|
3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
MBC Game StarLeague Round of 16, Day 1
Matches
Odds and Analysis
+ Show Spoiler + Kal 48%-52%  IrisNobody has really heard from Kal in a long time. However, he is still one of the top tosses. Iris, on the other hand, has been on fire (7-3 last 10). Medusa so far has been rather balanced PvT (statistically, at least). If Iris can keep up the pace at which he has been playing, he should take take this set. free[gm] 37%-63%  Jaedong Zerg has NEVER won on a map with Byzantium as part of its name. free has been doing relatively well recently, but nothing special. Jaedong, however, is 8-2 in his last 10 overall and 9-1 in has last 10 ZvP. If Jaedong didn't have to play 2 matches the day before, he would win this without a problem. But, free now has the advantage in practice time. I expect Jaedong to take this set, but I wouldn't be too surprised if free won. firebathero 49%-51% Tempestfirebathero beat Much and Bisu. Tempest managed to sneak by.fantasy and RuBy. I would give firebathero the advantage here because he has probably been practicing nothing but TvP for the last month. Hwasin 43%-57% BisuHwasin has not played a TvP since early July. He has not won a TvP since May. He is 3-8 against Bisu. The only thing in Bisu's way to the quarterfinal is the map itself, not Hwasin. I expect Bisu to take this set.
RESULTS
How to watch?
*Zatic's sidebar linking
*Daum Sports (Guide by GTR-2-Go is here, but you can just click the link)
* Daum Player
*Gom Player
*Yaoyuan
*For the latter three, refer to the Ultimate Guide
|
I went with
Kal > Iris
Free < Jaedong
FBH < Tempest
Hwasin < Bisu
this doesn't start for like 7 more hours, right?
|
Kal, Free, Firebathero, Bisu. Why not?
|
United States13896 Posts
Dude, the odds and stuff you do for these are awesome, just want to say keep up the good work!
|
CA10825 Posts
you give fbh the advantage but have him at 49%?
|
Free < Jaedong
FBH < Tempest
Hwasin < Bisu
|
Bisu beating Hwasin in a close and good game, please. FBH vs Tempest should also be interesting.
|
On October 16 2008 12:25 LosingID8 wrote:
you give fbh the advantage but have him at 49%? I recall seeing 3 Lions post that the percentages is not a rating he gives, but a sum of a number of stats such as last 10, last 10 in matchup, overall matchup percentage and a couple others. It's entirely possible that FBH's past atrocious TvP has skewed the stats to have him lower than Tempest.
|
United States12607 Posts
Kal > Iris (has everyone forgotten that Kal gave fOrGG his hardest series last MSL? His TvP is still godly)
Jaedong > free (JD vs. Protoss = win, I don't care what map it's on)
FBH > Tempest (if FBH can take down Much and Bisu, he can deal with Tempest's shenanigans)
Bisu > Hwasin (Bisu always > Hwasin)
|
CA10825 Posts
i'm waiting for the red sniper to just completely explode and play out of his mind vs bisu. you know he's motivated for sure.
i think bisu is going to be in trouble.
|
|
|
Jaedong and Bisu will pull through. The other two matches I'm a bit uncertain. I'm opting for Kal only because I like his playstyle more than Iris but Iris is no slouch. FBH vs. Tempest...well, FBH won against Bisu and Much but lost against Free. I wanna say FBH but Tempest seems like a more stable choice.
|
Remember when everyone said that Katrina was going to be a graveyard for zerg because there was no places to flank.
Jaedong 14-2 on Katrina. ><
|
On October 16 2008 10:01 boongee wrote:
I went with
Kal > Iris
Free < Jaedong
FBH < Tempest
Hwasin < Bisu
this doesn't start for like 7 more hours, right?
this is for me as well except for kal > iris.
|
|
|
On October 16 2008 13:14 Raithed wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2008 10:01 boongee wrote:
I went with
Kal > Iris
Free < Jaedong
FBH < Tempest
Hwasin < Bisu
this doesn't start for like 7 more hours, right? this is for me as well except for kal > iris.
you just repeated what he said.
|
I think he meant he thinks Iris>Kal. As in he didn't make a typo, the sentence is just structured oddly.
|
On October 16 2008 13:42 capek wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2008 13:14 Raithed wrote:On October 16 2008 10:01 boongee wrote:
I went with
Kal > Iris
Free < Jaedong
FBH < Tempest
Hwasin < Bisu
this doesn't start for like 7 more hours, right? this is for me as well except for kal > iris. you just repeated what he said.
I think he means he agrees with them all except kal vs iris (meaning he thinks iris > kal)
|
Kal, FBH, Jaedong, HWASIN!!!
|
FBH is takin the entire thing so baiiiiiii
|
United States17042 Posts
On October 16 2008 13:09 xenero wrote:
Remember when everyone said that Katrina was going to be a graveyard for zerg because there was no places to flank.
Jaedong 14-2 on Katrina. ><
This just means that Jaedong is broken. The map might be broken too, but we only know for sure about jaedong.
Blue storm had the same problem- There was an argument (compelling if you looked at all the zvt and zvp games on Blue storm) that jaedong and luxury made the map imbalanced. If you take away jaedong and Luxury on Blue storm, the map comes out looking a lot more even (in zvt and zvp).
|
Iris, Jaedong, FBH, Hwasin
(basically no Ps to win)
|
wow all 4 matches are WTF GG
too bad im going to miss this
be back in the moring to check the scores.
Bisu Fighting!
|
oh wow, good lookin games tonight
|
CA10825 Posts
On October 16 2008 14:31 Ideas wrote:
Iris, Jaedong, FBH, Hwasin
(basically no Ps to win)
same predictions, but not necessarily because i want the P's to lose.
|
United States10774 Posts
Kal, Free, Tempest, Bisu
So I can hurry up and take down Jaedong from #1 Power Rank next month
|
Iris, Jaedong, FBH, and Hwasin, though I only reallly care about Iris.
Go Berserker! CJ Hwaiting!
|
|
|
so sad  really want to watch this live but have class at 8:30 :/
|
Iris, Free, FBH, and Hwasin.
GOGO FREE! Show everyone what the Stars can do.
|
On October 16 2008 15:26 spydernoob wrote:so sad really want to watch this live but have class at 8:30 :/
There are sacrafices you make.....
Sleep is definately one of them.
Dancing jaedong > Well rested canadian.
GG,
see you in the LReport thread!
|
|
|
On October 16 2008 15:42 GinNtoniC wrote (about Bisu):
Don't disappoint today please. I skipped school (a 2 hour lecture of boring psyshocology but still)
to be able to watch today's games live. - Fucking hyped I am, Yoda said..
