He would've won game 7 if he attacked the 3rd expo with his main army while the dropship attacked.
Balance is fine except for ZvP. Zerg has a too big advantage against Protoss
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Highways
Australia6123 Posts
12 hours ago
#341
He would've won game 7 if he attacked the 3rd expo with his main army while the dropship attacked. Balance is fine except for ZvP. Zerg has a too big advantage against Protoss | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46547 Posts
12 hours ago
#342
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TMNT
3387 Posts
11 hours ago
#343
On October 19 2026 17:58 Kanzzer wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2026 17:49 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: On October 19 2026 17:46 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 17:41 Puosu wrote: On October 19 2026 17:27 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 16:42 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: On October 19 2026 11:09 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 09:50 RowdierBob wrote: Map making shouldn’t be skewed any way towards a race. We really should be taking everything we know about maps and trying to make it as close to 50/50 as possible. I mean that probably already happens but there has been some rumours in recent seasons about trying to make maps more friendly for certain races. Who knows what the truth is. Maps from ASL18 to ASL20 are pretty favored by the streamers. Maps like Radeon, Deja Vu, Dominator, KICK BACK, Eclipse, Metropolis and Pole Star are still regularly chosen and mixed in with the current map pool when played in StarcastTV Korea Bo7 sets today. On another note, Blitz Y & Jane Doe & is also still being chosen for TvP matches. Same with Uldolmok (Roaring Currents/Screaming Sea) for PvZ matches. Most likely old games. I doubt any pro is playing Kick Back or Roaring currents.. September 1st: Best vs. Rush on KnockOut, Pole Star, Uldolmok, Neo Dark Origin, Dominator, Citadel, Radeon. September 16th: soma vs. Mini on KnockOut, Backrooms, Radeon, Colorless Fate, Uldolmok, Metropolis & Aiolos. Oct 4th Mini vs. RoyaL played on Pole Star, Metropolis, KICK BACK, Jane Doe, Deja Vu, Radeon and Aiolos. Go see the channel yourself. That's not even the half of it. That guy's just casting old replays, no? How old are we talking about here? They play current 2026 maps on the same set as the old maps. Old enough for you claim that streamers are favoring such maps. The reality is that when ASL is over they always get rid of the Death valley/ Kick back / Roaring Currents type maps and just start using Radeon. Starcast just mixing those old games with new games to make a bo7 it seems. That's weird. If you turn on English AI voiceover translation, he's mentioning player "tilting" or "exhausted", or "psychological damage" from the "previous games". The owner of the channel is Cruiser, he used to post on this very forum and was part of the New World Map Contest a few years back. So are you saying he's faking the set and these players are not actually playing in the series? I don't see the people at the video comments pointing that out either. Yeah they've been doing that shit for a while, putting together old reps to make a pseudo Bo7. You don't have to care about their commentary or the comments. The clear evidence is that there is no such games recorded on eloboard on these dates. | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4200 Posts
9 hours ago
#344
On October 19 2026 17:56 ChApFoU wrote: Very nice games. Had me on the edge of my seat. I felt that Rush brought in some interesting builds but was a bit gunshy in game 7 IMHO, probably due to pressure. Before ultras came into play I felt he had opportunities to break SoulKey and probably could have gone heavier firebats earlier. Well ... sucks for him. But I don't think any other Terran or Protoss could have done it this season anyway. Light is good against agressive and decisive zergs but I don't see him doing better than Rush against Soulkey. Yeah Rush did better than expected and almost won. For Light vs Soulkey if Soulkey plays standard I believe Light is actually the stronger player, but Soulkey knows how to trick Light. | ||
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maybe
266 Posts
8 hours ago
#345
