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2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League Week 2
Will the newly reformed Hwaseung Oz take down Free and his all-star friends?
Starting Game
Predictions
+ Show Spoiler +Jaedong > OO[S.G]
Jaedong > GuemChi
Jaedong < ZerO
Hiya < ZerO
fOrGG > ZerO
fOrGG > Free
Results
+ Show Spoiler +Jaedong > OO[S.G]
Jaedong > Zero
Jaedong > GGPlay
Jaedong < Free
Forgg < Free
Hiya > Free
Hwaseung 4 - 2 Woongjin
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I predict an OO[S.G] All kill.
you heard it here first
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wht? they sending out JD so first?
w/e... expect this to b a really good matchup either way
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I'm conflicted. Jaedong is my favorite player but the Stars are my favorite team. I guess I root for Jaedong to win the first three, then Zero to all-kill.
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On February 03 2009 05:58 sung_moon wrote:
wht? they sending out JD so first?
w/e... expect this to b a really good matchup either way
They have to have a different starter every game, and Jaedong has a high potential to all-kill.
I think ZerO's muta micro will take him down though. The kid is unbelievable.
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On February 03 2009 06:00 Jaksiel wrote:
I'm conflicted. Jaedong is my favorite player but the Stars are my favorite team. I guess I root for Jaedong to win the first three, then Zero to all-kill.
That would be amazing.
For my fantasy team.
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I heard they started with JD to please all the foreigner fans who got him on their fantasy PL team and are fed up with Hiya taking all the points before jaedong even enters the match. Yeah I got him...
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Jaedong will probably lose his first game today and thursday because I picked him as my captain for fantasy.
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no one in stars is going to stop jd
jd > OO
jd > free
jd > zero
jd > guemechi
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9070 Posts
sorry I couldnt avoid the temptation
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i'm not sure what all the talk about zero is about, his ZvZ stats are pretty average regardless of his great muta micro (plus its Jaedong in ZvZ and he'll be pretty warmed up after beating OO+whoever else)
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Resize the pics or put them one under the other, pls.
Of course hopping for a stars win.
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I want a OO[S.G] > JD into a fOrGG all kill.
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On February 03 2009 06:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 05:58 sung_moon wrote:
wht? they sending out JD so first?
w/e... expect this to b a really good matchup either way They have to have a different starter every game, and Jaedong has a high potential to all-kill. I think ZerO's muta micro will take him down though. The kid is unbelievable.
You sure about that? Didn't the Stars play GuemChi first twice in a row in the first week?
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It would be pretty sweet if Jaedong got an all-kill~
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OO all kill for sure. The guy is a beast.
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On February 03 2009 05:57 arb wrote:
I predict an OO[S.G] All kill.
you heard it here first
You're only doing this cause you want to seem gosu if this happens, hehe, cause no one will remember if you're wrong, only if you're right ^_^
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On February 03 2009 05:57 arb wrote:
I predict an OO[S.G] All kill.
you heard it here first
I remember you. You're the Jaedong/ForGG hater
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
ideal results for me...
Jaedong wins 3 in a row, loses to Free, who all-kills
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jaedong will rape the shit out of OO, sending him back deep into the bench. by the next month he'll be dropped from the A Team.
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST
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I'm having doubts Jaedong can beat Free...
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Thats weird, I'm having doubts anyone can beat JD
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Free is actually one of the few top players that has + record against JD.
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JD<OO[S.G]
Hiya>The rest
Hiya scores another all-kill. Hellz ya!
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Hope to see good games from Jaedong
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Jaedong all-kill!! He will show ZerO's win against him was a fluke.
Even if he loses, Oz has Hiya. XD
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On February 03 2009 06:00 Hazz wrote: Jaedong all kill GOGOGO
This.
On February 03 2009 08:27 ZoW wrote:
JD<OO[S.G]
Hiya>The rest
Hiya scores another all-kill. Hellz ya!
Or this.
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
Omg...........terrible new jackets and terrible new name. The only way they can make up for this is if JD all kills!
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United States12607 Posts
Go OO! Go WJ!
Predictions:
Jaedong > OO (we could see some CRAZY cheese here fyi)
Jaedong > ZerO
Jaedong < free
Young < free
HiyA < free
fOrGG > free
fOrGG < GuemChi
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lol, its kinda funny that the Hwaseung Oz uniform is made by Lecaf :p
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JD all kill in less than 1 hour.
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On February 03 2009 09:10 JIJIyO wrote:
Omg...........terrible new jackets and terrible new name. The only way they can make up for this is if JD all kills!
Hey I like the new jackets to be honest 
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On February 03 2009 08:07 zhaoli86 wrote:
I'm having doubts Jaedong can beat Free...
z>p right now.
Lost Saga MSL: 6 zvp matches, 5 zerg wins
Batoo OSL: 29 zvp matches, 17 zerg wins
Winner's League: 21 zvp matches, 10 zerg wins
pit the best Z in the world against a middle of the pack "dragon", and i don't think you should have doubts, especially with these recent trends.
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Throw zerg's at em early. Too bad stars dont have a good terran.
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dude those hwaseung jackets are sick
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On February 03 2009 05:57 arb wrote:
I predict an OO[S.G] All kill.
you heard it here first
arb your prediction is pretty awesome!
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oo is a cheesy fucker, pvt at least
probably gonna do somethin retarded and get raped
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Some Terran on Stars has been playing nothing but mech tvz ever since the lineups were settled.
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It looks like Jaedong has a nice chance to all-kill Stars. Im probably forgetting someone but I believe that the best Stars' players are ZerO, GGPlay and  free. None of them seem to have a very good chance against JD. Two of them are zerg and JD is close to 80% win rate against zerg ffs. 
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On February 03 2009 07:24 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 05:57 arb wrote:
I predict an OO[S.G] All kill.
you heard it here first I remember you. You're the Jaedong/ForGG hater
Oh yeah, apparently fOrGG killed his family or something?
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On February 03 2009 10:59 JohnBall wrote:It looks like Jaedong has a nice chance to all-kill Stars. Im probably forgetting someone but I believe that the best Stars' players are ZerO, GGPlay and free. None of them seem to have a very good chance against JD. Two of them are zerg and JD is close to 80% win rate against zerg ffs.
Both ZerO and Free could easily beat Jaedong. I think Free is over 50% against Jaedong.
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OO All Kill. I feeling a very scary aura coming from this guy. I'm sure once gets a V, he's going to be nearly impossible to beat.
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Coach puts in OO hoping to get him some experience. GG Coach.
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On February 03 2009 11:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 10:59 JohnBall wrote:It looks like Jaedong has a nice chance to all-kill Stars. Im probably forgetting someone but I believe that the best Stars' players are ZerO, GGPlay and free. None of them seem to have a very good chance against JD. Two of them are zerg and JD is close to 80% win rate against zerg ffs. Both ZerO and Free could easily beat Jaedong. I think Free is over 50% against Jaedong.
nope
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On February 03 2009 11:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 10:59 JohnBall wrote:It looks like Jaedong has a nice chance to all-kill Stars. Im probably forgetting someone but I believe that the best Stars' players are ZerO, GGPlay and free. None of them seem to have a very good chance against JD. Two of them are zerg and JD is close to 80% win rate against zerg ffs. Both ZerO and Free could easily beat Jaedong. I think Free is over 50% against Jaedong.
They may beat him. "Easily" is a pretty enormous stretch.
Free is 2-3 in his recent matches against Jaedong, and one of those wins was on Byzantium. Zero beating Jaedong once doesn't really mean much. His ZvZ is good but we're talking about Jaedong here.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm coming through as a Jaedong fanboy here, but I must add that no one, not a single progamer, can "easily" beat Jaedong nowadays.
Tough maybe Jaedong will lose to OO and  HiyA will go on to all-kill again. That could happen.
Man, I just realized that OO doesn't even have figure on the team liquid database right now. Oo indeed.
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I haven't been able to stay up late for proleague for school as of late, due to school, but thankfully this match comes on before my off-day. Looking forward to the fireworks!
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On February 03 2009 11:00 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 07:24 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:On February 03 2009 05:57 arb wrote:
I predict an OO[S.G] All kill.
you heard it here first I remember you. You're the Jaedong/ForGG hater Oh yeah, apparently fOrGG killed his family or something?
If yuo would like to me to explain what you call "Jaedong/ForGG" Hate pm me and i will.
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Free will own the shit out of jaedong.....
(hopefully for me he will)
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I love Jaedong. I love the stars, even GGPlay.
I think the only situation where I am really upset is if Jaedong loses and my stars get all-killed by someone horrible like HiyA, or fOrGG.
And if I'm being honest, I want Jaedong to lose to ZerO (again).
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JD won't lose to zero again. Last time Zero beat him JD underestimated him. He doesn't lose to the same zerg twice (lol)
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was anyone else who was watching last night see 9pools from zerg in ZvT? Seems a little weird.
Maybe I messed up on my observations, but if I didn't, is there any explanation for that? I thought 9pooling didn't work in ZvT.
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blargh i am quite sure zero>jaedong was purely a bo win
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Please fix this op, it is really annoying.
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There has been enough upsets recently, Starcraft needs to go back in track. Jaedong all-kill please.
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On February 03 2009 15:16 Crippen wrote:
was anyone else who was watching last night see 9pools from zerg in ZvT? Seems a little weird.
Maybe I messed up on my observations, but if I didn't, is there any explanation for that? I thought 9pooling didn't work in ZvT.
why wouldnt 9 pool work? its early pressure. and its good when terran decides to fe
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
Please don't suck, Jaedong. All-kill please. Free and Zero are scary fu*kers though.
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On February 03 2009 15:50 gNs.I-Jasa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 15:16 Crippen wrote:
was anyone else who was watching last night see 9pools from zerg in ZvT? Seems a little weird.
Maybe I messed up on my observations, but if I didn't, is there any explanation for that? I thought 9pooling didn't work in ZvT. why wouldnt 9 pool work? its early pressure. and its good when terran decides to fe
mostly because marine/SCV micro seems to fend it off pretty easily. What it seemed to accomplish in the games was basically force a 2-SCV+1-marine block at the ramp. I'm not sure if that's worth the long-term econ hit, though. (seemed to work at least once, so I'm not sold against it.)
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On February 03 2009 15:25 AttackZerg wrote:
Please fix this op, it is really annoying.
Did I make a mistake?
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Katowice25012 Posts
zero over jaedong is a bold prediction!
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On February 03 2009 16:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 15:25 AttackZerg wrote:
Please fix this op, it is really annoying. Did I make a mistake?
put the predictions in a spoiler, it just adds more scrolling.
Take out the group pics.
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or make them smaller
it messes up the width for me
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United States12607 Posts
On February 03 2009 10:26 IdrA wrote:
oo is a cheesy fucker, pvt at least
probably gonna do somethin retarded and get raped
haha, we can always count on IdrA for a thread's recommended dose of Protoss bashing ^^
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On February 03 2009 16:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 15:25 AttackZerg wrote:
Please fix this op, it is really annoying. Did I make a mistake?
No I love your op, and that you made it for the community to watch and report LR's together, its just that most of us who use the forum alot, click All, so the entire thread is broken.
Please fix the pictures and put them on top of each other or scale down the size.
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On February 03 2009 16:13 jwd241224 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 10:26 IdrA wrote:
oo is a cheesy fucker, pvt at least
probably gonna do somethin retarded and get raped haha, we can always count on IdrA for a thread's recommended dose of Protoss bashing ^^
Pretty sure that was a slight against the player, not his race.
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I can't decide who I want to all-kill. Jaedong is my favorite player, but I have ForGG on my Fantasy team...
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that doesnt even look like jaedong
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well atleast OO[S.G] looks somewhat calm.
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Oz 4-0
Yes JD will all-kill
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I want Oz to win for my liquibet, but I want Free to get me some more points ><
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Jaedong is one fo my favorite players...
I see him all killing..
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Game Started
Whiskey Zerg @ 2
OO @ 10
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OH MY GOD JAEDONG WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!
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I want to see cheese-toss in action.
Can Idra clarify on how lame this guy Oo is?
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oh man, i hope this goes well
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On February 03 2009 06:37 Hazz wrote:
i'm not sure what all the talk about zero is about, his ZvZ stats are pretty average regardless of his great muta micro (plus its Jaedong in ZvZ and he'll be pretty warmed up after beating OO+whoever else)
i wouldnt ever overestimate stats, especially with relatively new players
from what i seen so far zero zvz was insane
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jaedong is such a lamer !!!!!!!
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He gets like 5 lings in his base. This game is over lol
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WTF WHISKEY ZERG GOT THROUGH
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wow nice wall and micro, except he let the damn lings get by.
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Those zerglings are slippery >.>
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C'mon Jaedong you better fucking all-kill 'em and not get sniped!
God damn I hope for a good stream!! Wherever I can find it...
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Well OO cleaned it up, after like losing 7 probes
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was that a good idea to just lose those probes like that?...........
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did that do enough?
actually, yes, drone and probe counts are even and jd has 3 hatches going
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lol hes left with like 7 probes.
hes so behind....
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Sick surround on that zealot!
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Why the hell does Jaedong cheese when he is several skill levels above that guy?
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mutas will end this soon.
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bad control by OO on his lone zeal
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The guy looked liek he wants to cry when he lost that zealot
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On February 03 2009 18:11 KreaGata wrote:
Sick surround on that zealot!
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On February 03 2009 18:11 Scorch wrote:
Why the hell does Jaedong cheese when he is several skill levels above that guy?
to mess with his mind. hes new and this is very first tv game.
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On February 03 2009 18:11 Scorch wrote:
Why the hell does Jaedong cheese when he is several skill levels above that guy?
why should he reval himself in 1st match to some noob when he has high chance of going all kill against this team
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wow lost 2 zealots so carelessly...
this is going to be a long, boring game with OO[S.G] desperately trying to catch up.
