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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
January 04 2009 09:36 GMT
#181
On January 04 2009 18:34 BanZu wrote:
Can anyone tell me why BeSt lost? I didn't see everything


The only thing that could beat Best's Macro is a graded push 200/200 and hope that Best threw away units too carelessly. That's what happened - Best traded armies and his macro was slightly off, and the second army didn't come as quickly (probably because of the fifth) and Skyhigh was able to shut down expos and take the game.

The opening builds were also a good choice on Skyhigh's part.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
January 04 2009 09:36 GMT
#182
Tasteless also noted the lack of Observers - the downside of Pusan dark-style.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
January 04 2009 09:37 GMT
#183
Skyhigh played no Sci Vessels no upgrades (well, very late upgrades) and it looks like he found something that works well against traditional play on Medusa.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 04 2009 09:37 GMT
#184
On January 04 2009 18:34 BanZu wrote:
Can anyone tell me why BeSt lost? I didn't see everything


the main 2 big battles were in SkyHighs favor. After the second main battle skyhigh managed to sneak his tanks towards one of best expansion, i dont think best was aware of this coz he didnt have an observer there. Best lost his nexus and at the same time lost all his probes transfering to another nexus. Thats why he lost.

Both players macroed equally good.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
January 04 2009 09:37 GMT
#185
On January 04 2009 18:35 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2009 18:34 BanZu wrote:
Can anyone tell me why BeSt lost? I didn't see everything


he ran too much into mines. He lacked observers and didn't use well those few that he had.


he also didn't micro his arbiters enough, and then built too many gates, so he couldn't use all of them. I think he ran out of gas becuase of how his tech ended up working out.

Also, his early game push with goons+reaver didn't work out, and then best just didn't look like he knew how to play the map.

so: more micro, less tech, better timing. Skyhigh also played like a relative beast, and happened to look like he was everywhere.
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QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
January 04 2009 09:37 GMT
#186
From what I've seen in his TvPs so far, Skyhigh is insane with his vulture production. He 'lost' that huge battle but had enough vultures macroed to not only save those tanks, but to put pressure on Best's new expo.
Oh, my eSports
Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-04 09:38:52
January 04 2009 09:37 GMT
#187
On January 04 2009 18:34 BanZu wrote:
Can anyone tell me why BeSt lost? I didn't see everything


Skyhigh double expanded very quickly, and best had a reaver harass that didn't do nearly as much damage as it could have. Late game skyhigh was always well seiged and never had his tanks sniped out first and BeSt stepped on a lot of mines while shifting his army around.

I don't agree with the poor arbiter micro, he only let one die once he was already doomed and had some good stasis.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
January 04 2009 09:37 GMT
#188
hey thunk, is generalnukeem awake?
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Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
January 04 2009 09:37 GMT
#189
Is it just me or should tasteless just stop always trying to predict whats gonna happend all the time. i know he knows sc and he is awesome, it just makes him seem less good when he has to correct himself all the time when things go wrong, which is pretty often nowdays.
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
January 04 2009 09:37 GMT
#190
That was really impressive... Skyhigh just reinforced after the big battle and went all the way to the exp whiteout getting spotted by obs or being intercepted.. The nexus was dying before he reacted witch was devastating..

As tasteless is saying he had way to little obs... Then a big bunch of probes was caught by vults so that was it
eth0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada208 Posts
January 04 2009 09:38 GMT
#191
He'll be feeling SkyHigh if he can beat one of the BeSt.
Because he is Mantoss, the incarnation of masculinity and awesomeness.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
January 04 2009 09:38 GMT
#192
alright, next game up- skyhigh at top right, best at bottom left
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
January 04 2009 09:38 GMT
#193
I actually think Best could have won that first push if he just dropped his drop force onto the Tanks. He would have broken the wall no problem - there wasn't even turrets either.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
January 04 2009 09:38 GMT
#194
Skyhigh top right Best Bottom left. No proxy for either so far.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
January 04 2009 09:38 GMT
#195
On January 04 2009 18:35 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2009 18:34 BanZu wrote:
Can anyone tell me why BeSt lost? I didn't see everything


he ran too much into mines. He lacked observers and didn't use well those few that he had.


Basically what happens when you push for quick arbiters off of 2 gas.

I'm surprised terran hasn't exploited this fact more often when protosses go for quick arbiter tech. Arbiters cost so much gas they can't use it for anything else.

Skyhigh with AWESOME play there, massing vultures in response to the arbiter tech.
Meh
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
January 04 2009 09:38 GMT
#196
Skyhigh 11%
Best 89%


Hahahaha
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
January 04 2009 09:39 GMT
#197
On January 04 2009 18:38 thunk wrote:
I actually think Best could have won that first push if he just dropped his drop force onto the Tanks. He would have broken the wall no problem - there wasn't even turrets either.


skyhigh called the goon count, and was just prepared for the build. he had good tank placement at the front, and he also refused to take his 4 tanks away from the front, and somehow best didn't do enough damage.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
January 04 2009 09:39 GMT
#198
skyhigh had shitfucking godly macro last game, its like wtf?
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
January 04 2009 09:39 GMT
#199
On January 04 2009 18:37 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
hey thunk, is generalnukeem awake?


Yea, he is but he intends to go to bed soon so you guys don't crash on the way down.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
January 04 2009 09:39 GMT
#200
On January 04 2009 18:38 village_idiot wrote:
Skyhigh 11%
Best 89%


Hahahaha


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