On October 19 2026 21:35 TMNT wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2026 17:58 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 17:49 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: On October 19 2026 17:46 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 17:41 Puosu wrote: On October 19 2026 17:27 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 16:42 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: On October 19 2026 11:09 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 09:50 RowdierBob wrote: Map making shouldn’t be skewed any way towards a race. We really should be taking everything we know about maps and trying to make it as close to 50/50 as possible. I mean that probably already happens but there has been some rumours in recent seasons about trying to make maps more friendly for certain races. Who knows what the truth is. Maps from ASL18 to ASL20 are pretty favored by the streamers. Maps like Radeon, Deja Vu, Dominator, KICK BACK, Eclipse, Metropolis and Pole Star are still regularly chosen and mixed in with the current map pool when played in StarcastTV Korea Bo7 sets today. On another note, Blitz Y & Jane Doe & is also still being chosen for TvP matches. Same with Uldolmok (Roaring Currents/Screaming Sea) for PvZ matches. Most likely old games. I doubt any pro is playing Kick Back or Roaring currents.. September 1st: Best vs. Rush on KnockOut, Pole Star, Uldolmok, Neo Dark Origin, Dominator, Citadel, Radeon. September 16th: soma vs. Mini on KnockOut, Backrooms, Radeon, Colorless Fate, Uldolmok, Metropolis & Aiolos. Oct 4th Mini vs. RoyaL played on Pole Star, Metropolis, KICK BACK, Jane Doe, Deja Vu, Radeon and Aiolos. Go see the channel yourself. That's not even the half of it. That guy's just casting old replays, no? How old are we talking about here? They play current 2026 maps on the same set as the old maps. Old enough for you claim that streamers are favoring such maps. The reality is that when ASL is over they always get rid of the Death valley/ Kick back / Roaring Currents type maps and just start using Radeon. Starcast just mixing those old games with new games to make a bo7 it seems. That's weird. If you turn on English AI voiceover translation, he's mentioning player "tilting" or "exhausted", or "psychological damage" from the "previous games". The owner of the channel is Cruiser, he used to post on this very forum and was part of the New World Map Contest a few years back. So are you saying he's faking the set and these players are not actually playing in the series? I don't see the people at the video comments pointing that out either. Yeah they've been doing that shit for a while, putting together old reps to make a pseudo Bo7. You don't have to care about their commentary or the comments. The clear evidence is that there is no such games recorded on eloboard on these dates. What, so you're saying the ASL games are not played live? The stage and player reactions are all faked and they just show replays? I'm not saying it's impossible, just curious if this is really what they're doing. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8209 Posts
8 hours ago
#346
I feel Terrans have to improve vessel retention in tvz. That might mean not keeping vessels in a cloud (i know, easier said than done) and sending them home for repair when they get plagued. Losing 7 vessel in 10 seconds is one of the factors that cost Rush the game imo. He was doing extremely well until then. | ||
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Kanzzer
76 Posts
8 hours ago
#347
On October 20 2026 00:19 maybe wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2026 21:35 TMNT wrote: On October 19 2026 17:58 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 17:49 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: On October 19 2026 17:46 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 17:41 Puosu wrote: On October 19 2026 17:27 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 16:42 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: On October 19 2026 11:09 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 09:50 RowdierBob wrote: Map making shouldn’t be skewed any way towards a race. We really should be taking everything we know about maps and trying to make it as close to 50/50 as possible. I mean that probably already happens but there has been some rumours in recent seasons about trying to make maps more friendly for certain races. Who knows what the truth is. Maps from ASL18 to ASL20 are pretty favored by the streamers. Maps like Radeon, Deja Vu, Dominator, KICK BACK, Eclipse, Metropolis and Pole Star are still regularly chosen and mixed in with the current map pool when played in StarcastTV Korea Bo7 sets today. On another note, Blitz Y & Jane Doe & is also still being chosen for TvP matches. Same with Uldolmok (Roaring Currents/Screaming Sea) for PvZ matches. Most likely old games. I doubt any pro is playing Kick Back or Roaring currents.. September 1st: Best vs. Rush on KnockOut, Pole Star, Uldolmok, Neo Dark Origin, Dominator, Citadel, Radeon. September 16th: soma vs. Mini on KnockOut, Backrooms, Radeon, Colorless Fate, Uldolmok, Metropolis & Aiolos. Oct 4th Mini vs. RoyaL played on Pole Star, Metropolis, KICK BACK, Jane Doe, Deja Vu, Radeon and Aiolos. Go see the channel yourself. That's not even the half of it. That guy's just casting old replays, no? How old are we talking about here? They play current 2026 maps on the same set as the old maps. Old enough for you claim that streamers are favoring such maps. The reality is