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On February 03 2009 18:12 rushz0rz wrote:
wow lost 2 zealots so carelessly...
this is going to be a long, boring game with OO[S.G] desperately trying to catch up.
long?he will end this with 9 mutas.
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JD's spire is gonna finish before OO's stargate
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Russian Federation1612 Posts
Is it first game of OO :D
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On February 03 2009 18:13 Itachii wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:12 rushz0rz wrote:
wow lost 2 zealots so carelessly...
this is going to be a long, boring game with OO[S.G] desperately trying to catch up. long?he will end this with 9 mutas.
i dont think so. he's going sairs and he'll get cannons up in time. he will still lose as jaedong takes over the map.
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oh wait.. didnt notice the spire was so fast. yeah this over, thank god.
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Corsair snipe! It was a good day to die.
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well JD's scourges just take out OO's first sair
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4th and 5th hatch morphing, first corsair sniped by scourge.
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Germany2762 Posts
lol there goes the corsair -.-
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embarassing as hell for OO
GG
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lol... that was so fucking pathetic. hopefully that's his last tv game.
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GG already. Quite the ownage, as expected.
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That was pretty horrible.
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I like these jackets, almost like polish team
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
rofl damnnnnnn gonna make this kid quit sc 
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Oo sitting there with his lower lip quivering.
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i think it's even more pathetic that jaedong is so happy and proud of himself and even did that little ceremony.
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Poor OO. His first televised game and he gets 5 pooled by the #1 Zerg player
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On February 03 2009 18:16 Itachii wrote:
I like these jackets, almost like polish team
or austrian
or latvian
or canadian
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On February 03 2009 18:17 rushz0rz wrote:
i think it's even more pathetic that jaedong is so happy and proud of himself and even did that little ceremony.
He's happy about winning, whats bad about that? A win is a win.
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On February 03 2009 18:17 rushz0rz wrote:
i think it's even more pathetic that jaedong is so happy and proud of himself and even did that little ceremony.
Why are you getting so butthurt?
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When time's not on your side... Genius play by Jaedong to negate the weeks of preparation by OO.
Reminds me of Stork vs Fantasy game 1 and 5
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Woongjin brings on...
ZERO
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What a perfect way to start an all LJD day :-)
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On February 03 2009 18:20 KreaGata wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:17 rushz0rz wrote:
i think it's even more pathetic that jaedong is so happy and proud of himself and even did that little ceremony. Why are you getting so butthurt?
haha i really dont care that some newb got crushed.
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I think it's nice that they show emotions nowadays.
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To be fair, I think Jaedong needs to step up his ceremonies. I mean, that bastard can dance, yet he settles on boring little ceremonies.
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Woongjin are trying to zvz jd to death
ofc that's not an easy task
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So my friend and I were watching, and he came up with this theory that Jaedong was scrolling through his hotkeys too fast and accidentally hit ESC on his eggs, and then just decided to go 5 pool on the spot. What do you guys think?
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On February 03 2009 18:23 ZoW wrote:
So my friend and I were watching, and he came up with this theory that Jaedong was scrolling through his hotkeys too fast and accidentally hit ESC on his eggs, and then just decided to go 5 pool on the spot. What do you guys think?
i hope he is not serious.... but to be fair maybe he doesn't know jaedong... jaedong has done this cancellation of a drone before against hwasin. that time he 4 pooled rather than 5 pooled i believe. And yes the result was ownage.
So no, jaedong did it on purpose (creates more of a dramatic feeling when he cancels a drone for his fans)
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On February 03 2009 18:23 ZoW wrote:
So my friend and I were watching, and he came up with this theory that Jaedong was scrolling through his hotkeys too fast and accidentally hit ESC on his eggs, and then just decided to go 5 pool on the spot. What do you guys think?
dont think so... does anyone here ever press ESC during the starting spam? i certainly dont.
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On February 03 2009 18:22 KreaGata wrote:
To be fair, I think Jaedong needs to step up his ceremonies. I mean, that bastard can dance, yet he settles on boring little ceremonies.
Dont think he brought his outfit from that high school today, but who knows~~~just wait, 3 more games:D
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Doc sorry man i made a thread because i didnt see yours
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On February 03 2009 18:23 ZoW wrote:
So my friend and I were watching, and he came up with this theory that Jaedong was scrolling through his hotkeys too fast and accidentally hit ESC on his eggs, and then just decided to go 5 pool on the spot. What do you guys think?
How would you hit ESC by accident? Anyway, after cancelling the eggs he had little choice but to go 5pool.
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That was really cruel of JD, and there is no way that was an unintentional 4-pool. They cancel because it is habit and it doesn't matter if you cancel or not, so it isn't worth going out of the way for.
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Thanks for the clarification
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On February 03 2009 18:23 ZoW wrote:
So my friend and I were watching, and he came up with this theory that Jaedong was scrolling through his hotkeys too fast and accidentally hit ESC on his eggs, and then just decided to go 5 pool on the spot. What do you guys think?
My guess is that Jaedong had prepared for a long macro game. But at the last second he just decided "Fuck this. Imma rape this noob 5 pool ez pz" *presses Esc*
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On February 03 2009 18:26 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:23 ZoW wrote:
So my friend and I were watching, and he came up with this theory that Jaedong was scrolling through his hotkeys too fast and accidentally hit ESC on his eggs, and then just decided to go 5 pool on the spot. What do you guys think? My guess is that Jaedong had prepared for a long macro game. But at the last second he just decided "Fuck this. Imma rape this noob 5 pool ez pz" *presses Esc*
That was my guess too, we will most likely see in an interview if he all-kills that is.
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JD 9 pool Zero overlord on 9
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JD's spam >>>>> Zero's spam
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Argh the streams are perfect during the commercials, but take a dump right when the game starts.
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JD going for 9 pool, extractor trick
zero 12 hatch/pool?
this looks like a BO loss incoming
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On February 03 2009 18:27 KreaGata wrote:
Stomp the midget JD!
noone likes poor zero
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Both players throw their 2nd hatchery down at their natural.
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JD taking lings through the back way to avoid OL detection
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On February 03 2009 18:29 amorpheus wrote:noone likes poor zero
I love ZerO, just not as much as Jaedong.
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Oh shit ZerO forced to cancel his natural!
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WOW nice mind game from jaedong
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smart move by JD to move his lings through the lower path, tricking Zero into thinking only 2 lings were on the way
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Jaedongs ZvZ is just too scary... how can anybody think that zero has a chance to win?
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Wow, Jaedong is really late on his spire...
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JD's spire is late
Zero is going to have the advantage with mutas
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free gonna have to be sent out next and clean up this mess, like he always does.
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Zero's spire is way ahead though.
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JD's... not getting any gas.
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He's forced to throw an evolution chamber down for spores, but I think he'll be alright with the economic lead.
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On February 03 2009 18:32 KreaGata wrote:
Wow, Jaedong is really late on his spire...
he's playing it safer. he knows hes got an expo and zero doesnt, may as well get spores and a late spire.
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HAHAHA nalra = "that zergling is really acting cute"
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JD's gas mining at his natural is fucked up due to the evo/spore placement
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wow Zero is playing incredibly smart.
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Zero is looking quite good. Got 4 lings in JD's main and killed off some drones.
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what the fuck?
what the hell is jaedong doing
i dont understand why he broke the evo
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On February 03 2009 18:35 rushz0rz wrote:
wow Zero is playing incredibly smart.
jaedong just had a bad simcity... should've tested that city out ><
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JD going all-in here with drones
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On February 03 2009 18:35 snapcrackle wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:35 rushz0rz wrote:
wow Zero is playing incredibly smart. jaedong just had a bad simcity... should've tested that city out ><
the placement had little do with it...
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wow insane game JD just won
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oh my god this is so intense
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this zvz is fucking insane
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wow wtf !!! this is intense
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WOW exciting zvz for once!
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fucking zero!!!! he just left his mutas to die!!! wtf was he thinking
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Look at that raw fury in Jaedong's eyes.
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this is fucking intense
i thought jaedong had it awhile ago jesus
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so to say jd raped the little one?
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omg this is inteeeeeeeense
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holy fuck this is the best zvz i watched
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this looks over
Zero running on one base while JD running on two
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This game is so intense WAHHHH!
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holy shit this is still going on
jd finally has a massive advantage but STILL..
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lololol
best ZvZ i have ever seen
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On February 03 2009 18:39 Zinbiel wrote:
who wins?
No idea.
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zero loves to throw away games. fuck him.
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That was the best ZvZ I ever saw live.
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best zvz i've seen so far
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GG, Jaedong wins a very nice ZvZ.
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GG from Zero after JD has 3 mutas raping drones
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HOLY SHIT! That game was amazing!
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OH
MY
GOD
FJSLKAGJSAKLFDSJLGJLSAFJDLSAGJLSAFJDLSKAS HOLY JFKLSDAJGLKSDAFJLKAJ THAT GAME WAS FJKLSAGDJLAFJSLAK
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THAT WAS FUCKING SO KICK ASSS JESUS JAEDONG HOLY FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUu
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Well I'll be damned! A good ZvZ!
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Sick ass ZvZ. Could have gone either way and very skillful play by both players. Props to Jaedong. That was almost a sick comeback by Zero though!!!!
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wow zero had it but jaedong way too gosu
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Really really exciting game. Mad props to ZerO there, but Jaedong is just too much.
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great game, not sure what stars was thinking trying to beat JD in a ZvZ
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i duno how JD pulled this one
was sick
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WOW good game... so close
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Is it just me or stream volume is very low today~~?
Cant hear their screams really:<
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On February 03 2009 18:43 Day[9] wrote:
THAT WAS FUCKING SO KICK ASSS JESUS JAEDONG HOLY FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUu
funny.. i saw few mistakes from zero after that initial hatch cancellation.... then i saw a bunch from jaedong.... and then boom restart
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JD was behind on his spire and still pulled through. good timing with the spores though
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Both players did a comeback
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the best zvz in a long time ^^
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On February 03 2009 18:43 Frits wrote:
great game, not sure what stars was thinking trying to beat JD in a ZvZ
Apparently they were thinking very well, because that was a close game.
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L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
BEST FUCKING ZVZ EVARH ! ! ! <3
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On February 03 2009 18:30 rushz0rz wrote:
lol this is over.
On February 03 2009 18:35 rushz0rz wrote:
wow Zero is playing incredibly smart.
On February 03 2009 18:42 rushz0rz wrote:
zero loves to throw away games. fuck him.
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Does wongin have any good terran?
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On February 03 2009 18:36 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:35 snapcrackle wrote:On February 03 2009 18:35 rushz0rz wrote:
wow Zero is playing incredibly smart. jaedong just had a bad simcity... should've tested that city out >< the placement had little do with it...
uhhh sorry jaedong had bad simcity it had a lot to do with it
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best zvz ever, and jd pulls it out of course. man that was down to the fucking wire.
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OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH MYYYYYYY GOOOOOOOOD
THE BEST ZVZ EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On February 03 2009 18:44 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
JD was behind on his spire and still pulled through. good timing with the spores though
no... its not like that. he MEANT to put up the spire late because he KNEW zero had NO EXPO and he did. you're giving him too much credit, like he was somehow behind...
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On February 03 2009 18:45 food wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:35 rushz0rz wrote:
wow Zero is playing incredibly smart. Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:42 rushz0rz wrote:
zero loves to throw away games. fuck him.
LOL
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Should be Free now. This is the only map acceptable for pvz.
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how did zero make the scourge not suicide to the overlords?
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GOD I hate when I have a good stream, then that sign in popup comes up and messes it all up =( Now I'm stuck refreshing for god knows how long...
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another zerg to slaughter
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so they send GGPlay.... hmm...
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On February 03 2009 18:43 Frits wrote:
great game, not sure what stars was thinking trying to beat JD in a ZvZ
zero was the only one that could stop jd all-kill
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Who will the Stars bring out to handle Jaedong? It is GGPlay, another ZvZ incoming!
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They send out ggplay. Another ZvZ.
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On February 03 2009 18:47 Zubins wrote:
GOD I hate when I have a good stream, then that sign in popup comes up and messes it all up =( Now I'm stuck refreshing for god knows how long...
you wont recieve it if you exit fullscreen with mouse instead of esc.
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On February 03 2009 18:47 Zubins wrote:
GOD I hate when I have a good stream, then that sign in popup comes up and messes it all up =( Now I'm stuck refreshing for god knows how long...
It popped up most likely because you're pressing enter to go to full screen, don't do that.
Double click instead.
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Another zerg?
Jaedong's loving this.
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On February 03 2009 18:45 food wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:35 rushz0rz wrote:
wow Zero is playing incredibly smart. Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:42 rushz0rz wrote:
zero loves to throw away games. fuck him.
yeah i should only post if i can read the future.... right
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jaedong never seems to lose a zvz...
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i love GGPlay but JD is on a roll
tough for KJY
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They're just feeding Jaedong wins now, I mean GGplay? Really?
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Well, aside from free GGPlay is the next logical choice.
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zero also beat JD twice recently, according to TLPD. and most recent was on the same map
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On February 03 2009 18:48 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:45 food wrote:On February 03 2009 18:30 rushz0rz wrote:
lol this is over. On February 03 2009 18:35 rushz0rz wrote:
wow Zero is playing incredibly smart. On February 03 2009 18:42 rushz0rz wrote:
zero loves to throw away games. fuck him. yeah i should only post if i can read the future.... right
Or you should not assume right away, thats something you should have learned with starcraft long ago.
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oh sweet tau cross is back in the map pool.
at least we'll get to see Free on it, unless GGPlay has mineral and map hax.
