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[CSLPRO] The NEW Pro League! CSLPRO

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Airneanach
Profile Joined January 2021
United States64 Posts
July 02 2024 17:10 GMT
#1
Hello friends!

As you might have heard during the MTLAN stream before the finals, or you might be hearing for the first time, we will be hosting a new Brood War Pro League for the foreign scene!

CSLPRO will be a year long circuit (a little under for the first year), ending with an offline finals each year! This circuit is guaranteed for at least 2 years, and as long as I'm still around it'll keep going for years to come!

The format:
First and foremost, there will be NO LADDER STAGES! Everything that happens with seeding and invites to the finals will be done via points. Points will be collected by participating in CSLPRO events, and potential partner tournaments that will also give out points. Now let's talk about what events we'll have:

There will be 2 major events, CSLPRO Winter and CSLPRO Spring. These will be global events, open for everyone outside of Korea! In the leadup to these, there will be regional events, Americas( NASA), Europe (EMEA), and Asia (APAC). These regional events will have smaller prizes, and be leadups to the major events. The grand finals of the season will be at CSLAN in Chicago each year, with a Last Chance tournament in the lead up for people to get points to try and get an invite to the finals. The finals will be a LAN event where everyone can come and play, much like how MTLAN and CSLAN 2 are being held this year.

In addition to the major events, there will be monthly single elim one off events that award points for players as well.

If you want to keep up with what's going on, make sure to join the discord! (discord.gg), and please make sure to check out the streams on Twitch: (twitch.tv) and drop a follow! Just following makes such a large difference!

You can also support via Kofi (ko-fi.com). By signing up for the $25/month tier, you gain permanent access to all the replay packs!

Also, if you want to be one of the CSLPRO casters, please DM me on discord, because I'll be looking for some awesome people to talk starcraft! (you will be compensated for your time)
Ask not what StarCraft can do for you, ask what you can do for StarCraft
neocronx
Profile Joined December 2009
United States20 Posts
July 02 2024 17:28 GMT
#2
You are a god.
Random - The only way to play.
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden845 Posts
July 02 2024 19:11 GMT
#3
Exciting!
VladZhin
Profile Joined January 2024
15 Posts
July 02 2024 23:28 GMT
#4
Really nice! Will tune in for sure
tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
Canada452 Posts
July 03 2024 05:25 GMT
#5
dead game grumblers in shambles!!!

please use ASL maps
https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/627255-progamer-settings
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dsaasewqdxhg
Profile Joined July 2024
1 Post
July 03 2024 14:37 GMT
#6
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Airneanach
Profile Joined January 2021
United States64 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-03 15:37:44
July 03 2024 15:22 GMT
#7
On July 03 2024 23:37 dsaasewqdxhg wrote:
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On July 03 2024 14:25 tankgirl wrote:
dead game grumblers in shambles!!!

please use ASL maps

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The only way to put BW on the front page is to do things worthy of the front page. And that’s exactly what we’re working on over here. The easiest way to be noticed is to do something they can’t ignore.
Ask not what StarCraft can do for you, ask what you can do for StarCraft
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3469 Posts
July 03 2024 16:57 GMT
#8
On July 04 2024 00:22 Airneanach wrote:
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On July 03 2024 23:37 dsaasewqdxhg wrote:
On July 03 2024 14:25 tankgirl wrote:
dead game grumblers in shambles!!!

please use ASL maps

*mod edit*


The only way to put BW on the front page is to do things worthy of the front page. And that’s exactly what we’re working on over here. The easiest way to be noticed is to do something they can’t ignore.


You know you ve made it in BW when one of those troll accounts starts commenting on your tournaments. So good job CSL, welcome to the group of winners
Horang2 fan
wqeeqwqwe
Profile Joined July 2024
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-03 20:44:47
July 03 2024 20:18 GMT
#9
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3469 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-05 12:15:52
July 03 2024 21:36 GMT
#10
On July 04 2024 05:18 wqeeqwqwe wrote:
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A start would be to stop hiding behind 1post accounts. But i applaud your dedication and you re also driving tl metrics up every time, so thank you for your service!

If foreign scene is so boring to you, why come here at all? Also why speak in English and not korean, the obviously superior bw language? May be you do want the foreign scene? Otherwise do yourself a favour and head towards ygosu or your choice of naver place.
Horang2 fan
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
July 04 2024 04:24 GMT
#11
What’s the format? Will this be like msl?
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wqeeqwqwe
Profile Joined July 2024
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-04 12:27:56
July 04 2024 08:26 GMT
#12
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LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1785 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-05 12:16:46
July 04 2024 09:19 GMT
#13
On July 04 2024 17:26 wqeeqwqwe wrote:
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The issue is that you're spouting nonsense. If there were nothing happening, you wouldn't have to make new accounts to post in tournament threads all the time to try and convince us that there's nothing happening. But there is a lot of stuff happening, whether you like it and watch it or not.
Just let those who do enjoy it, enjoy it.
Personally I don't care about Korean BW. I very rarely watch Korean events, but watch a lot of foreigner events. Players who I know from playing against in events and whose streams I can watch and understand. It's way more exciting to me.
Who would've thought, that different people enjoy different things? There is no reason to go elsewhere just to spread negativity because it's not what you enjoy. You're the same as the people who kept posting "SC2, WC3, Blizzard suck!" Your comments are very rarely constructive.
LML
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1597 Posts
July 04 2024 09:33 GMT
#14
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wqeeqwqwe
Profile Joined July 2024
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-04 12:26:17
July 04 2024 09:42 GMT
#15
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osepu
Profile Blog Joined October 2018
Chile204 Posts
July 05 2024 05:26 GMT
#16
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3469 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-05 12:17:28
July 05 2024 12:39 GMT
#17
On July 04 2024 18:42 wqeeqwqwe wrote:
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Well the TL rules have been in force for 20 years so if you can't read and abide by them it s not our fault.

