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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
June 13 2008 10:07 GMT
#161
On June 13 2008 19:04 trollbone wrote:
Luxury showed us how ZvT have to be played on this map

In the Final edit "A state of starcraft"

letmerose and Plexa argued that the 3rd base for the zerg on the current map wasn't safe

On troy just kill the assimilator ! It's pretty simple

Then u have a lot of choice with this start

Play this map like an island maps with guardian and drop
Expanding everywhere
......

I think Flash had to played this map like casy played it, nuke rush !


Yup Nuke could counter all those sunks ..
soccercop
Profile Joined August 2006
Fiji305 Posts
June 13 2008 10:07 GMT
#162
it took something out of the ordinary to beat flash. it sure took a long time. nicely played.
To defy your destiny makes you indestructible
Barbarne
Profile Joined August 2007
Sweden458 Posts
June 13 2008 10:07 GMT
#163
That's what you get for playing standard i rax FE in every single game you play (except when he cheeses)! FU flash! The most boring player to ever dominate anything.

That strategy was so efficient versus standard play, it was almost ridiculous. I'd say that the TLPD imbalance for Troy isn't really realistic as all of the games where zerg lost versus terran, the zerg was either sunken breaked, or completely outclassed (might be some exception though).

That was amazing, it's too bad though that both andromeda and hwarangdo are really hard ZvT. I will be faithful to my hero though. It's very impressive performing this well against the toughest competition in the world.

Here's to a ZvZ final!
WingSandrockX
Profile Joined January 2007
Korea (North)1164 Posts
June 13 2008 10:07 GMT
#164
--- Nuked ---
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-13 10:11:38
June 13 2008 10:08 GMT
#165
Lux played extremely well but flash made some pretty big mistakes. He lost a tank by moving into range of a sunk (slower break). He also lost his first vessel AND delayed his second by going dropship which only managed to delay lux's gas slightly.

He also made a strategic error in my humble opinion. When he saw the build order lux was using (no lurk, quick hive) I think a T needs their second starport ASAP, take an earlier gas at the nat and just get some 3 vessels out asap. From there make 2 dropships at the same time and use that to harass the nat and/or main using scan to pick the best target and the main army to distract the zergs main forces.

As usual with bw, a LOT easier said than done. But I think if flash had saved his first vessel/started a faster starport and focused on vessels before making a dropship. He wouldve handled the guards a lot easier and reapplied pressure before ultras became a real threat.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 13 2008 10:09 GMT
#166
On June 13 2008 19:08 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Lux played extremely well but flash made some pretty big mistakes. He lost a tank by moving into range of a sunk (slower break). He also lost his first vessel AND delayed his second by going dropship which only managed to delay lux's gas slightly. He also made a strategic error in my humble opinion. When he say the build order lux was using (no lurk, quick hive) I think a T needs their second starport ASAP, take an earlier gas at the nat and just get some vessels out asap. From there make 2 dropships at the same time and use that to harass the nat.

As usual , easier said than done. But I think if flash had saved his first vessel, started a faster starport. He wouldve handled the guards a lot easier and reapplied pressure before ultras became a real threat.


The mark of a great strategy is the requirement of flawless play by the opponent to defeat it
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
June 13 2008 10:09 GMT
#167
Okay, so Best versus Much. Time for Old Man Toss to get taken down a notch.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
June 13 2008 10:10 GMT
#168
On June 13 2008 19:04 Worked! wrote:
it's funny how I can listen to Korean commentators all day but when I watched PGL one night I had to put it on mute o_O

Heh, I felt like that too. I guess that's because koreans are just screaming like mad when something exciting happens, and you don't have to understand korean to have fun They also pronounce unit/building names intelligibly.

Korean commentators: REAVOOOO REAVOOOO SCOUURGEEEE SCOURGEEE AAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEEOOOOEEEEE GEEEEEEGEEEEEEEEE
Chinese commentators: [bored talk in Chinese] oh, gg.
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
June 13 2008 10:10 GMT
#169
On June 13 2008 19:08 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Lux played extremely well but flash made some pretty big mistakes. He lost a tank by moving into range of a sunk (slower break). He also lost his first vessel AND delayed his second by going dropship which only managed to delay lux's gas slightly. He also made a strategic error in my humble opinion. When he say the build order lux was using (no lurk, quick hive) I think a T needs their second starport ASAP, take an earlier gas at the nat and just get some vessels out asap. From there make 2 dropships at the same time and use that to harass the nat.

As usual , easier said than done. But I think if flash had saved his first vessel, started a faster starport. He wouldve handled the guards a lot easier and reapplied pressure before ultras became a real threat.


Yep..

There wont be a second mistake though, 2:1 flash:D
One ring, to rule them all!
stony
Profile Joined December 2007
China358 Posts
June 13 2008 10:12 GMT
#170
Starting
Best @ orange @ 5
Much @white @ 11
Where is much's milkshake?
stony
Profile Joined December 2007
China358 Posts
June 13 2008 10:12 GMT
#171
much sending a VERY EARLY PROBE to scout
stony
Profile Joined December 2007
China358 Posts
June 13 2008 10:12 GMT
#172
is he going to cheese? or manner pylon?
stony
Profile Joined December 2007
China358 Posts
June 13 2008 10:12 GMT
#173
he makes a pylon @ 6 or clock, looks like proxy
stony
Profile Joined December 2007
China358 Posts
June 13 2008 10:13 GMT
#174
much adds one gate now, best is finally socuting
he expects sth cheesy so he scouts his base's top right area first,
now probe is going down the ramp and SCOUTS IT
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-13 10:15:36
June 13 2008 10:13 GMT
#175
You're so wise steve.

Oh I fully recognize the briliance of Lux's build. Best possible opening on troy in my opinion. Kinda the reason I was able to predict 3 gas muta into quick hive after his 12 hatch

Lux was flawless, flash was not, lux wins. To put it very simply.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 13 2008 10:13 GMT
#176
what is this horrible decision by much? going BACK down the ramp to make the pylon in best's nat? where best is sure to scout it much faster?
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4952 Posts
June 13 2008 10:14 GMT
#177
Well those Chinese commentators to me sure as hell didn't seem like professionals. More like a bunch of random hired for just PGL...at least they were on that level skillwise for sure.

On another note, thanks FS for digging that up (too bad I can't know the formula of time and posts together, but that's just a minor thing anyway, if it still works that way) Does this mean I'll have +1 icons every time I reach the required number of posts, or did you fixate me into being a HT? XD

Not that it was very important, just being curious.

P.s.: Go Best!
Complete the cycle!
stony
Profile Joined December 2007
China358 Posts
June 13 2008 10:14 GMT
#178
proxy gate scouted
it's just down the ramp of best's nat
much mannerpylon
traps 1 probe only
stony
Profile Joined December 2007
China358 Posts
June 13 2008 10:15 GMT
#179
much zeals are trying to ill probes, 1 kill so far
Crushie
Profile Joined June 2008
Sweden14 Posts
June 13 2008 10:15 GMT
#180
On June 13 2008 19:04 Worked! wrote:
it's funny how I can listen to Korean commentators all day but when I watched PGL one night I had to put it on mute o_O


we know what the korean commentators are saying though.. everytime its: "Wheres Boxer and what would he have done?"
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