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Why do they send Zergs against the best ZvZer
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I would have tried Free instead of GGPlay, but maybe they have something prepared for this situation.
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On February 03 2009 18:51 rushz0rz wrote:
oh sweet tau cross is back in the map pool.
at least we'll get to see Free on it, unless GGPlay has mineral and map hax.
Its JD vs GGPlay on Tau Cross now
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On February 03 2009 18:50 29 fps wrote:
zero also beat JD twice recently, according to TLPD. and most recent was on the same map
I'm pretty sure this is inaccurate, including this game I believe Jaedong is 3-1 against zero.
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On February 03 2009 18:52 Scorch wrote:
I would have tried Free instead of GGPlay, but maybe they have something prepared for this situation.
well... who would you rather be stuck with as a last option? GGPlay or Free? And what if GGPlay happens to win a couple games.
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On February 03 2009 18:51 fearus wrote:
Why do they send Zergs against the best ZvZer
I don't know why people keep saying this, it makes perfect sense.
ZvZ will most likely go the same build order, even if they don't, most ZvZ's can be pretty close. One miss-micro on your first batch of mutas can mean the game, thats why it is a logical choice.
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The 4-th map is too hard for pvz:-(
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On February 03 2009 18:52 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:51 rushz0rz wrote:
oh sweet tau cross is back in the map pool.
at least we'll get to see Free on it, unless GGPlay has mineral and map hax. Its JD vs GGPlay on Tau Cross now
it's on Andromeda.
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Wow. Jaedong today. Jaedong tomorrow vs. Luxury (practicing now vs. Stars  ). And Jaedong the day after tomorrow vs. T.
What a nice couple of days for me!
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On February 03 2009 18:51 fearus wrote:
Why do they send Zergs against the best ZvZer
Because it's zvz, anything can happen.
+ Stars have been using GGPlay for zvz for a while now.
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On February 03 2009 18:53 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:52 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:51 rushz0rz wrote:
oh sweet tau cross is back in the map pool.
at least we'll get to see Free on it, unless GGPlay has mineral and map hax. Its JD vs GGPlay on Tau Cross now it's on Andromeda.
Really? Then OP fails
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On February 03 2009 18:49 ambit!ous1 wrote:
i love GGPlay but JD is on a roll
tough for KJY
edit nm lol
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On February 03 2009 18:52 Scorch wrote:
I would have tried Free instead of GGPlay, but maybe they have something prepared for this situation.
jd typing zizi yo accidentally?
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On February 03 2009 18:54 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:53 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:52 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:51 rushz0rz wrote:
oh sweet tau cross is back in the map pool.
at least we'll get to see Free on it, unless GGPlay has mineral and map hax. Its JD vs GGPlay on Tau Cross now it's on Andromeda. Really? Then OP fails
aaah really? i only got it from the op.
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jaedong wont lose zvz, just look at his crazy win ratio... are they stupid? or when do they decide which player they send out? i dont know the whole system
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Sweet lord that girl's voice is annoying.
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On February 03 2009 18:54 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:53 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:52 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:51 rushz0rz wrote:
oh sweet tau cross is back in the map pool.
at least we'll get to see Free on it, unless GGPlay has mineral and map hax. Its JD vs GGPlay on Tau Cross now it's on Andromeda. Really? Then OP fails
What are you talking about? First map WAS Medusa, followed by Sin some-korean-name and now Andromeda
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if GGPlay can win 2 games he'll get a crown !!! thats motivation enough for him!
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On February 03 2009 18:55 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:54 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:53 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:52 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:51 rushz0rz wrote:
oh sweet tau cross is back in the map pool.
at least we'll get to see Free on it, unless GGPlay has mineral and map hax. Its JD vs GGPlay on Tau Cross now it's on Andromeda. Really? Then OP fails aaah really? i only got it from the op.
< Sin Chupung-Ryeong >
< Andromeda >
< Tau Cross >
< Neo Harmony >
< Colosseum II >
< Destination >
this is the map pool in the OP. JD vs GGPlay is game 3
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On February 03 2009 18:55 KreaGata wrote:
Sweet lord that girl's voice is annoying.
Seriously.
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On February 03 2009 18:55 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
jaedong wont lose zvz, just look at his crazy win ratio... are they stupid? or when do they decide which player they send out? i dont know the whole system
Theres a FAQ somewhere (most likely stickied) that explains what happens.
And refer to my post on this page about ZvZ, and you'll see its stupid to insult what you don't understand.
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On February 03 2009 18:55 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:54 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:53 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:52 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:51 rushz0rz wrote:
oh sweet tau cross is back in the map pool.
at least we'll get to see Free on it, unless GGPlay has mineral and map hax. Its JD vs GGPlay on Tau Cross now it's on Andromeda. Really? Then OP fails What are you talking about? First map WAS Medusa, followed by Sin some-korean-name and now Andromeda
sry rushz0rz confuses me -_-
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Didn't GGPlay use to wear glasses? I'm not used to his naked face.
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On February 03 2009 18:56 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:55 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:54 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:53 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:52 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:51 rushz0rz wrote:
oh sweet tau cross is back in the map pool.
at least we'll get to see Free on it, unless GGPlay has mineral and map hax. Its JD vs GGPlay on Tau Cross now it's on Andromeda. Really? Then OP fails aaah really? i only got it from the op. < Sin Chupung-Ryeong > < Andromeda > < Tau Cross > < Neo Harmony > < Colosseum II > < Destination > this is the map pool in the OP. JD vs GGPlay is game 3
No its not, you're the one failing, because you read it wrong.
>>>> Jaedong<Medusa>OO[S.G] <<<<
< Sin Chupung-Ryeong >
< Andromeda >
Medusa is a map you know.
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On February 03 2009 18:56 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:55 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:54 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:53 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:52 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:51 rushz0rz wrote:
oh sweet tau cross is back in the map pool.
at least we'll get to see Free on it, unless GGPlay has mineral and map hax. Its JD vs GGPlay on Tau Cross now it's on Andromeda. Really? Then OP fails aaah really? i only got it from the op. < Sin Chupung-Ryeong > < Andromeda > < Tau Cross > < Neo Harmony > < Colosseum II > < Destination > this is the map pool in the OP. JD vs GGPlay is game 3
(Z)Jaedong<Medusa>[image loading]OO[S.G]
< Sin Chupung-Ryeong >
< Andromeda >
< Tau Cross >
< Neo Harmony >
< Colosseum II >
< Destination >
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On February 03 2009 18:55 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
jaedong wont lose zvz, just look at his crazy win ratio... are they stupid? or when do they decide which player they send out? i dont know the whole system
i think you have little understanding of strategy involved in proleague and of the teams. If they sent out Free and he happens to lose, they are stuck with crap players. What if GGPlay happens to win a couple and makes good room for Free to come in and finish it? Would you rather be stuck with GGPlay if Free only beats 1, or 2? No.
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ok im confused about map order -_-
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On February 03 2009 18:57 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:56 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:55 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:54 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:53 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:52 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:51 rushz0rz wrote:
oh sweet tau cross is back in the map pool.
at least we'll get to see Free on it, unless GGPlay has mineral and map hax. Its JD vs GGPlay on Tau Cross now it's on Andromeda. Really? Then OP fails aaah really? i only got it from the op. < Sin Chupung-Ryeong > < Andromeda > < Tau Cross > < Neo Harmony > < Colosseum II > < Destination > this is the map pool in the OP. JD vs GGPlay is game 3 (Z)Jaedong<Medusa>[image loading]OO[S.G] < Sin Chupung-Ryeong > < Andromeda > < Tau Cross > < Neo Harmony > < Colosseum II > < Destination >
OH LOL thanks
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On February 03 2009 18:56 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:55 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:On February 03 2009 18:54 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:53 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:52 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:51 rushz0rz wrote:
oh sweet tau cross is back in the map pool.
at least we'll get to see Free on it, unless GGPlay has mineral and map hax. Its JD vs GGPlay on Tau Cross now it's on Andromeda. Really? Then OP fails What are you talking about? First map WAS Medusa, followed by Sin some-korean-name and now Andromeda sry rushz0rz confuses me -_-
how do i confuse you?
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This guy has a ZvZ tipping 80%.
ZvZ with jd aint a coin flip like other zergs.
It makes 0 logic or sense to send zergs against the BEST ZvZer ever.
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nevermind, ill continue LRing
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On February 03 2009 18:53 3nickma wrote:Wow. Jaedong today. Jaedong tomorrow vs. Luxury (practicing now vs. Stars ). And Jaedong the day after tomorrow vs. T. What a nice couple of days for me!
What if he loses?
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GGplay with 0,3s faster gas, looks good.
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On February 03 2009 18:58 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:56 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:55 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:On February 03 2009 18:54 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:53 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:52 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 18:51 rushz0rz wrote:
oh sweet tau cross is back in the map pool.
at least we'll get to see Free on it, unless GGPlay has mineral and map hax. Its JD vs GGPlay on Tau Cross now it's on Andromeda. Really? Then OP fails What are you talking about? First map WAS Medusa, followed by Sin some-korean-name and now Andromeda sry rushz0rz confuses me -_- how do i confuse you?
my bad
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On February 03 2009 18:58 fearus wrote:
This guy has a ZvZ tipping 80%.
ZvZ with jd aint a coin flip like other zergs.
It makes 0 logic or sense to send zergs against the BEST ZvZer ever.
oh wow... you guys are dumb. sick of explaining this shit to people. learn the teams and strategy plz.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
its called a 'sniper' guys.
The coaches probably decided after practicing sniping JD at ZvZ was the best choice
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On February 03 2009 18:58 fearus wrote:
This guy has a ZvZ tipping 80%.
ZvZ with jd aint a coin flip like other zergs.
It makes 0 logic or sense to send zergs against the BEST ZvZer ever.
Its definitely not a coin flip with JD, you're right. But you have to admit its still a good chance.
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On February 03 2009 18:53 Azrael1111 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:50 29 fps wrote:
zero also beat JD twice recently, according to TLPD. and most recent was on the same map I'm pretty sure this is inaccurate, including this game I believe Jaedong is 3-1 against zero.
i said recently, not history. pretty sure history says jd > all in zvz
oh, and i guess it was only one game, but a REALLY recent one on the same map
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On February 03 2009 18:59 Itachii wrote:
GGplay with 0,3s faster gas, looks good.
this is an auto win yes
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Almost identical BO's and timings.
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On February 03 2009 18:53 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:51 fearus wrote:
Why do they send Zergs against the best ZvZer I don't know why people keep saying this, it makes perfect sense. ZvZ will most likely go the same build order, even if they don't, most ZvZ's can be pretty close. One miss-micro on your first batch of mutas can mean the game, thats why it is a logical choice.
What you fail to realize is, that it is getting more and more obvious as Jaedong plays more games that he doesn't make that single mistake.
When someone is 48 - 13 in a MU, it *is* stupid to send out players in that MU against it because it *can be pretty close*. No, it isn't logical. Being close and having 79% winrate doesn't equal.
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On February 03 2009 18:58 hk2717 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:53 3nickma wrote:Wow. Jaedong today. Jaedong tomorrow vs. Luxury (practicing now vs. Stars ). And Jaedong the day after tomorrow vs. T. What a nice couple of days for me! What if he loses?
SHUT UP!
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On February 03 2009 18:59 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:58 fearus wrote:
This guy has a ZvZ tipping 80%.
ZvZ with jd aint a coin flip like other zergs.
It makes 0 logic or sense to send zergs against the BEST ZvZer ever. oh wow... you guys are dumb. sick of explaining this shit to people. learn the teams and strategy plz.
ZvZ isnt a coin flip, arguably luck plays a greater role than usual, but mechanics are the determining factor.
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identical builds... JD>GGplay micro wise
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Lol seriously identical builds.
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On February 03 2009 19:01 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:59 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:58 fearus wrote:
This guy has a ZvZ tipping 80%.
ZvZ with jd aint a coin flip like other zergs.
It makes 0 logic or sense to send zergs against the BEST ZvZer ever. oh wow... you guys are dumb. sick of explaining this shit to people. learn the teams and strategy plz. ZvZ isnt a coin flip, arguably luck plays a greater role than usual, but mechanics are the determining factor.
wtf are you talking about?
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On February 03 2009 18:58 fearus wrote:
This guy has a ZvZ tipping 80%.
ZvZ with jd aint a coin flip like other zergs.
It makes 0 logic or sense to send zergs against the BEST ZvZer ever.
But jd's ZvP is strong too, unless free is in top form (as in, he's magiacally gotten ten times better since going 0-3 against jangbi), ggplay has a better chance of winning
Although, this is a great map for PvZ
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
they should've saved GGplay for ForGG though.
Macro beast Zerg vs Macro Beast Terran
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On February 03 2009 18:59 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:58 fearus wrote:
This guy has a ZvZ tipping 80%.
ZvZ with jd aint a coin flip like other zergs.
It makes 0 logic or sense to send zergs against the BEST ZvZer ever. oh wow... you guys are dumb. sick of explaining this shit to people. learn the teams and strategy plz.
lol okay.. we'll all jsut go back to reading your awesome calls and be in awe of your foresight.
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On February 03 2009 19:01 Essence wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:53 PanN wrote:On February 03 2009 18:51 fearus wrote:
Why do they send Zergs against the best ZvZer I don't know why people keep saying this, it makes perfect sense. ZvZ will most likely go the same build order, even if they don't, most ZvZ's can be pretty close. One miss-micro on your first batch of mutas can mean the game, thats why it is a logical choice. What you fail to realize is, that it is getting more and more obvious as Jaedong plays more games that he doesn't make that single mistake. When someone is 48 - 13 in a MU, it *is* stupid to send out players in that MU against it because it *can be pretty close*. No, it isn't logical. Being close and having 79% winrate doesn't equal.
