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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
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Kreuger
Sweden806 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4230 Posts
On July 19 2023 03:48 Kreuger wrote: According to wiki several grousp should have been played by now, do we have any results? I think the results have been deleted from liquipedia (because I saw them inserted there earlier) so to not spoil the english cast (?) Idk for sure though | ||
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Kreuger
Sweden806 Posts
On July 19 2023 15:00 M3t4PhYzX wrote: I think the results have been deleted from liquipedia (because I saw them inserted there earlier) so to not spoil the english cast (?) Idk for sure though Ok. Strange if so. Would expect to be spoiled when checking wiki | ||
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
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QOGQOG
834 Posts
On August 02 2023 08:28 Devolved wrote: Any update on this tournament? Looks like it's gonna be fun. I think I'd better just watch the Korean casts... this is going to end up being cast in English during ASL if at all. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4230 Posts
On August 02 2023 08:58 QOGQOG wrote: I think I'd better just watch the Korean casts... this is going to end up being cast in English during ASL if at all. such a damn shame.. | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3433 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4230 Posts
That's 88,6% of games played on most standard of current maps. Sand Storm was played zero (0) times. Not quite "New Worlds" now, is it? This tournament had great potential.. but it was, unfortunately, squandered. Well.. thanks for hosting and casting anyways, I guess. Cheers to everyone involved  | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
Snow vs Ssak was played on new maps only and was really an interesting viewer experience! Even if it comes out later as long as there are VODs to rewatch it I have marked a couple matches, and matchups on maps, that I definitely am interested in. | ||
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Cruiser0929
516 Posts
On August 12 2023 21:58 M3t4PhYzX wrote: 93 out of 105 games so far have been played on either Vermeer (45), Retro (31) or Polypoid (17) XD That's 88,6% of games played on most standard of current maps. Sand Storm was played zero (0) times. Not quite "New Worlds" now, is it? This tournament had great potential.. but it was, unfortunately, squandered. Well.. thanks for hosting and casting anyways, I guess. Cheers to everyone involved The group stage is fixed to use vermeer, polypoid, and retro. From Ro.16, all maps will be used. and It's also very natural for players not to use maps that are against them. You need to change your perspective in watching this tournament. Don't focus on how many other maps are used In the stage after Ro.16, I want you will focus on which map players choose among the maps other than Vermeer, Retro, and Polypoid. That means the competitiveness that maps have. From my point of view, the initial purpose of this tournament is not to see how many other maps are used, but to see how competitive they are against ASL maps. For example, based on Bo5, you can watch which maps are most used besides Polypoid, Retro, and Vermeer. Excluding those maps, you can see which maps players have picked the most from the map pool. And that means that players like the map, which means that you can see which map is the most competitive among the maps excluding ASL maps. | ||
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
On August 12 2023 21:58 M3t4PhYzX wrote: 93 out of 105 games so far have been played on either Vermeer (45), Retro (31) or Polypoid (17) XD That's 88,6% of games played on most standard of current maps. Sand Storm was played zero (0) times. Not quite "New Worlds" now, is it? This tournament had great potential.. but it was, unfortunately, squandered. Well.. thanks for hosting and casting anyways, I guess. Cheers to everyone involved It really is a damn shame how starcast took the original vision of the tournament and ended up just doing his own thing by excluding zzzero from streaming the English cast and just hogging the content. He told me that nyoken and diggity would be doing the English cast but that doesn’t seem to be the case. I paid for a really nice graphic package that looked awesome and it wasn’t even used because he decided to change the tournament name at the last second. What a joke, fuck that guy. | ||
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Cruiser0929
516 Posts
On August 18 2023 22:14 MineraIs wrote: It really is a damn shame how starcast took the original vision of the tournament and ended up just doing his own thing by excluding zzzero from streaming the English cast and just hogging the content. He told me that nyoken and diggity would be doing the English cast but that doesn’t seem to be the case. I paid for a really nice graphic package that looked awesome and it wasn’t even used because he decided to change the tournament name at the last second. What a joke, fuck that guy. Well... when we were planning this tournament, we made some initial promises. You should remember that, also you should remember that I tried to cast myself in English before we made that appointment. And no one ever told you to spend money on graphics, and the tournament with an English cast is NWSL. And indeed, Nyoken, Diggity, and Razz are casting this tournament.  | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4230 Posts
On August 18 2023 14:38 Cruiser0929 wrote: The group stage is fixed to use vermeer, polypoid, and retro. From Ro.16, all maps will be used. and It's also very natural for players not to use maps that are against them. You need to change your perspective in watching this tournament. Don't focus on how many other maps are used In the stage after Ro.16, I want you will focus on which map players choose among the maps other than Vermeer, Retro, and Polypoid. That means the competitiveness that maps have. From my point of view, the initial purpose of this tournament is not to see how many other maps are used, but to see how competitive they are against ASL maps. For example, based on Bo5, you can watch which maps are most used besides Polypoid, Retro, and Vermeer. Excluding those maps, you can see which maps players have picked the most from the map pool. And that means that players like the map, which means that you can see which map is the most competitive among the maps excluding ASL maps. this is so stupid that i'm not even going to bother with adressing any of the points being made wow | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12024 Posts
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art_of_turtle
United States1202 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12024 Posts
On September 24 2023 22:31 art_of_turtle wrote: thought this was a new tournament, seems that things got lost in translation. Im sorry man you spent some money on the graphics but they were still very impressive none the less. That wasn't me, but I'm guessing the person who did the graphics probably didn't seem to get paid yet. Same as the winners. | ||
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TMNT
3116 Posts
On September 25 2023 02:35 Qikz wrote: That wasn't me, but I'm guessing the person who did the graphics probably didn't seem to get paid yet. Same as the winners. Why do you assume that? I thought the default assumption would be winners are paid already, otherwise we would have heard something from the Koreans. I think in the end this is just a tournament held by Starcast TV mostly for Korean players, with a promise of an English cast that eventually arrived 3 months late. Looks like there are some big issues among the production team but we don't know the details exactly. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12024 Posts
On September 25 2023 03:01 TMNT wrote: Why do you assume that? I thought the default assumption would be winners are paid already, otherwise we would have heard something from the Koreans. I think in the end this is just a tournament held by Starcast TV mostly for Korean players, with a promise of an English cast that eventually arrived 3 months late. Looks like there are some big issues among the production team but we don't know the details exactly. I bought this up because CasterMuse has heard that the winners haven't been paid yet, but I didn't want to outright say that initially just in case it was wrong. EDIT: I've been in contact with Minerals and he said the whole situation is a mess, but he hasn't run off with the money. I'm not sure what he's going to do but he's probably going to make a post explaining it. | ||
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TMNT
3116 Posts
On September 25 2023 03:38 Qikz wrote: I bought this up because CasterMuse has heard that the winners haven't been paid yet, but I didn't want to outright say that initially just in case it was wrong. EDIT: I've been in contact with Minerals and he said the whole situation is a mess, but he hasn't run off with the money. I'm not sure what he's going to do but he's probably going to make a post explaining it. Now that you said this, I had a quick look and SCTV actually made this post a few days ago: https://bj.afreecatv.com/cruiser0929/post/107441205 So basically what SCTV says is the prize money is from Afreeca and Minerals, but Minerals didn't release his part (for the obvious reason we saw in this thread), so SCTV used their own money to pay the winners. I'm glad that the players are paid, otherwise SCTV would just be blacklisted in the Korean community. However Minerals is and we'll likely never see his maps being used in Korean tournaments. What a mess. | ||
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