Above still applies.
- Fucking hyped I am.
|
is awesome32271 Posts
GO BERSERKER~ KILL EM ALL
|
KIM TAEK YONG PRACTICES HARD AND WILL SHOW GOOD SKILL.
|
Iris, JD, FBH, Bisu.
But Free vs JD may well give us surprise
|
|
|
Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Iris, Jaedong, Tempest, Bisu.
Looking forward to seeing JD vs Free though. Free's always been a solid PvZer.
|
Iris
JD
Tempest
Hwasin (I want Bisu to win though )
|
Kal
Jaedong (though my heart wants Free to win)
Fbh
Bisu
|
FBH advancing is all I care about =]
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Looking forward to this one. My picks are Kal, Jaedong, Tempest, Bisu. (Protoss armada to win)
|
I want the Protosses to advance, but voted everywhere against them basically, except Tempest.
|
United States10774 Posts
Free please beat Jaedong
Protoss fighting!
|
Bisu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3
|
No matter how nice you ask him,Free won't beat Jd. Jd will be at least semifinalist,where I hope he will face Bisu.
|
United States10774 Posts
On October 16 2008 16:59 Darth Peter wrote:
No matter how nice you ask him,Free won't beat Jd. Jd will be at least semifinalist,where I hope he will face Bisu.
Possibility is unlimited for a brave Protoss fighter
|
|
|
|
|
Underdog (as it seems)---> Iris
Jaedong
Tempest
Bisu!
|
|
|
Jaedong 
|
|
|
|
|
Can't wait for the game to start. Wondering if I launch yaoyuan now if it might just be able to start in time for Jaedong vs. Free? lol. Just hoping for some decent streams today. But guessing that'd be too much to ask for...
|
|
|
Ten minutes before event-start and GOM is giving me all sorts of trouble. The TL-sidebar isn't providing me with any info today and yaoyuan is a mess.
I skipped everything I had scheduled today to watch these games, not finding a stream would be a disaster. Can anyone provide me with some last-minute help?
Thanks in advance.
|
On October 16 2008 16:52 OneOther wrote:
Free please beat Jaedong
Protoss fighting!
YEAH! What he said!!!
|
On October 16 2008 18:27 GinNtoniC wrote:
Ten minutes before event-start and GOM is giving me all sorts of trouble. The TL-sidebar isn't providing me with any info today and yaoyuan is a mess.
I skipped everything I had scheduled today to watch these games, not finding a stream would be a disaster. Can anyone provide me with some last-minute help?
Thanks in advance.
tried the daum sports thing?
|
Maybe someone will post the link to the small daum.
|
|
|
Sidebar stream is up, let's do this!
|
|
|
|
|
CA10825 Posts
zatic's sidebar stream is amazing. you don't need that sportslive link with this
|
On October 16 2008 18:29 Jonteman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2008 18:27 GinNtoniC wrote:
Ten minutes before event-start and GOM is giving me all sorts of trouble. The TL-sidebar isn't providing me with any info today and yaoyuan is a mess.
I skipped everything I had scheduled today to watch these games, not finding a stream would be a disaster. Can anyone provide me with some last-minute help?
Thanks in advance. tried the daum sports thing?
Could do that, it lagged terribly last time, but I'll try it.
hang on
|
CA10825 Posts
On October 16 2008 18:33 GinNtoniC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2008 18:29 Jonteman wrote:On October 16 2008 18:27 GinNtoniC wrote:
Ten minutes before event-start and GOM is giving me all sorts of trouble. The TL-sidebar isn't providing me with any info today and yaoyuan is a mess.
I skipped everything I had scheduled today to watch these games, not finding a stream would be a disaster. Can anyone provide me with some last-minute help?
Thanks in advance. tried the daum sports thing? Could do that, it lagged terribly last time, but I'll try it. hang on
TL sidebar doesn't show up until about 5 min before the event starts. it works perfectly right now. open the .pls file with VLC and you're good to go.
|
|
|
YaoYuan just started for info.
But Zatic's stream is usually good, even though it failed me last week.
|
Hoping for the Protoss sweep!
But I doubt it will happen... actually FBH winning wouldn't break my heart.
|
finnaly, this greasemonkey and tl script is a savior, i used to watch on daum, now it buffers like each sec for a min, then sports daum, worked great, but is buffering like crazy.. now on VLC i finnaly have good picture..
|
PLEASE KAL GET NEW GLASSES
|
|
|
I want
Kal,JD,FBH,BISU
I expect
Kal,JK,Tempest,Hwasin
The cool thing with my wants ,expect for bisu who can be interchanged with hwasin, is they will all lead to super expect semi's.
Kal Vs JD rematch, JD vs Bisu first Bo3, JD vs FBH who is a fucking savage TvZ and actually could win. Oh ya I forgot non jaedong fans might not like it because I see him in the finals 100% unless hwasin meets him in seminals.... which I would then place at 70% JD favor.
|
On October 16 2008 18:34 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2008 18:33 GinNtoniC wrote:On October 16 2008 18:29 Jonteman wrote:On October 16 2008 18:27 GinNtoniC wrote:
Ten minutes before event-start and GOM is giving me all sorts of trouble. The TL-sidebar isn't providing me with any info today and yaoyuan is a mess.
I skipped everything I had scheduled today to watch these games, not finding a stream would be a disaster. Can anyone provide me with some last-minute help?
Thanks in advance. tried the daum sports thing? Could do that, it lagged terribly last time, but I'll try it. hang on TL sidebar doesn't show up until about 5 min before the event starts. it works perfectly right now. open the .pls file with VLC and you're good to go.
Running dual streams atm. The daum sports thingie shows Iris in his booth atm, the zatic stream shows weird commercials.
Does it do that for anyone else, or did I somehow fuck that stream up?
edit: 1st game now started on the Daum Sport stream.
the zatic stream still shows commercials for me. whooplidoo.
final edit:
Now both streams are finally synced.
This day might yet turn out to be a good one!
Thanks for all the help fellow TLers!
|
On October 16 2008 18:33 GinNtoniC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2008 18:29 Jonteman wrote:On October 16 2008 18:27 GinNtoniC wrote:
Ten minutes before event-start and GOM is giving me all sorts of trouble. The TL-sidebar isn't providing me with any info today and yaoyuan is a mess.
I skipped everything I had scheduled today to watch these games, not finding a stream would be a disaster. Can anyone provide me with some last-minute help?