No I do realize that, I just believe the coaches aren't making bad choices right now.
Maybe not the greatest, but not the worst.
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On February 03 2009 19:02 MrHoon wrote:
they should've saved GGplay for ForGG though.
Macro beast Zerg vs Macro Beast Terran
Jaedong couldnt take a game from fOrGG. Does GGPlay have a chance?
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MrHoon
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On February 03 2009 19:03 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:02 MrHoon wrote:
they should've saved GGplay for ForGG though.
Macro beast Zerg vs Macro Beast Terran Jaedong couldnt take a game from fOrGG. Does GGPlay have a chance?
When GGplay hits hive tech, no terran is safe
except against mech.
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Jaedong had the upper hand in this air battle I think.
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On February 03 2009 19:02 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:58 fearus wrote:
This guy has a ZvZ tipping 80%.
ZvZ with jd aint a coin flip like other zergs.
It makes 0 logic or sense to send zergs against the BEST ZvZer ever. But jd's ZvP is strong too, unless free is in top form (as in, he's magiacally gotten ten times better since going 0-3 against jangbi), ggplay has a better chance of winning Although, this is a great map for PvZ
PvP has nothing to do with PvZ, not to mention the meta game of a series, etc
On February 03 2009 19:02 fearus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:59 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:58 fearus wrote:
This guy has a ZvZ tipping 80%.
ZvZ with jd aint a coin flip like other zergs.
It makes 0 logic or sense to send zergs against the BEST ZvZer ever. oh wow... you guys are dumb. sick of explaining this shit to people. learn the teams and strategy plz. lol okay.. we'll all jsut go back to reading your awesome calls and be in awe of your foresight.
you cant hold me accountable for a player making mistakes. all i ever said was ZerO was playing smart, implying maybe a comeback. dont be such an idiot.
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GG, Jaedong wins again with far superior air control.
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On February 03 2009 19:00 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:58 fearus wrote:
This guy has a ZvZ tipping 80%.
ZvZ with jd aint a coin flip like other zergs.
It makes 0 logic or sense to send zergs against the BEST ZvZer ever. Its definitely not a coin flip with JD, you're right. But you have to admit its still a good chance.
You are saying there is a better chance to break his 78% ZvZ than his 62% ZvT or 63% ZvP?
Just look at the numberzzzz.
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Ridiculous, JD wins AGAIN
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how can you rape so hard at this lev.
i dont get it
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That was way to easy for Jaedong. They both did the same build but Jaedong's micro is better then GGplay.
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this game looked how it should. Complet ownage. I really had emotions in the 2nd set
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Free has to come and clean up the mess, as usual.
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It's true, GGPlay's late-game hive management play is staggering.
In other news, Jaedong.
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Fucking stream! *massive lag* *screaming* *GG!!*
I have NFI what just happened, but woo JD!
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There's a liiiiittle bit of pressure on Free now
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So much for the strategy used by Woondjin ...
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On February 03 2009 19:05 fearus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:00 PanN wrote:On February 03 2009 18:58 fearus wrote:
This guy has a ZvZ tipping 80%.
ZvZ with jd aint a coin flip like other zergs.
It makes 0 logic or sense to send zergs against the BEST ZvZer ever. Its definitely not a coin flip with JD, you're right. But you have to admit its still a good chance. You are saying there is a better chance to break his 78% ZvZ than his 62% ZvT or 63% ZvP? Just look at the numberzzzz.
The fact that JD's 80% was broken by a ZvZ a few days or week or two ago is proof its not a bad idea.
Plus zero beat him recently, on the same map, it wasn't a terrible idea.
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jaedong owns everyone and everything.. nothing is safe
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It was like Jaedong got twice the muta off one gas. Too ez.
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three ZvZ already... can it get any worse like 4 ZvZ ?
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On February 03 2009 19:07 Samurai- wrote:
three ZvZ already... can it get any worse like 4 ZvZ ?
First game was ZvP
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jaedong is so incredibly good at zvz...
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On February 03 2009 19:06 theKnife wrote:
Fucking stream! *massive lag* *screaming* *GG!!*
I have NFI what just happened, but woo JD!
Basically
1. Game start
2. Nothing eventful
3. ???
4. JD has 200 mutas, 500 lings and 100 scourge against 6 mutas of GGPlay's.
:/
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
lol, this might be the quickest Winner's league match ever.
I guess all-kill for jaedong
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On February 03 2009 19:05 Itachii wrote:
how can you rape so hard at this lev.
i dont get it
cuz jaedong micro is way superior
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On February 03 2009 19:08 MrHoon wrote:
lol, this might be the quickest Winner's league match ever.
I guess all-kill for jaedong
I think you are 1st to say this.
:D
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Ending up in a micro war ZvZ with jaedong is deadly.
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On February 03 2009 19:02 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:01 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 18:59 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:58 fearus wrote:
This guy has a ZvZ tipping 80%.
ZvZ with jd aint a coin flip like other zergs.
It makes 0 logic or sense to send zergs against the BEST ZvZer ever. oh wow... you guys are dumb. sick of explaining this shit to people. learn the teams and strategy plz. ZvZ isnt a coin flip, arguably luck plays a greater role than usual, but mechanics are the determining factor. wtf are you talking about?
wtf are you wtf-ing on my post? Luck plays a role, since there are BO wins as in every MU, maybe more than usually, and there are the Overlord scouts, if you send in the wrong direction and your opponent scouts you first you're way behind beacause he gonna counter your build easely. In other MUs the scouts come later and they can be killed/denied
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On February 03 2009 19:07 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:07 Samurai- wrote:
three ZvZ already... can it get any worse like 4 ZvZ ? First game was ZvP
I stand my self corrected, but that was pure rape..
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this was easier for jd than the previous game
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Watching a Jaedong ZvZ is like watching one of those street magic shows. You know something weird is going to happen and he's going to win, and you know in your heart that there's some clever trick he's pulling in there somewhere.
But even when you're watching, you can't see exactly where he gets that insane advantage and next thing you know it's gg.
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this is why jaedong isnt first haha they want to show more of the players . but hiya all kill too. i miss jaedong in that proleague now its jaedong in all four games ^_^
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Free for reverse all-kill plz...
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On February 03 2009 19:09 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:02 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 19:01 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 18:59 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:58 fearus wrote:
This guy has a ZvZ tipping 80%.
ZvZ with jd aint a coin flip like other zergs.
It makes 0 logic or sense to send zergs against the BEST ZvZer ever. oh wow... you guys are dumb. sick of explaining this shit to people. learn the teams and strategy plz. ZvZ isnt a coin flip, arguably luck plays a greater role than usual, but mechanics are the determining factor. wtf are you talking about? wtf are you wtf-ing on my post? Luck plays a role, since there are BO wins as in every MU, maybe more than usually, and there are the Overlord scouts, if you send in the wrong direction and your opponent scouts you first you're way behind beacause he gonna counter your build easely. In other MUs the scouts come later and they can be killed/denied
again, wtf are you talking about?
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Hiya all-killed STX, lol.
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Surprise surprise, Free it is.
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On February 03 2009 19:09 Samurai- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:07 o3.power91 wrote:On February 03 2009 19:07 Samurai- wrote:
three ZvZ already... can it get any worse like 4 ZvZ ? First game was ZvP I stand my self corrected, but that was pure rape..
It was pure rape but still doesnt count as a ZvZ therefore only 2 ZvZs were played. With free on the Woongjin roster, a 3rd ZvZ is unlikely
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God, Jaedong has a tidal wave of momentum. I don't see how Free will survive it, but I hope he does and reverses this shit.
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Come on free, reverse all-kill! :D
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MrHoon
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omg! I thought they would send piano!
Huge upset here guys
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Jaedong has pretty good micro, yes?
ZvZ can be pretty much identical BO wise, yes?
Then a deciding factor is micro, yes?
And Jaedong has pretty good micro, yes?
GGs
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Jaedong has quite the killer face. You can see he's on a killing spree. What a badass!
Also, what should I eat for lunch?
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Hey MrHoon, is the Madagascar thing a reference to the "shut/down/everything" thing?
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On February 03 2009 19:11 MrHoon wrote:
omg! I thought they would send piano!
Huge upset here guys
yeah... PianO could have reversed that shit.
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Okay finally here we goo..
Free!! 24 archon army plzzz..
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On February 03 2009 19:10 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:09 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 19:02 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 19:01 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 18:59 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:58 fearus wrote:
This guy has a ZvZ tipping 80%.
ZvZ with jd aint a coin flip like other zergs.
It makes 0 logic or sense to send zergs against the BEST ZvZer ever. oh wow... you guys are dumb. sick of explaining this shit to people. learn the teams and strategy plz. ZvZ isnt a coin flip, arguably luck plays a greater role than usual, but mechanics are the determining factor. wtf are you talking about? wtf are you wtf-ing on my post? Luck plays a role, since there are BO wins as in every MU, maybe more than usually, and there are the Overlord scouts, if you send in the wrong direction and your opponent scouts you first you're way behind beacause he gonna counter your build easely. In other MUs the scouts come later and they can be killed/denied again, wtf are you talking about?
wow you should really be banned from posting... all i hear from you is bashing other ppl.. claiming you have better knowledge.. and useless predictions.
side note jaedong zvz is the best. that is why ppl are questioning the motives of the coach sending in zerg after zerg. though many may think zvz is a coinflip, in jaedongs case winning 80 percent out of a total of around 60 matches in zvz is not really a coinflip
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On February 03 2009 19:12 EvoChamber wrote:
Hey MrHoon, is the Madagascar thing a reference to the "shut/down/everything" thing?
no I was raised by lions when my family's yacht crashed into Madagascar.
My family died, and only my fellow lion companions were able to save me, so I set my location there to honor their efforts.
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Free needs to work some magic if he is to prevent the all-kill...
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On February 03 2009 19:13 snapcrackle wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:10 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 19:09 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 19:02 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 19:01 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 18:59 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:58 fearus wrote:
This guy has a ZvZ tipping 80%.
ZvZ with jd aint a coin flip like other zergs.
It makes 0 logic or sense to send zergs against the BEST ZvZer ever. oh wow... you guys are dumb. sick of explaining this shit to people. learn the teams and strategy plz. ZvZ isnt a coin flip, arguably luck plays a greater role than usual, but mechanics are the determining factor. wtf are you talking about? wtf are you wtf-ing on my post? Luck plays a role, since there are BO wins as in every MU, maybe more than usually, and there are the Overlord scouts, if you send in the wrong direction and your opponent scouts you first you're way behind beacause he gonna counter your build easely. In other MUs the scouts come later and they can be killed/denied again, wtf are you talking about? wow you should really be banned from posting... all i hear from you is bashing other ppl.. claiming you have better knowledge.. and useless predictions.
when did i ever claim i had better knowledge?
i'm wtf'ing because he quoted me yet i said nothing about ZvZ at all.
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MrHoon
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On February 03 2009 19:15 arbiter_md wrote:
I think JD will 5 pool.
I wouldn't be suprised
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On February 03 2009 19:13 MrHoon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:12 EvoChamber wrote:
Hey MrHoon, is the Madagascar thing a reference to the "shut/down/everything" thing? no I was raised by lions when my family's yacht crashed into Madagascar. My family died, and only my fellow lion companions were able to save me, so I set my location there to honor their efforts.
Wow, sounds like something out of a movie.
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On February 03 2009 19:15 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:13 snapcrackle wrote:On February 03 2009 19:10 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 19:09 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 19:02 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 19:01 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 18:59 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 18:58 fearus wrote:
This guy has a ZvZ tipping 80%.
ZvZ with jd aint a coin flip like other zergs.
It makes 0 logic or sense to send zergs against the BEST ZvZer ever. oh wow... you guys are dumb. sick of explaining this shit to people. learn the teams and strategy plz. ZvZ isnt a coin flip, arguably luck plays a greater role than usual, but mechanics are the determining factor. wtf are you talking about? wtf are you wtf-ing on my post? Luck plays a role, since there are BO wins as in every MU, maybe more than usually, and there are the Overlord scouts, if you send in the wrong direction and your opponent scouts you first you're way behind beacause he gonna counter your build easely. In other MUs the scouts come later and they can be killed/denied again, wtf are you talking about? wow you should really be banned from posting... all i hear from you is bashing other ppl.. claiming you have better knowledge.. and useless predictions. when did i ever claim i had better knowledge? i'm wtf'ing because he quoted me yet i said nothing about ZvZ at all.
"On February 03 2009 18:59 rushz0rz wrote:
oh wow... you guys are dumb. sick of explaining this shit to people. learn the teams and strategy plz."
owned by proof rather than useless sputter
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On February 03 2009 19:16 MrHoon wrote:I wouldn't be suprised
I would be.
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On February 03 2009 19:16 MrHoon wrote:I wouldn't be suprised
ahaha i dont think he'd do that. would he want to be known as the guy who got an all kill from 2 zvz's and 2 4 pools?
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MrHoon
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On February 03 2009 19:16 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:16 MrHoon wrote:On February 03 2009 19:15 arbiter_md wrote:
I think JD will 5 pool. I wouldn't be suprised ahaha i dont think he'd do that. would he want to be known as the guy who got an all kill from 2 zvz's and 2 4 pools?
it would be funny to watch though
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On February 03 2009 19:16 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:16 MrHoon wrote:On February 03 2009 19:15 arbiter_md wrote:
I think JD will 5 pool. I wouldn't be suprised ahaha i dont think he'd do that. would he want to be known as the guy who got an all kill from 2 zvz's and 2 4 pools?
Yes, that would be an amazing title noone could beat
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On February 03 2009 19:16 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:16 MrHoon wrote:On February 03 2009 19:15 arbiter_md wrote:
I think JD will 5 pool. I wouldn't be suprised ahaha i dont think he'd do that. would he want to be known as the guy who got an all kill from 2 zvz's and 2 4 pools?
