silly protosses in the finals.
|
On March 12 2009 22:00 Mooncat wrote:
I can't believe how people are seriously thinking Luxury can take this MSL... He may have cheesed his way through Leta but he won't be able to pull it off against JangBi. On the off chance that Stork beats JangBi, things could get interesting though.
Have you even seen how much Luxury's ZvP has improved over the past six months?
|
I think Luxury can take the MSL but I also think that Jangbi could. Luxury might have a better chance because he isn't traumatized from getting 2 silvers in a row and Jangbi might have a better chance because he has been in 2 finals, granted they were both against Bisu and when you play Bisu the only thing you get from it is sore ass ( unless you are Jaedong).
|
|
|
On March 12 2009 23:16 Hot_Bid wrote:
its guaranteed that luxury is playing a samsung player
and you guys are saying he has no chance? its a final
That's if he plays Jangbi.
If he plays stork this rule no longer really applies, and as shown Stork pretty much rapes Bo series.
|
On March 12 2009 22:57 lxginverse wrote:
i was expecting a pretty even series....
but gj Luxury
hope he takes this MSL
|
On March 13 2009 00:59 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 23:16 Hot_Bid wrote:
its guaranteed that luxury is playing a samsung player
and you guys are saying he has no chance? its a final That's if he plays Jangbi. If he plays stork this is especially true. Stork has shown he gets raped in finals.
fixed
|
On March 13 2009 01:11 haz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 00:59 Jayme wrote:On March 12 2009 23:16 Hot_Bid wrote:
its guaranteed that luxury is playing a samsung player
and you guys are saying he has no chance? its a final That's if he plays Jangbi. If he plays stork this is especially true. Stork has shown he gets raped in finals. fixed
He has a gold, jokes over and getting really really old. You can stop now.
|
On March 13 2009 00:34 Dgtl wrote:
I think Luxury can take the MSL but I also think that Jangbi could. Luxury might have a better chance because he isn't traumatized from getting 2 silvers in a row and Jangbi might have a better chance because he has been in 2 finals, granted they were both against Bisu and when you play Bisu the only thing you get from it is sore ass (unless you are by.hero).
|
On March 12 2009 23:10 infinity2k9 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 22:00 Mooncat wrote:
I can't believe how people are seriously thinking Luxury can take this MSL... He may have cheesed his way through Leta but he won't be able to pull it off against JangBi. On the off chance that Stork beats JangBi, things could get interesting though.
Huh? Luxury is 8-2 in the last 10 ZvP including wins over Jangbi, Bisu and Stork. And you think he has no chance? Jangbi's recent PvZ record isn't solid at all.
Yes, that's true. But the vast majority of those were single games. Of course Luxury can win single games against pretty much anyone, because he's a creative and cheesy player. I never said he can't take a game from JangBi or Stork but I highly doubt he can win a BoX against them, especially not a Bo5. And yes, I know it is a final. Anything can happen.
|
Hong Kong20321 Posts
|
I don't think it's merely because Zero played bad. You forget that players look godly against lesser competition, and when they run into someone really good they come back to earth.
|
On March 13 2009 01:19 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 01:11 haz wrote:On March 13 2009 00:59 Jayme wrote:On March 12 2009 23:16 Hot_Bid wrote:
its guaranteed that luxury is playing a samsung player
and you guys are saying he has no chance? its a final That's if he plays Jangbi. If he plays stork this is especially true. Stork has shown he gets raped in finals. fixed He has a gold, jokes over and getting really really old. You can stop now.
Everyone! Take time to read this over and over again.
|
On March 13 2009 01:53 Hugo(Sphere) wrote:
I don't think it's merely because Zero played bad. You forget that players look godly against lesser competition, and when they run into someone really good they come back to earth.
ZerO beat Jaedong in a ZvZ.
His skill is not really questionable but his consistency is.
|
On March 13 2009 01:19 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 01:11 haz wrote:On March 13 2009 00:59 Jayme wrote:On March 12 2009 23:16 Hot_Bid wrote:
its guaranteed that luxury is playing a samsung player
and you guys are saying he has no chance? its a final That's if he plays Jangbi. If he plays stork this is especially true. Stork has shown he gets raped in finals. fixed He has a gold, jokes over and getting really really old. You can stop now.
But then he got second in WCG and IEF.
|
United States12607 Posts
Wow, poor ZerO...definitely expected this series to be more competitive.
Can anyone recommend a game? Or were they all brutal murders?
|
Second is funny...he looks at the Lings coming ...and didnt build anything.
|
On March 13 2009 02:10 JWD wrote:Wow, poor ZerO...definitely expected this series to be more competitive. Can anyone recommend a game? Or were they all brutal murders?
All brutal murders. Well... actually the 2nd and the 3rd could be considered brutal suicides.
|
Ouch... ZerO got flayed alive...
After many years and tries, Luxury is finally in a SL final.
|
So are any of these games worth watching? I'm not too surprised, but somewhat disappointed... oh well let's hope the finals are good.
|
On March 13 2009 02:26 mO.Palantir wrote:
Second is funny...he looks at the Lings coming ...and didnt build anything. Nobody seems to understand that game...
