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Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
January 23 2009 11:35 GMT
#481
On January 23 2009 20:33 EvoChamber wrote:
Atrioc, are you done with the dancing jaedong pic?

[image loading]
ty Atrioc!
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
January 23 2009 11:36 GMT
#482
games 1 and 2 of light vs jd were pretty great. game 1 was especially exciting. the 3rd game was disappointing
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 11:38:20
January 23 2009 11:37 GMT
#483
On January 23 2009 20:34 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 20:33 Ota Solgryn wrote:
GOGO vods up somewhere? Cant wait to watch theese games! Sounds fucking amazing.

They're usually up pretty fast at http://ongamenet.com/indi/programVideoList.do?cmd=videoList&battleComId=1104.


Thx
but I cant read korean, so anyone can link directly to the games? If their are up?
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1866 Posts
January 23 2009 11:39 GMT
#484
On January 23 2009 20:35 Jaeden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 20:33 EvoChamber wrote:
Atrioc, are you done with the dancing jaedong pic?

[image loading]
ty Atrioc!



haha thank you
i was racking my hard drive trying to find it so i could post

clearly it was well deserved tonight
Writerman what
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
January 23 2009 11:39 GMT
#485
On January 23 2009 20:37 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 20:34 gngfn wrote:
On January 23 2009 20:33 Ota Solgryn wrote:
GOGO vods up somewhere? Cant wait to watch theese games! Sounds fucking amazing.

They're usually up pretty fast at http://ongamenet.com/indi/programVideoList.do?cmd=videoList&battleComId=1104.


Thx
but I cant read korean, so anyone can link directly to the games? If their are up?


Wfbrood.com usually has them up the fastest outside of the official korean sites.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
January 23 2009 11:39 GMT
#486
On January 23 2009 20:37 Ota Solgryn wrote:

Thx
but I cant read korean, so anyone can link directly to the games? If their are up?

They're not up yet, but you don't need to be able to read Korean--just look for the letter L in the title and watch them bottom to top. After the L is the round (round 1 was JD vs Tazza, 2 was JD vs Light) and after that number is the set of that round.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
January 23 2009 11:42 GMT
#487
I was really scared after 2nd game, JD's decision were so bad~~ but after all, my love wins.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
January 23 2009 11:43 GMT
#488
On January 23 2009 20:39 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 20:37 Ota Solgryn wrote:

Thx
but I cant read korean, so anyone can link directly to the games? If their are up?

They're not up yet, but you don't need to be able to read Korean--just look for the letter L in the title and watch them bottom to top. After the L is the round (round 1 was JD vs Tazza, 2 was JD vs Light) and after that number is the set of that round.


Ok. Thanks. I'll guess I could also try to play a little with babelfish.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
January 23 2009 11:44 GMT
#489
http://www.wfbrood.com/movie/osl2009/movie_35772.html

JD vs Tazza game 1
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 23 2009 11:44 GMT
#490
On January 23 2009 20:42 Itachii wrote:
I was really scared after 2nd game, JD's decision were so bad~~ but after all, my love wins.
Ya... Jaedong doesn't look like he could win the OSL just yet... His mid-late decision have been faulty across the board lately (with so many early game/early mid game wins how can you blame him ). Although im sure he'll rise to the occasion and out perform all our expectations
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 11:46:41
January 23 2009 11:45 GMT
#491
On January 23 2009 20:33 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 20:32 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 23 2009 20:19 Plexa wrote:
2hatch lair AGAIN from Jaedong... I dont like this build jaedong... you're killing zvt with it!!

gas up for Light, acad buildilng, CC just about done

2 hatch lurker into 3 gas management is far different from 2 hatch muta allin, its not the build you think he "killed zvt" with
at that stage its pretty difficult to tell them apart

you can tell by gas timing sometimes. if not, you could always wait 30 seconds after lair starts, if no den is up then its surely 2 hatch spire.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 11:45:44
January 23 2009 11:45 GMT
#492
@ Ota Solgryn

Pop has a nice website called progamizer which changes hangul into the players ID's, and various other SC related words.

http://rpgamers.free.fr/progamizer/
ModeratorGodfather
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 11:54:10
January 23 2009 11:49 GMT
#493
the more games that happen like game 2 and game 3 the more likely all TvZs will eventually go the mech way

i mean, the T can make so many mistakes the entire game, like failing to do damage with the vultures, losing valks to scourges, doing nothing with harass, and the zerg makes one error midgame (the drop by jaedong) and he gets absolutely rolled. once you get 100+ supply of 2/1 mech or higher its really hard to fuck up. light even engaged unsieged for 10 seconds before sieging while fighting a group of hydras and still came out way on top.

to those saying plague and swarm are the answer... they really aren't. you rarely ever get a cost effective plague off against mech given how many units you have to sacrifice to get your defiler in position and the cost-effectiveness of the attention spent on the micro, and with spread mines and tanks its hard to use swarm and lurkers too (if you watch calm vs mind, so many of calms lurkers died to splash while running between or already under swarm.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
January 23 2009 11:54 GMT
#494
On January 23 2009 20:44 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 20:42 Itachii wrote:
I was really scared after 2nd game, JD's decision were so bad~~ but after all, my love wins.
Ya... Jaedong doesn't look like he could win the OSL just yet... His mid-late decision have been faulty across the board lately (with so many early game/early mid game wins how can you blame him ). Although im sure he'll rise to the occasion and out perform all our expectations


Jaedong's weakness is his impatience to win. Sometimes he just hands Terran mech players wins because he doesn't like waiting 15 minutes to mass up muta/hydra/ling.