Thanks in advance. tried the daum sports thing? Could do that, it lagged terribly last time, but I'll try it. hang on
its lagging for me for like last 2 weeks, i used to have no problem on daum, then sports , now even yaouan works better when it finnaly buffers.
|
lol, half the ppl in that gom commercial are out already ~_~
|
|
|
|
|
game paused Iris having trouble I guess
|
seems mouse failed on him
|
lots of empty seats i hope they fill for JD
|
There will be no empty seats for Jaedong's match, and there will be people stacked outside hoping for a glipse on Bisu's match.
|
|
|
well daum sports lags terribly again, but VLC stream just came in JEA LETS GO
|
msl and tech problems have a long history ^^
|
On October 16 2008 18:40 GinNtoniC wrote:
edit: 1st game now started on the Daum Sport stream.
the zatic stream still shows commercials for me. whooplidoo.
Zatic stream is like 5 minutes behind. Daum sports thing started the game like a minute ago and zatic's stream just finally showed iris in his booth with some girl in there prolly working on some problem.
Maybe the game got paused or something and it's not behind, but this looks like it's probably pregame preperations.
EDIT: Ah someone's mouse failed on them? I guess the stream isn't behind then.
Maybe the sports stream is the one behind in that case.
|
it's not starting up again for a while, iris folds his hands, ref leaves his booth and goes to talk to kal
|
CA10825 Posts
On October 16 2008 18:40 GinNtoniC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2008 18:34 LosingID8 wrote:On October 16 2008 18:33 GinNtoniC wrote:On October 16 2008 18:29 Jonteman wrote:On October 16 2008 18:27 GinNtoniC wrote:
Ten minutes before event-start and GOM is giving me all sorts of trouble. The TL-sidebar isn't providing me with any info today and yaoyuan is a mess.
I skipped everything I had scheduled today to watch these games, not finding a stream would be a disaster. Can anyone provide me with some last-minute help?
Thanks in advance. tried the daum sports thing? Could do that, it lagged terribly last time, but I'll try it. hang on TL sidebar doesn't show up until about 5 min before the event starts. it works perfectly right now. open the .pls file with VLC and you're good to go. Running dual streams atm. The daum sports thingie shows Iris in his booth atm, the zatic stream shows weird commercials. Does it do that for anyone else, or did I somehow fuck that stream up? edit: 1st game now started on the Daum Sport stream. the zatic stream still shows commercials for me. whooplidoo.
and... zatic stream is working perfectly
|
someone PLZ post the VLC link!!
|
Can you give me VLC link?
|
Or Zatics which I cant see for some odd reason....
|
|
|
Fix this now!! I dont want my kebab to get cold!
|
They are starting a new game
|
CA10825 Posts
On October 16 2008 18:46 Ota Solgryn wrote:
someone PLZ post the VLC link!!
On October 16 2008 18:47 Darth Peter wrote:
Can you give me VCL link?
download zatic's sidebar stream plugin as linked from the original post. all your problems will be solved. please use the resources that have been laid out clearly and provided for you before blindly asking for a stream.
|
On October 16 2008 18:47 Darth Peter wrote:
Can you give me VCL link?
just install greasemonkey, the script and "STREAM" in huge, bold letters will appear below the Power Rank on TL.
Click that and open with VLC and you just can't go wrong. really.
edit: Everything is perfectly linked and described in zatic's thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67190
|
|
|
For those than want the vlc link, this should work i think:
+ Show Spoiler +
just make sure you select the whole thing and try opening it under network stream for vlc
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
lol orb ffs. First: your link fucks the thread up.
Second: Don't post the exact streamlink, it could overload the stream if everyone follows it.
edit: that's better, thanks
|
Kal green at 3
Iris white at 11
|
|
|
Mind,Kal and Type-B need to form a team. Nobody would be sure who they were up against.
|
whats the quality on zatics stream? is it like gom players high quality (pink button) or like gom players low quality (orange button)?
|
On October 16 2008 18:50 GinNtoniC wrote:
lol orb ffs. First: your link fucks the thread up.
Second: Don't post the exact streamlink, it could overload the stream if everyone follows it.
First: 5 seconds after posting I put it in spoiler tags lol.
Second: The exact stream link is the exact thing everyone's getting from the zatic link is it not? I'm just giving them the same thing in link form instead of a file with link info that vlc opens...
|
FE from Kal, depot, gas, barracks for wall in for iris
|
Goojila with 13 nex -> prolly Iris will switch to Berserker mode and scv rush him around factory finishes.
|
On October 16 2008 18:50 DIMJkE wrote:
Thanks Zatic!
that's actually a decent first post, I'll second that. thx zatic for another perfect stream.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
On October 16 2008 18:51 -orb- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2008 18:50 GinNtoniC wrote:
lol orb ffs. First: your link fucks the thread up.
Second: Don't post the exact streamlink, it could overload the stream if everyone follows it. First: 5 seconds after posting I put it in spoiler tags lol. Second: The exact stream link is the exact thing everyone's getting from the zatic link is it not? I'm just giving them the same thing in link form instead of a file with link info that vlc opens...
yeah, you're faster than me 
what im thinking is a lot of forumlurkers wont be arsed to actually install the things, but when a direct link is added to the thread, the amount of ppl on it suddenly increase by 300%.
I think that's basically what happened when ppl started copying VLC-links out of irc.
|
Its a playlist, the exact stream is bad.
|
Two fact against super fast nex... gotta think a good timing push bodes well for Iris. Lots of seige tanks should be available with those dual machine shops.
|
|
|
Iris with a bamboo terran push!
|
3 tanks 2 vults some marines iris moves out against 6 goons and 1 zeal
|
3 tanks sieged and taking out the temple.
|
3 tank and 2 vults push kal's 5 remaining goons into his base and iris seiges outside while sending vults in to plan mines around kals base
|
|
|
WHOA ALL THE PROBES DIED LOL
|
|
|
WOOOOOOOOOOOO
DREAM MINE!
10+ probes!?
|
reaver takes out 3 tanks!
|
|
|
Inside mine explosion on probe line!
|
mines take out a million probes
|
Russian Federation4333 Posts
M-M-M-M-M-MONSTER MINE!!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Fuck Daum is really being shitty awful these days...
|
Damn this reaver harass is totally making up for that mine...
|
Kal is doing some great damage with this reaver.
|
kal's reaver harass takes out a decent amount of scvs and iris takes way too long dealing with it
|
lol goons blocked in by pylon wall.
|
whoa a lot of scvs taken at expo
|
|
|
|
|
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Goons in the nat.