1. Luxury hid his first 6 zerglings.
2. Luxury moved out with 4 zerglings, the overlord saw it. Zero: "I can build one round of drones and then zerglings, and I'll still be able to hold it off."
3. While Zero's overlord couldn't see, Luxury brought his hidden six zerglings out, and two more that just spawned.
Then Zero had 4 lings on the ramp and Luxury had 12 zerglings attacking the ramp.
What Zero did was right, it was just Luxury being clever.
|
Hong Kong20321 Posts
lol wow i just watched the games. what a rrrrrrrrrrrrape.
|
I cannot believe that I will actually be rooting for a samsung player due to the outcome of this series....
|
I think the outcome of the final will be as follows:
Luxury > JangBi or Luxury < Stork.
I think JangBi's PvZ is not that good, despite his 60% win rate. He has consistently shown he can beat weak zergs, but gets pwned by S class zergs.
Stork will beat Luxury in a 5 game series I think. People have claimed that Stork is slumping, but he's doing really well. He'll probably win in the OSL this week too, against Jaedong.
|
On March 13 2009 03:30 zincsterio wrote:
I think the outcome of the final will be as follows:
Luxury > JangBi or Luxury < Stork.
I think JangBi's PvZ is not that good, despite his 60% win rate. He has consistently shown he can beat weak zergs, but gets pwned by S class zergs.
Stork will beat Luxury in a 5 game series I think. People have claimed that Stork is slumping, but he's doing really well. He'll probably win in the OSL this week too, against Jaedong.
Where do you people get this garbage? Jangbi has very good PvZ, I mean.. really he does.
|
On March 13 2009 03:35 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 03:30 zincsterio wrote:
I think the outcome of the final will be as follows:
Luxury > JangBi or Luxury < Stork.
I think JangBi's PvZ is not that good, despite his 60% win rate. He has consistently shown he can beat weak zergs, but gets pwned by S class zergs.
Stork will beat Luxury in a 5 game series I think. People have claimed that Stork is slumping, but he's doing really well. He'll probably win in the OSL this week too, against Jaedong. Where do you people get this garbage? Jangbi has very good PvZ, I mean.. really he does.
Idk, maybe from the same people who keep saying Lux's zvp is bad. Look forward to Luxury 5 pooling these guys in game 1 and then they are completely thrown off their game. Look at Luxury's last 10-15 he has many quality wins against dragons. Jangbi's is just not quite as impressive. Jangbi or Stork can win, but give Lux a chance.
|
On March 13 2009 02:10 JWD wrote:Wow, poor ZerO...definitely expected this series to be more competitive. Can anyone recommend a game? Or were they all brutal murders?
They were all brutal murders, but Luxury absolutely pwned Zero in game 2 with a really cool strategy.
|
On March 13 2009 03:08 Orbifold wrote:
So are any of these games worth watching? I'm not too surprised, but somewhat disappointed... oh well let's hope the finals are good.
Game 1 and 2. In Game 1, Luxury is significantly behind then comes back to win it somehow. Game 2, Zero is tricked by Luxury where Zero committed his larvae to drones instead of lings.
|
It is better that Luxury made it to the finals than Zero. Zero's ZvP is even worse than Luxury and we know how good Luxury's ZvP is . Though Stork and Jangbi's PvZ are strong, Luxury's chances are better if he faces Jangbi instead of Stork. In the OSL, Stork 2-0 one of the twins as well as beating JulyZerg to make it out of the group.
|
On March 13 2009 00:01 Calyx wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 23:10 infinity2k9 wrote:On March 12 2009 22:00 Mooncat wrote:
I can't believe how people are seriously thinking Luxury can take this MSL... He may have cheesed his way through Leta but he won't be able to pull it off against JangBi. On the off chance that Stork beats JangBi, things could get interesting though.
Huh? Luxury is 8-2 in the last 10 ZvP including wins over Jangbi, Bisu and Stork. And you think he has no chance? Jangbi's recent PvZ record isn't solid at all. As far as I can remember, most of those wins are quite cheesy. This series has a really depressing result :-(
Luxury vs Yoonjoong - You could say that was cheesy, but I'm confident he'd have won anyway.
Luxury vs JangBi - an amazing comeback by Luxury after Jangbi took his third base out. Great macro and great mutalisk sniping with mass hydra.
Luxury vs Stork - Stork didn't get enough cannons and Luxury's 3 hatch muta into hydraswitch broke him.
Luxury vs Bisu - 5pool, Bisu's pylon to main was quite late... not sure why that is. Anyway, after the 5pool Bisu had like 12 probes and Luxury had 8 drones with a second base coming. I wouldn't say Luxury won because of the opening, but yeah it had something to do with it.
Luxury vs Best - loss
Luxury vs Kal 1 - Luxury opened 9pool speed into 6 lings and double expand. Kal went sair Reaver, Luxury defended it beautifully and completely overran him with mass hydras afterwards. Luxury's macro was amazing in this game as well.
Luxury vs Kal 2 - Kal went for a cannon rush, Luxury defended it beautifully by glitching drones through the minerals by getting to the cannons. Then he ran some lings past Kal's cannons, killed probes, finished with mutas
Luxury vs Jaehoon - Luxury went for 9-pool speed into a ~12 speedling runby. You could say that that's cheesy, but on a flat map like Medusa I actually consider it a standard opening. Luxury managed to sneak about 5 lings inside and killed numerous probes to seal the victory.