that when ASL is over they always get rid of the Death valley/ Kick back / Roaring Currents type maps and just start using Radeon. Starcast just mixing those old games with new games to make a bo7 it seems. That's weird. If you turn on English AI voiceover translation, he's mentioning player "tilting" or "exhausted", or "psychological damage" from the "previous games". The owner of the channel is Cruiser, he used to post on this very forum and was part of the New World Map Contest a few years back. So are you saying he's faking the set and these players are not actually playing in the series? I don't see the people at the video comments pointing that out either. Yeah they've been doing that shit for a while, putting together old reps to make a pseudo Bo7. You don't have to care about their commentary or the comments. The clear evidence is that there is no such games recorded on eloboard on these dates. What, so you're saying the ASL games are not played live? The stage and player reactions are all faked and they just show replays? I'm not saying it's impossible, just curious if this is really what they're doing. We are talking about StarCastTV Korea matches, not ASL games. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8209 Posts
8 hours ago
#348
On October 19 2026 21:35 TMNT wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2026 17:58 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 17:49 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: On October 19 2026 17:46 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 17:41 Puosu wrote: On October 19 2026 17:27 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 16:42 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: On October 19 2026 11:09 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 09:50 RowdierBob wrote: Map making shouldn’t be skewed any way towards a race. We really should be taking everything we know about maps and trying to make it as close to 50/50 as possible. I mean that probably already happens but there has been some rumours in recent seasons about trying to make maps more friendly for certain races. Who knows what the truth is. Maps from ASL18 to ASL20 are pretty favored by the streamers. Maps like Radeon, Deja Vu, Dominator, KICK BACK, Eclipse, Metropolis and Pole Star are still regularly chosen and mixed in with the current map pool when played in StarcastTV Korea Bo7 sets today. On another note, Blitz Y & Jane Doe & is also still being chosen for TvP matches. Same with Uldolmok (Roaring Currents/Screaming Sea) for PvZ matches. Most likely old games. I doubt any pro is playing Kick Back or Roaring currents.. September 1st: Best vs. Rush on KnockOut, Pole Star, Uldolmok, Neo Dark Origin, Dominator, Citadel, Radeon. September 16th: soma vs. Mini on KnockOut, Backrooms, Radeon, Colorless Fate, Uldolmok, Metropolis & Aiolos. Oct 4th Mini vs. RoyaL played on Pole Star, Metropolis, KICK BACK, Jane Doe, Deja Vu, Radeon and Aiolos. Go see the channel yourself. That's not even the half of it. That guy's just casting old replays, no? How old are we talking about here? They play current 2026 maps on the same set as the old maps. Old enough for you claim that streamers are favoring such maps. The reality is that when ASL is over they always get rid of the Death valley/ Kick back / Roaring Currents type maps and just start using Radeon. Starcast just mixing those old games with new games to make a bo7 it seems. That's weird. If you turn on English AI voiceover translation, he's mentioning player "tilting" or "exhausted", or "psychological damage" from the "previous games". The owner of the channel is Cruiser, he used to post on this very forum and was part of the New World Map Contest a few years back. So are you saying he's faking the set and these players are not actually playing in the series? I don't see the people at the video comments pointing that out either. Yeah they've been doing that shit for a while, putting together old reps to make a pseudo Bo7. You don't have to care about their commentary or the comments. The clear evidence is that there is no such games recorded on eloboard on these dates. The hell you talking about lol. That’s one tinfoil hat conspiracy theory if there ever were one. Like, all the players would go along with that, no one would spoil the beans, and those guys would accept to go on stage and pretend to be playing. With the knowledge that it would be a gigantic scandal if it was found. All of that for what again? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22666 Posts
8 hours ago
#349
On October 20 2026 00:20 Biff The Understudy wrote: He knew the Muta was there, just a misplay with everything going on.Rush was so unbelievably close. I feel Terrans have to improve vessel retention in tvz. That might mean not keeping vessels in a cloud (i know, easier said than done) and sending them home for repair when they get plagued. Losing 7 vessel in 10 seconds is one of the factors that cost Rush the game imo. He was doing extremely well until then. | ||