Needless to say, I'm kinda worried about his MSL group of death.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
January 23 2009 11:55 GMT
#495
On January 23 2009 20:54 EvoChamber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 20:44 Plexa wrote:
On January 23 2009 20:42 Itachii wrote:
I was really scared after 2nd game, JD's decision were so bad~~ but after all, my love wins.
Ya... Jaedong doesn't look like he could win the OSL just yet... His mid-late decision have been faulty across the board lately (with so many early game/early mid game wins how can you blame him ). Although im sure he'll rise to the occasion and out perform all our expectations


Jaedong's weakness is his impatience to win. Sometimes he just hands Terran mech players wins because he doesn't like waiting 15 minutes to mass up muta/hydra/ling.

Needless to say, I'm kinda worried about his MSL group of death.

the MSL group E for Jaedong is easier because he only has to practice one matchup, not two (like here, or like the other people in group E have to do). also, since he qualified for OSL Ro16 and no proleague this week, he can surely just focus on the MSL with no real pressure. i think it's really really good for him that he qualified tonight.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
January 23 2009 11:58 GMT
#496
On January 23 2009 20:49 Hot_Bid wrote:
the more games that happen like game 2 and game 3 the more likely all TvZs will eventually go the mech way

i mean, the T can make so many mistakes the entire game, like failing to do damage with the vultures, losing valks to scourges, doing nothing with harass, and the zerg makes one error midgame (the drop by jaedong) and he gets absolutely rolled. once you get 100+ supply of 2/1 mech or higher its really hard to fuck up. light even engaged unsieged for 10 seconds before sieging while fighting a group of hydras and still came out way on top.

to those saying plague and swarm are the answer... they really aren't. you rarely ever get a cost effective plague off against mech given how many units you have to sacrifice to get your defiler in position and the cost-effectiveness of the attention spent on the micro, and with spread mines and tanks its hard to use swarm and lurkers too (if you watch calm vs mind, so many of calms lurkers died to splash while running between or already under swarm.

Exactly, T can make mistakes and recover, Z can't. And i don't think anyone is gonna use mnm vs JD anymore.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
January 23 2009 11:59 GMT
#497
On January 23 2009 20:49 Hot_Bid wrote:
the more games that happen like game 2 and game 3 the more likely all TvZs will eventually go the mech way

i mean, the T can make so many mistakes the entire game, like failing to do damage with the vultures, losing valks to scourges, doing nothing with harass, and the zerg makes one error midgame (the drop by jaedong) and he gets absolutely rolled. once you get 100+ supply of 2/1 mech or higher its really hard to fuck up. light even engaged unsieged for 10 seconds before sieging while fighting a group of hydras and still came out way on top.

to those saying plague and swarm are the answer... they really aren't. you rarely ever get a cost effective plague off against mech given how many units you have to sacrifice to get your defiler in position and the cost-effectiveness of the attention spent on the micro, and with spread mines and tanks its hard to use swarm and lurkers too (if you watch calm vs mind, so many of calms lurkers died to splash while running between or already under swarm.


It's not like bioTvZ is much more forgiving of mistakes though. Jaedong lost that tank hydra battle because he wasted like 30 hydras on the wallbreak and the drop. I agree defilers aren't an answer offensively, but lurker/swarm can slow down a mech army indefinitely given the relative lack of vessels in a mech build.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Eternity
Profile Joined October 2002
France69 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 12:05:23
January 23 2009 12:02 GMT
#498
I think Jaedong did two mistakes mid game :
1. His first attack up front with mutas + hydras where he tried to snipe tanks with mutas for fast win but a second tank saves the day and he looses most of his mutas and a big chunk of hydras.
Had he got that second tank with mutas he could have done quite a bit of damage. But it was a risky move (obviously as it backfired ...)

2. His failed drop. Looses everything, no damage.

I think timing wise before his first mistake was the time where JD should have powered drones and taken the map. Then all out macro war. And like Day said in his audio, hive play not really necessary more like mass mutas / hydra / ling.
Didnt see lings from JD mid game. And even though he was upgrading mutas with two spires didnt see many either (or too late ...)
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
January 23 2009 12:07 GMT
#499
Thanks for the LR's and the adrenaline!
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 23 2009 12:43 GMT
#500
overlord arcade using ultralisks is the answer imo
dats racist
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