Luxury vs Nbs - loss
Sooo about most of the games being cheesy... I'm going to assume that you're a huge Bisu fan and only watch his games. Am I correct?
|
On March 13 2009 01:53 LordWeird wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 01:19 Jayme wrote:On March 13 2009 01:11 haz wrote:On March 13 2009 00:59 Jayme wrote:On March 12 2009 23:16 Hot_Bid wrote:
its guaranteed that luxury is playing a samsung player
and you guys are saying he has no chance? its a final That's if he plays Jangbi. If he plays stork this is especially true. Stork has shown he gets raped in finals. fixed He has a gold, jokes over and getting really really old. You can stop now. Everyone! Take time to read this over and over again.
+1!
I can't believe people still posting about this holy sh.... It's not even funny
|
stoopid zero. he takes out savior then gets his ass handed to him.
im kind of surprised it looks like it was easy for lux, but apparently a couple games were pretty epic comebacks. gratz to luxury... but i think even making it one more round would have helped sAviOrs confidince more. i just hope he is working on his Patrol-click muta micro so he can deal better with Zergs in the future. im not too worried about his vP or vT... he uses the zerg well enough for that.
okay /end fanboy rant
|
good job luxury!
but now all the savior fans are pissed o_o~!!
|
grats to luxury for the win, and i like how he tricked zero in the 2nd game. I kinda feel bad for zero tho, he didnt even get one win
|
JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
Yes Lux this your MSL!!! Take it from the silver miners!! Bleh........if only this Zero showed up against MJY.
|
ZerO.
You were the chosen one!
|
I think people are forgetting that the zerg twins have always played very aggressively.
|
On March 13 2009 04:44 GrimAngel wrote:grats to luxury for the win, and i like how he tricked zero in the 2nd game. I kinda feel bad for zero tho, he didnt even get one win
Omg, one guy writes about Luxury "tricking" ZerO in game 2 and now everyone's like "yay yay that was really cool how he tricked him in game 2" As a matter of fact, Luxury didn't trick him AT ALL. True, he hid his zerglings. But that didn't really play a role in this game, because as ZerO's overlord was moving towards Luxury's base he didn't see any lings at all at the ramp, but he hadn't seen the base yet. It was very well possible that Luxury could be stacking lings somewhere near his hatch, so ZerO should've at least considered it as a possibility. Just because players usually move their lings to the ramp and/or move out immediately, doesn't mean they have to.
Thus it was careless by ZerO to go for so few lings so late. When ZerO actually saw Luxury's lings running out, he saw ALL OF THEM including the "hidden" ones. So what he actually did was go for a total amount of 4 late zerglings without scouting information. And even when he saw all of the lings moving out he produced another 1 or 2 drones before producing another 4 zerglings, which popped by the time Luxury was already in his base.
No tricking, no genius, no cleverness by Luxury, nothing. Just really bad/careless/risky play by ZerO. Maybe Luxury TRIED to do something tricky, otherwise he probably wouldn't have moved those 6 zerglings up in he corner, but against any half-way safe zerg build it wouldn't have worked.
|
On March 13 2009 04:15 Zoler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 01:53 LordWeird wrote:On March 13 2009 01:19 Jayme wrote:On March 13 2009 01:11 haz wrote:On March 13 2009 00:59 Jayme wrote:On March 12 2009 23:16 Hot_Bid wrote:
its guaranteed that luxury is playing a samsung player
and you guys are saying he has no chance? its a final That's if he plays Jangbi. If he plays stork this is especially true. Stork has shown he gets raped in finals. fixed He has a gold, jokes over and getting really really old. You can stop now. Everyone! Take time to read this over and over again. +1! I can't believe people still posting about this holy sh.... It's not even funny
What's even worse are the Jangbi silver jokes that are popping up because he's on Samsung and he lost to like... Bisu I think
|
On March 13 2009 06:01 Mooncat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 04:44 GrimAngel wrote:grats to luxury for the win, and i like how he tricked zero in the 2nd game. I kinda feel bad for zero tho, he didnt even get one win Omg, one guy writes about Luxury "tricking" ZerO in game 2 and now everyone's like "yay yay that was really cool how he tricked him in game 2" As a matter of fact, Luxury didn't trick him AT ALL. True, he hid his zerglings. But that didn't really play a role in this game, because as ZerO's overlord was moving towards Luxury's base he didn't see any lings at all at the ramp, but he hadn't seen the base yet. It was very well possible that Luxury could be stacking lings somewhere near his hatch, so ZerO should've at least considered it as a possibility. Just because players usually move their lings to the ramp and/or move out immediately, doesn't mean they have to. Thus it was careless by ZerO to go for so few lings so late. When ZerO actually saw Luxury's lings running out, he saw ALL OF THEM including the "hidden" ones. So what he actually did was go for a total amount of 4 late zerglings without scouting information. And even when he saw all of the lings moving out he produced another 1 or 2 drones before producing another 4 zerglings, which popped by the time Luxury was already in his base. No tricking, no genius, no cleverness by Luxury, nothing. Just really bad/careless/risky play by ZerO. Maybe Luxury TRIED to do something tricky, otherwise he probably wouldn't have moved those 6 zerglings up in he corner, but against any half-way safe zerg build it wouldn't have worked.