Streaming into main. Looks like GG
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
reaver finally dead and shuttle too but a ton of goons enter iris's base and he ggs
|
that was possibly the best mine drag i have ever seen
|
Wow, that reaver really paid off.
|
Wow, intense opening game. Iris had no answer for that harass/goon swarm.
|
|
|
GG, short and exciting game.
|
Kal is just better. Couldn't have gone any other way.
|
I'm 1/4 so far
|
man kal played that perfectly
|
Kal with a clean performance.
|
Pardon me anyone with a working stream?? Just want to see Jaedong!
|
Man he got his money worth with that reaver!
|
Kal is backstage and proud that he's not a slave to a god that doesn't exist. Well, at least I got one game right tonight.
|
The OP has all that you need to watch, try Daum Sports Player.
|
is awesome32271 Posts
|
yeah iris kinda sucked t.t
|
Iris had the advantage when that mine killed a ton of probes. But that reaver turned everything around, first by killing the 3 tanks at Kals base and then by causing havoc in Iris base!
|
But Kals reaver was quite awesome
Gg
That spiderman that killed 50 probes was just lol though =)
|
|
|
That was an awesome game!
|
I love the intro vids with realistic units flying around.
|
poor free has the worst luck
|
anyone know what this synth rock song is?
|
lol look at frees face, he knows he is gonna get raped ^^ i predict proxy gates from him ^^
|
|
|
I like free but there's no way he's going to take this from Jaedong.
|
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Cmon Jaedong, a perfect chance to beat your ELO peak. A bo3 against free and a PL match vs Estro.
You cannot lose these games!
|
Jaedong with his new bruce lee hair style is going to karate chop free. ENTER THE SWARM!
|
kang min is commentating !!!!!!!!!!! NAL RA
|
On October 16 2008 19:05 traced wrote:
anyone know what this synth rock song is?
I dunno, but "fight song" by marilyn mason was playing after Kal won
|
|
|
Well, if free can play an A+ game and has some success in BO's (or cheese) and Jaedong makes a mistake or two. (however unlikely that is.) We could see a close game. But in all likelyhood Jaedong is going to take it.
Hoping for a good game though! =D
|
haha they have him listed as pretty[gm]
|
I'm obviously picking Jaedong. His multitasking ability makes amazing comebacks possible even if he falls behind early.
|
is awesome32271 Posts
On October 16 2008 19:10 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
haha they have him listed as pretty[gm]
Yeah he has been using this aka for quite a while...
|
On October 16 2008 19:10 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
haha they have him listed as pretty[gm]
he changed his ID like 1 or 2 years ago, the foreign community just ignores gay new IDs, like Frozean still is called Frozean by everyone in the foreign community although he changed to CuteAngel pretty long ago as well
|
On October 16 2008 19:10 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
haha they have him listed as pretty[gm]
Ya...he uses that Id a lot? Btw what the hell is with that comment you made about Iris being "backstage proud not to be a slave to a god that doesnt exist". That sounded sort of insane.
|
Aww man..
I want Jaedong to win so bad. I want him to show of his cool muta then hydra strat. I love it!
|
Damn there's a lot of talking
|
Pretty[gm] how unmanly is that anyway?
|
|
|
I'm liking Jaedong's new hairstyle.
|
Why does the OP even create this thread when he doesn't update it? lol
|
On October 16 2008 19:12 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2008 19:10 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
haha they have him listed as pretty[gm] Ya...he uses that Id a lot? Btw what the hell is with that comment you made about Iris being "backstage proud not to be a slave to a god that doesnt exist". That sounded sort of insane.
It was a lyric from the song playing. Also I meant to say that about Kal. And it really doesn't make sense for the situation, and yes, Marilyn Manson is insane.
|
So I just bet 100$ to win 300$ if Free wins, am I a sucker?
|
9070 Posts
|
Is that Jaedong warming up?!
woop woop
|
I'm thinking that pre-game talk will take longer than the actual game!
|
Look at Jaedong warming up, it's a sight to behold.
|
On October 16 2008 19:15 Oystein wrote:
So I just bet 100$ to win 300$ if Free wins, am I a sucker?
Y E S !
|
On October 16 2008 19:07 epjx31 wrote:
kang min is commentating !!!!!!!!!!! NAL RA
OMG <33333333333333333
|
On October 16 2008 19:15 Oystein wrote:
So I just bet 100$ to win 300$ if Free wins, am I a sucker?
Oh... probably. Maybe if the payoff was better. Last time Free made this deep in the MSL he got destroyed by Savior. But hey, he did win one game! So who knows. :p
|
I think they had a problem with JD comp. Damn his fingers are fast!
|
On October 16 2008 19:17 3nickma wrote:
I'm thinking that pre-game talk will take longer than the actual game!
Only if Jeadong has to go to w.c.
|
On October 16 2008 19:14 clazziquai wrote:
Why does the OP even create this thread when he doesn't update it? lol
lol welcome to 80% of League thread :D
|
omg nal_ra commenting? :D
|
|
|
Let's not forget a zerg has never beat a protoss on Byzantium out of 7 TLPD matches. We'll see if Byzantium 2 is different. Of course, some of those Byzantium wins were by Jangbi and Backho and none of the zerg losses were particularly awesome zergs.
|
Free at top left, jaedong blue zerg bottom left
|
Russian Federation4333 Posts
On October 16 2008 19:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Let's not forget a zerg has never beat a protoss on Byzantium out of 7 TLPD matches. We'll see if Byzantium 2 is different. Of course, some of those Byzantium wins were by Jangbi and Backho and none of the zerg losses were particularly awesome zergs.
Pretty much all those zergs were mediocre/bad.
That 0-7 doesn't mean shit when its JD ZvP.
|
look at that sexy larva micro from JD
|
JD sends overlord in correct direction
|
Both scouting the right way.
|
On October 16 2008 19:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Let's not forget a zerg has never beat a protoss on Byzantium out of 7 TLPD matches. We'll see if Byzantium 2 is different. Of course, some of those Byzantium wins were by Jangbi and Backho and none of the zerg losses were particularly awesome zergs.
lol yeah wouldn't count on those zergs for statistical analysis
|
9070 Posts
did free just misplaced his pylon ?! :D
|
On October 16 2008 19:21 TheTyranid wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2008 19:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Let's not forget a zerg has never beat a protoss on Byzantium out of 7 TLPD matches. We'll see if Byzantium 2 is different. Of course, some of those Byzantium wins were by Jangbi and Backho and none of the zerg losses were particularly awesome zergs. Pretty much all those zergs were mediocre/bad. That 0-7 doesn't mean shit when its JD ZvP.
I definitely agree.
|
|
|
6 lings out for JD
free with great probe life-extending micro
2 cannons coming at free's expo
|
|
|
|
|
Daniel Lee? with?
random date?
|
|
|
Russian Federation4333 Posts
On October 16 2008 19:25 ChaoSbringer wrote:
Nevergg and daniel lee!
