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On June 13 2008 19:04 trollbone wrote:
Luxury showed us how ZvT have to be played on this map
In the Final edit "A state of starcraft"
letmerose and Plexa argued that the 3rd base for the zerg on the current map wasn't safe
On troy just kill the assimilator ! It's pretty simple
Then u have a lot of choice with this start
Play this map like an island maps with guardian and drop
Expanding everywhere
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I think Flash had to played this map like casy played it, nuke rush !
Yup Nuke could counter all those sunks ..
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it took something out of the ordinary to beat flash. it sure took a long time. nicely played.
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That's what you get for playing standard i rax FE in every single game you play (except when he cheeses)! FU flash! The most boring player to ever dominate anything.
That strategy was so efficient versus standard play, it was almost ridiculous. I'd say that the TLPD imbalance for Troy isn't really realistic as all of the games where zerg lost versus terran, the zerg was either sunken breaked, or completely outclassed (might be some exception though).
That was amazing, it's too bad though that both andromeda and hwarangdo are really hard ZvT. I will be faithful to my hero though. It's very impressive performing this well against the toughest competition in the world.
Here's to a ZvZ final! 
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Lux played extremely well but flash made some pretty big mistakes. He lost a tank by moving into range of a sunk (slower break). He also lost his first vessel AND delayed his second by going dropship which only managed to delay lux's gas slightly.
He also made a strategic error in my humble opinion. When he saw the build order lux was using (no lurk, quick hive) I think a T needs their second starport ASAP, take an earlier gas at the nat and just get some 3 vessels out asap. From there make 2 dropships at the same time and use that to harass the nat and/or main using scan to pick the best target and the main army to distract the zergs main forces.
As usual with bw, a LOT easier said than done. But I think if flash had saved his first vessel/started a faster starport and focused on vessels before making a dropship. He wouldve handled the guards a lot easier and reapplied pressure before ultras became a real threat.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On June 13 2008 19:08 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Lux played extremely well but flash made some pretty big mistakes. He lost a tank by moving into range of a sunk (slower break). He also lost his first vessel AND delayed his second by going dropship which only managed to delay lux's gas slightly. He also made a strategic error in my humble opinion. When he say the build order lux was using (no lurk, quick hive) I think a T needs their second starport ASAP, take an earlier gas at the nat and just get some vessels out asap. From there make 2 dropships at the same time and use that to harass the nat.
As usual , easier said than done. But I think if flash had saved his first vessel, started a faster starport. He wouldve handled the guards a lot easier and reapplied pressure before ultras became a real threat.
The mark of a great strategy is the requirement of flawless play by the opponent to defeat it 
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Okay, so Best versus Much. Time for Old Man Toss to get taken down a notch.
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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
On June 13 2008 19:04 Worked! wrote:
it's funny how I can listen to Korean commentators all day but when I watched PGL one night I had to put it on mute o_O
Heh, I felt like that too. I guess that's because koreans are just screaming like mad when something exciting happens, and you don't have to understand korean to have fun They also pronounce unit/building names intelligibly.
Korean commentators: REAVOOOO REAVOOOO SCOUURGEEEE SCOURGEEE AAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEEOOOOEEEEE GEEEEEEGEEEEEEEEE
Chinese commentators: [bored talk in Chinese] oh, gg.
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On June 13 2008 19:08 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Lux played extremely well but flash made some pretty big mistakes. He lost a tank by moving into range of a sunk (slower break). He also lost his first vessel AND delayed his second by going dropship which only managed to delay lux's gas slightly. He also made a strategic error in my humble opinion. When he say the build order lux was using (no lurk, quick hive) I think a T needs their second starport ASAP, take an earlier gas at the nat and just get some vessels out asap. From there make 2 dropships at the same time and use that to harass the nat.
As usual , easier said than done. But I think if flash had saved his first vessel, started a faster starport. He wouldve handled the guards a lot easier and reapplied pressure before ultras became a real threat.
Yep..
There wont be a second mistake though, 2:1 flash:D
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Starting
Best @ orange @ 5
Much @white @ 11
Where is much's milkshake?
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much sending a VERY EARLY PROBE to scout
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is he going to cheese? or manner pylon?
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he makes a pylon @ 6 or clock, looks like proxy
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much adds one gate now, best is finally socuting
he expects sth cheesy so he scouts his base's top right area first,
now probe is going down the ramp and SCOUTS IT
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You're so wise steve.
Oh I fully recognize the briliance of Lux's build. Best possible opening on troy in my opinion. Kinda the reason I was able to predict 3 gas muta into quick hive after his 12 hatch
Lux was flawless, flash was not, lux wins. To put it very simply.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
what is this horrible decision by much? going BACK down the ramp to make the pylon in best's nat? where best is sure to scout it much faster?
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Well those Chinese commentators to me sure as hell didn't seem like professionals. More like a bunch of random hired for just PGL...at least they were on that level skillwise for sure.
On another note, thanks FS for digging that up (too bad I can't know the formula of time and posts together, but that's just a minor thing anyway, if it still works that way) Does this mean I'll have +1 icons every time I reach the required number of posts, or did you fixate me into being a HT? XD
Not that it was very important, just being curious.
P.s.: Go Best!
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proxy gate scouted
it's just down the ramp of best's nat
much mannerpylon
traps 1 probe only
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much zeals are trying to ill probes, 1 kill so far
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On June 13 2008 19:04 Worked! wrote:
it's funny how I can listen to Korean commentators all day but when I watched PGL one night I had to put it on mute o_O
we know what the korean commentators are saying though.. everytime its: "Wheres Boxer and what would he have done?"
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EPT