Well sorry, my mistake then, I thought that due to zero's overlord spotting the first few lings moving out, he made a drone instead of more lings.
|
Lux can totally beat Jangbi or Stork. his zvp isn't on the level of JD or July, but it certainly is no slouch.
Also Jangbi's PvZ record is super over-inflated due to like 10 wins over yarnc last year lol
|
I think kespa should make all ZvZs no rush 15.
edit: After posting I realized I am actually not kidding.
|
Just watched the vods. Luxury just completely our played Zero. Sad to see such a disappointing semifinal.
|
When that many zerglings come, you build lings, not drones. The fact that Zero built drones is the best proof that he didn't see all the zerglings come from Luxury's base. Even if he did, it was too late to use the larvae for something else.
|
lux's zvp really isn't that great. it's good, but it's not at the level of jaedong / july. and i think that lux has what it takes to perform (i.e. not choke) well in the finals. that said, i think he has a better chance against jangbi than stork. while jangbi is past choking (i guess that's what two consecutive finals vs bisu does to you), his series play isn't as focused on mind games as stork's is. stork can definitely beat lux (3-2), especially since he's probably practicing pvz 24/7 right now to beat jaedong. either way, they should produce some good games
edit: i hope that this isn't a repeat of the ever 2007 osl, where jaedong lost one game then discovered his zvp powers and then destroyed stork. that was depressing =(
|
Taken from the translated interview about Game 2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89391
+ Show Spoiler +On Destination, you beautifully tricked your opponent
Luxury: On Destination, people usually expand quickly and get 2 gas on opening, so when my opponent's overlord came flying in... he probably thought I expanded somewhere already... so in order to get an advantage... he went with econ.. so I seized the opportunity..
|
Lux just plain outplayed Zero. Sure, Zero has fantastic muta micro, but if that's all it took to win ZvZ then JD wouldn't be at such a sick win rate in the MU. It has just as much to do with metagame and savvy. Lux is a longtime vet of ZvZ and he was only underdog to JD. I liquibetted Zero just for the hell of it, but it doesn't come as any surprise that Lux won. Lux's play was way more intelligent. Zero was just plain OFF on all his timings and he was so damn greedy with some of his builds. Game 2 and 3 were especially bad.
On Lux vs Stork or JB...Stork's already beaten Lux in Bacchus OSL Bo5. He's also beaten JD and July in Bo3 for WCG. And he's lifetime record 8-8 vs JD. Wtf are some people talking like Stork and JB would get crushed by Lux? Stork has said several times in interviews that JangBi helps him practice vZ and gives him pointers. If Stork can epically rape Lux, how bad do you think JangBi would? Alot of people seem to just have it stuck in their head that Stork is C- PvZ. He's an S-class player. Respect. There's a reason Lux isn't ranked up there with the superstars YET.
|
wow need to check out games
gj lux better luck next time zero
|
this was a lot more one-sided then i thought it would be. zero is slightly disappointing. i had hope that he would be the next superstar but i guess not.
|
On March 13 2009 04:06 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 00:01 Calyx wrote:On March 12 2009 23:10 infinity2k9 wrote:On March 12 2009 22:00 Mooncat wrote:
I can't believe how people are seriously thinking Luxury can take this MSL... He may have cheesed his way through Leta but he won't be able to pull it off against JangBi. On the off chance that Stork beats JangBi, things could get interesting though.
Huh? Luxury is 8-2 in the last 10 ZvP including wins over Jangbi, Bisu and Stork. And you think he has no chance? Jangbi's recent PvZ record isn't solid at all. As far as I can remember, most of those wins are quite cheesy. This series has a really depressing result :-( Luxury vs Yoonjoong - You could say that was cheesy, but I'm confident he'd have won anyway. Luxury vs JangBi - an amazing comeback by Luxury after Jangbi took his third base out. Great macro and great mutalisk sniping with mass hydra. Luxury vs Stork - Stork didn't get enough cannons and Luxury's 3 hatch muta into hydraswitch broke him. Luxury vs Bisu - 5pool, Bisu's pylon to main was quite late... not sure why that is. Anyway, after the 5pool Bisu had like 12 probes and Luxury had 8 drones with a second base coming. I wouldn't say Luxury won because of the opening, but yeah it had something to do with it. Luxury vs Best - loss Luxury vs Kal 1 - Luxury opened 9pool speed into 6 lings and double expand. Kal went sair Reaver, Luxury defended it beautifully and completely overran him with mass hydras afterwards. Luxury's macro was amazing in this game as well. Luxury vs Kal 2 - Kal went for a cannon rush, Luxury defended it beautifully by glitching drones through the minerals by getting to the cannons. Then he ran some lings past Kal's cannons, killed probes, finished with mutas Luxury vs Jaehoon - Luxury went for 9-pool speed into a ~12 speedling runby. You could say that that's cheesy, but on a flat map like Medusa I actually consider it a standard opening. Luxury managed to sneak about 5 lings inside and killed numerous probes to seal the victory. Luxury vs Nbs - loss Sooo about most of the games being cheesy... I'm going to assume that you're a huge Bisu fan and only watch his games. Am I correct?