That is not Nevergg, that is some blonde.
|
|
|
|
|
jd containing free with 6 lings
|
stargate done for free, 1st sair out
|
templar archives out, as well as first mutas, getting the cannon and some probes
|
DT sneaks through starts getting probes gets 4 or 5, going for eggs now
|
|
|
fw
Korea (South)1201 Posts
On October 16 2008 19:25 GinNtoniC wrote:
Daniel Lee? with?
random date?
maybe a writer or so from PBS.
|
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Why am i getting that Bisu/Savior feeling..... T_T
|
wtf why didnt free take out the spire with that dt ?
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Good defense by free so far.
|
Go Free !!! Show us the power of Toss :D
|
DT still alive, fangirls worried, archon out, another DT gets more probes
edit er drones duh
|
Russian Federation4333 Posts
|
On October 16 2008 19:30 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
DT still alive, fangirls worried, archon out, another DT gets more probes
edit er drones duh
Poor probe gettings kill by his own DT T_T
|
|
|
3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
Jaedong is REALLY low on probes
|
Russian Federation4333 Posts
|
archon and decent number of sairs should end the muta effectiveness
|
|
|
|
|
Hungary11270 Posts
|
|
|
Wow JD Lost and its true this map does favor on toss
|
wtf... 2 hatch muta vs. P????
|
|
|
|
|
Aotearoa39261 Posts
|
|
|
WHOA. Did not expect that. Jaedong didn't power nearly as much as he usually does... think that costed him.
|
The hell? He kills just about everything and gives up... poor fight jd!
|
is awesome32271 Posts
|
On October 16 2008 19:31 Tekin wrote:
Wow JD Lost and its true this map does favor on toss
yes lets blame the map lol..
free really played well here
|
JD GGs, free wins!!!!!! (I lose, some kid wins $300 apparently, zergs continue to lose on byzantium)
|
GJ free.I hope u will beat JD next time too
|
fw
Korea (South)1201 Posts
oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
FREEEEEE destroyed the destroyer !
|
God, free played perfectly! Too much arrogance on Jaedong and his fans! Take that!
|
Meh... Jaedong -_- We need your Zerg powers, please bring your A game next time.
|
Cool.
As long as Stars hang onto free, they'll do fine.
Jaedong will probably win the second two games though.
|
nvm... wtf happened?
jd just trusts his 2 hat muta way too much, if you dont do ridiculous dmg with it, its over 8[
ah well I guess he just has to play more standard the next 2 games and he'll be fine -.-
|
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Free did not win that game. He didn't do anything spectacular.
Jaedong lost it. Why did he play so badly? New ELO peak was so close.....
|
Yay its my turn to be bm, GOGO FREE, YOU OWNNNNED THAT NOOB
in all seriousness that was smart play by free just to be a cannon whore
|
Free played pretty good,although this map is imba.
|
nice build by free - archon sair was a great counter to 2 hatch muta - hero DTs as well
|
LOL GJ , hmm Jaedong 1 game from elimination i hope i don't miss next week's games .Damn DTs are cruel .
That is why 2 hat mutas are super risky even all - in depends if you have eny followups .
The protoss could have 2 cannons and build archons and sairs and you can survive , but the zerg is vulnerable to almost any counter fast zealots DTs or enything that get to your low economy line .
|
|
|
DT are jsut sooo good when you can use them well... !!!
GJ Free !
|
Isn't really that much of a surprise to me, Free's been pretty hot recently.
|
9070 Posts
ah the pain one more and JD is out for good, but I dont think free will make the world a better place
|
Hehe, Free really did everything right that game, and Jaedong didn't do enough right.
|
Fuck it! What a fucking waste with these shitty slideshows at best and then my favoruite player looses and I have to read the results :s
Well still two games to go were Jaedong will utterly destroy Free I'm sure of!
|
Alright, time for the game of the night (for me, anyway). Go FBH!!
|
On October 16 2008 19:34 disciple wrote:ah the pain one more and JD is out for good, but I dont think free will make the world a better place
Lets hope and pray my friend, hope and pray
I dont mind JD winning this shit its just if hes also out of both leauges, then people cant rag on flash for being out aswell
|
jaedong build was perfectly countered , free cut so many probes to get those 3 cannons and still get sair out that early vs 2 hat muta. JD hiding that drone informed free he was doing something aggressive t.t.
Free played better. That map isn't that imba zvp at all. Zergs have just played stupidly on it.
|
On October 16 2008 19:36 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2008 19:34 disciple wrote:ah the pain one more and JD is out for good, but I dont think free will make the world a better place Lets hope and pray my friend, hope and pray I dont mind JD winning this shit its just if hes also out of both leauges, then people cant rag on flash for being out aswell
lol u must be a pretty extreme fanboy if u want to deprive yourself of viewing pleasure just so JD isnt doing better than Flash...
lets face it, a good zerg (especially JD) just makes the whole league more interesting, we have enough pvp/pvt/tvt already °_°
|
|
|
On October 16 2008 19:36 AttackZerg wrote:
jaedong build was perfectly countered , free cut so many probes to get those 3 cannons and still get sair out that early vs 2 hat muta. JD hiding that drone informed free he was doing something aggressive t.t.
Free played better. That map isn't that imba zvp at all. Zergs have just played stupidly on it.
well it may be that normal zvp builds have worked terribly in practice so they feel they have to do these weird builds
|
On October 16 2008 19:36 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2008 19:34 disciple wrote:ah the pain one more and JD is out for good, but I dont think free will make the world a better place Lets hope and pray my friend, hope and pray I dont mind JD winning this shit its just if hes also out of both leauges, then people cant rag on flash for being out aswell
Well that would be true if Flash doesn't fail in gom as well 
|
On October 16 2008 19:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2008 19:36 AttackZerg wrote:
jaedong build was perfectly countered , free cut so many probes to get those 3 cannons and still get sair out that early vs 2 hat muta. JD hiding that drone informed free he was doing something aggressive t.t.
Free played better. That map isn't that imba zvp at all. Zergs have just played stupidly on it. well it may be that normal zvp builds have worked terribly in practice so they feel they have to do these weird builds
Or because I paid him to throw the game.
|
alright FBH and tempest getting their game faces on - FBH has his dancing shoes on
|
JD probably just wanted to revive the old tradition of his to throw game 1 of a series just to show that he can
|
MBC techs set the server to final destination, no items.
|
On October 16 2008 19:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2008 19:36 AttackZerg wrote:
jaedong build was perfectly countered , free cut so many probes to get those 3 cannons and still get sair out that early vs 2 hat muta. JD hiding that drone informed free he was doing something aggressive t.t.