Yeah, Jaedong only 5-pooled that game because he knew he was facing some noob and he felt like messing with him.
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On February 03 2009 19:16 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:16 MrHoon wrote:On February 03 2009 19:15 arbiter_md wrote:
I think JD will 5 pool. I wouldn't be suprised ahaha i dont think he'd do that. would he want to be known as the guy who got an all kill from 2 zvz's and 2 4 pools?
Even if he'll do this, he will never be know only as the guy who got an all kill from 2 zvz's and 2 4 pools. It's Jaedong
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yeah zvz is not a coin flip when he has 80% winnng. i seen some koreans on iccup that just zvz and they are like 90%. when iccup had the match up stats
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if free wins this, he has a good chance of all kill, BUT this is jaedong..
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Whats with the Jaedong wallpaper behind them lol
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On February 03 2009 19:16 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:16 MrHoon wrote:On February 03 2009 19:15 arbiter_md wrote:
I think JD will 5 pool. I wouldn't be suprised ahaha i dont think he'd do that. would he want to be known as the guy who got an all kill from 2 zvz's and 2 4 pools?
dont think he cares that much about being known for an all-kill with two 4 pools in it, win is win.
Anyway game is starting!
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Is nal_rA, that commentator on the left?
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even if Free doesn't reverse the all kill, i just dont want jaedong to get an all kill. COME ON FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Let's go Jaedong!
One good game isn't too much to ask for, is it?
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I really don't understand fashion trends. Two commentators with a pink necktie and the third one with a pink shirt. Ultra shitty.
Anyway, on to the game: Jaedong @ 5, Free @ 2
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On February 03 2009 19:20 UnS)DeathTrap wrote:
That commentator on the left is nal_rA?
Yes.
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On February 03 2009 19:18 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:16 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 19:16 MrHoon wrote:On February 03 2009 19:15 arbiter_md wrote:
I think JD will 5 pool. I wouldn't be suprised ahaha i dont think he'd do that. would he want to be known as the guy who got an all kill from 2 zvz's and 2 4 pools? Yes, that would be an amazing title noone could beat
I win
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JAEDONG WHAT ARE YOU DOING AGAIN!!!
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... Dammit JD.
5 pool incoming.
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JAEDONG GOGO 5 POOL THAT BITCH
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On February 03 2009 19:16 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:16 MrHoon wrote:On February 03 2009 19:15 arbiter_md wrote:
I think JD will 5 pool. I wouldn't be suprised ahaha i dont think he'd do that. would he want to be known as the guy who got an all kill from 2 zvz's and 2 4 pools?
failed at another prediction for the 100th time
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what a greedy fucking lamer.
i lost all respect for jaedong. not that i ever had any.
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i actually sorta predicted this... just because he seems to like symmetry or something.....
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lmao hahahahah jaedongjust wanted to put a show on with the eggs popping haha
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MrHoon
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL I CALLED IT HAHAHAHA
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Jaedong... I'm so upset by this decision -_-
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Jaedong again cancels his freaking drones. 5pool again. This man has no nerves.
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5pool is the new 9pool
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I can not believe this...
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On February 03 2009 19:23 rushz0rz wrote:
what a greedy fucking lamer.
i lost all respect for jaedong. not that i ever had any.
dude its risky get over it. haha u act like free had any chance in a straight up match
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MrHoon
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Guys, he just wants his all-kill
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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On February 03 2009 19:23 rushz0rz wrote:
what a greedy fucking lamer.
i lost all respect for jaedong. not that i ever had any.
rofl dude
you serious or just trolling
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Well... i dont blame Jaedong for 4 pooling twice seeing how he DOES have OSL TO PRACITCE FOR TOMORO AND MSL FOR THE NEXT DAY
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jd will be a legend if he 5pools his way to an all kill
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On February 03 2009 19:23 rushz0rz wrote:
what a greedy fucking lamer.
i lost all respect for jaedong. not that i ever had any.
WAAAAAAAAAAA
You lost all respect for someone playing a video game that you watch!
I'm sure jaedong is really, really sad!
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he will defend this i think
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oh no not another 5 drone pool
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MrHoon
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omg loooool
Jaedong is ANGRY YO
3:0 FROM WOONGJIN MAKES HIM ANGRYYY
fuck yeah jaedong llolololl
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On February 03 2009 19:23 rushz0rz wrote:
what a greedy fucking lamer.
i lost all respect for jaedong. not that i ever had any.
Look at the calander
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Oh damn only got 1 kill, oh well, the forge is gone atleast..
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I don't have respect for pro zergs until they 4/5 pool. Jaedong has a new fan!
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On February 03 2009 19:24 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
he will defend this i think
yea
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Free is prepared with a cannon in his mineral line. Loses a pylon and forge though.
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Free blocks JD's choke with a pylon, preventing the natural hatch
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MrHoon
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jaedong has the fucking toughest week of alltime
if he manages to all kill today, and win all the games in both OSL and MSL
thats fucking amazing.
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IN other news : + Show Spoiler + bogus is owning MBC pretty badly, sea vs bogus coming up next
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Yeah, honestly, I don't blame his choice of strategies tonight. He's got hell to deal with this week.
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On February 03 2009 19:23 rushz0rz wrote:
what a greedy fucking lamer.
i lost all respect for jaedong. not that i ever had any.
5 pool is fun it has nothing to do with respect etc.
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i think jaedong will loose this..
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Is there a way to secure the entrance to natural against 5 pool? I mean, let's say you know the zerg will do this. To cut probes a little and get the forge faster or anything? Did anybody try this?
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10forge gets cannons out in time I think.
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yes 5 pool is fun, but it has such a lame aura because of the early days of bw
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ahaha shit, spire going up and free just gets gas.
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Rofl, after finally finish editing and making a very neat organized OP for the other game, I come here and see what's going on only to see Jaedong get 3 kills then tried to do 5pool again with fail! Hahaha ^_^
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On February 03 2009 19:28 arbiter_md wrote:
Is there a way to secure the entrance to natural against 5 pool? I mean, let's say you know the zerg will do this. To cut probes a little and get the forge faster or anything? Did anybody try this?
ofcourse if u are sure you can do it, but u cant be sure and you are behind if zerg doesnt 5 pool..
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It depends on the map, but you can definitely put cannons down on some maps, especially if you can stall for a little time with probes, which is all you need.
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On February 03 2009 19:28 arbiter_md wrote:
Is there a way to secure the entrance to natural against 5 pool? I mean, let's say you know the zerg will do this. To cut probes a little and get the forge faster or anything? Did anybody try this?
just do a normal fe. and make two cannons right away. free he wanted to scout jaedong first before he makes two cannons or a nexus. after that he wouldnt have enough time to make cannons at that entrance
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Mutas pop just as free enters JD's base with a nice number of zealots.
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zealots dead, jaedong loses mutas to frees expansion
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show him who's the boss free
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On February 03 2009 19:32 Cesar2000 wrote:
show him who's the boss free
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this kind of reminds me of Free vs. July on longinus.
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9 pool cannot prevent the P from FE-ing, 5 pool does, it's not even all-in, as you saw JD produced only 6 ling than drones, killed some probes and delayed the exp a lot. It looks like a standard game, with a non-standard method (that's a bit non-sense i hope you got the point behind it)
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Free should go for the third!!!! does he know about it?!
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Looks good for Free now. Destroys JD's third.
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Is this the same Free who got rolled by Jangbi few days ago?
~.~
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got damn JD microed that badly
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On February 03 2009 19:35 Itachii wrote:
Is this the same Free who got rolled by Jangbi few days ago?
~.~
that was GOM, who cares about it..
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On February 03 2009 19:35 Itachii wrote:
Is this the same Free who got rolled by Jangbi few days ago?
~.~
pvp has nothing to do with pvz, dude....
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Hmmm... yes.... JD must lose..... must not let people who have JD as fantasy gain too many points.... mm.... yes..... JD... MUST... LOSE....
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jaedong lost a ton of hydras... but free only has corsair + zealots
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On February 03 2009 19:35 Samurai- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:35 Itachii wrote:
Is this the same Free who got rolled by Jangbi few days ago?
~.~ that is GOM, who cares about it..
dude gom gives the biiggest cash prize to winner than both the osl and msl
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On February 03 2009 19:35 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:35 Itachii wrote:
Is this the same Free who got rolled by Jangbi few days ago?
~.~ pvp has nothing to do with pvz, dude....
hey sherlock, like i didnt know.
I am talking about overall performance.
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Jaedong and free on my fantasy sooo... as much as I want to see all kill jaedong I am failing pretty hard in fantasy PL.
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On February 03 2009 19:35 Samurai- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:35 Itachii wrote:
Is this the same Free who got rolled by Jangbi few days ago?
~.~ that was GOM, who cares about it..
you dont, but who else?
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jd playing like a idiot,
wont be 4 all kill now -_-
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oh snap, looking very bad on JD...... o.O
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well if you all dont see the difference between performance in MSL OSL and WL then GOM, and amount of practice people put elsewhere than gom, than that is your loss..
games are good to watch in GOM, but cant compare...
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This should be too many zealots for Jaedong to handle, I don't think he can make it at this point. But then again, it's Jaedong.
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fuck fantasy PL go jaedong
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Damn jd
now I have to waste my 1337th post on a non epic post about a non all kill
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YES TAKE THAT YOU GREEDY FUCKER, NO ALL KILL FOR YOU.
Free is the fucking garbage man, hes come to clean up this fucking mess.
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Clearly the 5pool was a terrible idea.
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Free will all kill now ^^
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my stream died! WTF??? :'-((
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Fuck Free has ruined 2 all kills now -_-.
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hahahah i love the look on his face. its fucking priceless. like he just got slapped.
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GOO FREE, REVERSE ALL KILL :d
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On February 03 2009 19:42 EvoChamber wrote:
Clearly the 5pool was a terrible idea.
I would only 4 pool on the 10 o'clock position since 1 and 5 tend to scout each other first.
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wat? jaedong didnt all kill? what did free did to counter jaedong's 5pool?
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On February 03 2009 19:42 WingSandrockX wrote:
FREE FOR THE FUCKING WIN!
FUCK YOU JD!
show some respect kid
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damn... jd... your plays don't look as good today.. miss the precision micro etc. maybe it was just the observer view but your micro didn't look like its usual self today. but good job on the 3 / 4
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Damnit JD
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JD was so close from getting his first all-kill
gj Free!
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On February 03 2009 19:43 snapcrackle wrote:
damn... jd... your plays don't look as good today.. miss the precision micro etc. maybe it was just the observer view but your micro didn't look like its usual self today. but good job on the 3 / 4
it looked pretty sharp to me, winning 2 ZvZ easily..
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On February 03 2009 19:43 snapcrackle wrote:
damn... jd... your plays don't look as good today.. miss the precision micro etc. maybe it was just the observer view but your micro didn't look like its usual self today. but good job on the 3 / 4
Really? I didn't find the ZvZs too shabby.
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FUCK! What... The... Fuck...
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rofl, I love how all these anti-JD pop out of nowhere now that JD just lost and missed the PERFECT CHANCE to All-kill.......
oh me? I'm not really an anti-JD nor JD fan... but rather.... SAVIOR!!!!!!!!! Savior > JD ^_^
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Why 5 pool??
Jaedong is ripping me off in fantasy PL.
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On February 03 2009 19:43 kaleidoscope wrote:
wat? jaedong didnt all kill? what did free did to counter jaedong's 5pool?
He scouted it before lings hatched, then built a cannon in his main, let his pylon+forge die, and went 2 gates.
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now we get to watch more games
every1 thank free!
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On February 03 2009 19:44 Samurai- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:43 snapcrackle wrote:
damn... jd... your plays don't look as good today.. miss the precision micro etc. maybe it was just the observer view but your micro didn't look like its usual self today. but good job on the 3 / 4 it looked pretty sharp to me, winning 2 ZvZ easily..
you mean winning 1 ZvZ easily. still the usual jaedong i see is from game 3... games 1, 2 , 4 did not meet my expectations of him
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On February 03 2009 19:40 Samurai- wrote:
well if you all dont see the difference between performance in MSL OSL and WL then GOM, and amount of practice people put elsewhere than gom, than that is your loss..
games are good to watch in GOM, but cant compare...
i am watching games from all leagues, and cant see the difference.Its just another event with prize, its not like they play for free there.
And how do you know who practies for what for how long anyway~~
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Someone did bring up an interesting point back there though: Is a 5 pool where you only make 6 lings, deny toss FE, then just drone as normal equivalent to the 1 prox gate lots of protoss do in PvT? It certainly seems like it, it's hard to completely block and even if it doesn't do that much damage it still forces the other player to defend it, resulting in the 1gateproxy or 5 pool to not exactly be that all-in ish.
(ofc, on maps and situations where you can stop a 5 pool at the nat it's pretty much huge disadvantage for the Z, so not THAT comparable.)
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I think JD lost because of the 5 pool, he didn't do enough damage to make up for lost eco. But whatever, he provided the most epic and entertaining ZvZ I've ever seen tonight. Still a winner in my book, even if he didn't all-kill.
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On February 03 2009 19:42 NovaTheFeared wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:42 EvoChamber wrote:
Clearly the 5pool was a terrible idea. I would only 4 pool on the 10 o'clock position since 1 and 5 tend to scout each other first.
Yeah, that's an interesting way to think of it.
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And very importantly, Free lost only 1 probe to the 4 pool. He was ahead from the start. I was hoping Jaedong would opt for a more standard build.
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lecaf has a lot of options now
woongjin has only free
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MrHoon
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aww JD lost?
I guess Free has confidence when he plays against JD
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I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status.