Uh but... those were ALL best of 1.
This is going to be a best of 5, something you obviously know is quite a different beast. Remember Luxury is that guy that went mass ling against Archons 
It's improved sure, his real test will be against a protoss in 5 though.
|
On March 13 2009 06:12 GrimAngel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 06:01 Mooncat wrote:On March 13 2009 04:44 GrimAngel wrote:grats to luxury for the win, and i like how he tricked zero in the 2nd game. I kinda feel bad for zero tho, he didnt even get one win Omg, one guy writes about Luxury "tricking" ZerO in game 2 and now everyone's like "yay yay that was really cool how he tricked him in game 2" As a matter of fact, Luxury didn't trick him AT ALL. True, he hid his zerglings. But that didn't really play a role in this game, because as ZerO's overlord was moving towards Luxury's base he didn't see any lings at all at the ramp, but he hadn't seen the base yet. It was very well possible that Luxury could be stacking lings somewhere near his hatch, so ZerO should've at least considered it as a possibility. Just because players usually move their lings to the ramp and/or move out immediately, doesn't mean they have to. Thus it was careless by ZerO to go for so few lings so late. When ZerO actually saw Luxury's lings running out, he saw ALL OF THEM including the "hidden" ones. So what he actually did was go for a total amount of 4 late zerglings without scouting information. And even when he saw all of the lings moving out he produced another 1 or 2 drones before producing another 4 zerglings, which popped by the time Luxury was already in his base. No tricking, no genius, no cleverness by Luxury, nothing. Just really bad/careless/risky play by ZerO. Maybe Luxury TRIED to do something tricky, otherwise he probably wouldn't have moved those 6 zerglings up in he corner, but against any half-way safe zerg build it wouldn't have worked. Well sorry, my mistake then, I thought that due to zero's overlord spotting the first few lings moving out, he made a drone instead of more lings.
No problem. Sorry if my post sounded a little harsh or anything, I didn't mean to pick on you. I just took the last post mentioning the "hiding thing" to quote 
|
Mannnnn. Zero just got dismantled. I am sad now.
|
I love how so many people in this topic think Zero is a terrible player just because he had a bad day, by the way. Apparently you're not allowed to have a bad day or you're shit.
|
Well it's not like getting destroyed even once has no meaning. When a player loses badly it is something. When FBH got 0-3ed by Bisu it was sad, sure it was only one series but it did show how much FBH still had to go.
I wouldn't say Zero is a bad player because of this series, but it certainly grounds the hopes of Zero's fans.
|
On March 13 2009 09:14 Jaksiel wrote:
I love how so many people in this topic think Zero is a terrible player just because he had a bad day, by the way. Apparently you're not allowed to have a bad day or you're shit.
Considering how much these guys train, and that Zero has had ONLY ZvZ matchups in this MSL, except for one game vs bisu, while luxury has had both MSL and OSL with every different MU to train for, you'd expect he'd do a little better than this.
|
On March 13 2009 06:28 Zozma wrote:
When that many zerglings come, you build lings, not drones. The fact that Zero built drones is the best proof that he didn't see all the zerglings come from Luxury's base. Even if he did, it was too late to use the larvae for something else. He took forever to add the sunken too. I watched it this morning so maybe my memory is a little off, but I remember his overlord having vision of ALL of Lux's lings as they left his base, while ZerO had 4 lings at his ramp. He could have laid down a sunken immediately and not taken nearly as much damage, but he did it when they were busting his ramp.
Really disappointing play by ZerO.
|
I was right about Luxury tricking him... check the winners interview.
HA! YEAH! WHOOP!
Uh... yeah.
|
On March 13 2009 10:54 Zozma wrote:
I was right about Luxury tricking him... check the winners interview.
HA! YEAH! WHOOP!
Uh... yeah.
Maybe you should watch the game again instead of reading interviews. VOD is up on youtube. As I said, Luxury was TRYING to trick ZerO. That doesn't change the fact that ZerO went for his late 4lings without having any scouting information. Maybe he thought Luxury had a hidden expo when he saw no lings at his ramp, but only a short time later he saw the lings running by his overlord.
Even if he didn't see them, the latest possible moment in the game where ZerO definitely saw ALL the lings coming was when they crossed the bridge exiting Luxury's base. If he had immediately placed a sunken by then he'd have been perfectly fine.
Btw. I don't even believe that ZerO actually thought there was a hidden expansion. Why would he do that? Just for the hell of it? Destination might be a map where hidden expos are common in ZvZ. But that doesn't justify Luxury basing his strategy on ZerO having a "bad feeling there might be an expo" since he didn't have any valid scouting information. I'd like to hear ZerO's point of view on this.
|
On March 13 2009 09:31 BlackMagister wrote:
Well it's not like getting destroyed even once has no meaning. When a player loses badly it is something. When FBH got 0-3ed by Bisu it was sad, sure it was only one series but it did show how much FBH still had to go.
