[MSL] Lost Saga MSL Round of 16 Day 1-1 - Page 53

On February 12 2009 21:07 IdrA wrote:

by him i meant the random forum newbie, not free
i assume you know that but just making it clear

On February 12 2009 21:05 IdrA wrote:

if someone says i suck in micro, explains why, and their explanation is valid then yes indeed. i didnt say free is bad because i say hes bad. i said hes bad because he made this bad decision, then explained why it was a bad decision, and the only person whos actually addressing that argument agreed with me.

On February 12 2009 21:09 snapcrackle wrote:

cuz everyone else doesn't know anything. when we see another gamer make a criticism we wanna know why and will flame at it. when FBH said savior sucks... he was flamed to hell. same thing. If a troll says it... he's ignored (or burned by the fanboys)

On February 12 2009 21:10 Samurai- wrote:
The only thing is i am TIRED of seeing people who try to achieve something in this game(like you), talking bullshit about players who are 100 times better then himself..

I wouldnt care if a noone would say free sux, but i care if someone like you, who would actually NEED to learn to respect other FELLOW PROGAMERS , trash talks here, on the forums how a player needs to learn to micro. Go to his house, tell him that.. I thought they would teach you some respect down there..

On February 12 2009 21:13 Samurai- wrote:


But those things he did great you said it was LUCK ? Wow what an argument..

On February 12 2009 21:13 darktreb wrote:


Look, I'm not a huge fan of Idra in general but this is really unfair. Basically here's what happened:

Idra: Free blindly moves Dragoons into minefields without knowing ahead of time how many there are. Two mines pop, he does hold position and gets lucky - everyone thinks his micro is amazing but he just got lucky and it was a terrible play.

Ok, so now here's what happens usually in the forums:

somebodyintheforums: <insert player> sucks, <timing was off/terrible micro/bad decision making/etc.>

I mean, come on.

On February 12 2009 20:49 IdrA wrote:
nono
sorry i didnt word that well
i mean its a misconception that free ever has good micro. hes just dumb enough to always attack, and he gets lucky once in a while and it looks like brilliance, when it fact hes terrible.

On February 12 2009 20:46 IdrA wrote:

not knowing when to not attack and getting lucky occasionally is not good micro

On February 12 2009 21:14 IdrA wrote:

believe it or not, cj entus is not a finishing school
i can see how you could make that mistake though

On February 12 2009 21:13 snapcrackle wrote:
on a serious note... Though your knowledge is probably more than mine. to say any progamers micro sucks is too harsh. Coming from a nobody then no one would care. To better explain this i'll draw two scenarios:

Mechanic A says about Mechanic B: You are aweful, you don't understand how to fix this error (when in fact Mechanic B does do it professionally)

Simpleton A says about Mechanic B: You are aweful, you don't understand how to fix this error. No one cares cuz Simpleton is merely ignorant.

You idra out of all of us aren't and shouldn't be ignorant. The rest have the right to be

On February 12 2009 21:16 snapcrackle wrote:

this part here is what got me... him calling a fellow proleaguer dumb

From anyone elses mouth it just goes away.. but seeing this was posted by Idra (a post which hardly unnoticed... was just shocking

Oh and also that he's terrible

On February 12 2009 21:16 Samurai- wrote:

So you didnt say this..

On February 12 2009 21:17 IdrA wrote:

obviously i dont mean hes a D- newbie
but the fact is.... exactly what i said. that famous goon micro clip was actually bad micro with a fortunate turn. and that is pretty representative of his general play. theres a reason hes always been really inconsistant (before the whole 6 dragons medusa destination etc era). he makes attacks and takes gambles where most pros wouldnt take the risk. sometimes he looks brilliant, sometimes he looks horrible. i dont really think making bad decisions is something to be admired. buuuuuuut maybe im wrong.

On February 12 2009 21:20 snapcrackle wrote:

this argument i like a lot better. I can read this and go ah yes... this makes sense. A lot of gamers gamble and sometimes it pays off... it shouldn't be called brilliance but rather luck (i notice this in games and get pissed off cuz it wasn't the play that was good just the luck at the moment). But to post extremely condescending words is something that shouldn't be stated (unless of course you have a grudge against the guy... in which fine go ahead cuz you hate him)

On February 12 2009 21:16 snapcrackle wrote:

this part here is what got me... him calling a fellow proleaguer dumb

From anyone elses mouth it just goes away.. but seeing this was posted by Idra (a post which hardly unnoticed... was just shocking