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cabarkapa
United States1015 Posts
8 hours ago
#350
On October 20 2026 00:23 Biff The Understudy wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2026 21:35 TMNT wrote: On October 19 2026 17:58 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 17:49 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: On October 19 2026 17:46 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 17:41 Puosu wrote: On October 19 2026 17:27 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 16:42 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: On October 19 2026 11:09 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 09:50 RowdierBob wrote: Map making shouldn’t be skewed any way towards a race. We really should be taking everything we know about maps and trying to make it as close to 50/50 as possible. I mean that probably already happens but there has been some rumours in recent seasons about trying to make maps more friendly for certain races. Who knows what the truth is. Maps from ASL18 to ASL20 are pretty favored by the streamers. Maps like Radeon, Deja Vu, Dominator, KICK BACK, Eclipse, Metropolis and Pole Star are still regularly chosen and mixed in with the current map pool when played in StarcastTV Korea Bo7 sets today. On another note, Blitz Y & Jane Doe & is also still being chosen for TvP matches. Same with Uldolmok (Roaring Currents/Screaming Sea) for PvZ matches. Most likely old games. I doubt any pro is playing Kick Back or Roaring currents.. September 1st: Best vs. Rush on KnockOut, Pole Star, Uldolmok, Neo Dark Origin, Dominator, Citadel, Radeon. September 16th: soma vs. Mini on KnockOut, Backrooms, Radeon, Colorless Fate, Uldolmok, Metropolis & Aiolos. Oct 4th Mini vs. RoyaL played on Pole Star, Metropolis, KICK BACK, Jane Doe, Deja Vu, Radeon and Aiolos. Go see the channel yourself. That's not even the half of it. That guy's just casting old replays, no? How old are we talking about here? They play current 2026 maps on the same set as the old maps. Old enough for you claim that streamers are favoring such maps. The reality is that when ASL is over they always get rid of the Death valley/ Kick back / Roaring Currents type maps and just start using Radeon. Starcast just mixing those old games with new games to make a bo7 it seems. That's weird. If you turn on English AI voiceover translation, he's mentioning player "tilting" or "exhausted", or "psychological damage" from the "previous games". The owner of the channel is Cruiser, he used to post on this very forum and was part of the New World Map Contest a few years back. So are you saying he's faking the set and these players are not actually playing in the series? I don't see the people at the video comments pointing that out either. Yeah they've been doing that shit for a while, putting together old reps to make a pseudo Bo7. You don't have to care about their commentary or the comments. The clear evidence is that there is no such games recorded on eloboard on these dates. The hell you talking about lol. That’s one tinfoil hat conspiracy theory if there ever were one. Like, all the players would go along with that, no one would spoil the beans, and those guys would accept to go on stage and pretend to be playing. With the knowledge that it would be a gigantic scandal if it was found. All of that for what again? There is a long chain of comments there, you might want to try to follow it a bit better since they are talking about a random third party youtube video | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium7200 Posts
7 hours ago
#351
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CHEONSOYUN
628 Posts
7 hours ago
#352
On October 20 2026 00:20 Biff The Understudy wrote: Rush was so unbelievably close. I feel Terrans have to improve vessel retention in tvz. That might mean not keeping vessels in a cloud (i know, easier said than done) and sending them home for repair when they get plagued. Losing 7 vessel in 10 seconds is one of the factors that cost Rush the game imo. He was doing extremely well until then. rush was fortunate to even be in that position. he had such a horrible position after the 8 barracks failed. his matchup skill brought him back | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8209 Posts
7 hours ago
#353