I wouldn't say Zero is a bad player because of this series, but it certainly grounds the hopes of Zero's fans.
Just so happens FBH also knocked Savior out of an MSL in the Ro8.
Came home late to check the results and although I was hopeful in ZerO, I wasn't surprised. Although ZerO's mutalisk control may be amazing, in terms of all the other quirks in ZvZ, Lux has got him topped.
|
well if zero did so badly against lux... wouldn't that mean savior would get raped even more if he advanced?
|
On March 13 2009 08:14 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 04:06 Shikyo wrote:On March 13 2009 00:01 Calyx wrote:On March 12 2009 23:10 infinity2k9 wrote:On March 12 2009 22:00 Mooncat wrote:
I can't believe how people are seriously thinking Luxury can take this MSL... He may have cheesed his way through Leta but he won't be able to pull it off against JangBi. On the off chance that Stork beats JangBi, things could get interesting though.
Huh? Luxury is 8-2 in the last 10 ZvP including wins over Jangbi, Bisu and Stork. And you think he has no chance? Jangbi's recent PvZ record isn't solid at all. As far as I can remember, most of those wins are quite cheesy. This series has a really depressing result :-( Luxury vs Yoonjoong - You could say that was cheesy, but I'm confident he'd have won anyway. Luxury vs JangBi - an amazing comeback by Luxury after Jangbi took his third base out. Great macro and great mutalisk sniping with mass hydra. Luxury vs Stork - Stork didn't get enough cannons and Luxury's 3 hatch muta into hydraswitch broke him. Luxury vs Bisu - 5pool, Bisu's pylon to main was quite late... not sure why that is. Anyway, after the 5pool Bisu had like 12 probes and Luxury had 8 drones with a second base coming. I wouldn't say Luxury won because of the opening, but yeah it had something to do with it. Luxury vs Best - loss Luxury vs Kal 1 - Luxury opened 9pool speed into 6 lings and double expand. Kal went sair Reaver, Luxury defended it beautifully and completely overran him with mass hydras afterwards. Luxury's macro was amazing in this game as well. Luxury vs Kal 2 - Kal went for a cannon rush, Luxury defended it beautifully by glitching drones through the minerals by getting to the cannons. Then he ran some lings past Kal's cannons, killed probes, finished with mutas Luxury vs Jaehoon - Luxury went for 9-pool speed into a ~12 speedling runby. You could say that that's cheesy, but on a flat map like Medusa I actually consider it a standard opening. Luxury managed to sneak about 5 lings inside and killed numerous probes to seal the victory. Luxury vs Nbs - loss Sooo about most of the games being cheesy... I'm going to assume that you're a huge Bisu fan and only watch his games. Am I correct? Uh but... those were ALL best of 1. This is going to be a best of 5, something you obviously know is quite a different beast. Remember Luxury is that guy that went mass ling against Archons It's improved sure, his real test will be against a protoss in 5 though.
You know how my post was a response to his claim about cheesy play, right?
|
On March 13 2009 09:14 Jaksiel wrote:
I love how so many people in this topic think Zero is a terrible player just because he had a bad day, by the way. Apparently you're not allowed to have a bad day or you're shit.
I love how so many people on the previous topics thought that the Zero was the best player because he had a good day vs Jaedong by the way. Apparently if you have a good day vs the best zerg in the world it makes you S+.
:>
|
On March 13 2009 10:54 Zozma wrote:
I was right about Luxury tricking him... check the winners interview.
HA! YEAH! WHOOP!
Uh... yeah.
Luxury tricked him by hiding his first six zerglings, but ZerO's overlord had vision of them when they left his base to go attack. Nice strategy by Lux, but poor on ZerO's part.
|
On March 14 2009 00:25 Boblion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 09:14 Jaksiel wrote:
I love how so many people in this topic think Zero is a terrible player just because he had a bad day, by the way. Apparently you're not allowed to have a bad day or you're shit. I love how so many people on the previous topics thought that the Zero was the best player because he had a good day vs Jaedong by the way. Apparently if you have a good day vs the best zerg in the world it makes you S+. :>
No one thinks Zero is the "best player", not even me. There are just people, who (JUSTIFIABLY SO) think Zero has the potential to be at that level someday, based on how well he plays at his best. Do you remember his game earlier in this MSL where he knocked out Bisu? That was some amazing StarCraft.
|
On March 13 2009 09:48 sushiman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 09:14 Jaksiel wrote:
I love how so many people in this topic think Zero is a terrible player just because he had a bad day, by the way. Apparently you're not allowed to have a bad day or you're shit. Considering how much these guys train, and that Zero has had ONLY ZvZ matchups in this MSL, except for one game vs bisu, while luxury has had both MSL and OSL with every different MU to train for, you'd expect he'd do a little better than this.
I don't know if you should expect more from Zero here. People tend to forget that after JD's ZvZ, Lux is next best in a class by himself. I hate to point at ELOs because they're just statistics but... go look at ZvZ ELO rankings/peaks.
|
LOL @ Lux is a "cheesy" player. He didn't win vs Leta just by cheesing, he won by being ballsier, smarter and overall a better Bo5 player. Those qualities go a long way. "Real" Starcraft isn't just winning 40 minute "standard" games by smacking your keyboard faster, its about winning Bo3s and Bo5s by whatever means necessary. There's no "cheese" in a Bo5 and no one gives a crap who was mechanically more solid.
|
On March 13 2009 12:17 Mooncat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 10:54 Zozma wrote:
I was right about Luxury tricking him... check the winners interview.
