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sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
January 23 2009 12:44 GMT
#501
On January 23 2009 20:55 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 20:54 EvoChamber wrote:
On January 23 2009 20:44 Plexa wrote:
On January 23 2009 20:42 Itachii wrote:
I was really scared after 2nd game, JD's decision were so bad~~ but after all, my love wins.
Ya... Jaedong doesn't look like he could win the OSL just yet... His mid-late decision have been faulty across the board lately (with so many early game/early mid game wins how can you blame him ). Although im sure he'll rise to the occasion and out perform all our expectations


Jaedong's weakness is his impatience to win. Sometimes he just hands Terran mech players wins because he doesn't like waiting 15 minutes to mass up muta/hydra/ling.

Needless to say, I'm kinda worried about his MSL group of death.

the MSL group E for Jaedong is easier because he only has to practice one matchup, not two (like here, or like the other people in group E have to do). also, since he qualified for OSL Ro16 and no proleague this week, he can surely just focus on the MSL with no real pressure. i think it's really really good for him that he qualified tonight.

While that's true he only needs to practice one matchup, I really have to disagree. There isn't much that is harder than getting out of a group with the 3 best TvZ players today.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
puLs.ReADy
Profile Joined November 2005
Bulgaria1301 Posts
January 23 2009 13:08 GMT
#502
yupiiiiii go Jaedong ;0
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 13:13:08
January 23 2009 13:11 GMT
#503
On January 23 2009 21:44 sixghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 20:55 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 23 2009 20:54 EvoChamber wrote:
On January 23 2009 20:44 Plexa wrote:
On January 23 2009 20:42 Itachii wrote:
I was really scared after 2nd game, JD's decision were so bad~~ but after all, my love wins.
Ya... Jaedong doesn't look like he could win the OSL just yet... His mid-late decision have been faulty across the board lately (with so many early game/early mid game wins how can you blame him ). Although im sure he'll rise to the occasion and out perform all our expectations


Jaedong's weakness is his impatience to win. Sometimes he just hands Terran mech players wins because he doesn't like waiting 15 minutes to mass up muta/hydra/ling.

Needless to say, I'm kinda worried about his MSL group of death.

the MSL group E for Jaedong is easier because he only has to practice one matchup, not two (like here, or like the other people in group E have to do). also, since he qualified for OSL Ro16 and no proleague this week, he can surely just focus on the MSL with no real pressure. i think it's really really good for him that he qualified tonight.

While that's true he only needs to practice one matchup, I really have to disagree. There isn't much that is harder than getting out of a group with the 3 best TvZ players today.

I think it's harder for Flash, FBH, or Hwasin than it is for Jaedong. It would also be harder for JD if the best PvZ player currently was also in the group, or if Leta was in it. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's not as hard as people are making it out to be.
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anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
January 23 2009 13:29 GMT
#504
Fuck, in the picture Jae's pullstring's aren't the same length....
rahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhr
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 23 2009 13:36 GMT
#505
YESSS
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
January 23 2009 14:01 GMT
#506
now just bisu left and we will have a greeeat OSL
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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 23 2009 14:02 GMT
#507
fuck yea JD. this OSL woudlnt of been right without him
Forever Young
sh02hp0869
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden460 Posts
January 23 2009 14:14 GMT
#508
On January 23 2009 22:11 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 21:44 sixghost wrote:
On January 23 2009 20:55 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 23 2009 20:54 EvoChamber wrote:
On January 23 2009 20:44 Plexa wrote:
On January 23 2009 20:42 Itachii wrote:
I was really scared after 2nd game, JD's decision were so bad~~ but after all, my love wins.
Ya... Jaedong doesn't look like he could win the OSL just yet... His mid-late decision have been faulty across the board lately (with so many early game/early mid game wins how can you blame him ). Although im sure he'll rise to the occasion and out perform all our expectations


Jaedong's weakness is his impatience to win. Sometimes he just hands Terran mech players wins because he doesn't like waiting 15 minutes to mass up muta/hydra/ling.

Needless to say, I'm kinda worried about his MSL group of death.

the MSL group E for Jaedong is easier because he only has to practice one matchup, not two (like here, or like the other people in group E have to do). also, since he qualified for OSL Ro16 and no proleague this week, he can surely just focus on the MSL with no real pressure. i think it's really really good for him that he qualified tonight.

While that's true he only needs to practice one matchup, I really have to disagree. There isn't much that is harder than getting out of a group with the 3 best TvZ players today.

I think it's harder for Flash, FBH, or Hwasin than it is for Jaedong. It would also be harder for JD if the best PvZ player currently was also in the group, or if Leta was in it. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's not as hard as people are making it out to be.


And dont forget the imba map of destination >70% TvZ and worse so it was a long time since a Z manage to win on this map. JD fighting a upphill battle. Why they have a such imba map? Is not Fair really.
Hello mother hello father
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 23 2009 14:26 GMT
#509
KTF fans would need to pray Flash gets 2nd in group F

Plz Flash get 2nd so you meet Lux at RO8 instead >.>
dats racist
Carkling
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany169 Posts
January 23 2009 14:37 GMT
#510
jaedooooooooong <3
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 23 2009 15:19 GMT
#511
SO SURPRISED HERE THIS IS A REALLY HUGE UPSET
RIP Aaliyah
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
January 23 2009 16:33 GMT
#512
Fantastic play by Jaedong as ever, great that he made it through.