Free played better. That map isn't that imba zvp at all. Zergs have just played stupidly on it. well it may be that normal zvp builds have worked terribly in practice so they feel they have to do these weird builds
prime example - forgg finals
|
On October 16 2008 19:43 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
MBC techs set the server to final destination, no items.
eheehee
|
Come on Tempest, beat this dancing chump!
|
on a related note, it really pisses me off that mapmakers try to come up with something fresh and new every season, thus the lack of zergs making it far in all leagues... Zerg just is not that well suited for these flashy maps, they need the standard big open center t.t
|
Destination is T 5-2 P including tempest previously losing to lomo on this map. FBH beat Much here, he's got to be the favorite. Only Protosses to win on this map are Aiur's finest: Stork and BeSt.
|
I don't care who wins,I hope I see a game like yesterday between Tempest and Lomo.
|
FBH green at top, Tempest purple at bottom.
|
No cheese going on so far.
|
pylon gateway for tempest, depot barracks for fbh
|
2nd barracks coming for fbh
edit: im an idition, that was a depot
2nd edit: im an idiot that can't spell
|
I wouldn't expect jaedong to wuss out and cheese just because the map is somewhat unfavouring. He can pull a miracle pretty well. He probably was just taking the opportunity to mix it up, but not killing that probe fast enough really hurt him it seems, and i could be wrong but i think he should've prioritized cannons over sairs a bit more. Scourge own sairs. 6 mutas don't own finished cannons. Free seemed smart at one point to let his sair absorb damage while is cannons warped.
|
|
|
|
|
observatory first for tempest, vultures on the move for fbh
|
fbh mining outside of tempest's base and moving out with tanks rines and more vults
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hungary11270 Posts
One trick, two factories.
|
this tempest is so bad omg
|
Well... that was a walkover.
|
On October 16 2008 19:53 traced wrote:
2 fac rape. :/
|
tempest bming the dancer by staying late
|
That was too easy...
Bisu, please show everyone what a real MSL game looks like.
|
|
|
|
|
fw
Korea (South)1201 Posts
|
|
|
Russian Federation4333 Posts
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Come on bisu, bring forward the scouts!
|
It's alright Tempest is just a kid.
|
I would say TvP is imbalanced after this game if Kal hadn't raped Iris with that reaver
|
tempest pissed, fbh pumps fist and leaves
|
D+ T going 2fact could have also beaten Tempest
|
dunno but all these games sucked pretty bad tbh
|
Ok. Time for a real game of Starcraft, after these 3 little baby.. gamies?
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Actually I am happy to have this game wrapped up so quickly. Now, if Bisu rapes Hwasin in an impressive and painful fashion, I will have had a good time.
|
On October 16 2008 19:56 damenmofa wrote:
dunno but all these games sucked pretty bad tbh
at least the right guys won
|
I would be a lot more hyped for this game if Hwasin had trashed his latest Protoss opponents. But I can't even remember the last time he's played one...
|
imho,
Hwasin's TvP > FBH's TvP.
Come on insurance, even FBH could beat bisu!
|
Kanno Yoko music during commercials?
|
Once more, FBH allows me to go to bed a happy man. G'night!
|
I got watch this last game before i go to bed and wake up at 9am then off to school
|
On October 16 2008 19:58 zer0das wrote:
I would be a lot more hyped for this game if Hwasin had trashed his latest Protoss opponents. But I can't even remember the last time he's played one...
And Jaedong won against his last 12 protoss opponents, yet still he lost.
Hwasin not playing any toss lately means nothing. This is a Bo3, with a bigass break between game1 and the rest, its anyone's game. Anything can happen.
|
Hwasin and Bisu...
I hope Hwasin wins once.
But man, these MSL games -_-;; only gg so far was... ....
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Now THOSE were real chants.
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Hwasin at 5 in yellow, Bisu at 7 in brown.
|
|
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Depot and Pylon placed in their mains. Gateway / Barracks as standard dictates. Gas for Hwasin right away. Bisu also adds his gas and Cycore. He is scouting the wrong position, so he does not have a zealot yet. No scouting from hwasin either yet.
|
Hey looks like Hwasin didn't over do it on the lipstick / gloss tonight.
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Bisu will scout Hwasin last, Hwasin will find Bisu right away. Maybe Hwasin will switch to 2 fac FBH style if he manages to deny scouting.
Goon range incoming for Bisu. Hwasin enters Bisu's main with an SCV.
|
hwasin's got an scv in bisus main, probe finally getting to hwasin but marines take it out
|
YES! FBH won his game ^_^
yayyyyy
|
On October 16 2008 20:11 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Hey looks like Hwasin didn't over do it on the lipstick / gloss tonight.
Haha, at least the girls likes it. This is the battle of great looks
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Looks like Hwasin will be able to deny scouting from Bisu. He adds a shop and leaves his SCVs on gas.
|
bisu sends goon to scout hwasin, it runs into 4 rines
|
oh man i hate this laggy stream :/
|
Bisu's playing fairly blind, he's got to gates, Hwasin is expanding
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Bisu expanding at his natural and getting a citadel. Hwasin pushes out with his FD and expands at his natural too.
|
bisu expands as well, putting up a citadel of adun
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Maybe DT drop coming for Bisu with this buildup? At least he is getting Archives now. 2nd fac and engbay building for Hwasin.
|
2 facts for Hwasin, archives coming up a while after finishing the citadel, dunno why the delay
|
turrets coming up for hwasin, he definitely expects a drop
|
Bisu totaly blind so far.
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Now a Robotics is done for Bisu too. But Hwasin is already turreting all around his main and getting an academy. This drop might not do much damage, putting Bisu behind. Bisu pylonwalling the 9 expansion to use the pressure from his DT drop.
|
DT out for bisu, robo bay is up, drop coming
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Bisu loading up 4 DTs in total at the moment, ready to send them over. Hwasin appears to have his expansion undercovered with turrets, the bottom looks open.
|
|
|
bisu expand again, turrets get two shots off on the shuttle
|
DT gets a tank, shuttle retreats
|
Hungary11270 Posts
DT snipes one tank that is JUST outside of detection range. Bisu expanding to 9 and transferring probes. Some vultures harass those probes and kill 3-4 of them. DT containment and attempted map control for Bisu. Hwasin pushing out with some vulture and tank, he has two scanners up.
|
hwasin tries to harass with vults but goons get em and pylon wall was up anyway
hwasin has scan now and takes out a dt
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Bisu snipes an SCV building an expasion at Hwasin's third (towards the middle). Temps coming for Bisu now.
|
dt snipes an expansion attempt, almost does it again
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Hwasin taking the third base upon eliminating the DT stationed there. If Hwasin can keep up the expansion race, he has a good chance of taking this. Bisu mass macroing at the moment and expanding towards top left, though there are some vultures there.
|
observatory up, stargate coming for bisu,
mines are everywhere, bisu's cleaning them up with goons and obs
|
I feel it. Hwasin will win.
|
9070 Posts
|
dt drop happens, it gets taken out after killing only 1 marine
|
Bisu now with 4 bases i think, probes going to 4th base get massacred by vulttures that then get pinced by two groups of goons
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Bisu maintaining his harass. Hwasin does a good job at sniping transferring probes towards top left. He has a decent bunch of metal now. Some vultures suffer in the middle. Vultures finally find the top left expansion of Bisu's, kill some probes.
|
looks like hwasin's going for vessels now
|
Laggy stream...