HA! YEAH! WHOOP!
Uh... yeah. Maybe you should watch the game again instead of reading interviews. VOD is up on youtube. As I said, Luxury was TRYING to trick ZerO. That doesn't change the fact that ZerO went for his late 4lings without having any scouting information. Maybe he thought Luxury had a hidden expo when he saw no lings at his ramp, but only a short time later he saw the lings running by his overlord. Even if he didn't see them, the latest possible moment in the game where ZerO definitely saw ALL the lings coming was when they crossed the bridge exiting Luxury's base. If he had immediately placed a sunken by then he'd have been perfectly fine. Btw. I don't even believe that ZerO actually thought there was a hidden expansion. Why would he do that? Just for the hell of it? Destination might be a map where hidden expos are common in ZvZ. But that doesn't justify Luxury basing his strategy on ZerO having a "bad feeling there might be an expo" since he didn't have any valid scouting information. I'd like to hear ZerO's point of view on this. Whoa... I'm sorry to bump the thread, but... you know, disagreeing with ME is fine, but... are you really claiming to know more about ZvZ than freaking Luxury?
|
On March 14 2009 04:54 bludragen88 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 09:48 sushiman wrote:On March 13 2009 09:14 Jaksiel wrote:
I love how so many people in this topic think Zero is a terrible player just because he had a bad day, by the way. Apparently you're not allowed to have a bad day or you're shit. Considering how much these guys train, and that Zero has had ONLY ZvZ matchups in this MSL, except for one game vs bisu, while luxury has had both MSL and OSL with every different MU to train for, you'd expect he'd do a little better than this. I don't know if you should expect more from Zero here. People tend to forget that after JD's ZvZ, Lux is next best in a class by himself. I hate to point at ELOs because they're just statistics but... go look at ZvZ ELO rankings/peaks.
No he's not. Luxury is not in a class by himself when it comes to ZvZ. It's Jaedong and then Zero/Savior/Luxury (typically). The main problem with ZerO is that the bastard is so freaking streaky that he sometimes plays AMAZING and then plays really BAD.
That ELO peak was awhile ago and means pretty much nothing.
|
|
|
Zero 0 skill 0 Performance
|
On March 14 2009 13:34 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2009 04:54 bludragen88 wrote:On March 13 2009 09:48 sushiman wrote:On March 13 2009 09:14 Jaksiel wrote:
I love how so many people in this topic think Zero is a terrible player just because he had a bad day, by the way. Apparently you're not allowed to have a bad day or you're shit. Considering how much these guys train, and that Zero has had ONLY ZvZ matchups in this MSL, except for one game vs bisu, while luxury has had both MSL and OSL with every different MU to train for, you'd expect he'd do a little better than this. I don't know if you should expect more from Zero here. People tend to forget that after JD's ZvZ, Lux is next best in a class by himself. I hate to point at ELOs because they're just statistics but... go look at ZvZ ELO rankings/peaks. No he's not. Luxury is not in a class by himself when it comes to ZvZ. It's Jaedong and then Zero/Savior/Luxury (typically). The main problem with ZerO is that the bastard is so freaking streaky that he sometimes plays AMAZING and then plays really BAD. That ELO peak was awhile ago and means pretty much nothing.
What? are you serious? luxury's zvz in the same class as zero and savior?
|
savior > zero > luxury prob...
|
ma jae yooooooooooooooooooooooon~
|
LOL how can any of you say that Savior's ZvZ is better or equal to Luxury's.
|
On March 14 2009 23:23 iLoveKTF wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2009 13:34 Jayme wrote:On March 14 2009 04:54 bludragen88 wrote:On March 13 2009 09:48 sushiman wrote:On March 13 2009 09:14 Jaksiel wrote:
I love how so many people in this topic think Zero is a terrible player just because he had a bad day, by the way. Apparently you're not allowed to have a bad day or you're shit. Considering how much these guys train, and that Zero has had ONLY ZvZ matchups in this MSL, except for one game vs bisu, while luxury has had both MSL and OSL with every different MU to train for, you'd expect he'd do a little better than this. I don't know if you should expect more from Zero here. People tend to forget that after JD's ZvZ, Lux is next best in a class by himself. I hate to point at ELOs because they're just statistics but... go look at ZvZ ELO rankings/peaks. No he's not. Luxury is not in a class by himself when it comes to ZvZ. It's Jaedong and then Zero/Savior/Luxury (typically). The main problem with ZerO is that the bastard is so freaking streaky that he sometimes plays AMAZING and then plays really BAD. That ELO peak was awhile ago and means pretty much nothing. What? are you serious? luxury's zvz in the same class as zero and savior?
This.