Also for sc2 and wc3 a lot of bw people also contributed there. I don't know your ID but i d wager i did way more in the sc2 scene than you did for instance.

I know it might be shocking to you but people are able to enjoy and play multiple games at once, some of them are not even RTS (crazy i know, heretical opinion even)

Also why would the koreans wanna play with us with lag and little money? Not to mention timezone and language issues. Makes no sense.

You know in sports you have multiple divisions, and it s the same here. Or would you argue it s ridiculous real Madrid doesn't compete in the premier league? Or that the saudi teams cant play champions league? That's essentially your argument. There are various tiers of tournaments and csl/bsl are below korea. And that s ok. Just like korea has the hugely popular university system featuring d and c rank people. You need the entire ecosystem. Look at sc2 dying in korea because they do not have said ecosystem. Look a wc3, who survived mainly in China thanks to a similar ecosystem.

I m probably wasting my time anyway trying to explain anything to you and you ll post again on any bw thread and get temp banned, but at least you wouldn't be able to say you were not informed. And again you're driving the metrics so thank you

Edit: are you not familiar with the concept of "doing whatever the hell you want" for a hobby? As long as we have people playing our tournaments it s a success, in the same way i play football even though i ll never make any money out of it, same with playing an instrument. Not everything needs to have a monetary value.
Horang2 fan
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4246 Posts
July 05 2024 16:44 GMT
#18
LOL

iFU.spx
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation378 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-05 12:17:46
July 05 2024 20:16 GMT
#19
On July 04 2024 18:42 wqeeqwqwe wrote:
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Can you make separate thread with constructive feedback on the foreign scene? Would you like to share your vision? I believe it could be beneficial for the scene
ztrztrhgfwgfdfd
Profile Joined July 2024
1 Post
Last Edited: 2024-07-06 08:11:20
July 06 2024 07:54 GMT
#20
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3469 Posts
July 06 2024 19:44 GMT
#21
well actually, assuming i read correctly, i would agree with you that kr news and foreign news could (should?) be separate categories in the forum and it would actually be pretty neat.

So I would support that 100%
Horang2 fan
gfdghfdwercj
Profile Joined July 2024
1 Post
Last Edited: 2024-07-06 21:55:03
July 06 2024 21:42 GMT
#22
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6832 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-05 12:18:39
July 06 2024 22:30 GMT
#23
On July 07 2024 06:42 gfdghfdwercj wrote:
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There is been events that included Koreans and they didnt get any hype tho. I still think there is an audience for foreigner BW but is not on teamliquid neither twitch. It is on youtube but very few people invest their time doing youtube content. Lets be honest. Very few people use forums these days. People either use reddit X facebook instagram youtube. TL is just not that place anymore . Look at the sc2 section. Very few threads get any hype.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3469 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-05 12:18:55
July 06 2024 22:35 GMT
#24
On July 07 2024 06:42 gfdghfdwercj wrote:
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Most of the life of BW is in the various discord nowadays. Since everyone s already there and can connect to the stream directly or chat in various rooms, not much point doing it here. BWCL is the same, each of our announcement has like 10 replies, it s more for tradition at this point. Yet we have over 300 players.

But my point was more if we had foreign news and kr news separately you could be happy and never see any foreign news, just watching korean ones instead. Forums like TL are more a relic for old people like me~
Horang2 fan
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3469 Posts
July 08 2024 00:26 GMT
#25
Btw for cslpro: BWCL would be happy to participate and give points.
Horang2 fan
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
July 08 2024 07:46 GMT
#26
On July 08 2024 09:26 WGT-Baal wrote:
Btw for cslpro: BWCL would be happy to participate and give points.


I thought you retired
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3469 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-08 13:07:17
July 08 2024 12:58 GMT
#27
On July 08 2024 16:46 MineraIs wrote:
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On July 08 2024 09:26 WGT-Baal wrote:
Btw for cslpro: BWCL would be happy to participate and give points.


I thought you retired


I did but few other people are on TL so somebody s gotta spread the info here. For BWCL: Cwt)ShibaTerran is the boss now.
Horang2 fan
Gooseheaded
Profile Joined May 2009
United States126 Posts
July 24 2024 03:35 GMT
#28
I’ll be on the lookout for these games.

Airn’s events have been handled pretty well time and again; I have no doubt these events will be just as good, if not better, than the ones we’re already getting.

BW is dead; long live BW!
play better, macro, control
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1073 Posts
January 05 2025 05:36 GMT
#29
On July 07 2024 04:44 WGT-Baal wrote:
well actually, assuming i read correctly, i would agree with you that kr news and foreign news could (should?) be separate categories in the forum and it would actually be pretty neat.

So I would support that 100%

Definitely, so many posts in the BW forums the new threads get buried if you only check once a year
htrzghdfhfg
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