I don't like how this is going Bisu!!!
No scouting -> poor harass -> Terran expands freely...
Step up your game. You can do it!
|
arbiter tribunal up, bisu moving in with huge army storms on seige tanks, bisu coming out ahead
|
LOL, Bisu looking like Best.
|
great buffering, i missed the main battle
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Bisu attacks the third! Beautiful storms blanket the tanks, and he almost pushes through - the CC is forced to lift. Arbiters coming for the Revolutionist now.
|
he takes out an expansion but can't advance further right this minute, drop ship out for hwasin
|
|
|
YEEEEEEEEEESSS BBisuuuuuuu go go go
|
tons of goons, storms and zealots i think hwasin is too vulture heavy and spread out
|
Man, Bisu knows how to demolish Terran.
|
the embattled expo of hwasin's falls again and bisu expands again, hwasin is sieged over an expo of bisu's got dropped on, bisu clears it
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Next wave of protoss rolls over the expansion! Some goons make it to the newly established 3 base. Drop at 12 took out many probes and soon the nexus? Bisu in heavy macro mode.
Bisu takes out the tanks at the top. Hwasin is still in this game, but on the ropes somehow. Arbiters roaming the map.
|
Bisu is winning? wtf! he just lost to fbh a few days ago.
|
|
|
FBH had a big macro/BO advantage.
|
RECALL COMING! turret deters it mines laid
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Maybe recall at the 3 base now. No, he goes for the main!
|
hwasin in a good position now
|
|
|
On October 16 2008 20:25 dinmsab wrote:
Bisu is winning? wtf! he just lost to fbh a few days ago.
FBH was lucky
|
recall happens , major damage in the main, hwasin counters weakly with a drop and vultures somehwere else
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Harassing vultures at top left bring Hwasin back into the game. Recall is killed without too much trouble.
|
|
|
Hwasin pulling back in with good dropship and vulture harass, and Bisu's recall did minimal damage.
|
looks like hwasin clears his main without fatal damage
|
Bisu shows such great games lately. This is what a true Starcraft champion gives to the fans! ALL HIS GAMES ARE BEAUTIFUL LATELY! And he gets his opponents to give the best they got in them.
|
another hwasin expansion is under heavy damage, goliaths out, expansion sacrified
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Bisu breaks into the 3 expansion. CC is forced to lift off.
|
This is over already GG Hwasin
|
|
|
|
|
3rd exp down for Hwasin,if Bisu loses this i will cut my left arm!
|
bisu double expands during the secnd recall that is finally taken care of
|
9070 Posts
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Another recall at the main, not with much damage, but buys time to expand and macro.
|
holy shit bisu is amazing again
|
|
|
Hungary11270 Posts
Bisu streams into Hwasin's natural and Hwasin ggs out.
|
iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
|
hwasin nat / main busted into without recall help, hwasin ggs
|
|
|
BISU! <3 <3
The spirit! Feel the power of a true MSL champion!
|
Well that was a nice game. time to sleep now
|
Ridiculous macro from Bisu that game. He earned that one.
|
BISU WINS I GOT ONE RIGHT!!!
Iris JD Tempest pls win the next two. :-/
|
That wasn't much of a game past the first fight... too bad the stream buffered and all I see was the last batch of tanks getting stormed. -_-
Edit: Although Bisu played pretty well while blind... but why didn't Hwasin take advantage of that? He scanned the archives... he was content to lay mines all over his plateau, and none of them did much of anything.
|
Yeah BISU to Win It All !!!! :D
|
Have just I seen BEST?? Bisu 's macro was insane
|
Bisu looks pleased, game was really macro heavy for the first time tonight, hwasin had some good moments but Bisu definitely has looked great lately
|
Bisu has that 'rofl 2 ez' look.
|
|
|
Hungary11270 Posts
That was classic Bisu DT play. He did not aim to kill Hwasin with that drop, he meant to occupy him and set up his third to enter heavy macro mode. Well done!
|
9070 Posts
bisu will destroy everyone, starting this season
|
he saves the scouts for game2
|
hwasin got too greedy imo, he had a decent opportunity to push out after bisus dt drop did like no damage, but he opted for a macro game. bad mistake ^^
|
Bisu blocked Hwasin really really well, his last games have all been good. Really seems to be back in form.
|
On October 16 2008 20:30 KreaGata wrote:
Ridiculous macro from Bisu that game. He earned that one.
yeah really
hwasin's got great macro and bisu just straight up shit on him
map favors terran
1 - scouted wrong direction to hwasin scouting correctly
2 - hwasin had build advantage, faster expansion
3 - harass does little damage
4 - hwasin has relatively successful vulture harass, killing 5-10 probes over the span of midgame
5 - bisu's army absolutely rolls hwasin, who had a relatively good defensive setup
|
Bisu will take another MSL!!!
|
|
|
Bisu just showed a sick macro game almost identical to Best's style. MSL/GOM gogo
|
On October 16 2008 20:33 damenmofa wrote:
hwasin got too greedy imo, he had a decent opportunity to push out after bisus dt drop did like no damage, but he opted for a macro game. bad mistake ^^
maybe he was worried about having enough scans?
|
iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
traced is sooo right lol.
basically things weren't looking TOO well for kim taek young until he just rolled over him :O
|
Bisu is back. I can feel it. OMGGGGGGG!
Damn this MSL is gonna be so awesome.
I can't wait till we finish the Ro16
|
On October 16 2008 20:37 iNfeRnaL wrote:
traced is sooo right lol.
basically things weren't looking TOO well for kim taek young until he just rolled over him :O
Yeah :-) my teeth were grinding like crazy, Bisu was freakin' blind from step1, BLIND!
