EPTOn January 23 2009 20:33 EvoChamber wrote:
Atrioc, are you done with the dancing jaedong pic?
Atrioc, are you done with the dancing jaedong pic?
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ty Atrioc!
[OSL] Ro36 - Group L - Page 25
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
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Ota Solgryn
Denmark2011 Posts
On January 23 2009 20:34 gngfn wrote: They're usually up pretty fast at http://ongamenet.com/indi/programVideoList.do?cmd=videoList&battleComId=1104. Thx  but I cant read korean, so anyone can link directly to the games? If their are up? | ||
Atrioc
United States1865 Posts
haha thank you i was racking my hard drive trying to find it so i could post clearly it was well deserved tonight | ||
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EvoChamber
France2505 Posts
On January 23 2009 20:37 Ota Solgryn wrote: Thx but I cant read korean, so anyone can link directly to the games? If their are up? Wfbrood.com usually has them up the fastest outside of the official korean sites. | ||
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
On January 23 2009 20:37 Ota Solgryn wrote: Thx but I cant read korean, so anyone can link directly to the games? If their are up? They're not up yet, but you don't need to be able to read Korean--just look for the letter L in the title and watch them bottom to top. After the L is the round (round 1 was JD vs Tazza, 2 was JD vs Light) and after that number is the set of that round. | ||
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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Ota Solgryn
Denmark2011 Posts
On January 23 2009 20:39 gngfn wrote: They're not up yet, but you don't need to be able to read Korean--just look for the letter L in the title and watch them bottom to top. After the L is the round (round 1 was JD vs Tazza, 2 was JD vs Light) and after that number is the set of that round. Ok. Thanks. I'll guess I could also try to play a little with babelfish. | ||
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EvoChamber
France2505 Posts
JD vs Tazza game 1 | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 23 2009 20:42 Itachii wrote: Ya... Jaedong doesn't look like he could win the OSL just yet... His mid-late decision have been faulty across the board lately (with so many early game/early mid game wins how can you blame him I was really scared after 2nd game, JD's decision were so bad~~ but after all, my love wins.  ). Although im sure he'll rise to the occasion and out perform all our expectations | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36390 Posts
On January 23 2009 20:33 Plexa wrote: at that stage its pretty difficult to tell them apart you can tell by gas timing sometimes. if not, you could always wait 30 seconds after lair starts, if no den is up then its surely 2 hatch spire. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27158 Posts
Pop has a nice website called progamizer which changes hangul into the players ID's, and various other SC related words. http://rpgamers.free.fr/progamizer/ | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36390 Posts
i mean, the T can make so many mistakes the entire game, like failing to do damage with the vultures, losing valks to scourges, doing nothing with harass, and the zerg makes one error midgame (the drop by jaedong) and he gets absolutely rolled. once you get 100+ supply of 2/1 mech or higher its really hard to fuck up. light even engaged unsieged for 10 seconds before sieging while fighting a group of hydras and still came out way on top. to those saying plague and swarm are the answer... they really aren't. you rarely ever get a cost effective plague off against mech given how many units you have to sacrifice to get your defiler in position and the cost-effectiveness of the attention spent on the micro, and with spread mines and tanks its hard to use swarm and lurkers too (if you watch calm vs mind, so many of calms lurkers died to splash while running between or already under swarm. | ||
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EvoChamber
France2505 Posts
On January 23 2009 20:44 Plexa wrote: Ya... Jaedong doesn't look like he could win the OSL just yet... His mid-late decision have been faulty across the board lately (with so many early game/early mid game wins how can you blame him ). Although im sure he'll rise to the occasion and out perform all our expectationsJaedong's weakness is his impatience to win. Sometimes he just hands Terran mech players wins because he doesn't like waiting 15 minutes to mass up muta/hydra/ling. Needless to say, I'm kinda worried about his MSL group of death. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36390 Posts
On January 23 2009 20:54 EvoChamber wrote: Jaedong's weakness is his impatience to win. Sometimes he just hands Terran mech players wins because he doesn't like waiting 15 minutes to mass up muta/hydra/ling. Needless to say, I'm kinda worried about his MSL group of death. the MSL group E for Jaedong is easier because he only has to practice one matchup, not two (like here, or like the other people in group E have to do). also, since he qualified for OSL Ro16 and no proleague this week, he can surely just focus on the MSL with no real pressure. i think it's really really good for him that he qualified tonight. | ||
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Magic84
Russian Federation1381 Posts
On January 23 2009 20:49 Hot_Bid wrote: the more games that happen like game 2 and game 3 the more likely all TvZs will eventually go the mech way i mean, the T can make so many mistakes the entire game, like failing to do damage with the vultures, losing valks to scourges, doing nothing with harass, and the zerg makes one error midgame (the drop by jaedong) and he gets absolutely rolled. once you get 100+ supply of 2/1 mech or higher its really hard to fuck up. light even engaged unsieged for 10 seconds before sieging while fighting a group of hydras and still came out way on top. to those saying plague and swarm are the answer... they really aren't. you rarely ever get a cost effective plague off against mech given how many units you have to sacrifice to get your defiler in position and the cost-effectiveness of the attention spent on the micro, and with spread mines and tanks its hard to use swarm and lurkers too (if you watch calm vs mind, so many of calms lurkers died to splash while running between or already under swarm. Exactly, T can make mistakes and recover, Z can't. And i don't think anyone is gonna use mnm vs JD anymore. | ||
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EvoChamber
France2505 Posts
On January 23 2009 20:49 Hot_Bid wrote: the more games that happen like game 2 and game 3 the more likely all TvZs will eventually go the mech way i mean, the T can make so many mistakes the entire game, like failing to do damage with the vultures, losing valks to scourges, doing nothing with harass, and the zerg makes one error midgame (the drop by jaedong) and he gets absolutely rolled. once you get 100+ supply of 2/1 mech or higher its really hard to fuck up. light even engaged unsieged for 10 seconds before sieging while fighting a group of hydras and still came out way on top. to those saying plague and swarm are the answer... they really aren't. you rarely ever get a cost effective plague off against mech given how many units you have to sacrifice to get your defiler in position and the cost-effectiveness of the attention spent on the micro, and with spread mines and tanks its hard to use swarm and lurkers too (if you watch calm vs mind, so many of calms lurkers died to splash while running between or already under swarm. It's not like bioTvZ is much more forgiving of mistakes though. Jaedong lost that tank hydra battle because he wasted like 30 hydras on the wallbreak and the drop. I agree defilers aren't an answer offensively, but lurker/swarm can slow down a mech army indefinitely given the relative lack of vessels in a mech build. | ||
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Eternity
France69 Posts
1. His first attack up front with mutas + hydras where he tried to snipe tanks with mutas for fast win but a second tank saves the day and he looses most of his mutas and a big chunk of hydras. Had he got that second tank with mutas he could have done quite a bit of damage. But it was a risky move (obviously as it backfired ...) 2. His failed drop. Looses everything, no damage. I think timing wise before his first mistake was the time where JD should have powered drones and taken the map. Then all out macro war. And like Day said in his audio, hive play not really necessary more like mass mutas / hydra / ling. Didnt see lings from JD mid game. And even though he was upgrading mutas with two spires didnt see many either (or too late ...) | ||
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