On October 20 2026 01:05 cabarkapa wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2026 00:23 Biff The Understudy wrote: On October 19 2026 21:35 TMNT wrote: On October 19 2026 17:58 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 17:49 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: On October 19 2026 17:46 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 17:41 Puosu wrote: On October 19 2026 17:27 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 16:42 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: On October 19 2026 11:09 Kanzzer wrote: [quote] Maps from ASL18 to ASL20 are pretty favored by the streamers. Maps like Radeon, Deja Vu, Dominator, KICK BACK, Eclipse, Metropolis and Pole Star are still regularly chosen and mixed in with the current map pool when played in StarcastTV Korea Bo7 sets today. On another note, Blitz Y & Jane Doe & is also still being chosen for TvP matches. Same with Uldolmok (Roaring Currents/Screaming Sea) for PvZ matches. Most likely old games. I doubt any pro is playing Kick Back or Roaring currents.. September 1st: Best vs. Rush on KnockOut, Pole Star, Uldolmok, Neo Dark Origin, Dominator, Citadel, Radeon. September 16th: soma vs. Mini on KnockOut, Backrooms, Radeon, Colorless Fate, Uldolmok, Metropolis & Aiolos. Oct 4th Mini vs. RoyaL played on Pole Star, Metropolis, KICK BACK, Jane Doe, Deja Vu, Radeon and Aiolos. Go see the channel yourself. That's not even the half of it. That guy's just casting old replays, no? How old are we talking about here? They play current 2026 maps on the same set as the old maps. Old enough for you claim that streamers are favoring such maps. The reality is that when ASL is over they always get rid of the Death valley/ Kick back / Roaring Currents type maps and just start using Radeon. Starcast just mixing those old games with new games to make a bo7 it seems. That's weird. If you turn on English AI voiceover translation, he's mentioning player "tilting" or "exhausted", or "psychological damage" from the "previous games". The owner of the channel is Cruiser, he used to post on this very forum and was part of the New World Map Contest a few years back. So are you saying he's faking the set and these players are not actually playing in the series? I don't see the people at the video comments pointing that out either. Yeah they've been doing that shit for a while, putting together old reps to make a pseudo Bo7. You don't have to care about their commentary or the comments. The clear evidence is that there is no such games recorded on eloboard on these dates. The hell you talking about lol. That’s one tinfoil hat conspiracy theory if there ever were one. Like, all the players would go along with that, no one would spoil the beans, and those guys would accept to go on stage and pretend to be playing. With the knowledge that it would be a gigantic scandal if it was found. All of that for what again? There is a long chain of comments there, you might want to try to follow it a bit better since they are talking about a random third party youtube video Ooh, right. Yeah i jumped in the thread and answered quickly. Should have thought it was a bit weird. Sorry about that TMNT and thanks kabarkapa. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8209 Posts
7 hours ago
#354
On October 20 2026 01:05 Gorsameth wrote: Show nested quote + He knew the Muta was there, just a misplay with everything going on.On October 20 2026 00:20 Biff The Understudy wrote: Rush was so unbelievably close. I feel Terrans have to improve vessel retention in tvz. That might mean not keeping vessels in a cloud (i know, easier said than done) and sending them home for repair when they get plagued. Losing 7 vessel in 10 seconds is one of the factors that cost Rush the game imo. He was doing extremely well until then. True, I know. Just feel like, the moment you get your whole vessel cloud plagued, you should send them home for repair. I might be missing something, but it feels like a plagued vessel is a dead vessel, while a vessel being repaired is still banking energy. There might be practicalities i don’t know about, but i feel that great vessel retention would make Terran much stronger against those non hydra centric army comp. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4186 Posts
6 hours ago
#355
On October 20 2026 01:52 Biff The Understudy wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2026 01:05 Gorsameth wrote: On October 20 2026 00:20 Biff The Understudy wrote: He knew the Muta was there, just a misplay with everything going on.Rush was so unbelievably close. I feel Terrans have to improve vessel retention in tvz. That might mean not keeping vessels in a cloud (i know, easier said than done) and sending them home for repair when they get plagued. Losing 7 vessel in 10 seconds is one of the factors that cost Rush the game imo. He was doing extremely well until then. True, I know. Just feel like, the moment you get your whole vessel cloud plagued, you should send them home for repair. I might be missing something, but it feels like a plagued vessel is a dead vessel, while a vessel being repaired is still banking energy. There might be practicalities i don’t know about, but i feel that great vessel retention would make Terran much stronger against those non hydra centric army comp. Not sure how much they can afford to lose the defiler control in front of the Zerg base, if the vessels go back, the defilers will probably follow and get into the Terran main which usually means gg | ||
