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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
NaDa played amazing but it just didnt work out.. I fail to see how NaDa had an advantage in the 5th game, too I think FakeSteve's totally wrong with this assumption.. But then again.. maybe NaDa could have won if he made better decisions at the end.. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On March 05 2009 21:08 538 wrote: Did he? Shit, he's about to retire then... I think this series is perfect example of why he should not. Unless he grew tired of it, and well, hes been around for quite a while... No one would ever cry over losing if he grows tired of playing as a pro! | ||
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
On March 05 2009 21:11 G.s)NarutO wrote: No one would ever cry over losing if he grows tired of playing as a pro! Wtf please do not scare me like that | ||
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Zoobix
United States3 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On March 05 2009 21:10 MaGic~PhiL wrote: its not the match up guys.. seriously.. NaDa played amazing but it just didnt work out.. I fail to see how NaDa had an advantage in the 5th game, too I think FakeSteve's totally wrong with this assumption.. But then again.. maybe NaDa could have won if he made better decisions at the end.. Nada definitely had an advantage until the scarabs started tearing shit up and even then the first few reaver drops weren't enough and even then the game was close down the end and had nada pushed a different expo or a different timing he may have done a lot better and could have won coupled with a few Jangbi mistakes. I thought Game 5 was looking like Game 1 for a while where Jangbi's harass was blocked well and failed to delay the push. Nada had his 2nd down before Jangbi - how can a Terran with twice as many bases as a Protoss be behind? | ||
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
On March 05 2009 21:11 G.s)NarutO wrote: No one would ever cry over losing if he grows tired of playing as a pro! I didn't say he doesnt care anymore, just that he's grown tired of it. Not getting bored and losing interest, but getting fed up with all the losses, after all those wins he might be a perfectionist, and the decline must be hard to handle - no matter he can still kick ass left and right, though not the current S-class. (I don't know if I got my point across to you, english is not my first language...) | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On March 05 2009 21:21 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Nada definitely had an advantage until the scarabs started tearing shit up and even then the first few reaver drops weren't enough and even then the game was close down the end and had nada pushed a different expo or a different timing he may have done a lot better and could have won coupled with a few Jangbi mistakes. I thought Game 5 was looking like Game 1 for a while where Jangbi's harass was blocked well and failed to delay the push. Nada had his 2nd down before Jangbi - how can a Terran with twice as many bases as a Protoss be behind? I thought the two games looked vastly different.In game 1, Jangbi lost two goons early and forced to go reavers off of ONE BASE while Nada expanded, giving Nada a HUGE lead. In game 5, Jangbi killed the rax and was able to safely put up his 3rd while teching to reavers, since Nada delayed his factory timing. Jangbi was even able to stop goon production for quite a while to get his tech/economy up at the same time. And Nada did not make the mistake of expanding at the 9. That's the best location for the terran considering their map positions. The reason why it sucked was because Jangbi had enough of an advantage to tech to carriers. Obviously, Nada could not have anticipated carrier tech. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On March 05 2009 21:21 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Nada definitely had an advantage until the scarabs started tearing shit up and even then the first few reaver drops weren't enough and even then the game was close down the end and had nada pushed a different expo or a different timing he may have done a lot better and could have won coupled with a few Jangbi mistakes. I thought Game 5 was looking like Game 1 for a while where Jangbi's harass was blocked well and failed to delay the push. Nada had his 2nd down before Jangbi - how can a Terran with twice as many bases as a Protoss be behind? Sorry but a large part of your post makes little sense.. the statement twice as many bases as protoss has to be a joke right ? 1) NaDas expo was slightly earlier -/- having twice as many bases 2) NaDa lost his rax 3) Jangbis 3rd was much earlier than NaDa's 3rd ( which is nothing too unusual in TvP ... ) 4) When it acutally mattered Jangbi had more bases and a better possibility to macro but I dont know.. IF NaDa had an advantage he lost this game because of decision making | ||
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On March 05 2009 21:31 MaGic~PhiL wrote: Sorry but a large part of your post makes little sense.. the statement twice as many bases as protoss has to be a joke right ? 1) NaDas expo was slightly earlier -/- having twice as many bases 2) NaDa lost his rax 3) Jangbis 3rd was much earlier than NaDa's 3rd ( which is nothing too unusual in TvP ... ) 4) When it acutally mattered Jangbi had more bases and a better possibility to macro but I dont know.. IF NaDa had an advantage he lost this game because of decision making Well, without anaylzing it too deeply, I also had the feeling that NaDa was ahead at some points in the game. When he pushed out with his huge force of goliaths and tanks for example. JangBi's storms were just a liiiiiittle off, he kept losing carriers/interceptors without really killing anything, etc. To me at the very least, this looked like a quite unstoppable push. Well, maybe not unstoppable. But it definitely looked menacing. And then JangBi just absolutely dismantled him. It almost seemed like NaDa had stopped producing units. The early game looked pretty equal to me. JangBi secured himself a small lead by destroying the barracks, but the first couple of ("failed")reaver harasses balanced that out. | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On March 05 2009 21:28 baubo wrote: I thought the two games looked vastly different.In game 1, Jangbi lost two goons early and forced to go reavers off of ONE BASE while Nada expanded, giving Nada a HUGE lead. In game 5, Jangbi killed the rax and was able to safely put up his 3rd while teching to reavers, since Nada delayed his factory timing. Jangbi was even able to stop goon production for quite a while to get his tech/economy up at the same time. And Nada did not make the mistake of expanding at the 9. That's the best location for the terran considering their map positions. The reason why it sucked was because Jangbi had enough of an advantage to tech to carriers. Obviously, Nada could not have anticipated carrier tech. What I didn't say anything about the 9, its obvious Terran wants to expand toward the enemy main. But he could have attacked somewhere that Jangbi hadn't mined out. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On March 05 2009 21:31 MaGic~PhiL wrote: Sorry but a large part of your post makes little sense.. the statement twice as many bases as protoss has to be a joke right ? 1) NaDas expo was slightly earlier -/- having twice as many bases 2) NaDa lost his rax 3) Jangbis 3rd was much earlier than NaDa's 3rd ( which is nothing too unusual in TvP ... ) 4) When it acutally mattered Jangbi had more bases and a better possibility to macro but I dont know.. IF NaDa had an advantage he lost this game because of decision making 1. obviously i was exaggerating but earlier 2nd is at least pretty good. 2. yeah i forgot about that, that was huge 3. you're right 4. I suppose if a protoss decides to go carriers in this day and age they are feeling good about the econ | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
On March 05 2009 21:20 Zoobix wrote: Maybe he got his mandatory military service letter in the mail so this was his last chance to do something big before he had to retire. ace just got even stronger if this happens | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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brjdrb
United States577 Posts
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
On March 05 2009 21:20 Zoobix wrote: Maybe he got his mandatory military service letter in the mail so this was his last chance to do something big before he had to retire. Wiki says in dec 07 nada signed a $830 000 3 yr contract w/ wemade =) | ||
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VioleTAK
4408 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On March 05 2009 21:58 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: What I didn't say anything about the 9, its obvious Terran wants to expand toward the enemy main. But he could have attacked somewhere that Jangbi hadn't mined out. Sorry, I think I got your post mixed up with some other people before you. Many were wondering why Nada didn't put his 4th base elsewhere, which I found perplexing. As for where Nada attacked, I can only assume that he didn't want to split up his army for them to get picked off by carriers. But really the game was more or less over by then. Jangbi had a ton of carriers and better economy. Nada would've lost regardless. | ||
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Bifur
Russian Federation1208 Posts
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