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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
September 19 2008 05:46 GMT
#121
<3 Berserker always, but was kinda hoping Leta would make it instead of Forgg.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
September 19 2008 05:57 GMT
#122
On September 19 2008 13:37 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2008 00:28 freelander wrote:
On September 18 2008 20:03 PH wrote:
On September 18 2008 19:59 SuperJongMan wrote:
Why can't it be that ForGG used the well to his adv instead of the map is gay?
The map presents interesting dynamics in TvT aggresion and many other mus im sure.

Where we disagree is where you think that cliff is an interesting dynamic. Personally, I think it's imbalanced.

In TvT, of all matchups, I see it as being ridiculously hard to bust that cliff once the other guy has it in his mind to abuse it that badly. Maybe if the gas were out of reach of the cliff, then yeah...but seriously? How do you break that that early in the game? IMO, they either need to close it off and take out the ramp, or add a LOT more hit points to that temple and/or block the ramp with the minerals. It's too easy to get that ramp too early in the game.



How can a mirror matchup be imbalanced? .. jesus. Abuse it as well as you can.

The map, buddy. I'm saying the MAP is imba. -_____-;;


All maps are meant to be 'imbalanced' in some strategic way or another, if you take imbalanced to mean some strategies being inherently superior. Not all strategies are meant to be valid on all maps; otherwise there'd be no point in making new maps.
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Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2528 Posts
September 19 2008 06:05 GMT
#123
On September 19 2008 13:37 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2008 00:28 freelander wrote:
On September 18 2008 20:03 PH wrote:
On September 18 2008 19:59 SuperJongMan wrote:
Why can't it be that ForGG used the well to his adv instead of the map is gay?
The map presents interesting dynamics in TvT aggresion and many other mus im sure.

Where we disagree is where you think that cliff is an interesting dynamic. Personally, I think it's imbalanced.

In TvT, of all matchups, I see it as being ridiculously hard to bust that cliff once the other guy has it in his mind to abuse it that badly. Maybe if the gas were out of reach of the cliff, then yeah...but seriously? How do you break that that early in the game? IMO, they either need to close it off and take out the ramp, or add a LOT more hit points to that temple and/or block the ramp with the minerals. It's too easy to get that ramp too early in the game.



How can a mirror matchup be imbalanced? .. jesus. Abuse it as well as you can.

The map, buddy. I'm saying the MAP is imba. -_____-;;
When a map is called imbalance, it is called imbalance with regards to a particular matchup. If not this, then care to elaborate on what you mean?
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
September 19 2008 06:57 GMT
#124
On September 19 2008 13:37 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2008 00:28 freelander wrote:
On September 18 2008 20:03 PH wrote:
On September 18 2008 19:59 SuperJongMan wrote:
Why can't it be that ForGG used the well to his adv instead of the map is gay?
The map presents interesting dynamics in TvT aggresion and many other mus im sure.

Where we disagree is where you think that cliff is an interesting dynamic. Personally, I think it's imbalanced.

In TvT, of all matchups, I see it as being ridiculously hard to bust that cliff once the other guy has it in his mind to abuse it that badly. Maybe if the gas were out of reach of the cliff, then yeah...but seriously? How do you break that that early in the game? IMO, they either need to close it off and take out the ramp, or add a LOT more hit points to that temple and/or block the ramp with the minerals. It's too easy to get that ramp too early in the game.



How can a mirror matchup be imbalanced? .. jesus. Abuse it as well as you can.

The map, buddy. I'm saying the MAP is imba. -_____-;;

Well, we need a larger sample size and examples before saying it's imbalanced, because the presence of a cliff near your base doesn't always make it imbalanced. I doubt any zerg player would allow the tanks to have free reign over the temple. I don't know about protoss though, I don't think the protoss gets contained too often to surrender such large map control. It could be, we'll have to see more games.
On a sidenote, you already lost this argument since a staff member doesn't agree with your opinion.
Jaedong
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 19 2008 09:39 GMT
#125
Iris vs Zero proves something that's been fairly common knowledge for a while now

Lower level zergs really shouldn't try to outsmart Iris, cuz they arent gonna
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
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