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Kanzzer
76 Posts
6 hours ago
#356
On October 19 2026 21:35 TMNT wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2026 17:58 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 17:49 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: On October 19 2026 17:46 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 17:41 Puosu wrote: On October 19 2026 17:27 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 16:42 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: On October 19 2026 11:09 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 09:50 RowdierBob wrote: Map making shouldn’t be skewed any way towards a race. We really should be taking everything we know about maps and trying to make it as close to 50/50 as possible. I mean that probably already happens but there has been some rumours in recent seasons about trying to make maps more friendly for certain races. Who knows what the truth is. Maps from ASL18 to ASL20 are pretty favored by the streamers. Maps like Radeon, Deja Vu, Dominator, KICK BACK, Eclipse, Metropolis and Pole Star are still regularly chosen and mixed in with the current map pool when played in StarcastTV Korea Bo7 sets today. On another note, Blitz Y & Jane Doe & is also still being chosen for TvP matches. Same with Uldolmok (Roaring Currents/Screaming Sea) for PvZ matches. Most likely old games. I doubt any pro is playing Kick Back or Roaring currents.. September 1st: Best vs. Rush on KnockOut, Pole Star, Uldolmok, Neo Dark Origin, Dominator, Citadel, Radeon. September 16th: soma vs. Mini on KnockOut, Backrooms, Radeon, Colorless Fate, Uldolmok, Metropolis & Aiolos. Oct 4th Mini vs. RoyaL played on Pole Star, Metropolis, KICK BACK, Jane Doe, Deja Vu, Radeon and Aiolos. Go see the channel yourself. That's not even the half of it. That guy's just casting old replays, no? How old are we talking about here? They play current 2026 maps on the same set as the old maps. Old enough for you claim that streamers are favoring such maps. The reality is that when ASL is over they always get rid of the Death valley/ Kick back / Roaring Currents type maps and just start using Radeon. Starcast just mixing those old games with new games to make a bo7 it seems. That's weird. If you turn on English AI voiceover translation, he's mentioning player "tilting" or "exhausted", or "psychological damage" from the "previous games". The owner of the channel is Cruiser, he used to post on this very forum and was part of the New World Map Contest a few years back. So are you saying he's faking the set and these players are not actually playing in the series? I don't see the people at the video comments pointing that out either. Yeah they've been doing that shit for a while, putting together old reps to make a pseudo Bo7. You don't have to care about their commentary or the comments. The clear evidence is that there is no such games recorded on eloboard on these dates. Yeah I'm aware that their games are not logged on EloBoard. This has begun since late September 2025, when the videos titles stopped including the words "China Spon". I actually have a spreadsheet that keeps track of all SCTV results since then. EloBoard does not allow results from replays to be submitted, only results from games that are live-casted. The thing is, there ARE games where the results do not exist on EloBoard, and I mean a LOT of them. I'll list a couple examples in the spoilers below. + Show Spoiler + 1. Light's record versus snOw on the map Litmus is 0-4 on EloBoard. That means Light has never won against snOw on Litmus, right? But they did play each other on this SCTV replay on May 22nd in which Light won (I timestamped the ending of that game). 2. The following players have never played each other on Uldolmok, according to EloBoard. But they did played each other at SCTV - some even multiple times - on Uldolmok: snOw vs RoyaL: Oct. 29th, '25, May 13rd, '26, July 20th, '26. No Uldolmok on EloBoard's head-to-head records. herO vs. snOw: Nov. 8th, '25. No Uldolmok on EloBoard's head-to-head records. SoulKey vs. Mini: Nov. 10th, '25. No Uldolmok on EloBoard's head-to-head records. Mini vs. Light: unknown date, uploaded on Dec. 28th, 2025. No Uldolmok on EloBoard's head-to-head records. Best vs. RoyaL: Dec. 29th, '25. No Uldolmok on EloBoard's head-to-head records. Rush vs. SoulKey: Jan. 19, '26. No Uldolmok on EloBoard's head-to-head records. Queen vs. Best: March 13rd, '26. No Uldolmok on EloBoard's head-to-head records. Mini vs. RoyaL: May 24th, '26. No Uldolmok on EloBoard's head-to-head records. Now, there is definitely possibility that he does cast individual replays and pretend that it is a pseudo-series like you said. I do find it strange that evertime before he starts the replays, Cruiser always says "both players have signaled that they are ready" - which is absolute nonsense if you're just casting the replays. But isn't it a lot of work and very unnecessary