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TMNT
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3132 Posts
Pretty sad that Bisu and Best played poorly but I've come to kind of expect it. Just need Mini to at least get ro4 and I'll be happy. | ||
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Muff2n
United Kingdom253 Posts
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TMNT
3408 Posts
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redknights
206 Posts
On September 13 2023 06:24 TMNT wrote: Sharp is actually 5-1 vs Mini in the last 3 months. Not sure who's the favorite here. Much as I root for Sharp, I have to say Mini is the clear favorite in a tournament setting where he's gonna come out with his trademark specialized builds Sharp is not well-known for his optimization and decision-making in the early game, and his marine control vs zealots is very inconsistent He also is one of the worst among the Terran pros at doing cheese rushes vs. nexus first builds the big danger is him getting mentally out of whack if Mini pulls off a few early set wins due to shenanigans | ||
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RJBTV
194 Posts
On September 13 2023 06:41 redknights wrote: Much as I root for Sharp, I have to say Mini is the clear favorite in a tournament setting where he's gonna come out with his trademark specialized builds Sharp is not well-known for his optimization and decision-making in the early game, and his marine control vs zealots is very inconsistent He also is one of the worst among the Terran pros at doing cheese rushes vs. nexus first builds the big danger is him getting mentally out of whack if Mini pulls off a few early set wins due to shenanigans Sharp actually improved a lot on both his early optimization and decision making. While everyone else was already microing their mining scvs he wasn't, but now he is. He was specifically mocked for it amongst korean pros and he actually took that as a motivation to improve. | ||
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Lazyer
United States402 Posts
Very sad that Best did not make it out. I dont have high hopes for Mini so I think Protoss is just washed unless Flash comes back and race switches. Ro8 looking good otherwise! I hope Action vs Effort goes late game ZvZ. Top side bracket looking great too, I think both Rush and JyJ TvZ is fun to watch. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19399 Posts
Grats to Sharp though. It’s really impressive that he advanced. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19399 Posts
On September 13 2023 01:48 RogerChillingworth wrote: ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/8S0lu2l.png) Looks like: hero, soulkey, mini, effort with effort over soulkey in the finals. | ||
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Vasoline73
United States8202 Posts
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Ideas
United States8182 Posts
I swear to god if jyj somehow wins 2 ASLs back-to-back without having to play a protoss in either tournament... At least the potential of a TvT finals is pretty low. | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey853 Posts
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reincremate
China2216 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4186 Posts
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TMNT
3408 Posts
On September 13 2023 18:58 M2 wrote: I am rooting for Hero/SK vs Mini finals, firstly Terrans had enough finals already, secondly both Hero and SK deserve a shot at the title and finally its a great story if the lone protoss makes it till the end Mini already did it two years ago. Hero's probably the one who deserves the most given the plethora of times he enter semi and finals | ||
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Simplistik
2173 Posts
herO won SSL, Soulkey won KSL, Mini and JyJ ASL, and Effort is the most decorated player left in the draw. | ||
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RJBTV
194 Posts
On September 13 2023 11:41 Vasoline73 wrote: I expect Action to choke vs effort... it would be great to see him finally win but I am not optimistic! Hoping Mini advances as well. I am of the opinion Action actually has the best and sharpest foundations, mechanics, and standard play out of all the zergs. But as you said, If Action chokes he's done for because then all of the above falls apart under bad decision making. EffOrt on the other hand appears sloppier in comparison albeit not much, he is more diverse and keeps his cool. This set will really come down to Action's form and less so to EffOrt's. Sharp's polished up his optimization to present day top standards and should be capable of putting up a good fight against Mini. But both Mini and Sharp somewhat suffer from a similar issue Action does, albeit to a lesser degree. Sharp's known for misreading and making bad calls. Mini is known for limit testing too much and turning good situation against him going just a bit too far. If limit testing works he looks like a champion, if it fails he loses lol. Whichever of the two stays most level headed will win. JyJ is always level headed. I think that's what ultimately pushed him to ASL15 victory. He is also the most well optimized terran with the best macro amongst the terrans. Soulkey on the other hand is a pure mind gamer with solid set-ups, positioning, map work and awareness, but slightly off on his timings and mechanics comparatively to other zergs. So this will largely come down to Soulkey beating JyJ with smarter play. Neither of these two players will choke or throw. They're both cool as ice. To me this one is as tough to call as the next match-up. Rush vs HerO is almost an impossible one to call. HerO is the most solid all-round zerg but not the best at one aspect. Mechanics almost at Action's level, smart positional play close to Soulkey and the most consistent and solid standard play. Hero doesn't take risks and plays it by the book. Rush is similar in everyway these days but he used to choke so that old habit might show itself although I doubt it. Predictions: Ro8: Action > EffOrt. Mini > Sharp JyJ > Soulkey HerO > Rush Ro4: EffOrt > Mini HerO > JyJ Finals: HerO > Mini I am going to be very wrong about all of the above. This ASL does not care about your thoughts, opinions or predictions. D&D from GOT could take some lessons from this ASL season in diverting expectations. | ||
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Nirli
Bulgaria387 Posts
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QOGQOG
834 Posts
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Galacsia
Chile163 Posts
Also I might be wrong but I think I remember in ASL 6 or 7 it was said that Effort never lost a bo5, at least until Mini took him out in ASL 7. | ||
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