EPT[PL] CJ vs KHAN - Page 2
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mog87
United States1586 Posts
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iPF[Div]
Spain572 Posts
On November 03 2008 08:13 ShmotZ wrote: lol i see CJ 3:0 khan but please god, let it end with a savior vs fbh ace! ya srsly, this is going to be utter rape, i think much is the only one that might drop a game because he's been slumping l8ly. 3-0 or 3-1, no way this is going to ace, but would love to see savior crush fbh for ace  | ||
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TaDa1.
655 Posts
jangbi sAvi iris or effort ace | ||
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DJ~Cassie~
United States14 Posts
Much Savior FBH | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
Btw, Stork is unavailable because of WCG correct? Not that I think it matters much, as I see Jangbi in ace match given CJ's roster. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On November 03 2008 10:52 Orome wrote: WCG starts Nov. 5th, 2 days from now. That said I'm pretty sure all the Korean WCG participants will go together and since Jaedong's playing, Stork's probably still there too. Thanks. That's crazy just how little they prepare for WCG. So I guess Stork is just taking a break then.  Well, here's hoping Khan can hold on until Stork can play again. But at least we get to see how their young players do. | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
On November 03 2008 08:39 mog87 wrote: TT vs Savior a toss up? lol..come on man seriously. Im not even a savior fan but really thats a game savior should win. We're not talking about Bonjwa Savior here...we're talking about 2008 Savior. 3-1 in the PL and suddenly he's a favorite? I'm not so sure. I agree it's a game Savior should win, but what I'm saying is that discounting TT is a mistake. We can only judge this guy based on the reviews of his teammates and his 2v2 play, but both criteria make him look good. On the grounds that we really have no solid basis for judging either player in this matchup, I stand by my assertion that it's a tossup. | ||
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Yaqoob
Canada3346 Posts
 EffOrt > by.greatI don't think this one needs much discussion. EffOrt has been amazing by.great lately and his micro has really show through in ZvZ  Much < JangBiI agree with some of the people above that Jangbi is playing amazing now and just came off his 3-0 win against yellow[arnc]. This game is a toss-up but I do think Jangbi will win this game pretty easily sAviOr > TTI don't think this game will even be close. As long as Savior plays half decent and doesn't lose to proxies and proxies gateways + cannons and anything like that, then he is just going to roll over TT pretty easily. TT is really only known for cheesing. Almost any long game that I've seen of him hes just loses in the end  Iris < firebatheroI know Iris is 3-0 FBH but FBH is 10-3 TvT in his last 13 [including GOM] and his TvT is well known to be pretty high level Ace Match Much vs Stork / JangBi / firebatheroI do think Much will get sent out or possible savior if it goes to ace match. If Khan sends out Stork then Much will get raped and possible the same if they send out Jangbi. I would love a FBH versus Much match and I think FBH will rape him. Hes probably been practicing TvP so much since he plays Bisu in the MSL in 4-5 days. | ||
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Choros
Australia530 Posts
sAviOr's ZvP for a while this should be interesting, even more so considering he is up against free in gom who has been good PvZ lately (including beating sAviOr and Jaedong 2-1 recently. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On November 03 2008 13:35 Choros wrote: Haven't seen sAviOr's ZvP for a while this should be interesting, even more so considering he is up against free in gom who has been good PvZ lately (including beating sAviOr and Jaedong 2-1 recently.Jaedong-Free potential rematch?! O.o | ||
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Little-Chimp
Canada948 Posts
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
Much] < JangBi sAviOr > TT Iris < firebathero Ace: No idea, Khan will probably take it. Reasoning, match one; By.great showed great [ha] play against Savior, however effort was far more impressive when he dismantled Hwasin. Considering Savior beat by.great 2-0, effort being on the same team as him, and efforts momentum- I think he will take it slightly. Reasoning, match two; Jangbi is on fire. He is one of the best players in the world. Enough said. Reasoning, match three; TT squandered his advantage against free. He looked alright up until that point. Perhaps it was nerves, perhaps he doesn't have killer game sense, perhaps its just hard to transition back to 1v1. Whatever it is, he has done nothing that shows me he will do anything but be embarrassed when Savior runs over him. Reasoning, match four; Iris use to be great tvt. Use to be. His results since DAUM have been less than inspiring. That is not to say he hasn't shown strong play, or that his tvt isnt returning to form, but its to say that I don't think Iris can be accurately described as a tvt monster like he once was. Personal stats or not, FBH is just plain better at the moment. Sorry Iris Reasoning, ace; Khan can send out Jangbi to take down Iris, Effort, Savior, Much, or just about any player on CJ. Stork can be sent out to snipe just about anyone as well, with perhaps some qualms over his ability to defeat a Zerg. Firebathero can beat Effort/savior/Iris. Much is his only viable threat. I mean, in general, Khan ace can sweep any CJ ace they bring out. CJ if they are in this position will have to choose their ace very wisely. Hopefully they beat Khan- because Khan is pretty lame. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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LosingID8
CA10829 Posts
On November 03 2008 12:44 jwd241224 wrote: We're not talking about Bonjwa Savior here...we're talking about 2008 Savior. 3-1 in the PL and suddenly he's a favorite? I'm not so sure. I agree it's a game Savior should win, but what I'm saying is that discounting TT is a mistake. We can only judge this guy based on the reviews of his teammates and his 2v2 play, but both criteria make him look good. On the grounds that we really have no solid basis for judging either player in this matchup, I stand by my assertion that it's a tossup. but we have seen TT play 1v1 before, and he isn't very good (back during gomtv msl) | ||
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SayTT
Sweden2158 Posts
My predictions: (Z) EffOrt > (Z)by.great (hard to call)(P) Much < (P)JangBi(Z) sAviOr > (P)TT(T) Iris < (T)firebatheroACE: (Z) sAviOr > (T)firebathero (THE DESTROYER½!) | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On November 03 2008 15:15 LosingID8 wrote: but we have seen TT play 1v1 before, and he isn't very good (back during gomtv msl) GOMTV MSL season 2? That was about a year and a half ago! So much has changed since then, both specific to TT (transitioning to a successful 2v2 player and then back again, becoming captain of KHAN) and general to the SC scene that it's really hard to use those games as evidence. Even "game sense" and basic 1v1 skills can totally change over more than a year - look at FBH's TvP, he hung around 35% winrate for over 100 professional games spanning two years, and appears to have totally turned around his play in that MU in a matter of months (more like weeks). Anything can happen, especially in the KHAN house. I hate Samsung as much as the next guy, but if they are talking up TT then I'll hop on the bandwagon. | ||
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