just to conjure up "fake series" like that? Considering his contents have a lot of views on YT and he takes donations on SOOP, I don't think the players featured on the videos would leave that alone if they knew he was bullshitting. We know how Korean players don't like their contents and their names being featured without permission, let alone faking a series that never existed. I don't think his Bo7 series are fake. I believe that these matches are privately played, and the replays were agreed by all parties to become SCTV's exclusive contents to be broadcasted later. Oh yeah and despite eOnzErg's snarky remarks, I know for a fact that Cruiser loves letting players freely choose the map pool. During the SCTV's showmatches to showcase the winning maps of New World Map Contest, he angered the foreign mappers by letting the map pool of the showmatches mix both the NWMC maps and the standard ASL maps at the time - which were Polypoid, Vermeer & Retro, because the guy is such a huge believer on allowing players agency & freedom with a map pool. So no I wouldn't count out the fact that old maps are still chosen by the players while doing SCTV series. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium7200 Posts
6 hours ago
#357
On October 20 2026 02:23 Kanzzer wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2026 21:35 TMNT wrote: On October 19 2026 17:58 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 17:49 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: On October 19 2026 17:46 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 17:41 Puosu wrote: On October 19 2026 17:27 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 16:42 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: On October 19 2026 11:09 Kanzzer wrote: On October 19 2026 09:50 RowdierBob wrote: Map making shouldn’t be skewed any way towards a race. We really should be taking everything we know about maps and trying to make it as close to 50/50 as possible. I mean that probably already happens but there has been some rumours in recent seasons about trying to make maps more friendly for certain races. Who knows what the truth is. Maps from ASL18 to ASL20 are pretty favored by the streamers. Maps like Radeon, Deja Vu, Dominator, KICK BACK, Eclipse, Metropolis and Pole Star are still regularly chosen and mixed in with the current map pool when played in StarcastTV Korea Bo7 sets today. On another note, Blitz Y & Jane Doe & is also still being chosen for TvP matches. Same with Uldolmok (Roaring Currents/Screaming Sea) for PvZ matches. Most likely old games. I doubt any pro is playing Kick Back or Roaring currents.. September 1st: Best vs. Rush on KnockOut, Pole Star, Uldolmok, Neo Dark Origin, Dominator, Citadel, Radeon. September 16th: soma vs. Mini on KnockOut, Backrooms, Radeon, Colorless Fate, Uldolmok, Metropolis & Aiolos. Oct 4th Mini vs. RoyaL played on Pole Star, Metropolis, KICK BACK, Jane Doe, Deja Vu, Radeon and Aiolos. Go see the channel yourself. That's not even the half of it. That guy's just casting old replays, no? How old are we talking about here? They play current 2026 maps on the same set as the old maps. Old enough for you claim that streamers are favoring such maps. The reality is that when ASL is over they always get rid of the Death valley/ Kick back / Roaring Currents type maps and just start using Radeon. Starcast just mixing those old games with new games to make a bo7 it seems. That's weird. If you turn on English AI voiceover translation, he's mentioning player "tilting" or "exhausted", or "psychological damage" from the "previous games". The owner of the channel is Cruiser, he used to post on this very forum and was part of the New World Map Contest a few years back. So are you saying he's faking the set and these players are not actually playing in the series? I don't see the people at the video comments pointing that out either. Yeah they've been doing that shit for a while, putting together old reps to make a pseudo Bo7. You don't have to care about their commentary or the comments. The clear evidence is that there is no such games recorded on eloboard on these dates. Yeah I'm aware that their games are not logged on EloBoard. This has begun since late September 2025, when the videos titles stopped including the words "China Spon". I actually have a spreadsheet that keeps track of all SCTV results since then. EloBoard does not allow results from replays to be submitted, only results from games that are live-casted. The thing is, there ARE games where the results do not exist on EloBoard, and I mean a LOT of them. I'll list a couple examples in the spoilers below. + Show Spoiler + 1. Light's record versus snOw on the map Litmus is 0-4 on EloBoard. That means Light has never won against snOw on Litmus, right? But they did play each other on this SCTV replay on May 22nd in which Light won (I timestamped the ending of that game). 