Then he just destroyed Hwasin. This is Bisu. This is MSL!
|
Hwasin played like shit
why doesn't anyone learn from Flash? Anytime protoss opens with a DT stall, just vult patrol the map and expo AGAIN. Protoss get fucked beyond belief because they lose their base advantage. Add your armory and go for the macro game.
|
TAEKYONG CAN I START HATING YOU AGAIN!!!!!1111oneoneone
Hm, you'll have to take a series off JD first, I guess.
|
On October 16 2008 20:39 Ace wrote:Hwasin played like shit why doesn't anyone learn from Flash? Anytime protoss opens with a DT stall, just vult patrol the map and expo AGAIN. Protoss get fucked beyond belief because they lose their base advantage. Add your armory and go for the macro game.
Yeah... that kind of confused me. He laid a ton of mines all over his plateau but none covering his second natural. He could have expanded there sooner, but he didn't. Then he let his scv building the command center get sniped because he didn't have mines covering that particular route. I guess he just didn't want to overextend himself. He wasn't in any danger of dying immediately, that's for sure... but he just got rolled later.
|
|
|
On October 16 2008 11:56 Nitan wrote:
Kal, Free, Firebathero, Bisu. Why not?
How do you Nostradamus like this? I have predicted exactly the oposite!!:-D
|
I LOVE YOU BISU.
Thought tempest will own FBH but failed.
|
FBH shouted " Do not ignore gamer's effort " when he did ceremony
|
Hong Kong20321 Posts
rofl do not ignore gamers effort? o _O whats that supposed to mean they're all gamers haha.
well anyway thanks for translation! :D
|
On October 16 2008 22:09 alffla wrote:rofl do not ignore gamers effort? o _O whats that supposed to mean they're all gamers haha. well anyway thanks for translation! :D
maybe he wanted people to acknowledge the fact that he trained his abysmal tvp to a somewhat competitive level. hence the "gamer's effort".
|
FBH isnt out of the woods yet thought, he still has to win 1 more game vs tempest. I doubt FBH forgot how he won 1 game against Much in the last MSL, just to get pwned a week later when Much won the other 2. =P
|
You have a Terran icon. GO FIREBATHERO. Hwasin... ;\ sigh sigh sigh whine whine whine grrrr
|
damenmofa Bingo!
He was hurt by bad replys...
|
|
|
On October 16 2008 21:39 arbiter_md wrote:How do you Nostradamus like this? I have predicted exactly the oposite!!:-D
Just follow your heart.
|
On October 16 2008 10:01 boongee wrote:
I went with
Kal > Iris
Free < Jaedong
FBH < Tempest
Hwasin < Bisu
this doesn't start for like 7 more hours, right?
these were my bets too
|
United States17042 Posts
The op needs to update the spolier. Although from what i'm reading, bisu rolled hwasin
|
Bisu played great. I haven't seen him play this well for many months. His army was always coordinated really well, in just the right place at just the right time. Maybe Calm can throw some more games to Hwasin and make him feel better. Second time's the charm.
FBH executed his 2fac perfectly, Iris didn't. Or maybe Kal's unit control is just imba?
Jaedong didn't play well. Sure, the map sucks, but a loss is a loss. And Free is strong.
|
United States12607 Posts
Awesome results, I love it. After watching Bisu choke hard all last PL season, it's so refreshing to see him back in form.
TAEKYONG FIGHTING
|
I'm dying to see the bisu game! <3 bisu
|
On October 17 2008 01:16 Storchen wrote:
I'm dying to see the bisu game! <3 bisu
same, i want his resurgency.
|
On October 17 2008 01:30 Raithed wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2008 01:16 Storchen wrote:
I'm dying to see the bisu game! <3 bisu same, i want his resurgency.
The games are up at scforall. (and the vod tracker).
|
|
|
On October 17 2008 00:38 EvoChamber wrote:
FBH executed his 2fac perfectly, Iris didn't. Or maybe Kal's unit control is just imba?
Iris executed the 2fac offensive well - he got a million probes. Then his unit control fell to shit as he let Kal scarab his ass back into the game.
|
On October 17 2008 01:16 Storchen wrote:
I'm dying to see the bisu game! <3 bisu
|
On October 17 2008 03:41 ClouD.BreaK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2008 01:30 Raithed wrote:On October 17 2008 01:16 Storchen wrote:
I'm dying to see the bisu game! <3 bisu same, i want his resurgency. The games are up at scforall. (and the vod tracker).
scforall is so hard to navigate and the discussions on that site keep giving me headaches.
For example, the current vote on Cloud vs NonY, who should go to korea, how did that end up at like 2/3 in favor of Cloud?
Sure, I like the guy as much as anybody else, but NonY has without question been one notch above him the past year - no?
|
Korea (South)3086 Posts
Looks like it was an interesting set of games this week, can't wait to see them when they come out.
|
United States10774 Posts
|
i hope kal does the stove again like he did vs forgg a while back =D
|
FBH vs Tempest was a great game. FBH looked really damn good with his 2fac push, has he overcome his protoss weakness? For me, the only disappointing game was Jaedong vs free. Mass mutas? wtf
|
Just watched the Bisu game. Looks like BeSt taught him a few things about macro :D Great play.
|
It's not like Hwasin played bad either. Until Bisu stormed Hwasin's 2nd expansion, I thought Hwasin was playing perfectly.
|
Man, if Jaedong is eliminated and Stork wins his semi-final and advances past ForGG (two things that are by no means guaranteed, now that I think about it) Stork definitely without reservation deserves #1 on the PR. Sadly.
|
wow i betted really good then
|
|
|
What would be ironic is if FBH wins the OSL playing entirely TvP. This is actually possible with the bracket, if Bisu, Free, and Stork/Kal/Jangbi all advance far enough.
|
On October 17 2008 13:54 Random_0 wrote:
It's not like Hwasin played bad either. Until Bisu stormed Hwasin's 2nd expansion, I thought Hwasin was playing perfectly.
Yeah... I went and rewatched the VOD so I could see that battle. And basically, where were Hwasin's units? He had like no vultures, and not nearly enough mines there. His tanks weren't particularly well positioned either (they were all quite far back on the cliff... why didn't he set them up closer and lay mines on the low ground? as it is, he wasted most of the high ground advantage). I guess he was trying to keep up his macro (he had expanded to his 4th recently), but wasn't able to.
Aside from vulture harass, he played way too passively.
|
Why they put VOD's of MSL games into their Proleague section of SCTV? This is MSL not Proleague... scforall is confusing.
|
wait why is the liquibet credited already? there is "[BO3]" next to the title
:/
|
If firebathero won the MSL, both the ceremony and the drama on TL would be unbelievably awesome.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/3MSL/MSL_080914_1.png)
![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/84.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/129.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/175.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/211.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/43.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/42.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/68.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/125.jpg)