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On February 03 2009 19:47 amorpheus wrote:
lecaf has a lot of options now
hmmm my guess is..... hmmm FORGG!
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On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status.
He's the worst dragon imo. Backho needs to take his place.
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I'm not sure, was that ForGG they sent out? If so: go ForGG, get me some Fantasys points!
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Seriously, there was no reason to turn the match into a blind 50-50, especially when Tau is Jaedong's map and Free would never let Jaedong back into the game if the pool got scouted.
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On February 03 2009 19:48 snapcrackle wrote:hmmm my guess is..... hmmm FORGG!
That's how you guys do it! I should do that too, calling it out after it's already been announced, I'd never be wrong!
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On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status.
No need for all these epithets. And Free's definitely a dragon, no one doubts that.
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Jae lost, but not Free won ;;
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GG Jaedong ! Now lets watch some other player give it a try .
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On February 03 2009 19:49 EvoChamber wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. No need for all these epithets. And Free's definitely a dragon, no one doubts that.
There's a lot of non-believers.
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On February 03 2009 19:48 Nazzick wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. He's the worst dragon imo. Backho needs to take his place.
Kal is by far the worst
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On February 03 2009 19:48 Nazzick wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. He's the worst dragon imo. Backho needs to take his place.
Oh come on, Jangbi is the worst dragon.
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On February 03 2009 19:49 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:49 EvoChamber wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. No need for all these epithets. And Free's definitely a dragon, no one doubts that. There's a lot of non-believers.
I am a non-believer
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On February 03 2009 19:49 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:48 snapcrackle wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 amorpheus wrote:
lecaf has a lot of options now hmmm my guess is..... hmmm FORGG! That's how you guys do it! I should do that too, calling it out after it's already been announced, I'd never be wrong!
oh was it announced already? ok great its ForGG then.. was a guess... was gonna guess hiya, but that didn't make sense. Then i though maybe a toss but no good toss came up, then i said oh yeah ForGG... but oh ok it was announced..... hater....
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On February 03 2009 19:49 fiRe)HappyZerg wrote:
Jae lost, but not Free won ;;
Does it make a difference? Jaedong tried a risky rush and failed, and free rid his advantage home as you would expect from a player of his caliber.
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On February 03 2009 19:50 Nazzick wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:49 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 19:49 EvoChamber wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. No need for all these epithets. And Free's definitely a dragon, no one doubts that. There's a lot of non-believers. I am a non-believer
Well, you're posts are so low, so I'm assuming you're new. It's okay, we were all ignorant back when we were newcomers.
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Sigh, the whole point of the dragons is that they're at roughly the same skill level. Even the best one isn't a whole level above the rest, and same with the worst.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
ForGG's TvP started to suck fucking hard when he lost to Much and Stork
then again, Stork and Much are very excellent PvT'rs
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On February 03 2009 19:50 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:48 Nazzick wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. He's the worst dragon imo. Backho needs to take his place. Oh come on, Jangbi is the worst dragon.
Lol, I would say Jangbi is 2nd right now, close one though.
+ Show Spoiler +Free got owned in GOMTV by Jangbi
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On February 03 2009 19:50 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:48 Nazzick wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. He's the worst dragon imo. Backho needs to take his place. Oh come on, Jangbi is the worst dragon.
oh i would have to say free is the worst of the dragons.. jangbi is... nvm both are the worst.. I think even though Kal hasn't shown it much many gamers are scared of him as he is unpredictable
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comeon free, forGG is next, then 2 relaxed game and there we are 
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On February 03 2009 19:50 snapcrackle wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:49 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 19:48 snapcrackle wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 amorpheus wrote:
lecaf has a lot of options now hmmm my guess is..... hmmm FORGG! That's how you guys do it! I should do that too, calling it out after it's already been announced, I'd never be wrong! oh was it announced already? ok great its ForGG then.. was a guess... was gonna guess hiya, but that didn't make sense. Then i though maybe a toss but no good toss came up, then i said oh yeah ForGG... but oh ok it was announced..... hater....
hahah you call me a hater? you're the one that attacks me all the time for no reason.
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On February 03 2009 19:51 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:50 Nazzick wrote:On February 03 2009 19:49 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 19:49 EvoChamber wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. No need for all these epithets. And Free's definitely a dragon, no one doubts that. There's a lot of non-believers. I am a non-believer Well, you're posts are so low, so I'm assuming you're new. It's okay, we were all ignorant back when we were newcomers.
No I am just not a person who posts a lot.
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So sAviOr < Bisu < Jaedong < Free ?
But still I'm pretty content with JD making 3 good wins despite not an all-kill and Lecaf most likely taking it anyway.
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Stork is still a solid PvT, Much has been slipping into dementia lately.
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On February 03 2009 19:51 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:50 snapcrackle wrote:On February 03 2009 19:49 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 19:48 snapcrackle wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 amorpheus wrote:
lecaf has a lot of options now hmmm my guess is..... hmmm FORGG! That's how you guys do it! I should do that too, calling it out after it's already been announced, I'd never be wrong! oh was it announced already? ok great its ForGG then.. was a guess... was gonna guess hiya, but that didn't make sense. Then i though maybe a toss but no good toss came up, then i said oh yeah ForGG... but oh ok it was announced..... hater.... hahah you call me a hater? you're the one that attacks me all the time for no reason.
hater
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On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status.
You don't need to get so offensive man, relax.
Free denied my captain an all kill so he'd better do an all kill himself, as he's also on my team
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On February 03 2009 19:49 Cesar2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:48 Nazzick wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. He's the worst dragon imo. Backho needs to take his place. Kal is by far the worst
I agree. Hehe. The only dragons in my eyes are Stork, Jangbi, Bisu and Best. Free's alright at times, but I think Kal's too inconsistent to my liking. Humble opinion =]
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On February 03 2009 19:51 Nazzick wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:50 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:On February 03 2009 19:48 Nazzick wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. He's the worst dragon imo. Backho needs to take his place. Oh come on, Jangbi is the worst dragon. Lol, I would say Jangbi is 2nd right now, close one though. + Show Spoiler +Free got owned in GOMTV by Jangbi
OH GOD. You just proved my point. A PvP proves nothing about their skill, really. It's always been like that, one dominates the other, but that one gets dominated by the next. Don't make ignorant statements like that!
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On February 03 2009 19:53 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:51 Nazzick wrote:On February 03 2009 19:50 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:On February 03 2009 19:48 Nazzick wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. He's the worst dragon imo. Backho needs to take his place. Oh come on, Jangbi is the worst dragon. Lol, I would say Jangbi is 2nd right now, close one though. + Show Spoiler +Free got owned in GOMTV by Jangbi OH GOD. You just proved my point. A PvP proves nothing about their skill, really. It's always been like that, one dominates the other, but that one gets dominated by the next. Don't make ignorant statements like that!
It does when it's + Show Spoiler +
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Russian Federation376 Posts
On February 03 2009 19:51 Nazzick wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:50 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:On February 03 2009 19:48 Nazzick wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. He's the worst dragon imo. Backho needs to take his place. Oh come on, Jangbi is the worst dragon. Lol, I would say Jangbi is 2nd right now, close one though. + Show Spoiler +Free got owned in GOMTV by Jangbi
It was PvP, so it doesn't mean a shit
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On February 03 2009 19:53 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:51 Nazzick wrote:On February 03 2009 19:50 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:On February 03 2009 19:48 Nazzick wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. He's the worst dragon imo. Backho needs to take his place. Oh come on, Jangbi is the worst dragon. Lol, I would say Jangbi is 2nd right now, close one though. + Show Spoiler +Free got owned in GOMTV by Jangbi OH GOD. You just proved my point. A PvP proves nothing about their skill, really. It's always been like that, one dominates the other, but that one gets dominated by the next. Don't make ignorant statements like that!
hater
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On February 03 2009 19:51 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:50 Nazzick wrote:On February 03 2009 19:49 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 19:49 EvoChamber wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. No need for all these epithets. And Free's definitely a dragon, no one doubts that. There's a lot of non-believers. I am a non-believer Well, you're posts are so low, so I'm assuming you're new. It's okay, we were all ignorant back when we were newcomers.
Except hes not calling people bastards, idiots, dumb, stupid, and ignorant. Which makes him more intelligent, better mannered, and more interesting than you'll ever be.
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On February 03 2009 19:53 ~chut~ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. You don't need to get so offensive man, relax. Free denied my captain an all kill so he'd better do an all kill himself, as he's also on my team
hhahaaha but this is whole point of pro teams and competition! it creates partisanship! is it not okay for a fan to get excited for his favourite team and player?
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On February 03 2009 19:54 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:51 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 19:50 Nazzick wrote:On February 03 2009 19:49 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 19:49 EvoChamber wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. No need for all these epithets. And Free's definitely a dragon, no one doubts that. There's a lot of non-believers. I am a non-believer Well, you're posts are so low, so I'm assuming you're new. It's okay, we were all ignorant back when we were newcomers. Except hes not calling people bastards, idiots, dumb, stupid, and ignorant. Which makes him more intelligent, better mannered, and more interesting than you'll ever be.
dude he has almost 3k, be quiet!
I think hes just trolling, or really bad.or both
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On February 03 2009 19:54 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:51 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 19:50 Nazzick wrote:On February 03 2009 19:49 rushz0rz wrote:On February 03 2009 19:49 EvoChamber wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. No need for all these epithets. And Free's definitely a dragon, no one doubts that. There's a lot of non-believers. I am a non-believer Well, you're posts are so low, so I'm assuming you're new. It's okay, we were all ignorant back when we were newcomers. Except hes not calling people bastards, idiots, dumb, stupid, and ignorant. Which makes him more intelligent, better mannered, and more interesting than you'll ever be.
alright, yeah, i got a foul mouth. i'll admit it and i really should get rid of it.
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games started, so enough flaming already..
free placement is nice, forGG is a long way out
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On February 03 2009 19:52 3nickma wrote:
So sAviOr < Bisu < Jaedong < Free ?
But still I'm pretty content with JD making 3 good wins despite not an all-kill and Lecaf most likely taking it anyway.
You got it ALL wrong pal.... if ANYTHING, it's sAviOr > Bisu, Jaedong, Free..... remember, this is 2009!!!!
Besides I think it's more like sAviOr > Bisu > Jaedong > Free
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forgg looks like a monkey. its funny.
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On February 03 2009 19:59 WingSandrockX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:43 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 19:42 WingSandrockX wrote:
FREE FOR THE FUCKING WIN!
FUCK YOU JD! show some respect kid kid? LOL ok there.. Who the FUCK do you think you are? lmfaoo... idiots thinking they're the shit online
good edit
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Russian Federation376 Posts
On February 03 2009 19:59 WingSandrockX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:43 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 19:42 WingSandrockX wrote:
FREE FOR THE FUCKING WIN!
FUCK YOU JD! show some respect kid kid? LOL ok there.. Who the FUCK do you think you are? lmfaoo... idiots thinking they're the shit online
Calm down please, saying "Fuck you JD" doesn't make you grown up badass grandpa.
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On February 03 2009 19:59 rushz0rz wrote:
forgg looks like a monkey. its funny.
Lecaf team is full of bastards, monkeys etc.
It's only Woongjin that has the good-looking men.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
Man, and I thought SKT threads were bad
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On February 03 2009 20:01 amorpheus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:59 rushz0rz wrote:
forgg looks like a monkey. its funny. Lecaf team is full of bastards, monkeys etc. It's only Woongjin that has the good-looking men.
THIS MAN IS CORRECT.
HEY WE CAN BE PALS!
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On February 03 2009 20:01 MrHoon wrote:
Man, and I thought SKT threads were bad
You're not kidding.
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On February 03 2009 20:03 WingSandrockX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 20:01 snapcrackle wrote:On February 03 2009 19:59 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 19:43 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 19:42 WingSandrockX wrote:
FREE FOR THE FUCKING WIN!
FUCK YOU JD! show some respect kid kid? LOL ok there.. Who the FUCK do you think you are? lmfaoo... idiots thinking they're the shit online good edit dont really want to brag about my car lol to a guy in romania..
You have already said enough, let it be.
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damn forgg is showing some good saves in some bad situations
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On February 03 2009 19:58 QuickStriker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:52 3nickma wrote:
So sAviOr < Bisu < Jaedong < Free ?
But still I'm pretty content with JD making 3 good wins despite not an all-kill and Lecaf most likely taking it anyway. You got it ALL wrong pal.... if ANYTHING, it's sAviOr > Bisu, Jaedong, Free..... remember, this is 2009!!!! Besides I think it's more like sAviOr > Bisu > Jaedong > Free
I see your point about 2009 and sAviOr has finally impressed me with his very nice results
But still sAviOr lost to Bisu all the time. Who then had a tough time against Jaedong (who should have a walkover against other Protoss since Bisu is or was a Zerg killer) yet JD still looses games to Free. If that's makes sense or I'm missing your point
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On February 03 2009 19:55 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:53 ~chut~ wrote:On February 03 2009 19:47 rushz0rz wrote:
I'm so glad Free denied that bastard his all kill. He's got a long road ahead of him still if he wants to win it for Woongjin. A reverse all kill by Free would only prove his Dragon status. You don't need to get so offensive man, relax. Free denied my captain an all kill so he'd better do an all kill himself, as he's also on my team hhahaaha but this is whole point of pro teams and competition! it creates partisanship! is it not okay for a fan to get excited for his favourite team and player?
I'd say there's a difference between getting excited and saying someone like JD is a bastard/newb/stupid guy.
Hate him, dislike him whatever, but show a little bit of manners, supporting is different thing from this.
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United States7488 Posts
On February 03 2009 20:03 WingSandrockX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 20:01 snapcrackle wrote:On February 03 2009 19:59 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 19:43 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 19:42 WingSandrockX wrote:
FREE FOR THE FUCKING WIN!