2. The following players have never played each other on Uldolmok, according to EloBoard. But they did played each other at SCTV - some even multiple times - on Uldolmok: snOw vs RoyaL: Oct. 29th, '25, May 13rd, '26, July 20th, '26. No Uldolmok on EloBoard's head-to-head records. herO vs. snOw: Nov. 8th, '25. No Uldolmok on EloBoard's head-to-head records. SoulKey vs. Mini: Nov. 10th, '25. No Uldolmok on EloBoard's head-to-head records. Mini vs. Light: unknown date, uploaded on Dec. 28th, 2025. No Uldolmok on EloBoard's head-to-head records. Best vs. RoyaL: Dec. 29th, '25. No Uldolmok on EloBoard's head-to-head records. Rush vs. SoulKey: Jan. 19, '26. No Uldolmok on EloBoard's head-to-head records. Queen vs. Best: March 13rd, '26. No Uldolmok on EloBoard's head-to-head records. Mini vs. RoyaL: May 24th, '26. No Uldolmok on EloBoard's head-to-head records. Now, there is definitely possibility that he does cast individual replays and pretend that it is a pseudo-series like you said. I do find it strange that evertime before he starts the replays, Cruiser always says "both players have signaled that they are ready" - which is absolute nonsense if you're just casting the replays. But isn't it a lot of work and very unnecessary just to conjure up "fake series" like that? Considering his contents have a lot of views on YT and he takes donations on SOOP, I don't think the players featured on the videos would leave that alone if they knew he was bullshitting. We know how Korean players don't like their contents and their names being featured without permission, let alone faking a series that never existed. I don't think his Bo7 series are fake. I believe that these matches are privately played, and the replays were agreed by all parties to become SCTV's exclusive contents to be broadcasted later. Oh yeah and despite eOnzErg's snarky remarks, I know for a fact that Cruiser loves letting players freely choose the map pool. During the SCTV's showmatches to showcase the winning maps of New World Map Contest, he angered the foreign mappers by letting the map pool of the showmatches mix both the NWMC maps and the standard ASL maps at the time - which were Polypoid, Vermeer & Retro, because the guy is such a huge believer on allowing players agency & freedom with a map pool. So no I wouldn't count out the fact that old maps are still chosen by the players while doing SCTV series. Alright so i personally believe they are old games. But you for the contrary believe they are fresh games played privately. I guess we can still agree that is just a personal Starcast TV choice and not players preference ? If that was the case we will see the maps you are mentioning to be played on standard spons or chinese spons right ?. Maps from ASL18 to ASL20 are pretty favored by the streamers. Maps like Radeon, Deja Vu, Dominator, KICK BACK, Eclipse, Metropolis and Pole Star are still regularly chosen and mixed in with the current map pool when played in StarcastTV Korea Bo7 sets today. On another note, Blitz Y & Jane Doe & is also still being chosen for TvP matches. Same with Uldolmok (Roaring Currents/Screaming Sea) for PvZ matches. But i highly doubt Starcast is making those progamers to play in maps that are not part of the current ASL MP. And this is not bashing starcast or anything. Im just pointing that your post and players map picking preference is not really it. | ||
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bochs
129 Posts
5 hours ago
#358
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Rainalcar
Croatia562 Posts
4 hours ago
#359
On October 20 2026 01:16 CHEONSOYUN wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2026 00:20 Biff The Understudy wrote: Rush was so unbelievably close. I feel Terrans have to improve vessel retention in tvz. That might mean not keeping vessels in a cloud (i know, easier said than done) and sending them home for repair when they get plagued. Losing 7 vessel in 10 seconds is one of the factors that cost Rush the game imo. He was doing extremely well until then. rush was fortunate to even be in that position. he had such a horrible position after the 8 barracks failed. his matchup skill brought him back No, he was not in a bad spot at all, even though he lost a bunker as a pure blunder and then another bunker without killing more than 1? drone? Terran should pay for such things but they do not because it's a favourable matchup, just like zerg failed cheeses vs protoss leading to anyone's game. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12066 Posts
3 hours ago
#360
I feel Rush could've done better if he kept making tanks at a point (kinda like how Flash used to play lategame bionic vs ultras) or at least gone into mines to help with the counter attacks. He also needed to repair his vessels, but outside of that Soulkey was just super duper solid. Even getting all his tech units irradiated forever he still managed to barely hold on to every base every single attack. Insane. | ||
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