Game 2 though... Jaedong really needs to cut that over aggression out, it costs him so many games.
As Day(9) said all you do versus mech is take the entire map and deny expansions.... don't try shitty drops. JD doesn't seem to have a patience mode.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1866 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 16:41:06
January 23 2009 16:34 GMT
#513
On January 23 2009 22:11 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 21:44 sixghost wrote:
On January 23 2009 20:55 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 23 2009 20:54 EvoChamber wrote:
On January 23 2009 20:44 Plexa wrote:
On January 23 2009 20:42 Itachii wrote:
I was really scared after 2nd game, JD's decision were so bad~~ but after all, my love wins.
Ya... Jaedong doesn't look like he could win the OSL just yet... His mid-late decision have been faulty across the board lately (with so many early game/early mid game wins how can you blame him ). Although im sure he'll rise to the occasion and out perform all our expectations


Jaedong's weakness is his impatience to win. Sometimes he just hands Terran mech players wins because he doesn't like waiting 15 minutes to mass up muta/hydra/ling.

Needless to say, I'm kinda worried about his MSL group of death.

the MSL group E for Jaedong is easier because he only has to practice one matchup, not two (like here, or like the other people in group E have to do). also, since he qualified for OSL Ro16 and no proleague this week, he can surely just focus on the MSL with no real pressure. i think it's really really good for him that he qualified tonight.


While that's true he only needs to practice one matchup, I really have to disagree. There isn't much that is harder than getting out of a group with the 3 best TvZ players today.

I think it's harder for Flash, FBH, or Hwasin than it is for Jaedong. It would also be harder for JD if the best PvZ player currently was also in the group, or if Leta was in it. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's not as hard as people are making it out to be.


Its hard for them in the general sense that they have to practice two matchups - but the simple fact that Desination is the Game 2 means he is going to have a tougher time than all of them, because I cant see any of those players dropping a TvZ on Destination - meaning if Jaedong doesnt win his first game against Hwasin (on a mech-viable map) he will be fucked.
Writerman what
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 23 2009 16:58 GMT
#514
DESTINATION IS NOT T>Z
NEITHER IS MEDUSA
god damn

idiots letting vultures run by every other game skew the stats to hell and back.
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 17:13:08
January 23 2009 17:07 GMT
#515
On January 23 2009 23:26 MrHoon wrote:
KTF fans would need to pray Flash gets 2nd in group F

Plz Flash get 2nd so you meet Lux at RO8 instead >.>


Doesn't he meet Leta if he gets second in group F because leta is first in G group ?
LightRailCoyote
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States982 Posts
January 23 2009 17:32 GMT
#516
Ohhhhhh thank god...I went to sleep before and i was like "If JD loses this I'm going to have a terrible day."

Hope the games were good, though.
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JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 17:36:40
January 23 2009 17:35 GMT
#517
Where can we see a bracket witht he future match-ups now that Ro36 is complete? (it's only lacking the wildcard now).

Edit: And it is good to know that Jaedong is still ripping faces. Hope this group's and Julyzerg's group's matches get english commentaries soon.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
Person514cs
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1004 Posts
January 23 2009 17:49 GMT
#518
Dark swarm + lurkers is invincible vs all range attack from mech once is in place...
The hard part is to put swarm lurkers in place. Tanks does zero damage to borrowed units under swarm.. That's a huge factor. This great restrict the movement of Terran. just 4 lurkers at some key spot could be the key to wining.
Peace and love, for ever.
falls
Profile Joined November 2008
United States168 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 18:04:42
January 23 2009 18:03 GMT
#519
I agree that once its in place and in range, dark swarm and lurker is very powerful, however, getting into position is hard, or even impossible against mech. Your lurkers still have to move into range and during that time period, even under swarm, your lurkers will melt under the fire of a few tanks.

Even if you position lurkers in key spots, tanks could just siege up and take them out, wait until the swarm ends and then kill, or just avoid it all together, wait, and mass even more units. As Day9 said, late game mech is imba .
Go SaviOr and Stork!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 23 2009 18:07 GMT
#520
On January 24 2009 02:49 Person514cs wrote:
Dark swarm + lurkers is invincible vs all range attack from mech once is in place...
The hard part is to put swarm lurkers in place. Tanks does zero damage to borrowed units under swarm.. That's a huge factor. This great restrict the movement of Terran. just 4 lurkers at some key spot could be the key to wining.

There's a few problems. First of all, like 12 lurkers get reduced to roughly 1 by the time it gets under a dark swarm that's able to hit the terran mech ball through all the tanks and the mines, and the defiler will get killed by tanks after the 1 swarm 99% of the time. One Lurker doesn't really do anything against the mech army, and the T should have like 3-4 bases already when the Zerg gets defilers, so they really aren't in a huge hurry to move out. They should also have a couple of science vessels so they can just irradiate the annoying Lurkers. Then, since you've spent so much of your money on units that die before they can get close, the gigantic push by T will most likely kill you. 15 tanks aren't going to care about 2 lurkers under a swarm.
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