FUCK YOU JD! show some respect kid kid? LOL ok there.. Who the FUCK do you think you are? lmfaoo... idiots thinking they're the shit online good edit dont really want to brag about my car lol to a guy in romania..
Plus bragging about your car online is sort of like those idiots who think they're the shit online.
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mass vults, why even get zealots.
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ughhh I wanna sleep...
come on GGplay !!!
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On February 03 2009 20:06 semioldguy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 20:03 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 20:01 snapcrackle wrote:On February 03 2009 19:59 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 19:43 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 19:42 WingSandrockX wrote:
FREE FOR THE FUCKING WIN!
FUCK YOU JD! show some respect kid kid? LOL ok there.. Who the FUCK do you think you are? lmfaoo... idiots thinking they're the shit online good edit dont really want to brag about my car lol to a guy in romania.. Plus bragging about your car online is sort of like those idiots who think they're the shit online.
COUGH WING COUGH RIGHT?
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I think free is slowly gaining an advantage. ForGG never gets to keep a lot of tanks.
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On February 03 2009 20:06 LimitlessSky wrote:
ughhh I wanna sleep...
come on GGplay !!!
Jaedong > OO[S.G]
Jaedong > Zero
Jaedong > GGPlay
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is anyone even watching the game? its pretty good.
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Wasn't Free the one who took 5 bases to outmacro Mind?
His PvT micro blows imo.
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Free is macroing like a beast
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Free wins every battle. This won't go much longer.
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On February 03 2009 20:07 WingSandrockX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 20:06 semioldguy wrote:On February 03 2009 20:03 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 20:01 snapcrackle wrote:On February 03 2009 19:59 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 19:43 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 19:42 WingSandrockX wrote:
FREE FOR THE FUCKING WIN!
FUCK YOU JD! show some respect kid kid? LOL ok there.. Who the FUCK do you think you are? lmfaoo... idiots thinking they're the shit online good edit dont really want to brag about my car lol to a guy in romania.. Plus bragging about your car online is sort of like those idiots who think they're the shit online. lol i know but unlike them I got proof haha
Sigh....
You missed the point entirely.
Bragging makes you pathetic.
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On February 03 2009 20:08 rushz0rz wrote:
omg so many vults....
omg so many goons....
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On February 03 2009 20:07 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 20:06 LimitlessSky wrote:
ughhh I wanna sleep...
come on GGplay !!! Jaedong > OO[S.G] Jaedong > Zero Jaedong > GGPlay
Oh shit.
My bad...I just want this match to end already...
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I love the commentators!!!
Psionic~~~~~ storm~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
storm~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I love how the commentators love STORMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It seems like free is the macro beast this game. I don't know what forgg is doing.
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I dislike how free has his trap open when he plays...looks like he is in good shape to win
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Free has SO much stuff. Breaks into ForGG's main now and GG.
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it was like the goons were dancing with the tanks! and then they disappeared!
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ROFL, THE PROBES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GGGGGGG..... REVERSE all-kill??
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Free should run over to Jaedong for a hand slap!
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Damn nice macro there by free =]
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On February 03 2009 20:14 QuickStriker wrote:
ROFL, THE PROBES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GGGGGGG..... REVERSE all-kill??
probably not
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That was a good game. GJ free!
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Damn fine game from free.
and to everyone who keeps on with the mindless hostility and aggression, just drop it please.
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Young sounds about right. Though I'm kinda hoping tosky will get a turn.
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On February 03 2009 20:14 WingSandrockX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 20:09 PanN wrote:On February 03 2009 20:07 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 20:06 semioldguy wrote:On February 03 2009 20:03 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 20:01 snapcrackle wrote:On February 03 2009 19:59 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 19:43 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 19:42 WingSandrockX wrote:
FREE FOR THE FUCKING WIN!
FUCK YOU JD! show some respect kid kid? LOL ok there.. Who the FUCK do you think you are? lmfaoo... idiots thinking they're the shit online good edit dont really want to brag about my car lol to a guy in romania.. Plus bragging about your car online is sort of like those idiots who think they're the shit online. lol i know but unlike them I got proof haha Sigh.... You missed the point entirely. Bragging makes you pathetic. does it really? i dont really want to bring this OT..if you want to talk about it, you can PM Me
Yes it does, if you can't defend a point and resort to showing off your car, you're pathetic.
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On February 03 2009 20:15 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 20:14 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 20:09 PanN wrote:On February 03 2009 20:07 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 20:06 semioldguy wrote:On February 03 2009 20:03 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 20:01 snapcrackle wrote:On February 03 2009 19:59 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 19:43 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 19:42 WingSandrockX wrote:
FREE FOR THE FUCKING WIN!
FUCK YOU JD! show some respect kid kid? LOL ok there.. Who the FUCK do you think you are? lmfaoo... idiots thinking they're the shit online good edit dont really want to brag about my car lol to a guy in romania.. Plus bragging about your car online is sort of like those idiots who think they're the shit online. lol i know but unlike them I got proof haha Sigh.... You missed the point entirely. Bragging makes you pathetic. does it really? i dont really want to bring this OT..if you want to talk about it, you can PM Me Yes it does, if you can't defend a point and resort to showing off your car, you're pathetic.
can you get over it already, stop derailling damm thread ffs.
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REVERSE ALL-KILL FREE!!!! Woo, Jaedong and Free both on my fantasy team:D
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Now we really need BackHo!
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On February 03 2009 19:59 WingSandrockX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 19:43 Geo.Rion wrote:On February 03 2009 19:42 WingSandrockX wrote:
FREE FOR THE FUCKING WIN!
FUCK YOU JD! show some respect kid kid? LOL ok there.. Who the FUCK do you think you are? lmfaoo... idiots thinking they're the shit online
You act like a kid, i dont know how old are you, what car do you have, i dont care, you are bad mannered, if you get that angry while watching SC, you shall quit, it hurts your health. My favorite player lost, and i still dont troll this topic, some ppl read this because they want LR.
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On February 03 2009 20:16 Itachii wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 20:15 PanN wrote:On February 03 2009 20:14 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 20:09 PanN wrote:On February 03 2009 20:07 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 20:06 semioldguy wrote:On February 03 2009 20:03 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 20:01 snapcrackle wrote:On February 03 2009 19:59 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 19:43 Geo.Rion wrote:
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show some respect kid kid? LOL ok there.. Who the FUCK do you think you are? lmfaoo... idiots thinking they're the shit online good edit dont really want to brag about my car lol to a guy in romania.. Plus bragging about your car online is sort of like those idiots who think they're the shit online. lol i know but unlike them I got proof haha Sigh.... You missed the point entirely. Bragging makes you pathetic. does it really? i dont really want to bring this OT..if you want to talk about it, you can PM Me Yes it does, if you can't defend a point and resort to showing off your car, you're pathetic. can you get over it already, stop derailling damm thread ffs.
He does this sort of thing in nearly every thread, this is the first time I've said something, and if you haven't noticed this thread has been "derailed" the entire time.
Either way, GG from free.
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hey people who are talking about non OZ vs STARS:
cut the crap out
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Damn you ForGG, you could have given me 4 points. Now I get a single one if I'm lucky.
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Oz: Where's Backho when you need him?
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wow, really grate game by free. way to break the push.
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flying ban hammers everywhere
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Seems like people can't just enjoy a match anymore.
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hahahaha theres so much rage in this thread.
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Correct me if I'm wrong - Oz sent Hiya, right?
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On February 03 2009 20:24 johanes wrote:
now Free vs. ?
Hiya
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On February 03 2009 20:24 WingSandrockX wrote:^ LOL I know I hope we can get this thread back on topic cause I already PM'd PANN cause he obviously has problems with me ^^
have you ever thought that maybe everyone has a problem with you
nice to see free playing well after he got crushed by jangbi, free one of my favs
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God, that ban couldn't have come sooner. What a douchebag.
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On February 03 2009 20:25 benjammin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 20:24 WingSandrockX wrote:^ LOL I know I hope we can get this thread back on topic cause I already PM'd PANN cause he obviously has problems with me ^^ have you ever thought that maybe everyone has a problem with you nice to see free playing well after he got crushed by jangbi, free one of my favs
For some reason Free is someone I can't like. I guess I just don't like his playing style.
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On February 03 2009 20:20 WingSandrockX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 20:15 PanN wrote:On February 03 2009 20:14 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 20:09 PanN wrote:On February 03 2009 20:07 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 20:06 semioldguy wrote:On February 03 2009 20:03 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 20:01 snapcrackle wrote:On February 03 2009 19:59 WingSandrockX wrote:On February 03 2009 19:43 Geo.Rion wrote:
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show some respect kid kid? LOL ok there.. Who the FUCK do you think you are? lmfaoo... idiots thinking they're the shit online good edit dont really want to brag about my car lol to a guy in romania.. Plus bragging about your car online is sort of like those idiots who think they're the shit online. lol i know but unlike them I got proof haha Sigh.... You missed the point entirely. Bragging makes you pathetic. does it really? i dont really want to bring this OT..if you want to talk about it, you can PM Me Yes it does, if you can't defend a point and resort to showing off your car, you're pathetic. Well..you obviously aren't using to having things majority of the people don't have. A lot of people on FerrariChatshow off their cars and bring it up in each post.. and no I don't drive a Ferrari don't worry Maybe, I've been hanging around them too long It's a different mind set for people that have and the have-not's. I just want to rub it in the guys face, thinking I'm some "kid" cause someone what kind of kid drives a 80k car? =/ PanN, like I said PM me if you want to talk, don't derail this thread
You are comparing a forum that is dedicated to cars and people talking about their cars and a starcraft match thread and talking about cars.
I don't get the connection.
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On February 03 2009 20:26 WingSandrockX wrote:by the way guys, sorry for derailing the thread my apologies!
to late I guess?
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Now if someone is still interested in the games: HiyA will play.
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come on FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
rushz0rz; you're so fucking close to getting a 2-day ban, tone it down
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Hiya is pretty much lecaf's last hope. He's a beast in winner's league so this should be good.
Colosseum 2
Free 7 oclock
Hiya 2 oclock
standard play thus far.
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On February 03 2009 20:29 Plexa wrote:
rushz0rz; you're so fucking close to getting a 2-day ban, tone it down
huh! I stopped all the arguing so long ago!
i was like the only one commenting on the last game.
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On February 03 2009 20:26 Nazzick wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 20:25 benjammin wrote:On February 03 2009 20:24 WingSandrockX wrote:^ LOL I know I hope we can get this thread back on topic cause I already PM'd PANN cause he obviously has problems with me ^^ have you ever thought that maybe everyone has a problem with you nice to see free playing well after he got crushed by jangbi, free one of my favs For some reason Free is someone I can't like. I guess I just don't like his playing style.
really? that is exactly why i like free :X none of the usual protoss annoying crap, just good old fashioned face-smashing macro crammed down your throat until you cry
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On February 03 2009 20:30 benjammin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 20:26 Nazzick wrote:On February 03 2009 20:25 benjammin wrote:On February 03 2009 20:24 WingSandrockX wrote:^ LOL I know I hope we can get this thread back on topic cause I already PM'd PANN cause he obviously has problems with me ^^ have you ever thought that maybe everyone has a problem with you nice to see free playing well after he got crushed by jangbi, free one of my favs For some reason Free is someone I can't like. I guess I just don't like his playing style. really? that is exactly why i like free :X none of the usual protoss annoying crap, just good old fashioned face-smashing macro crammed down your throat until you cry
free's play style isnt really visible because what he shines at the most is when he enters a battle, he micros almost every single unit individually, allowing him to win fights.
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On February 03 2009 20:30 benjammin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 20:26 Nazzick wrote:On February 03 2009 20:25 benjammin wrote:On February 03 2009 20:24 WingSandrockX wrote:^ LOL I know I hope we can get this thread back on topic cause I already PM'd PANN cause he obviously has problems with me ^^ have you ever thought that maybe everyone has a problem with you nice to see free playing well after he got crushed by jangbi, free one of my favs For some reason Free is someone I can't like. I guess I just don't like his playing style. really? that is exactly why i like free :X none of the usual protoss annoying crap, just good old fashioned face-smashing macro crammed down your throat until you cry
I love his micro, especially with the goons. And like his game vs. Jaedong, he doesn't get all fancy, just sticks it to him. Mass zealots and sairs, slowly gets temps as hydra numbers go up.
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2 fact from HiyA
1 gate robo from free
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okay Lecaf obiously keeps Lomo for the last game
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i wanna see some sick dragoon micro from Free to combat this 2 fact.
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yeah, some of his goon micro in early stages of games is jaw dropping, especially seeing him dismantle an early 1fac push
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oh god, this could get ugly. Free doesn't even know its coming. If HiyA gets a good position on the cliff, it could be devastating for Free.
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HiyA pushing with 3 tanks and some vultures
Free getting a reaver.
Hiya seiged on frees 3rd base highground at the choke.
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mine mine min min mineeeee~
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well let's see if idra's 2fac mantra holds up, "it's basically impossible against a protoss who techs and micros well"
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lol commentators are going nuts
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HiyA wins, making him more of a WL allstar.
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Hiya saves the day, but damm, Free did really well.
gg!
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Oh wow, that attack was pretty well timed.
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hiya - "aye jaedong don't worry i'll clean up this mess you left"
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Man, HiyA can not be stopped!!
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Well, at least Free denied Jaedong's all kill and made a good effort at reversing it. GG's.
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What a valuable player HiyA has been.
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nikks combo of free + hiya is probably going to push him farther into first place now with the way that match played out lol.
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lol, and right on cue as i mention free's micro he of course loses to a 2fac
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That was pretty much a BO win but well played by hiya anyways.