Lux's muta and ling micro so far outclass zero and savior, that it wouldn't be close... and he dismantled zero harder than zero dismantled savior. Savior should definitely have been mentioned in that second tier from his previous days, but right now his muta micro just isn't enough to hold up on its own.
|
ehm
he is THE MAESTRO... nobody can compare to THE MAESTRO..
|
On March 15 2009 02:33 bludragen88 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2009 23:23 iLoveKTF wrote:On March 14 2009 13:34 Jayme wrote:On March 14 2009 04:54 bludragen88 wrote:On March 13 2009 09:48 sushiman wrote:On March 13 2009 09:14 Jaksiel wrote:
I love how so many people in this topic think Zero is a terrible player just because he had a bad day, by the way. Apparently you're not allowed to have a bad day or you're shit. Considering how much these guys train, and that Zero has had ONLY ZvZ matchups in this MSL, except for one game vs bisu, while luxury has had both MSL and OSL with every different MU to train for, you'd expect he'd do a little better than this. I don't know if you should expect more from Zero here. People tend to forget that after JD's ZvZ, Lux is next best in a class by himself. I hate to point at ELOs because they're just statistics but... go look at ZvZ ELO rankings/peaks. No he's not. Luxury is not in a class by himself when it comes to ZvZ. It's Jaedong and then Zero/Savior/Luxury (typically). The main problem with ZerO is that the bastard is so freaking streaky that he sometimes plays AMAZING and then plays really BAD. That ELO peak was awhile ago and means pretty much nothing. What? are you serious? luxury's zvz in the same class as zero and savior? This. Lux's muta and ling micro so far outclass zero and savior, that it wouldn't be close... and he dismantled zero harder than zero dismantled savior. Savior should definitely have been mentioned in that second tier from his previous days, but right now his muta micro just isn't enough to hold up on its own.
Seriously. In addition, it was painfully obvious how much better Zero's muta micro is over Savior's.
|
Savior wasn't all that great in ZvZ even during his prime. I have no idea what some of you people are saying.
|
On March 15 2009 02:33 bludragen88 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2009 23:23 iLoveKTF wrote:On March 14 2009 13:34 Jayme wrote:On March 14 2009 04:54 bludragen88 wrote:On March 13 2009 09:48 sushiman wrote:On March 13 2009 09:14 Jaksiel wrote:
I love how so many people in this topic think Zero is a terrible player just because he had a bad day, by the way. Apparently you're not allowed to have a bad day or you're shit. Considering how much these guys train, and that Zero has had ONLY ZvZ matchups in this MSL, except for one game vs bisu, while luxury has had both MSL and OSL with every different MU to train for, you'd expect he'd do a little better than this. I don't know if you should expect more from Zero here. People tend to forget that after JD's ZvZ, Lux is next best in a class by himself. I hate to point at ELOs because they're just statistics but... go look at ZvZ ELO rankings/peaks. No he's not. Luxury is not in a class by himself when it comes to ZvZ. It's Jaedong and then Zero/Savior/Luxury (typically). The main problem with ZerO is that the bastard is so freaking streaky that he sometimes plays AMAZING and then plays really BAD. That ELO peak was awhile ago and means pretty much nothing. What? are you serious? luxury's zvz in the same class as zero and savior? This. Lux's muta and ling micro so far outclass zero and savior, that it wouldn't be close... and he dismantled zero harder than zero dismantled savior. Savior should definitely have been mentioned in that second tier from his previous days, but right now his muta micro just isn't enough to hold up on its own.
ZvZ is about more than just muta micro, even though Savior may not be on the same level as Luxury or Zero (on a good day) he's still probably 4th or 5th ZvZ around. I mean, aside from those 3 who's better? Maybe some combination of Hyvaa/Calm/Effort? People make it out like he's completely washed up in ZvZ because of one series loss, but aside from that his recent performance in the matchup hasn't been half bad.
|
On March 12 2009 23:16 Hot_Bid wrote:
its guaranteed that luxury is playing a samsung player
and you guys are saying he has no chance? its a final
lol i just realized you forgot that luxury is a ktf zerg
|
On March 15 2009 16:17 Ideas wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2009 23:16 Hot_Bid wrote:
its guaranteed that luxury is playing a samsung player
and you guys are saying he has no chance? its a final lol i just realized you forgot that luxury is a ktf zerg
i smiled a little at this. Dont mess with the storm zerg!
|
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On March 15 2009 01:03 Kaolla wrote:
savior > zero > luxury prob...
r u trolling
|
On March 12 2009 19:34 GTR wrote:
has there a more brutal rape than this in a bo5?
i mean up vs jaedong.... but... this is up there.
Stork vs Flash, Bacchus OSL?
|
should be
jaedong = luxury > effort (where'd he go) = zero > savior > yarnc
great goes somewhere too, but I havent seen enough of his games to rank him.
which is not in anyway to say that savior has bad zvz. He still has some of the best ZvZ in the game
|
|
|
|
|
United States4126 Posts
I'm speechless... 
|
Hahaha, epic bump. =P
Just wait until he sees the results of the next game! ... probably 2 weeks from now!
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Tadzio/LSMSL/mslbanner14.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://www.fomos.kr/board/news/1229584475_1.jpg)
ZerO vs![[image loading]](http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6327/64508076.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sc2y.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i42.tinypic.com/2iicwaq.jpg)