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Could HiyA be the next Leta? Kinda early to tell, but I think he can do it
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wtf...I think Free has a winning streak over Jaedong now.
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Jaedong x Zero is the must see game for today
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lol I was watching the STX vs MBC game, and they showed the scoreboard of the standings of teams in winner's league, Hiya has more wins than half the teams have total in winners league. What a beast.
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damn... why did jd 5 pool? RUINING my fantasy PL! probably could've taken him straight up, too (although he was probably tired from 3 wins)
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On February 03 2009 21:08 29 fps wrote:
damn... why did jd 5 pool? RUINING my fantasy PL! probably could've taken him straight up, too (although he was probably tired from 3 wins)
What's wrong with 5pool? He 5pooled first game too, but I don't hear you whining about that game.
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On February 03 2009 09:09 Sunyveil wrote:This. Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 08:27 ZoW wrote:
JD<OO[S.G]
Hiya>The rest
Hiya scores another all-kill. Hellz ya! Or this.
ehh close enough
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On February 03 2009 21:08 29 fps wrote:
damn... why did jd 5 pool? RUINING my fantasy PL! probably could've taken him straight up, too (although he was probably tired from 3 wins)
Look at his schedule, lol.
He has to play his OSL game tonight against the second best ZvZ in the world, something he better be ready for, and then he has to play his group of death MSL games the very next night against 3 of the 5 best ZvT in the world, all of whom have different and dangerous terran styles.
Something tells me he hasnt been playing much ZvP lately.
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Ahh, Free beats Jaedong again.
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MrHoon
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On February 03 2009 22:59 Atrioc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 21:08 29 fps wrote:
damn... why did jd 5 pool? RUINING my fantasy PL! probably could've taken him straight up, too (although he was probably tired from 3 wins) Look at his schedule, lol. He has to play his OSL game tonight against the second best ZvZ in the world, something he better be ready for, and then he has to play his group of death MSL games the very next night against 3 of the 5 best ZvT in the world, all of whom have different and dangerous terran styles. Something tells me he hasnt been playing much ZvP lately.
yeah, this is such a tough week for JD
If it was some random bitches, it wouldn't really matter, but facing the 2nd best ZvZr and 3 Terrans with 3 different TvZ styles (1 who JD HAS to beat or will fall into a slump forever), it would be simply amazing if JD makes out alive and clean.
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Jaedong getting beat by Free again, as expected!
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Yeah, he's simply too busy nowadays, he has to play 3-4 games against S-class players in two days as wella s this, I highly doubt he would've won, but I still wished he did. =\
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United States12607 Posts
I'm curious why WJ didn't bring out free earlier, he seems to do really well against JD.
Any VOD recommendations??
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United States1865 Posts
On February 04 2009 03:13 jwd241224 wrote:
I'm curious why WJ didn't bring out free earlier, he seems to do really well against JD.
Any VOD recommendations??
JD vs ZerO is the best ZvZ in a long while
other than that they were all pretty one sided. Free vs fOrGG was pretty good too
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I really wish I could down vote posts and make them hide like on youtube. This LR was soiled with so much crap, i'm hungry.
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I'm watching through the VODs right now...Jaedong v Zero was pretty much the coolest ZvZ I've ever seen (I just started watching SC ~3 months ago, so anything further back I haven't seen).
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Yes, I love Zero.
I love Jaedong.
They had one of the greatest ZvZ's ever.
Jaedong's opening unit movement was simply so smart, and Zero's response was solid, VERY solid. Then the game took some crazy pills and went over the edge. Wowowowow, seriously amazing.
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On February 04 2009 04:01 Jaksiel wrote:
I'm watching through the VODs right now...Jaedong v Zero was pretty much the coolest ZvZ I've ever seen (I just started watching SC ~3 months ago, so anything further back I haven't seen).
what's it like getting into a game ten years after its release
(belated welcome to tl)
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fuck yea JD
hiya proving his worth to OZ
gl with teh rest of the week man... your gonna need it JD
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On February 04 2009 04:51 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 04:01 Jaksiel wrote:
I'm watching through the VODs right now...Jaedong v Zero was pretty much the coolest ZvZ I've ever seen (I just started watching SC ~3 months ago, so anything further back I haven't seen). what's it like getting into a game ten years after its release (belated welcome to tl)
It's interesting. I've been absorbing some of the history, browsing past Starleague results and VODs and the like.
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can hiya stop being good alrdy? god i hate him and his extremely ugly face =x
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i love how this game always brings in new people. young people.
most of the ones i play on battlenet are like 14-20.
im 30 >.<
edit: o ya and hiya is a beast. gj
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On February 04 2009 06:46 cUrsOr wrote:
i love how this game always brings in new people. young people.
most of the ones i play on battlenet are like 14-20.
im 30 >.<
edit: o ya and hiya is a beast. gj
I'm not that young. I'm 24 and I bought Starcraft when it first came out, having already been weened on WarCraft and WarCraft II.
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On February 04 2009 06:46 cUrsOr wrote:
i love how this game always brings in new people. young people.
most of the ones i play on battlenet are like 14-20.
im 30 >.<
edit: o ya and hiya is a beast. gj
It would really be cool if someone did a rechears (I do not know how to spell it) on the averge age Teamliquid followers. Im also 30 and I bought the game when it came out for 10? yers ago.
And yes Hiya rocks just love that fish face.
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On February 04 2009 07:53 sh02hp0869 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 06:46 cUrsOr wrote:
i love how this game always brings in new people. young people.
most of the ones i play on battlenet are like 14-20.
im 30 >.<
edit: o ya and hiya is a beast. gj It would really be cool if someone did a rechears (I do not know how to spell it) on the averge age Teamliquid followers. Im also 30 and I bought the game when it came out for 10? yers ago. And yes Hiya rocks just love that fish face.
I got the game for my birthday when it came out... and I'm 21
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This could have only gone better if Free would have all-killed. Even him losing to Jaedong in the first place is preferable over eventually losing to Hiya!
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Wow I just saw the games
Even though Jaedong didn't get all-kill, he fucking rocks by 3-0'ing the first three players.
rush0rz, you're the biggest douche I've seen btw, thank god that Free's all-kill got denied too so it doesn't make idiots like you happy
And I think Jaedong doing 5 pool vs Free was a bad choice imo. Free was going FE, but the 5 pool forced Free to run on one base, 2 gate and mass zealots (which in return, put pressure on Jaedong and couldn't mass expand)
Yeah they were even after Free got lucky and scouted Jaedong in first try and blocked his inital lings. Not only is Tau Cross horrible ZvP map, I really don't see Free beating JD straight up unless something like that mass archon game happens again.
And WTF is up with Hiya winning all these games left and right? Geez Oz is seriously a powerhouse
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On February 04 2009 15:24 AzureEye wrote:
Wow I just saw the games
Even though Jaedong didn't get all-kill, he fucking rocks by 3-0'ing the first three players.
rush0rz, you're the biggest douche I've seen btw, thank god that Free's all-kill got denied too so it doesn't make idiots like you happy
Yeah they were even after Free got lucky and scouted Jaedong in first try and blocked his inital lings. Not only is Tau Cross horrible ZvP map, I really don't see Free beating JD straight up unless something like that mass archon game happens again.
Well at least I'm not some blind fanboy. JD got denied and I'm happy. Could careless if Free reversed it, just glad he denied JD. Free can beat JD straight up, and he has. Don't be a narrow-minded fanboy.
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I like how free got lucky scouting him on the first try when its a 50/50 chance, being a 3 player map...seriously guys atleast try hide your bias and be somewhat realistic. I think free probably wins a straight up game either way, he has the best PvZ (Beat Savior 2-1 in gom, has beaten jd 3 out of the last 4 times they played.) right now. And his PvT has been on fire lately. His PvP is as usual, inconsistent.
And for pete's sake Free beat JD 2-1, there was a game beside the mass archon game, and the game jd won he used a 1 hatch lurker drop build....(real straight up huh?) I mean it was a great play and follow up but certainly not "straight up".So essentially recently hes lost every straight up match that was played as well as 1 unsuccessful cheese so basically your argument is kinda(really) bad.
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On February 04 2009 17:47 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 15:24 AzureEye wrote:
Wow I just saw the games
Even though Jaedong didn't get all-kill, he fucking rocks by 3-0'ing the first three players.
rush0rz, you're the biggest douche I've seen btw, thank god that Free's all-kill got denied too so it doesn't make idiots like you happy
Yeah they were even after Free got lucky and scouted Jaedong in first try and blocked his inital lings. Not only is Tau Cross horrible ZvP map, I really don't see Free beating JD straight up unless something like that mass archon game happens again.
Well at least I'm not some blind fanboy. JD got denied and I'm happy. Could careless if Free reversed it, just glad he denied JD. Free can beat JD straight up, and he has. Don't be a narrow-minded fanboy.
Denied? His cheese failed and I'm happy because he beat 3 players anyway. Free is a good PvZer but I don't see him beating the best ZvPer in a normal circumstance when JD doesn't make crucial mistakes.
Lol don't be pissed, if I'm a fanboy, you're obviously a biased hater so eat a 3-1 down your throat and the 1 loss comes from a failed cheese. Rage more please
As someone has already said before:
On February 03 2009 18:20 KreaGata wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:17 rushz0rz wrote:
i think it's even more pathetic that jaedong is so happy and proud of himself and even did that little ceremony. Why are you getting so butthurt?
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Some pretty good games! The JD vs Zero game was awesome!
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On February 05 2009 01:08 AzureEye wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 17:47 rushz0rz wrote:On February 04 2009 15:24 AzureEye wrote:
Wow I just saw the games
Even though Jaedong didn't get all-kill, he fucking rocks by 3-0'ing the first three players.
rush0rz, you're the biggest douche I've seen btw, thank god that Free's all-kill got denied too so it doesn't make idiots like you happy
Yeah they were even after Free got lucky and scouted Jaedong in first try and blocked his inital lings. Not only is Tau Cross horrible ZvP map, I really don't see Free beating JD straight up unless something like that mass archon game happens again.
Well at least I'm not some blind fanboy. JD got denied and I'm happy. Could careless if Free reversed it, just glad he denied JD. Free can beat JD straight up, and he has. Don't be a narrow-minded fanboy. Denied? His cheese failed and I'm happy because he beat 3 players anyway. Free is a good PvZer but I don't see him beating the best ZvPer in a normal circumstance when JD doesn't make crucial mistakes. Lol don't be pissed, if I'm a fanboy, you're obviously a biased hater so eat a 3-1 down your throat and the 1 loss comes from a failed cheese. Rage more please As someone has already said before: Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:20 KreaGata wrote:On February 03 2009 18:17 rushz0rz wrote:
i think it's even more pathetic that jaedong is so happy and proud of himself and even did that little ceremony. Why are you getting so butthurt?
Hahaha, you add so many factors that your argument is just terrible. "In normal circumstances when JD doesn't make crucial mistakes." Yeah well, I can say the same thing! Free can beat JD if it's normal circumstances and doesn't make any crucial mistakes! JD tried to cheese him and he got owned, and he got what he deserved for trying two 4 pools in one night. Pretty ridiculous that the "top Zerg in the world" has to 4 pool twice to get his all kill, don't you think?
See: Free 8 wins - 6 losses Jaedong. That's a lot better than most other Protoss' on the scene right now. Oh wait, are you going to argue that they don't count because it wasn't under normal circumstances and JD made crucial mistakes? Ignorance is bliss.
Eat it.
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As it has been pointed out before his argument is extremely poor and flawed but nonetheless you really shouldnt get so worked up over it, its just the internet after all.
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You hate JD/fOrGG.
We fanboys like them.
Live goes on.
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On February 05 2009 12:07 Avidkeystamper wrote:
You hate JD/fOrGG.
We fanboys like them.
Live goes on.
I don't hate forgg, and I don't hate JD.
I realize all players will have their fanbase, and that I'll only attack blind fanboyism, like the one above that I replied to.
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On February 05 2009 01:08 AzureEye wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 17:47 rushz0rz wrote:On February 04 2009 15:24 AzureEye wrote:
Wow I just saw the games
Even though Jaedong didn't get all-kill, he fucking rocks by 3-0'ing the first three players.
rush0rz, you're the biggest douche I've seen btw, thank god that Free's all-kill got denied too so it doesn't make idiots like you happy
Yeah they were even after Free got lucky and scouted Jaedong in first try and blocked his inital lings. Not only is Tau Cross horrible ZvP map, I really don't see Free beating JD straight up unless something like that mass archon game happens again.
Well at least I'm not some blind fanboy. JD got denied and I'm happy. Could careless if Free reversed it, just glad he denied JD. Free can beat JD straight up, and he has. Don't be a narrow-minded fanboy. Denied? His cheese failed and I'm happy because he beat 3 players anyway. Free is a good PvZer but I don't see him beating the best ZvPer in a normal circumstance when JD doesn't make crucial mistakes. Lol don't be pissed, if I'm a fanboy, you're obviously a biased hater so eat a 3-1 down your throat and the 1 loss comes from a failed cheese. Rage more please As someone has already said before: Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 18:20 KreaGata wrote:On February 03 2009 18:17 rushz0rz wrote:
i think it's even more pathetic that jaedong is so happy and proud of himself and even did that little ceremony. Why are you getting so butthurt?
Fortunately for us, Jaedong is not the best ZvP-er in the world right now.
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On February 05 2009 12:09 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2009 12:07 Avidkeystamper wrote:
You hate JD/fOrGG.
We fanboys like them.
Live goes on. I don't hate forgg, and I don't hate JD. I realize all players will have their fanbase, and that I'll only attack blind fanboyism, like the one above that I replied to.
Hmmm, I don't know, you posted how ZvZ was completely luck based right after JD won a ZvZ. Makes me think otherwise.
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